Hmmmm

[Guest guest]

I also found out that MANY brands of bottled water include SOME

regularly

treated waters -- which means chlorine, I'd guess (more brands than

we realize, it's said).

This means I will have to filter my water when doing sprout & water

pick me ups in the blender/vitamix.

I was researching and found this information at a site (see the site

name below if you'd like to read). A shower filter and filtered

water can be important in many areas of the home, sometimes

especially for children. Apparently there is a big vapor problem in

bathing/showering.

Well, if it affects small or fully grown organisms (humans, for one),

no wonder sprouts take a hit (apparently). Here's a copy/paste :

Cancer fighting nutrients become deadly when combined with

chlorinated tap water. It has been discovered that some of the most

valuable nutrients and essential anti-disease phytochemicals form

cancer causing substances when combined with chlorinated tap water.

This includes familiar foods like soy, fruits, vegetables, tea, many

health products, and even some vitamins.

Fighting on the wrong side

Recently, a joint study was undertaken in Japan by research

scientists at the National Institute of Health Sciences and Shizuoka

Prefectural University. They determined that natural substances

originating from these foods react with chlorinated tap water,

forming dangerous compounds, named MX, which stands for " unknown

mutagen " . They are similar to well-known and more easily detected

cancer-causing THMs (trihalomethanes).

The Japanese scientists specifically mentioned that MX is created by

the reaction of chlorine with plant phytochemicals such as catechins,

which are contained in tea and flavonoids (found in fruit). To make

things worse, it is certain that the fresh plant foods we eat react

even with the chlorinated tap water we drink with our meals. This

means that fresh fruits, cooked and raw vegetables, green tea, black

tea, herb teas, soy products, vitamin pills, various health

supplements, and even some pharmaceutical drugs in combination with

chlorinated water can all be implicated in cancer. These foods

contain a significant amount of phytochemicals including hormones,

sterols, fatty acids, polyphenols, and ketones-- the subgroups that

include flavins, flavonoids, flavones, tannins, catechins, quinones,

isoflavones and tocopherols.

Destroying valuable nutrients

These compounds are some of the most valuable and promising anti-

cancer nutrients found in our foods and health supplements. Coenzyme

Q10 is a quinone, vitamin B-2 is a flavin, vitamin E is a tocopherol,

citrus fruit bioflavonoids like hesperidin, quercetin, and rutin are

all flavonoids. Green tea contains catechins, phenols, tannins, and

isoflavones. Potentially all of these substances, and many more, are

implicated by chlorination.

The deadly cancer causing agents that are produced are extremely

toxic in infinitesimal amounts, so small and obscure that they are

extremely difficult to detect. Very little chlorine is required. When

the concentrations of photochemicals are high, such as in health

supplements or even fruits and vegetables coming from more fertile

soil, the deadly combination with chlorination intensifies.

It has been known by the water treatment and chemical industries for

many years that chlorine reacts negatively with natural organic

compounds. These industries call the compounds DBPs (disinfection by-

products) and they are known to cause cancer in populations whose

drinking water contains them. THM, the most commonly known DBP,

causes a high incidence of bladder cancer and causes spontaneous

abortion of fetuses.

In 1997, scientists in Finland determined that MX was 170 times more

deadly than other known toxic byproducts of chlorination, and was

shown in laboratory studies to damage the thyroid gland as well as to

cause cancerous tumors.

Is this health magazine just telling readers things they wanna hear,

or do we need new sprouting use precautions ?

http://www.vistamagonline.com/articles/page.php?

tp=3 & p=1 & id=9 & s=chlorine_the_paradox

[Guest guest]

> To the non smokers that may read the above, please

> don't suggest I

> quit. I have smoked 2 _cigarettes _a day for 20

> years, no more, no

> less. I don't drink alcohol, don't do drugs, do some

> yoga and breathing

> exercises, grow my sprouts, and eat what feels good

> and practice loving

> kindness to those who have hurt me the most. Ahh,

> a smoking budding

> Buddha.

> Diane

Hey Diane,and all: My husband couldn't quit smoking

because he has attention defficit and nicotine helps

strengthen short term memory (usually when a substance

helps with a defficiency,it is harder to give up).

Anyways, he has switched to snus. It's negative

effects are very mild and close to nill. He never

smokes (except for one time his snus order was

late,which he also uses american spirit if he has no

smoke alternatives). It's tobacco cured naturally

that you place under your lip. If you don't like the

mess, it also comes in little pouches. According to

studies it is the healthiest way to take tobacco

(you'll find multitudes of studies). I recommend it

to anyone who needs tobacco for whatever reasons.

Apparently, nicotine in and of itself is pretty

harmless.

And just an interesting note, Native americans in the

northwestern region used to find these lime stones.

And they'd pluck a fresh tobacco leaf right out of the

ground and wrap it around the lime stone. The

minerals would allow absorption into the blood vessels

when they placed it under their lip. Imagine what a

pure, clean nicotine buzz that must produce. I am

curious if my husband will every try doing that some

day.. I personally don't derive anything from

nicotine, but I would really like to see what that

would do for him.. interesting..

So I have pasted a link to the northerner, a swedish

company (as swedish law prohibits ingredients beyond

food grade in snus and are resultingly chem-free..good

health plan.) The neat thing about this company is

that not only is the snus harm-free, but tax-free as

well.

http://www.northerner.com/snus.html

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