Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Hi guys... i just did a quick search on raw food diet to see what kind of results i'd get and found these interesting clips.. makes me reconsider the raw food diet and think more hybrid approach to an optimal diet: dental erosion: http://tinyurl.com/qs8ebh <clip> Compared to the control group subjects living on a raw food diet had significantly (ple0.001) more dental erosions. Only 2.3% of the raw food group (13.2% of the controls) had no erosive defects, whereas 37.2% had at least one tooth with a moderate erosion (55.2% of the controls) and 60.5% had at least one tooth with a severe erosion (31.6% of the controls). Within the raw food group no significant correlation was found between nutrition or oral health data and the prevalence of erosions. Nevertheless, the results showed that a raw food diet bears an increased risk of dental erosion compared to conventional nutrition. </clip> *** long term effects of raw food: http://tinyurl.com/o3jp2v (note: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenorrhea -per article) <clip> Conclusions: The consumption of a raw food diet is associated with a high loss of body weight. Since many raw food dieters exhibited underweight and amenorrhea, a very strict raw food diet cannot be recommended on a long-term basis. </clip> *** effects of raw food on hypertension/obesity (and drinking and smoking): source: http://tinyurl.com/pcxzwh <clip> colon; We examined responses to cooked and uncooked food in 32 outpatients with essential hypertension; 28 were also overweight. By varying cooked and uncooked food percentages and salt intake, patients acted as their own control subjects in this unblinded study. After a mean duration of 6.7 months, average intake of uncooked food comprised 62% of calories ingested. Mean weight loss was 3.8 kg and mean diastolic pressure reduction 17.8 mm Hg, both statistically significant (P<.00001). Eighty percent of those who smoked or drank alcohol abstained spontaneously. </clip> *** source: http://tinyurl.com/pawck5 <clip> Recently, vegetarian diets have experienced an increase in popularity. A vegetarian diet is associated with many health benefits because of its higher content of fiber, folic acid, vitamins C and E, potassium, magnesium, and many phytochemicals and a fat content that is more unsaturated. Compared with other vegetarian diets, vegan diets tend to contain less saturated fat and cholesterol and more dietary fiber. Vegans tend to be thinner, have lower serum cholesterol, and lower blood pressure, reducing their risk of heart disease. However, eliminating all animal products from the diet increases the risk of certain nutritional deficiencies. Micronutrients of special concern for the vegan include vitamins B-12 and D, calcium, and long-chain n–3 (omega-3) fatty acids. Unless vegans regularly consume foods that are fortified with these nutrients, appropriate supplements should be consumed. In some cases, iron and zinc status of vegans may also be of concern because of the limited bioavailability of these minerals. </clip> *** source: http://tinyurl.com/oho53v <clip> Background: Few prospective studies have examined cancer incidence among vegetarians. Objective: We report cancer incidence among vegetarians and nonvegetarians in the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition–Oxford (EPIC-Oxford) study. Design: This was a prospective study of 63,550 men and women recruited throughout the United Kingdom in the 1990s. Cancer incidence was followed through nationwide cancer registries. Results: The standardized incidence ratio for all malignant neoplasms for all participants was 72% (95% CI: 69%, 75%). The standardized incidence ratios for colorectal cancer were 84% (95% CI: 73%, 95%) among nonvegetarians and 102% (95% CI: 80%, 129%) among vegetarians. In a comparison of vegetarians with meat eaters and after adjustment for age, sex, and smoking, the incidence rate ratio for all malignant neoplasms was 0.89 (95% CI: 0.80, 1.00). The incidence rate ratio for colorectal cancer in vegetarians compared with meat eaters was 1.39 (95% CI: 1.01, 1.91). Conclusions: The overall cancer incidence rates of both the vegetarians and the nonvegetarians in this study are low compared with national rates. Within the study, the incidence of all cancers combined was lower among vegetarians than among meat eaters, but the incidence of colorectal cancer was higher in vegetarians than in meat eaters. </clip> Kelvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I think those studies are very limited in their results. Out of all the tribes Weston A. Price studied the Masai warriors had the least amount of dental problems. They likely never brushed their teeth either! Their diet was high in raw milk, almost 2 gallons a day. When it comes to dental problems it may be likely to a, d, k2 deficiency and too much fruit, honey, and vegetables. I