Great Site!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have bookmarked the iThyroid site and sent it on to

friends in Canada. You are now an international star!

Thanks so much for the time, effort, respect and

genuine concern that you have shown to all of us and

for countless others who may benefit from your labors.

Jan

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Re the iThyroid site: Is it on the search engines yet? I don't know how

stuff gets listed there, but that would really allow your research to become

well-known.

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/11/00 3:12:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, AntJoan@...

writes:

<< Re the iThyroid site: Is it on the search engines yet? I don't know how

stuff gets listed there, but that would really allow your research to become

well-known.

AntJoan>>

Hi Joan,

I haven't got to that yet, but the person building my business site knows

about it so I'll ask him.

[Guest guest]

Great site!

http://www.holman.net/rife/

They show step by step instruction (pictures). In the Poor Man's Rife

section. It tells in basic English what rife is and how it works.

Wonderful for beginners.

And their most expensive unit is 110, if you want to buy one ready

made.

Anyway, hi, I'm Kantra. I am interested in rife because I have had a

very hard time breathing after I had bronchitis last year, and no one

can figure out what's wrong with me, and it sucks.

I am looking into alternative medicine since it seems to work, and I

am at my wit's end about what I'm supposed to do, since

I'm " perfectly healthy " , but feel like hell. I know I have to figure

it out on my own now. Does anyone one know how well rife works

on 'asthma'?

Hi Kantra .... you found the right site. Try using the computer generated

frequecy programs and the electrodes directly from the speaker plug-in on

the back of your computer first. Darn things work!!!! Get really into the

subject and learn, learn, learn... everyone will help, but you have made a

good start by finding Jimmie's site!

Bill

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Kantra .... you found the right site. Try using the computer

generated

> frequecy programs and the electrodes directly from the speaker

plug-in on

> the back of your computer first. Darn things work!!!! Get

really into the

> subject and learn, learn, learn... everyone will help, but you

have made a

> good start by finding Jimmie's site!

>

> Bill

Thanks Bill. I feel somewhat intimadated with all the info out

there.Everyone one says their device is best, the others don't work.

I trust Bob Beck the most, maybe intuition. I was sorry to se he

passed away so recently.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dick!

Nice to hear from you again but I'm afraid that I may not be a great

deal of help. I know about the CD's and there are some inconsistancy problems

..... probably does'nt make a lot of difference ..... but I thought I had found a

more accurate system so that is the way I went.

The approach I took is that I do use a computer as the driver, and I use a

program called Rife Generator 1.4 by Timo Esser. He is an acoustical engineer

and so is familiar with frequencies. His program is capable of producing

square, sine and a couple of other types of waves but the square waves it

produces looks good on the monitor but not on the oscilloscope.

The program offers so many advantages ... pulse,scripts, sweep and so on

that I felt it was an excellent choice for me so I solved the program by

building Ralph Hartwells SSQ2, which converts a SINE wave (via Rife Generator

1.4) into an accurate SQUARE wave.

I run the program to produce a sine wave then feed it from the speaker plug

into the SSQ and from the SSQ down to the electrodes. I have been having

excellent results using just Rife Generator 1.4, but I expect far better through

incorporating the SSQ2. Have also noticed that the better results I have

obtained have been through using a Soundblaster 16 card! Probably because this

puts out about 5.7 volts. Experimenting with a EES card produced literally no

measureable result. This, plus the inaccuracies using a CD to produce the

frequency could be a factor. Not sure yet.

Noticed you contributing on microelectricgermkiller and have downloaded all

the material on GODZILLA by Baby Grand. I don't know why, but I am beginning to

believe that the induction of electrical current into the system does not

necessarily imply that ANY frequency is necessary under certain condition. You

have any thoughts on this aspect?

Bill

[Guest guest]

You dont feel it from the cd because most amplifiers wont go down to 4 hz

They bottom out around 20 hz or 10 hz for the real good ones.. What they

allow to pass is simply the spike on the leading and trailing edge of the

square wave signal with nothing in between. I tried doing that with my amp

too. The only way you cauld make that work is if you got an amp that can

work down to dc or less than 4 hz.

