Liver cleanse

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This is GREAT thanks Barb!!!On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:21 AM, bdcarr@... <bdcarr@...> wrote:

I'm not sure if the attached PDF will come through on

this list. If not, email me off the list and I'll

send you the pdf with instructions on the cleanse.

You can alter it a bit to fit your needs - like, a

lot of people don't want to do the enemas - you don't

have to, but they can help if things are moving out

like they should. You shouldn't drink the apple juice

during the prep phase (feeds candida too much). You

don't have to use heavy whipping cream on the salad,

but I must say that this portion of the procedure was

what made the whole thing tolerable for me!!!

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I've got it-thanks!

Maureen

> I'm not sure if the attached PDF will come through on

> this list. If not, email me off the list and I'll

> send you the pdf with instructions on the cleanse.

> You can alter it a bit to fit your needs - like, a

> lot of people don't want to do the enemas - you don't

> have to, but they can help if things are moving out

> like they should. You shouldn't drink the apple juice

> during the prep phase (feeds candida too much). You

> don't have to use heavy whipping cream on the salad,

> but I must say that this portion of the procedure was

> what made the whole thing tolerable for me!!!

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Did you post preciously about your cleanse? If so i missed it.

Wondering what one you did and why it was deadly. Also if these are

not real ways to cleanse, then what are? I jsut bought some Herb Pharm

tinctures that help cleanse/detox liver and gallbladder. Point was not

for stones anyways,but to detox them. Just wondering though now if it

is the same herbs etc..

-- In , " ChrissieGirl "

<bunnyearsfamily@...> wrote:

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> After doing my deadly cleanse back in Dec, I received this from a

friend.

> She is a Biologist and has access to some incredibly hard to find

[Guest guest]

I forogt you posted his link. He has otheri nfo on there. Looks like

herbs etc... that may help.

Also if these are

> not real ways to cleanse, then what are?

[Guest guest]

I have to disagree with most of what this link says.

I've known several people who were in the hospital

with confirmed gallstones (by ultrasound) who left

the hospital, did the flush, went back and the

gallstones were gone. I had one friend who's doctor

put her in the hospital in order to do the flush

because she was very ill. He wanted to monitor her

through the flush - and did and it successfully got

her gallstone out as well as decongested her liver.

When I've done the flush, it was very uncomfortable

and I could always tell when the stones were passing

(except the time I took the bile duct homeopathic - I

didn't have pain or discomfort with that one). Also,

a stone passing on its own will hurt very bad. If you

do the cleanse correctly (soften the stones, relax

the bile duct), it will not hurt bad, but you will

feel it and you may have discomfort.

I do think that there can be some other things that

come out that are not gallstones but which people

think are gallstones. I don't think it is true that

everyone is loaded up with gallstones (like what

Hulda would have you think) and that what some

people are getting out, are not stones. The things

that came out of me were definately stones and were

not sphere's but more like what was described in the

link. They also weren't yellow - some were green or

almost black and some, very small ones, were white.

And, I didn't use epsom salts - so his description of

what is really happening to form sphere doesn't apply.

I wouldn't let this dissuade you from doing a cleanse

if you know you have stones, but, I also don't think

everyone should do it. When you have stones, it is

not a pleasant experience, for sure! I think for most

people, a sensible, gentle approach to liver

congestion is what is warranted.

Barb

After doing my deadly cleanse back in Dec, I

received this from a friend.

She is a Biologist and has access to some incredibly

hard to find and hard

to read information. I trust her research and her

opinion very much. I hope

this helps in someone's choice for a

liver/gallbladder cleanse. Chrissie

I got this off of an great alternative medical site.

It has some interesting

information about gall stone flushes.

http://www.pathguy.com/altermed.htm#gallstone

" People who have gallstones, or think they have

gallstones, are invited to

" flush " them out by swallowing a concoction of 1/2

cup of olive oil, a big

grapefruit, 4 tablespoons of Epsom salts, and three

cups of water.

It was a nice idea, and interesting things will

appear in the toilet bowl

soon after. But I'm afraid that they're not your

gallstones. Here's why:

* Real gallstones are faceted polyhedra, like the

ones in the picture

on the links below, or else shaped like mulberries.

What you'll get from the

recipe are spheres. One of my correspondents

describes a friend who saved

the spheres and displayed them to his friends.

* Real gallstones hurt bad when they pass through the

cystic and

common bile ducts.

* Real gallstones sink in water. (As an autopsy

pathologist, I'm very

familiar with this.) The " gallstones " you'll produce

from this recipe will

float, as the " alternative thinkers " themselves point

out. (They claim that

real gallstones float, too. Liars.)