may be wrong, but I think too much fructose, sucrose, and simple carbs in general hurts our immune system and weakens several areas of our health. The Eskimos and Muran ate almost all raw but neither of their diets was very high in the above detrimental foods. The Muran had a lot of lactose but I'm not sure what kind of detriments lactose from raw dairy would have. It may have nothing to do with simple carbs, but may only be due to a vitamin deficiency. Both tribes had high quantities of a, d, and k2 from animals. Babies thrive on my, so perhaps for those adapted to it in adulthood it is the best source of nutrition. The Masai warriors had a high quantity of other vitamins and minerals too. I feel a Weston Price style raw food plan with cooked starches is optimal. Maybe with a couple guidelines, low vegetable, low fruit, and the primary fermented foods being sauerkraut, beet kvass, and kimchi. Some raw honey is good, too much is not good. Yours Truly, Dan Holt On May 16, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Kelvin <kelvin.internet@...> wrote: Hi guys... i just did a quick search on raw food diet to see what kind of results i'd get and found these interesting clips.. makes me reconsider the raw food diet and think more hybrid approach to an optimal diet: dental erosion: http://tinyurl.com/qs8ebh <clip> Compared to the control group subjects living on a raw food diet had significantly (ple0.001) more dental erosions. Only 2.3% of the raw food group (13.2% of the controls) had no erosive defects, whereas 37.2% had at least one tooth with a moderate erosion (55.2% of the controls) and 60.5% had at least one tooth with a severe erosion (31.6% of the controls). Within the raw food group no significant correlation was found between nutrition or oral health data and the prevalence of erosions. Nevertheless, the results showed that a raw food diet bears an increased risk of dental erosion compared to conventional nutrition. </clip> *** long term effects of raw food: http://tinyurl.com/o3jp2v (note: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenorrhea -per article) <clip> Conclusions: The consumption of a raw food diet is associated with a high loss of body weight. Since many raw food dieters exhibited underweight and amenorrhea, a very strict raw food diet cannot be recommended on a long-term basis. </clip> *** effects of raw food on hypertension/obesity (and drinking and smoking): source: http://tinyurl.com/pcxzwh <clip> colon; We examined responses to cooked and uncooked food in 32 outpatients with essential hypertension; 28 were also overweight. By varying cooked and uncooked food percentages and salt intake, patients acted as their own control subjects in this unblinded study. After a mean duration of 6.7 months, average intake of uncooked food comprised 62% of calories ingested. Mean weight loss was 3.8 kg and mean diastolic pressure reduction 17.8 mm Hg, both statistically significant (P<.00001). Eighty percent of those who smoked or drank alcohol abstained spontaneously. </clip> *** source: http://tinyurl.com/pawck5 <clip> Recently, vegetarian diets have experienced an increase in popularity. A vegetarian diet is associated with many health benefits because of its higher content of fiber, folic acid, vitamins C and E, potassium, magnesium, and many phytochemicals and a fat content that is more unsaturated. Compared with other vegetarian diets, vegan diets tend to contain less saturated fat and cholesterol and more dietary fiber. Vegans tend to be thinner, have lower serum cholesterol, and lower blood pressure, reducing their risk of heart disease. However, eliminating all animal products from the diet increases the risk of certain nutritional deficiencies. Micronutrients of special concern for the vegan include vitamins B-12 and D, calcium, and long-chain n–3 (omega-3) fatty acids. Unless vegans regularly consume foods that are fortified with these nutrients, appropriate supplements should be consumed. In some cases, iron and zinc status of vegans may also be of concern because of the limited bioavailability of these minerals. </clip> *** source: http://tinyurl.com/oho53v <clip> Background: Few prospective studies have examined cancer incidence among vegetarians. Objective: We report cancer incidence among vegetarians and nonvegetarians in the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition–Oxford (EPIC-Oxford) study. Design: This was a prospective study of 63,550 men and women recruited throughout the United Kingdom in the 1990s. Cancer incidence was followed through nationwide cancer registries. Results: The standardized incidence ratio for all malignant neoplasms for all participants was 72% (95% CI: 69%, 75%). The standardized incidence ratios for colorectal cancer were 84% (95% CI: 73%, 95%) among nonvegetarians and 102% (95% CI: 80%, 129%) among vegetarians. In a comparison of vegetarians with meat eaters and