Been busy making myself sick........

[Guest guest]

Hey guys,

Long time no post!

I have a question. Has anyone ever done the bowel cleanse and liver cleanse (Dr

Schulze) at the same time? Would that be pointless with the Formula #2 absorbing

everything?

If any of you remember me I had all the problems due to pooping once a month for

10 years. I always seemed to be okay for a while and then Form #1 would stop

working and I'd have to take more and more. Then I'd be fine. Then worse..... I

was always upping and downing and upping my pill intake.

Well after avoiding doctors my entire life... I just had 25 dr appointments, 2

ER visits, more things crammed up my butt and down my throat than I care to talk

about, scans scans scans, and tried 4 prescriptions in the past 3 months (which

I stopped taking because they just make one thing better and another worse). And

all the tests are getting me nowhere in a big hurry. They finally confirmed

gallstones in my gallbladder and liver (You can have gallstones in your liver?

New knowledge for me) and abnormalities of my pancreas. Um... I guess that could

be causing all the reflux, pain in my stomach, and waking up feeling like I'm

having a heart attack at least once a week.

After half assing my herbal/healthy eating and going off it then half assing it

some more (and hate to admit have been eating like a slovenly PIG the past 1.5

years) looks like its time to make some permanent changes.

First I'll be trying a liver cleanse (although I have a hard time holding down

WATER these days so the tea..... hmmmmm I don't know). But I also want to try a

bowel cleanse. My problem with the bowel cleanse has always remained the same

though. I take #1 til things are working better but the day I start #2 I clog

up.

And my gallbladder on the ultrasound... well lets just say it was rather

pathetic. It was so small it took 45 minutes and 2 people to FIND IT. Then it

shrunk some more, changed shape, and ducked behind my stomach. (isn't it stuck

in 1 spot?) is there an herb that works on a gallbladder that wouldn't be in the

liver/gallbladder cleanse?

Aaargh. Some suggestions on where to start would be great. And yes, I know, I'm

a MESS!

Candace

[Guest guest]

Through dietary mistakes, stress, an unbalanced lifestyle, the use of drugs and chemical poisons such as food additives and artificial sweeteners (Aspartame), the liver bile ducts become clogged with deposits of hardened bile or "gallstones." The resulting impairment of digestive functions reduces the nutrient supply to the trillions of cells in the body and may become a major cause of illness. That being said... do not do the two cleanses together.. Each has a specific function... neither will work well being done together. Do the bowel cleanse first then the liver. Your body is telling you it is at the point of "Clean up your act" or "Die a slow death".... I hate to be so blunt... but..

Start by eating raw to lightly steamed and plenty of water the next week or two before you start the cleanse. Now once you do the cleanses... you must change your eating habits or it will all be for not.

Anyone suffering any of the following symptoms or similar ones is likely to have hundreds, if not thousands, of gallstones blocking the bile ducts of the liver:

Food cravings, diarrhea, constipation, hernia, flatulence, haemorrhoids, breathing difficulties, hepatitis and other types of infection, high cholesterol, pancreatitis, heart disease, brain disorders, duodenal ulcers, nausea and vomiting, a "bilious" or angry personality, depression, impotence and other sexual problems, prostate diseases, urinary problems, hormonal imbalances, PMT and menopausal symptoms, problems with vision, puffy eyes, all skin disorders, liver spots especially on the back of the hands and facial area, excessive weight or wasting, strong shoulder and back pain, a pain at the top of the shoulder blade, frozen shoulder, stiff neck, dark color under the eyes, coated tongue, scoliosis, gout, asthma, headaches and migraines, tooth and gum problems, yellowness of the eyes and skin, sciatica, numbness and paralysis of legs, joint diseases, osteoporosis, obesity, chronic fatigue, kidney diseases, cancer, MS, ME,

cold extremities, excessive heat and perspiration in the upper part of the body, very greasy hair, to name some.

By removing the stones through a series of liver cleanses (usually six to eight are sufficient to fully restore liver performance), and consequently maintaining a reasonably healthy diet and lifestyle, the liver returns to its natural efficiency, and most, if not all, symptoms of discomfort begin to subside. Energy and well-being notably increase with each cleanse.