V

> Bill,

>

> Maybe you can help me. I downloaded some freq with the generators offered

on Holman's site, copied them to a CD, play them with ear phones or use

electrodes.

>

> I measured the freq and current today and these are the results.:

>

> Measured on the bare metal I get .2mA to 50mA depending on the volume

setting.

>

> Measured on the electrode cloths wet with salt water I get 0mA to 3.5mA.

>

> And with TENS pads wet with salt water 0mA to 2mA.

>

> Does it seem that that much current would be lost?

>

> I put both electrodes on my wrist and turned up the volume to 3.5mA, and I

could not feel the current. Same with the TENS pads.

>

> When I use the Beck I can feel 2mA! And I got burns turning it up too high

to see how much I could stand. Dumb.

>

> I know the Beck is 4hz, which is very easy to feel, and my CD is 400hz and

4200hz. But when I use my Beck at 100hz I can still feel the sting if it is

up too high.

>

> My question is, why can't I feel the 3.5mA current from the CD, but I can

feel 2mA, and less, with the Beck?

>

> One other difference is the voltage from the CD is 1.5v max and the Beck

is about 25v, depending on the freshness of the batteries.

>

> Dick

> Great Site!

>

>

> Hi Kantra,

>

> Quite true ..every commercial outlet for devices that

cure,

> heal or aid you in any way claim to offer the best performance in their

> particular machines. It's the same anywhere .... many of the offers

don't

> work as specified, or in some cases are actually dangerous! Caveat

Emptore

> (Let the Buyer Beware!) since some of them offer a few dollars worth of

> electronic components at a ridiculous price and it is difficult to tell

the

> genuine article from the rest! You can do this, but only by constant

> application for at least a month or so until you understand something of

the

> genre.

>

> As for Beck's instrument and his protocol, yes they do work, but

have

> you decided what you really need and can you afford some of the

outrageous

> prices? Becks blood purifier is designed to kill or disable

virus

> and other pathogens that are circulating in the bloodstream. His device

is

> manufactured by several companies, however, you could visit:

>

>

>

>

> and examine the available information. For example, a brilliant man

who

> uses the nom-de-plume " baby grand " developed a variation of the blood

> purifier that you can make for five or ten dollars and it may even be

better

> that Becks! Join that group and go to their files and photograph

section.

> They are very active in research and most of them will be only too happy

to

> help!

>

> If you want to approach things from a different angle (i.e. Radiant

Plasma)

> you can visit Jimmie Holmans site and check out his PMR (Poor Mans

Rife),

> Nina Silver at ninas@... for a book that covers the various

> frequencies used in this genre,

> Bruce Stenulson (via the links at Jimmie Holmans website) for the EMEM

> series of machines, which are quite extra-ordinary as well as being most

> reasonably priced, Jim Bare at his website, also via Jimmie Holmans.

>

> These will get you started and the individuals are certainly not

thinking

> only about your pocket book! I have communicated with all of them at

one

> time or another and not only have I found them to be extraordinarily

> helpful, they are also very nice people!

>

> I can go on and on like this, but from my own experience I could advise

you

> to study the subject until you learn how to ask for what you want!

> Generalized questions draw only generalized answers which in turn lead

to

> more generalized questions!

>

> I build my own devices, my latest being a variation of Jimmie Holmans

PMR

> and Bob s Purple Mortality Ray, both of these are frequency

utilizing,

> radiant plasma machines.

>

> Hope this helps a little .... happy to answer any questions (off List

might

> be best)

>

> Bill Onslow

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much. I have wanted to pursue this for such a long time. I

am excited by it. But you're right, I need to wade into this and not

dive into unknown waters. I am reading a lot. Thank you for your

honest answers.

Guess I have to set and ponder what it is I want!