after adjustment for age, sex, and smoking, the incidence rate ratio for all malignant neoplasms was 0.89 (95% CI: 0.80, 1.00). The incidence rate ratio for colorectal cancer in vegetarians compared with meat eaters was 1.39 (95% CI: 1.01, 1.91). Conclusions: The overall cancer incidence rates of both the vegetarians and the nonvegetarians in this study are low compared with national rates. Within the study, the incidence of all cancers combined was lower among vegetarians than among meat eaters, but the incidence of colorectal cancer was higher in vegetarians than in meat eaters. </clip> Kelvin ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I should look up this weston a price thing... never heard of it til i joined this group... i agree with the carbs and sugars observation... that prolly was a factor in the dental deterioration... in fact, when i went low carb/sugars for about a month, the plaque on my teeth literally fell out when i picked at it... was GREAT! better than having the dentist scrape it off w/a sharp metal implement! but definitely a " hard diet " to get used to for me... i really miss the carbs on that type of diet. i think i'll revisit tho... i've already gained great benefits going mostly veggies... would love to see how my body is affected when i cut down the carb and sugar (from fruits since i don't take anything packaged these days)... Kelvin On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Holt <danthemanholt@...> wrote: > > > > I think those studies are very limited in their results. Out of all the > tribes Weston A. Price studied the Masai warriors had the least amount of > dental problems. They likely never brushed their teeth either! > > Their diet was high in raw milk, almost 2 gallons a day. > > When it comes to dental problems it may be likely to a, d, k2 deficiency and > too much fruit, honey, and vegetables. I may be wrong, but I think too much > fructose, sucrose, and simple carbs in general hurts our immune system and > weakens several areas of our health. The Eskimos and Muran ate almost all > raw but neither of their diets was very high in the above detrimental foods. > The Muran had a lot of lactose but I'm not sure what kind of detriments > lactose from raw dairy would have. It may have nothing to do with simple > carbs, but may only be due to a vitamin deficiency. Both tribes had high > quantities of a, d, and k2 from animals. Babies thrive on my, so perhaps for > those adapted to it in adulthood it is the best source of nutrition. > > The Masai warriors had a high quantity of other vitamins and minerals too. > > I feel a Weston Price style raw food plan with cooked starches is optimal. > Maybe with a couple guidelines, low vegetable, low fruit, and the primary > fermented foods being sauerkraut, beet kvass, and kimchi. Some raw honey is > good, too much is not good. > > Yours Truly, > Dan Holt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 you can read Price's book here http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html here's a link to the Weston A. Price Foundation http://www.westonaprice.org/ > > > > > > > > I think those studies are very limited in their results. Out of all the > > tribes Weston A. Price studied the Masai warriors had the least amount of > > dental problems. They likely never brushed their teeth either! > > > > Their diet was high in raw milk, almost 2 gallons a day. > > > > When it comes to dental problems it may be likely to a, d, k2 deficiency and > > too much fruit, honey, and vegetables. I may be wrong, but I think too much > > fructose, sucrose, and simple carbs in general hurts our immune system and > > weakens several areas of our health. The Eskimos and Muran ate almost all > > raw but neither of their diets was very high in the above detrimental foods. > > The Muran had a lot of lactose but I'm not sure what kind of detriments > > lactose from raw dairy would have. It may have nothing to do with simple > > carbs, but may only be due to a vitamin deficiency. Both tribes had high > > quantities of a, d, and k2 from animals. Babies thrive on my, so perhaps for > > those adapted to it in adulthood it is the best source of nutrition. > > > > The Masai warriors had a high quantity of other vitamins and minerals too. > > > > I feel a Weston Price style raw food plan with cooked starches is optimal. > > Maybe with a couple guidelines, low vegetable, low fruit, and the primary > > fermented foods being sauerkraut, beet kvass, and kimchi. Some raw honey is > > good, too much is not good. > > > > Yours Truly, > > Dan Holt > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 > > Out of all the tribes Weston A. Price studied the Masai warriors had the least amount of dental problems. I don't have the book anymore, but i think the Eskimos had the lowest % of cavities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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