Sweeping the liver clean eliminates thousands of bits of poisonous substances that have helped form the stones and block thousands of liver bile ducts. Cleansing the liver bile ducts from gallstones may indeed be one of the most important and powerful procedures around to dramatically improve one's health and raise the body's vibration. By re-opening the bile ducts, the body's energy circuits becomes restored and healing can take place on all levels of body, mind and spirit.

s Moritz is a medical intuitive, practitioner of Ayurveda, Iridology, Shiatsu and Vibrational Medicine

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From: Candace P <candaceandbrock@...>Subject: Been busy making myself sick........health Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 6:54 PM

Hey guys,Long time no post!I have a question. Has anyone ever done the bowel cleanse and liver cleanse (Dr Schulze) at the same time? Would that be pointless with the Formula #2 absorbing everything?If any of you remember me I had all the problems due to pooping once a month for 10 years. I always seemed to be okay for a while and then Form #1 would stop working and I'd have to take more and more. Then I'd be fine. Then worse..... I was always upping and downing and upping my pill intake.Well after avoiding doctors my entire life... I just had 25 dr appointments, 2 ER visits, more things crammed up my butt and down my throat than I care to talk about, scans scans scans, and tried 4 prescriptions in the past 3 months (which I stopped taking because they just make one thing better and another worse). And all the tests are getting me nowhere in a big hurry. They finally confirmed gallstones in my

gallbladder and liver (You can have gallstones in your liver? New knowledge for me) and abnormalities of my pancreas. Um... I guess that could be causing all the reflux, pain in my stomach, and waking up feeling like I'm having a heart attack at least once a week.After half assing my herbal/healthy eating and going off it then half assing it some more (and hate to admit have been eating like a slovenly PIG the past 1.5 years) looks like its time to make some permanent changes. First I'll be trying a liver cleanse (although I have a hard time holding down WATER these days so the tea..... hmmmmm I don't know). But I also want to try a bowel cleanse. My problem with the bowel cleanse has always remained the same though. I take #1 til things are working better but the day I start #2 I clog up.And my gallbladder on the ultrasound... well lets just say it was rather pathetic. It was so small it took 45 minutes and 2 people to FIND IT.

Then it shrunk some more, changed shape, and ducked behind my stomach. (isn't it stuck in 1 spot?) is there an herb that works on a gallbladder that wouldn't be in the liver/gallbladder cleanse?Aaargh. Some suggestions on where to start would be great. And yes, I know, I'm a MESS!

[Guest guest]

Oh boy... these symptoms came on years ago and then went away and I think the only reason I didn't die this long slow death before was because I went to being 95% vegetarian and did occasional cleanses.

Over the last year and a half.... nope. Ate like a pig. Just had "no time". Well now I miss so much work I can't say I have no time cuz I lay around bein miserable a LOT!

My symptoms:

horrible pain and pressure under my ribs

a "blockage" on the right side found in an xray -poop just chillin takin in the scenery

pre-ulcerous sores all over in my stomach and duodenum(sp?)

reflux

tasting blood in my mouth

black diarhea

RED bloody diarhea (really heavy for 2 days after the ultrasound)

gut swells so much at night I look 6 months pregnant

hard time breathing

non-stop period for 1.5 months

pain pain pain pain PAIN

and my G.I. doc said I'm showing signs of malnourishment (I can barely stay awake - guess that explains that)

I honestly think since I'm anemic and the symptoms are really starting to rage - maybe I should do the liver cleanse first? Or I suppose getting waste out would probably give my organs a little sigh of relief to start out!?

