Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 >>I had my Development class today, and I asked your question. Wanted to let >>you know the response I got, number 1, 2, and 4 being red flags- " How does >>a man's drinking affect his offspring? 1) Alcohol lowers a man's >>testosterone levels.<< snip >>In conclusion, although alcohol is linked to many disorders in babies, as >>far as I can tell, it's not linked specifically to autism. Though I think >>the info on fathers and alcohol is intriguing, because I've seen research >>online regarding a study done on Autism and testosterone in the female >>being a factor. << Prof Simon Baron-Cohen (Cambridge UK) is investigating a link with *increased* testosterone levels during pregnancy, which are created by the *foetus* itself. IOW, the foetus already has the genes which cause it to produce more testosterone. This is linked with the " extreme male brain " theory, which you can read about in his book " The Essential Difference " . They are also looking into a possible link with PCOS - polycystic ovary, which causes increased testosterone in the mother. Here is the link for his research unit: http://www.autismresearchcentre.com/arc/default.asp I'm not sure if you can do the questionnaire tests on-line, but they are called the EQ and SQ (empathy and systemising quotients). They are not diagnostics. Also try the 'reading the mind in the eyes' test.if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Thanks Anne, for your interesting information regarding the affects of male Alcoholism on his offspring. I am the adoptive mother of Cody age 4 whos father was an alcoholic and with Codys family history I have been able to assume that his father was most likely Aspergers also. I think in many Asperger cases alcohol becomes an escape from a frustrating world that is hard to understand. That is not to say that all people with Aspergers are doomed to become alcoholics. It just gives us a heads up as to how important it is to try and teach our children how to cope in an unsure world. Thanks again for your informative email. Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 No problem Maureen- it was a great question and I just wanted to explore it further. I love doing the research type stuff! Anne -- Re: Re: Alcoholism Thanks Anne, for your interesting information regarding the affects of male Alcoholism on his offspring. I am the adoptive mother of Cody age 4 whos father was an alcoholic and with Codys family history I have been able to assume that his father was most likely Aspergers also. I think in many Asperger cases alcohol becomes an escape from a frustrating world that is hard to understand. That is not to say that all people with Aspergers are doomed to become alcoholics. It just gives us a heads up as to how important it is to try and teach our children how to cope in an unsure world. Thanks again for your informative email. Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Thank you for this link. I think this is a fascinating piece of research, especially because after I had Cameron, I had problems with my reproductive system and went to get it checked out- had a hormone imbalance- testosterone was too high causing a lack of menstruation. So when I read this theory, things seem to click for me. I think we're going to find out that there are so many different things that actually cause autism, they're going to start diagnosing it differentlt based on what they think is the cause- JMO. Anne -- Re: Re: Alcoholism >>I had my Development class today, and I asked your question. Wanted to let >>you know the response I got, number 1, 2, and 4 being red flags- "How does >>a man's drinking affect his offspring? 1) Alcohol lowers a man's >>testosterone levels.<<snip>>In conclusion, although alcohol is linked to many disorders in babies, as >>far as I can tell, it's not linked specifically to autism. Though I think >>the info on fathers and alcohol is intriguing, because I've seen research >>online regarding a study done on Autism and testosterone in the female >>being a factor. <<Prof Simon Baron-Cohen (Cambridge UK) is investigating a link with *increased* testosterone levels during pregnancy, which are created by the *foetus* itself. IOW, the foetus already has the genes which cause it to produce more testosterone. This is linked with the "extreme male brain" theory, which you can read about in his book "The Essential Difference". They are also looking into a possible link with PCOS - polycystic ovary, which causes increased testosterone in the mother.Here is the link for his research unit:http://www.autismresearchcentre.com/arc/default.aspI'm not sure if you can do the questionnaire tests on-line, but they are called the EQ and SQ (empathy and systemising quotients). They are not diagnostics. Also try the 'reading the mind in the eyes' test.if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 I think we're going to find out that there are so many different things that actually cause autism, they're going to start diagnosing it differentlt based on what they think is the cause- JMO. LOL, I