I am considering taking a basic electronics class. I know nothing

about electronics, but feel unwilling to pay hundreds when I don't

have to. Maybe I'm being too frugal. Maybe it's better to spend the

initial amount than, make myself sick by being cheap. Then I can

determine workable devices, from unworkable. Anyway, there sure is a

lot to cover! See ya soon!

Kantra

> Hi Kantra,

>

> Quite true ..every commercial outlet for devices that

cure,

> heal or aid you in any way claim to offer the best performance in

their

> particular machines. It's the same anywhere .... many of the offers

don't

> work as specified, or in some cases are actually dangerous! Caveat

Emptore

> (Let the Buyer Beware!) since some of them offer a few dollars

worth of

> electronic components at a ridiculous price and it is difficult to

tell the

> genuine article from the rest! You can do this, but only by

constant

> application for at least a month or so until you understand

something of the

> genre.

>

> As for Beck's instrument and his protocol, yes they do work,

but have

> you decided what you really need and can you afford some of the

outrageous

> prices? Becks blood purifier is designed to kill or disable

virus

> and other pathogens that are circulating in the bloodstream. His

device is

> manufactured by several companies, however, you could visit:

>

>

> @y...

>

> and examine the available information. For example, a brilliant

man who

> uses the nom-de-plume " baby grand " developed a variation of the

blood

> purifier that you can make for five or ten dollars and it may even

be better

> that Becks! Join that group and go to their files and photograph

section.

> They are very active in research and most of them will be only too

happy to

> help!

>

> If you want to approach things from a different angle (i.e. Radiant

Plasma)

> you can visit Jimmie Holmans site and check out his PMR (Poor Mans

Rife),

> Nina Silver at ninas@b... for a book that covers the various

> frequencies used in this genre,

> Bruce Stenulson (via the links at Jimmie Holmans website) for the

EMEM

> series of machines, which are quite extra-ordinary as well as being

most

> reasonably priced, Jim Bare at his website, also via Jimmie

Holmans.

>

> These will get you started and the individuals are certainly not

thinking

> only about your pocket book! I have communicated with all of them

at one

> time or another and not only have I found them to be extraordinarily

> helpful, they are also very nice people!

>

> I can go on and on like this, but from my own experience I could

advise you

> to study the subject until you learn how to ask for what you want!

> Generalized questions draw only generalized answers which in turn

lead to

> more generalized questions!

>

> I build my own devices, my latest being a variation of Jimmie

Holmans PMR

> and Bob s Purple Mortality Ray, both of these are frequency

utilizing,

> radiant plasma machines.

>

> Hope this helps a little .... happy to answer any questions (off

List might

> be best)

>

> Bill Onslow

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the input. Actually I was using 400hz and 4200hz with the CD. This is

what I generated to my HD and copied to the CD. According to my freq meter I am

getting those freq., although I did not check it with an oscilloscope.

Dick

Great Site!

>

>

> Hi Kantra,

>

> Quite true ..every commercial outlet for devices that

cure,

> heal or aid you in any way claim to offer the best performance in their

> particular machines. It's the same anywhere .... many of the offers

don't

> work as specified, or in some cases are actually dangerous! Caveat

Emptore

> (Let the Buyer Beware!) since some of them offer a few dollars worth of

> electronic components at a ridiculous price and it is difficult to tell

the

> genuine article from the rest! You can do this, but only by constant

> application for at least a month or so until you understand something of

the

> genre.

>

> As for Beck's instrument and his protocol, yes they do work, but

have

> you decided what you really need and can you afford some of the

outrageous

> prices? Becks blood purifier is designed to kill or disable

virus

> and other pathogens that are circulating in the bloodstream. His device

is

> manufactured by several companies, however, you could visit:

>

>

>

>

> and examine the available information. For example, a brilliant man

who

> uses the nom-de-plume " baby grand " developed a variation of the blood

> purifier that you can make for five or ten dollars and it may even be

better

> that Becks! Join that group and go to their files and photograph

section.