Candace ~who is actually looking forward to breaking out my "non cooked book"~

From: Candace P <candaceandbrock>Subject: [HAWK_Health_ Awareness] Been busy making myself sick........HAWK_Health_ AwarenessDate: Monday, April 27, 2009, 6:54 PM

Hey guys,Long time no post!I have a question. Has anyone ever done the bowel cleanse and liver cleanse (Dr Schulze) at the same time? Would that be pointless with the Formula #2 absorbing everything?If any of you remember me I had all the problems due to pooping once a month for 10 years. I always seemed to be okay for a while and then Form #1 would stop working and I'd have to take more and more. Then I'd be fine. Then worse..... I was always upping and downing and upping my pill intake.Well after avoiding doctors my entire life... I just had 25 dr appointments, 2 ER visits, more things crammed up my butt and down my throat than I care to talk about, scans scans scans, and tried 4 prescriptions in the past 3 months (which I stopped taking because they just make one thing better and another worse). And all the tests are getting me nowhere in a big hurry. They finally confirmed gallstones in my

gallbladder and liver (You can have gallstones in your liver? New knowledge for me) and abnormalities of my pancreas. Um... I guess that could be causing all the reflux, pain in my stomach, and waking up feeling like I'm having a heart attack at least once a week.After half assing my herbal/healthy eating and going off it then half assing it some more (and hate to admit have been eating like a slovenly PIG the past 1.5 years) looks like its time to make some permanent changes. First I'll be trying a liver cleanse (although I have a hard time holding down WATER these days so the tea..... hmmmmm I don't know). But I also want to try a bowel cleanse. My problem with the bowel cleanse has always remained the same though. I take #1 til things are working better but the day I start #2 I clog up.And my gallbladder on the ultrasound.. . well lets just say it was rather pathetic. It was so small it took 45 minutes and 2 people to FIND IT.

Then it shrunk some more, changed shape, and ducked behind my stomach. (isn't it stuck in 1 spot?) is there an herb that works on a gallbladder that wouldn't be in the liver/gallbladder cleanse?Aaargh. Some suggestions on where to start would be great. And yes, I know, I'm a MESS!

[Guest guest]

yes. ... Do you have any complete or total nutrition powder?? Would be good to be taking it. Do you take any herbs vitamins etc??

Suzi

From: Candace P <candaceandbrock>Subject: [HAWK_Health_ Awareness] Been busy making myself sick........HAWK_Health_ AwarenessDate: Monday, April 27, 2009, 6:54 PM

Hey guys,Long time no post!I have a question. Has anyone ever done the bowel cleanse and liver cleanse (Dr Schulze) at the same time? Would that be pointless with the Formula #2 absorbing everything?If any of you remember me I had all the problems due to pooping once a month for 10 years. I always seemed to be okay for a while and then Form #1 would stop working and I'd have to take more and more. Then I'd be fine. Then worse..... I was always upping and downing and upping my pill intake.Well after avoiding doctors my entire life... I just had 25 dr appointments, 2 ER visits, more things crammed up my butt and down my throat than I care to talk about, scans scans scans, and tried 4 prescriptions in the past 3 months (which I stopped taking because they just make one thing better and another worse). And all the tests are getting me nowhere in a big hurry. They finally confirmed gallstones in my

gallbladder and liver (You can have gallstones in your liver? New knowledge for me) and abnormalities of my pancreas. Um... I guess that could be causing all the reflux, pain in my stomach, and waking up feeling like I'm having a heart attack at least once a week.After half assing my herbal/healthy eating and going off it then half assing it some more (and hate to admit have been eating like a slovenly PIG the past 1.5 years) looks like its time to make some permanent changes. First I'll be trying a liver cleanse (although I have a hard time holding down WATER these days so the tea..... hmmmmm I don't know). But I also want to try a bowel cleanse. My problem with the bowel cleanse has always remained the same though. I take #1 til things are working better but the day I start #2 I clog up.And my gallbladder on the ultrasound.. . well lets just say it was rather pathetic. It was so small it took 45 minutes and 2 people to FIND IT.

Then it shrunk some more, changed shape, and ducked behind my stomach. (isn't it stuck in 1 spot?) is there an herb that works on a gallbladder that wouldn't be in the liver/gallbladder cleanse?Aaargh. Some suggestions on where to start would be great. And yes, I know, I'm a MESS!

[Guest guest]

I have the kits to do a bowel, liver, and kidney cleanse. Wasn't sure what to start first. Also have superfood. I started taking that several times throughout the day. It seems to be helping my energy level a tiny little bit.