heard that there is already a new system in the making....but I havent heard anything about a cause yet tho. Ya think maybe they are just trying to find a new way to deny services to our kids. candy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Probably. Anne -- Re: Alcoholism I think we're going to find out that there are so many different things that actually cause autism, they're going to start diagnosing it differentlt based on what they think is the cause- JMO.LOL, I heard that there is already a new system in the making....but I havent heard anything about a cause yet tho.Ya think maybe they are just trying to find a new way to deny services to our kids. candy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Hi Team! I just happened to listen to a radio interview with Dr. Saul on One Radio Network with Timpone. (Well worth the time to listen and you can access his archives free.) Anyway, Dr. Saul wrote a book called The Vitamin Cure for Alcoholism. You can find it on his website at www.doctoryourself.com. There is a lot of info to explore there on all kinds of health issues. Hope it helps. Peace on earth. Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Shari I hear you.. My DH is 25 plus. Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. From: SV <shavig@...>Subject: Re: alcoholismhealth Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 9:30 PM Well, alcoholism is described as "an allergy of the body and an obsession of the mind". If alcohol was the problem people would get better when they remove the alcohol. Unfortunately it is not the alcohol that causes the problem it is the mind that triggers a phenomenon of craving that has no satisfaction point. Personally I wouldn't want to take a pill to not drink. I like where I am after 22 years of recovery with a 12 step program. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I am somewhere around 21 years. Don't remember because it is no longer important. Gayla Bob and Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, CA Re: alcoholismhealth Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 9:30 PM Well, alcoholism is described as "an allergy of the body and an obsession of the mind". If alcohol was the problem people would get better when they remove the alcohol. Unfortunately it is not the alcohol that causes the problem it is the mind that triggers a phenomenon of craving that has no satisfaction point. Personally I wouldn't want to take a pill to not drink. I like where I am after 22 years of recovery with a 12 step program. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 And that is what is important... Suzi AWESOME! I'm up at 4 a.m. to make the 6 a.m. meeting before work. A friends' son is picking up his 5 month chip and I want to be there. Of course I'm there every morning! It's my "prayer" time. Some folks use the side of the bed, I use the meeting at 6 a.m. for an hour as my prayer and meditation to start the day. Works for me. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I'll check it out. I've heard that alcoholics are depleted in Vit B12, with can lead to myopia and neuropathy. I suggested that she increase her B complex intake. Peace, love, laughter > > Hi Team! > > I just happened to listen to a radio interview with Dr. Saul on One Radio Network with Timpone. (Well worth the time to listen and you can access his archives free.) > > Anyway, Dr. Saul wrote a book called The Vitamin Cure for Alcoholism. You can find it on his website at www.doctoryourself.com. There is a lot of info to explore there on all kinds of health issues. Hope it helps. > > Peace on earth. > > Cheryl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I agree to a degree. The DT's were rough for me, the shakes and sweats, the audio hallucinations, the restless legs. that lasted about a week. But the mental " need " went on much longer. It is indeed as much a physical disease as a mental one. 15 yrs here. Peace, love, laughter > > Well, alcoholism is described as " an allergy of the body and an obsession of the mind " . If alcohol was the problem people would get better when they remove the alcohol. Unfortunately it is not the alcohol that causes the problem it is the mind that triggers a phenomenon of craving that has no satisfaction point. > > Personally I wouldn't want to take a pill to not drink. I like where I am after 22 years of recovery with a 12 step program. > > Shari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Good for him! Peace, love, laughter > > Shari > I hear you.. My DH is 25 plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Back in CA, when I was a Legal Assistant, my boss's girlfriend used that pill, and she still drank like a fish. Of course, my boss was a raging alcoholic too. Made for an interesting work day. Peace, love, laughter > > EXACTLY, Gayla. A pill ain't going to fix what's wrong in my head! I think it was called " antibuse " and I run into people in the program all the time who took it and drank anyway. > > Shari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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