> They are very active in research and most of them will be only too happy

to

> help!

>

> If you want to approach things from a different angle (i.e. Radiant

Plasma)

> you can visit Jimmie Holmans site and check out his PMR (Poor Mans

Rife),

> Nina Silver at ninas@... for a book that covers the various

> frequencies used in this genre,

> Bruce Stenulson (via the links at Jimmie Holmans website) for the EMEM

> series of machines, which are quite extra-ordinary as well as being most

> reasonably priced, Jim Bare at his website, also via Jimmie Holmans.

>

> These will get you started and the individuals are certainly not

thinking

> only about your pocket book! I have communicated with all of them at

one

> time or another and not only have I found them to be extraordinarily

> helpful, they are also very nice people!

>

> I can go on and on like this, but from my own experience I could advise

you

> to study the subject until you learn how to ask for what you want!

> Generalized questions draw only generalized answers which in turn lead

to

> more generalized questions!

>

> I build my own devices, my latest being a variation of Jimmie Holmans

PMR

> and Bob s Purple Mortality Ray, both of these are frequency

utilizing,

> radiant plasma machines.

>

> Hope this helps a little .... happy to answer any questions (off List

might

> be best)

>

> Bill Onslow

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh. Well then I have no answer.

> Thanks for the input. Actually I was using 400hz and 4200hz with the CD.

This is what I generated to my HD and copied to the CD. According to my freq

meter I am getting those freq., although I did not check it with an

oscilloscope.

>

> Dick

> Great Site!

> >

> >

> > Hi Kantra,

> >

> > Quite true ..every commercial outlet for devices that

> cure,

> > heal or aid you in any way claim to offer the best performance in

their

> > particular machines. It's the same anywhere .... many of the offers

> don't

> > work as specified, or in some cases are actually dangerous! Caveat

> Emptore

> > (Let the Buyer Beware!) since some of them offer a few dollars

worth of

> > electronic components at a ridiculous price and it is difficult to

tell

> the

> > genuine article from the rest! You can do this, but only by

constant

> > application for at least a month or so until you understand

something of

> the

> > genre.

> >

> > As for Beck's instrument and his protocol, yes they do work,

but

> have

> > you decided what you really need and can you afford some of the

> outrageous

> > prices? Becks blood purifier is designed to kill or disable

> virus

> > and other pathogens that are circulating in the bloodstream. His

device

> is

> > manufactured by several companies, however, you could visit:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > and examine the available information. For example, a brilliant

man

> who

> > uses the nom-de-plume " baby grand " developed a variation of the

blood

> > purifier that you can make for five or ten dollars and it may even

be

> better

> > that Becks! Join that group and go to their files and photograph

> section.

> > They are very active in research and most of them will be only too

happy

> to

> > help!

> >

> > If you want to approach things from a different angle (i.e. Radiant

> Plasma)

> > you can visit Jimmie Holmans site and check out his PMR (Poor Mans

> Rife),

> > Nina Silver at ninas@... for a book that covers the various

> > frequencies used in this genre,

> > Bruce Stenulson (via the links at Jimmie Holmans website) for the

EMEM

> > series of machines, which are quite extra-ordinary as well as being

most

> > reasonably priced, Jim Bare at his website, also via Jimmie

Holmans.

> >

> > These will get you started and the individuals are certainly not

> thinking

> > only about your pocket book! I have communicated with all of them

at

> one

> > time or another and not only have I found them to be extraordinarily

> > helpful, they are also very nice people!

> >

> > I can go on and on like this, but from my own experience I could

advise

> you

> > to study the subject until you learn how to ask for what you want!

> > Generalized questions draw only generalized answers which in turn

lead

> to

> > more generalized questions!

> >

> > I build my own devices, my latest being a variation of Jimmie

Holmans

> PMR

> > and Bob s Purple Mortality Ray, both of these are frequency

> utilizing,

> > radiant plasma machines.