I've also been taking Fish Oil capsules twice a day and eating cloves of garlic in olive oil (let me tell ya how much my stomach likes that) I had stopped taking Fomula #1 because taking it gives me about 2 hours of ~oh no I'm gonna die~ pain because of all the sores in my stomach. But no pain no gain, right? It'll beat what will happen next if I don't take it!

Candace

From: Candace P <candaceandbrock>Subject: [HAWK_Health_ Awareness] Been busy making myself sick........HAWK_Health_ AwarenessDate: Monday, April 27, 2009, 6:54 PM

Hey guys,Long time no post!I have a question. Has anyone ever done the bowel cleanse and liver cleanse (Dr Schulze) at the same time? Would that be pointless with the Formula #2 absorbing everything?If any of you remember me I had all the problems due to pooping once a month for 10 years. I always seemed to be okay for a while and then Form #1 would stop working and I'd have to take more and more. Then I'd be fine. Then worse..... I was always upping and downing and upping my pill intake.Well after avoiding doctors my entire life... I just had 25 dr appointments, 2 ER visits, more things crammed up my butt and down my throat than I care to talk about, scans scans scans, and tried 4 prescriptions in the past 3 months (which I stopped taking because they just make one thing better and another worse). And all the tests are getting me nowhere in a big hurry. They finally confirmed gallstones in my

gallbladder and liver (You can have gallstones in your liver? New knowledge for me) and abnormalities of my pancreas. Um... I guess that could be causing all the reflux, pain in my stomach, and waking up feeling like I'm having a heart attack at least once a week.After half assing my herbal/healthy eating and going off it then half assing it some more (and hate to admit have been eating like a slovenly PIG the past 1.5 years) looks like its time to make some permanent changes. First I'll be trying a liver cleanse (although I have a hard time holding down WATER these days so the tea..... hmmmmm I don't know). But I also want to try a bowel cleanse. My problem with the bowel cleanse has always remained the same though. I take #1 til things are working better but the day I start #2 I clog up.And my gallbladder on the ultrasound.. . well lets just say it was rather pathetic. It was so small it took 45 minutes and 2 people to FIND IT.

Then it shrunk some more, changed shape, and ducked behind my stomach. (isn't it stuck in 1 spot?) is there an herb that works on a gallbladder that wouldn't be in the liver/gallbladder cleanse?Aaargh. Some suggestions on where to start would be great. And yes, I know, I'm a MESS!

[Guest guest]

Hi candace.

Sorry to hear you are not doing so well (

From what i recall you continue Formula #1 & #2 into the first couple of Days of

Liver cleanse and then stop on the Fast days.

Also, i recall (and hubby had to do this when he did cleanse) that some people

may need to up their dose of #1 during the week of Formula #2 to account for the

extra sludge. The last time i cleansed i found i actually had to do this as

well. Then after the week of " black Sutff " and when you are regulated, you

taper back to one or two caps a day.

i'm going to email you off line

Syl (by the way how is little gamer Brock)

--- In health , " Candace P " <candaceandbrock@...>

wrote:

>

> Hey guys,

>

> Long time no post!

>

> I have a question. Has anyone ever done the bowel cleanse and liver cleanse

(Dr Schulze) at the same time? Would that be pointless with the Formula #2

absorbing everything?

>

> If any of you remember me I had all the problems due to pooping once a month

for 10 years. I always seemed to be okay for a while and then Form #1 would stop

working and I'd have to take more and more. Then I'd be fine. Then worse..... I

was always upping and downing and upping my pill intake.

>

> Well after avoiding doctors my entire life... I just had 25 dr appointments, 2

ER visits, more things crammed up my butt and down my throat than I care to talk

about, scans scans scans, and tried 4 prescriptions in the past 3 months (which

I stopped taking because they just make one thing better and another worse). And

all the tests are getting me nowhere in a big hurry. They finally confirmed

gallstones in my gallbladder and liver (You can have gallstones in your liver?