> >

> > Hope this helps a little .... happy to answer any questions (off

List

> might

> > be best)

> >

> > Bill Onslow

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi, Bill.

Regarding microcurrent w/o freq, I know that it is effective in killing a tooth

infection. I used one 9v w/ resistor and pot and no more pain. said that I

electrocuted the bacteria. Maybe.

I really do not know if the freq is necessary either if using electrodes. The

feeling is that polarity has to be changed at least every five minutes or so to

avoid electrolysis.

You said, " I have been having excellent results using just Rife Generator 1.4,

but I expect far better through incorporating the SSQ2. "

Did you mean in producing square waves or treating health conditions? If the

latter, would you give us some details?

Dick

Re: Great Site!

Hi Dick!

Nice to hear from you again but I'm afraid that I may not be a great

deal of help. I know about the CD's and there are some inconsistancy problems

..... probably does'nt make a lot of difference ..... but I thought I had found a

more accurate system so that is the way I went.

The approach I took is that I do use a computer as the driver, and I use

a program called Rife Generator 1.4 by Timo Esser. He is an acoustical engineer

and so is familiar with frequencies. His program is capable of producing

square, sine and a couple of other types of waves but the square waves it

produces looks good on the monitor but not on the oscilloscope.

The program offers so many advantages ... pulse,scripts, sweep and so on

that I felt it was an excellent choice for me so I solved the program by

building Ralph Hartwells SSQ2, which converts a SINE wave (via Rife Generator

1.4) into an accurate SQUARE wave.

I run the program to produce a sine wave then feed it from the speaker plug

into the SSQ and from the SSQ down to the electrodes. I have been having

excellent results using just Rife Generator 1.4, but I expect far better through

incorporating the SSQ2. Have also noticed that the better results I have

obtained have been through using a Soundblaster 16 card! Probably because this

puts out about 5.7 volts. Experimenting with a EES card produced literally no

measureable result. This, plus the inaccuracies using a CD to produce the

frequency could be a factor. Not sure yet.

Noticed you contributing on microelectricgermkiller and have downloaded

all the material on GODZILLA by Baby Grand. I don't know why, but I am

beginning to believe that the induction of electrical current into the system

does not necessarily imply that ANY frequency is necessary under certain

condition. You have any thoughts on this aspect?

Bill

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/29/2002 2:46:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

rrochon13@... writes:

<< Regarding microcurrent w/o freq, I know that it is effective in killing a

tooth infection >>

Hi Dick,

Can you explain how you killed a tooth infection? What did you use and do

you place the electrodes on the tooth?

Thanks,

Dotsie

[Guest guest]

Hi, Dotsie,

I think Bob posted it in the files on his group

s . And the plans for building one are

in the photos section.

But for anyone interested, I used a 9v battery with dpdt switch to change

polarity every 5 minutes, or so, and a 10k ohm resistor and 500k ohm pot in

series with the cloth covered electrodes. I wet the electrodes and put one in my

mouth next to the gum of the absessed tooth and the other electrode in the other

side of my mouth. When I changed polarity I turned the resistance up to reduce

the little sting, and then back down again after changing. I used it about an

hour, or less, twice a day for about a week. The pain from hot coffee or food

was almost gone the next morning, but I continued for a few more days to make

sure. I cancelled the dental appt and saved about a grand!

Another tooth started giving me pain with hot drinks a few months later and I

didn't wait for it to develop. Just a couple treatments sent it back where it

came from.

Understand I am not recommending that anyone do this. I am just telling what my

experience was. Someone else might have more or less success, or not at all.

Dick

Re: Great Site!

In a message dated 7/29/2002 2:46:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

rrochon13@... writes:

<< Regarding microcurrent w/o freq, I know that it is effective in killing a

tooth infection >>

Hi Dick,

Can you explain how you killed a tooth infection? What did you use and do

you place the electrodes on the tooth?

Thanks,

Dotsie

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