New knowledge for me) and abnormalities of my pancreas. Um... I guess that could

be causing all the reflux, pain in my stomach, and waking up feeling like I'm

having a heart attack at least once a week.

>

> After half assing my herbal/healthy eating and going off it then half assing

it some more (and hate to admit have been eating like a slovenly PIG the past

1.5 years) looks like its time to make some permanent changes.

>

> First I'll be trying a liver cleanse (although I have a hard time holding down

WATER these days so the tea..... hmmmmm I don't know). But I also want to try a

bowel cleanse. My problem with the bowel cleanse has always remained the same

though. I take #1 til things are working better but the day I start #2 I clog

up.

>

> And my gallbladder on the ultrasound... well lets just say it was rather

pathetic. It was so small it took 45 minutes and 2 people to FIND IT. Then it

shrunk some more, changed shape, and ducked behind my stomach. (isn't it stuck

in 1 spot?) is there an herb that works on a gallbladder that wouldn't be in the

liver/gallbladder cleanse?

>

> Aaargh. Some suggestions on where to start would be great. And yes, I know,

I'm a MESS!

>

>

> Candace

>

[Guest guest]

Candace, have your doctors ruled out Crohn's Disease, which is an Inflammatory Bowel Disease?ettehttp://www.pbase.com/gsds4me " Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. "  Aldous Huxley

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Candace P <candaceandbrock@...> wrote:

My symptoms:

horrible pain and pressure under my ribs

a " blockage " on the right side found in an xray -poop just chillin takin in the scenery

pre-ulcerous sores all over in my stomach and duodenum(sp?)

reflux

tasting blood in my mouth

black diarhea

RED bloody diarhea (really heavy for 2 days after the ultrasound)

gut swells so much at night I look 6 months pregnant

hard time breathing

non-stop period for 1.5 months

pain pain pain pain PAIN

and my G.I. doc said I'm showing signs of malnourishment (I can barely stay awake - guess that explains that)

[Guest guest]

I think with my intestines I'd have to take Formula #1 along with ANY cleanse I do. I'm so backed up/clogged I'd be afraid I'd clog 1/2 way through a liver cleanse and get really sick!

I think I'd actually have to double my Formula #1 during a bowel cleanse. EVERYTHING clogs me!

Brock is still at it.

Candace

From: Sylvia <h10feet@...>Subject: Re: Been busy making myself sick........health Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 6:23 PM

Hi candace.Sorry to hear you are not doing so well (From what i recall you continue Formula #1 & #2 into the first couple of Days of Liver cleanse and then stop on the Fast days.Also, i recall (and hubby had to do this when he did cleanse) that some people may need to up their dose of #1 during the week of Formula #2 to account for the extra sludge. The last time i cleansed i found i actually had to do this as well. Then after the week of "black Sutff" and when you are regulated, you taper back to one or two caps a day.i'm going to email you off lineSyl (by the way how is little gamer Brock)>> Hey guys,> > Long time no post!> > I have a question. Has anyone ever done the bowel

cleanse and liver cleanse (Dr Schulze) at the same time? Would that be pointless with the Formula #2 absorbing everything?> > If any of you remember me I had all the problems due to pooping once a month for 10 years. I always seemed to be okay for a while and then Form #1 would stop working and I'd have to take more and more. Then I'd be fine. Then worse..... I was always upping and downing and upping my pill intake.> > Well after avoiding doctors my entire life... I just had 25 dr appointments, 2 ER visits, more things crammed up my butt and down my throat than I care to talk about, scans scans scans, and tried 4 prescriptions in the past 3 months (which I stopped taking because they just make one thing better and another worse). And all the tests are getting me nowhere in a big hurry. They finally confirmed gallstones in my gallbladder and liver (You can have gallstones in your liver? New knowledge for me) and abnormalities

of my pancreas. Um... I guess that could be causing all the reflux, pain in my stomach, and waking up feeling like I'm having a heart attack at least once a week.> > After half assing my herbal/healthy eating and going off it then half assing it some more (and hate to admit have been eating like a slovenly PIG the past 1.5 years) looks like its time to make some permanent changes. > > First I'll be trying a liver cleanse (although I have a hard time holding down WATER these days so the tea..... hmmmmm I don't know). But I also want to try a bowel cleanse. My problem with the bowel cleanse has always remained the same though. I take #1 til things are working better but the day I start #2 I clog up.> > And my gallbladder on the ultrasound.. . well lets just say it was rather pathetic. It was so small it took 45 minutes and 2 people to FIND IT. Then it shrunk some more, changed shape, and ducked behind my stomach.

(isn't it stuck in 1 spot?) is there an herb that works on a gallbladder that wouldn't be in the liver/gallbladder cleanse?> > Aaargh. Some suggestions on where to start would be great. And yes, I know, I'm a MESS!> > > Candace>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure how they test for Crohns disease. I've had all kinds of tests and scans.

Isn't that more of a diarhea type ailment? I'm chronically constipated.

Candace

My symptoms:

horrible pain and pressure under my ribs

a "blockage" on the right side found in an xray -poop just chillin takin in the scenery

pre-ulcerous sores all over in my stomach and duodenum(sp? )

reflux

tasting blood in my mouth

black diarhea

RED bloody diarhea (really heavy for 2 days after the ultrasound)

gut swells so much at night I look 6 months pregnant

hard time breathing

non-stop period for 1.5 months

pain pain pain pain PAIN

and my G.I. doc said I'm showing signs of malnourishment (I can barely stay awake - guess that explains that)

[Guest guest]

Crohn's can manifest itself different ways.  Usually it's diarrhea but not unheard of for people to have constipation.    Usually it's diagnosed by a colonoscopy which will show the inflammation.  They can also do a barium meal follow through.   If you have inflammation around your terminal ilieum you will not absorb the nutrients in your food and malnutrition can result.  Many of your other symptoms could also be attributed to a " flare " in Crohn's.   Many Crohn's patients will end up with surgery to remove particuarly bad pieces of bowel, giving them relief from the pain, at least until the next flare.  Has your doctor tested for Crohn's, or mentioned it?  It might be worth bringing it up next time you see them.

etteOn Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Candace P <candaceandbrock@...> wrote:

I'm not sure how they test for Crohns disease. I've had all kinds of tests and scans. 

 

Isn't that more of a diarhea type ailment? I'm chronically constipated.

Candace

 

My symptoms:

horrible pain and pressure under my ribs

a " blockage " on the right side found in an xray -poop just chillin takin in the scenery

pre-ulcerous sores all over in my stomach and duodenum(sp? )

reflux

tasting blood in my mouth

black diarhea

RED bloody diarhea (really heavy for 2 days after the ultrasound)

gut swells so much at night I look 6 months pregnant

hard time breathing

non-stop period for 1.5 months

pain pain pain pain PAIN

and my G.I. doc said I'm showing signs of malnourishment (I can barely stay awake - guess that explains that)

[Guest guest]

Candace,

Have you tried going on a juice fast for 3 days to a week????

Suzi

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From: Candace P <candaceandbrock@...>Subject: Re: Been busy making myself sick........health Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 7:15 PM

I'm not sure how they test for Crohns disease. I've had all kinds of tests and scans.

Isn't that more of a diarhea type ailment? I'm chronically constipated.

Candace

[Guest guest]

No he never mentioned it. The tests you mentioned - I surprisingly haven't had done to me! I'll ask him about it at my follow up.

Candace

My symptoms:

horrible pain and pressure under my ribs

a "blockage" on the right side found in an xray -poop just chillin takin in the scenery

pre-ulcerous sores all over in my stomach and duodenum(sp? )

reflux

tasting blood in my mouth

black diarhea

RED bloody diarhea (really heavy for 2 days after the ultrasound)

gut swells so much at night I look 6 months pregnant

hard time breathing

non-stop period for 1.5 months

pain pain pain pain PAIN

and my G.I. doc said I'm showing signs of malnourishment (I can barely stay awake - guess that explains that)

[Guest guest]

I'm waaaaay behind on my emails, but here's a site I like: http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/

I have their book and have loaned it out many times. The people who followed the directions are people who still have all their organs.

Shari