If you know a little basic chemistry, you'll realize

what is happening. The

Epsom salts are magnesium sulfate, and the grapefruit

contains some complex

carbohydrates. When these slosh around in the stomach

and small intestine,

they'll form a tough film that will encase drops of

olive oil. This will

produce some yellowish balls that will float in the

toilet.

Hulda Regehr , the author of " The Cure for all

Cancers " and " The Cure

For HIV/AIDS " promotes this. Since she claims to have

both a doctorate in

naturopathy and a Ph.D. in something (the latter

implying having done

substantial original lab research), one would think

she would have made an

experiment with a real gallstone and discovered that

it sinks. There's a

nice photo, which she stole from my friend,

pathologist Ed Klatt MD. She

calls them " such small stones " though they're

obviously 7-10 mm across. She

thinks the stones she displayed formed in the liver

and " rolled " into the

gallbladder, which is silly. You see many more stones

in the gallbladder

because that's where bile is concentrated and stored;

if they all " rolled "

there from the liver, we'd see much more biliary

colic. She says gallstones

" can be of any color " , which is a hoot. She also

claims that the major cause

of gallstones is wearing shoes.

If you want to believe these people, that is your

business. If you try the

purge, please chew your grapefruit up thoroughly.

Otherwise, you're asking

for a gastic bezoar and a trip to the endoscopist to

remove the obstruction.

Gallstone cleansing: The premiere site is now down.

Gallstone <

http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/gallstones_flush.html>

Flush from Hulda Regehr . Much of the material

on these sites is

identical though it's not clear who has borrowed from

who.

Follow-up: April 2003. My notes on the gallstone

flush have generated

considerable " controversy " . I look forward to a real

surgeon taking these

people on a visit to the surgical ward to see whether

it's really true that

99% of people who pass a gallstone have no pain, or

whether most gallstones

sink or float in water. (The impurities make them

heavy. They sink. If you

have any doubts about who is massively ignorant, go

ask any general surgeon

or pathologist.) There are also photos, some of which

appear to be real

smooth faceted gallstones, and others showing shaggy

surfaces that are

obviously not gallstones. Instead of continuing to

sling mud at me, these

people should take somebody with

ultrasonographically-proven gallstones,

administer the " flush " , and repeat the ultrasonogram.

If there are now no

gallstones, publish the finding in a non-refereed

junk journal. The fact

that nobody's done this invites the obvious

conclusion. If you are presented

with the physical results of a " gallstone flush " , cut

it in half. Real

gallstones have concentric layers of colors often

varying from pale yellow

through black, sometimes with a center of radiating

crystals.

The world is full of crooks. It's your money.

If you decide to take these people to court, I would

welcome the opportunity

to testify on your behalf as a courtesy. I'll bring

some gallstones and show

the court what happens when you put them in water.

Follow-up: August 2007. My cyberfriend

Curyer, who tells me she's

not at all hostile to alternative health claims,

decided to try the

gallstone flush, complete with Chinese herbs. She

also decided to take my

challenge and get an ultrasound before an after a

gallstone flush. " To say I

was disappointed is vastly understating the case.

There appeared to be more

stones (my surgeon concurred). On top of that, I

immediately felt worse... I

have had pain and nausea on a daily basis since the

last flush. Previously,

these episodes had been uncomfortable but

infrequent. " Of course, to date no

one has written me about a gallstone flush shown to

have worked by real

imaging. The mud-slinging on the message boards has

also stopped. Thanks. "

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Hi Team!

I want to start using milk thistle to support my liver. Is drinking it as a tea

sufficient for general support? Or is there something stronger I should consider

like a tincture made from the herb?

Do any of you use milk thistle to keep your liver healthy? All advice is

welcome! Happy Summer Everyone.

Peace on earth.

Cheryl

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I take milk thistle as a gelcap supplement every day. I get mine from

Vitamin World.

Sharyn

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Do any of you use milk thistle to keep your liver healthy? All advice is

welcome! Happy Summer Everyone.

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Hey Cheryl,

I still take Milk Thistle for my liver. I capsule my own and take a couple in the morning, a couple around noon-ish, and at least one at night.

When I first had my liver problems, I mega-dosed on it, at least doubling it, for several months. I also used a liver bolstering tea that is in the Files Section of the group's home site. Here's a quick run-down of the recipe.......

The Liver Tea recipe is as follows5 parts Burdock root5 parts Dandelion root3 parts Oregon Grape root2 parts Licorice root2 parts Orange peel2 parts Ginger root2 parts Milk ThistleIt can be used as a tea, or capsules. I have done both with equal success. Whichever method I use, I always pulverize it first in a coffee grinder to completely mix the ingredients. The capsules are easier on the palate, however. This stuff tastes awful!!!Hope this helps.

Peace, love, laughter

Hi Team!I want to start using milk thistle to support my liver. Is drinking it as a tea sufficient for general support? Or is there something stronger I should consider like a tincture made from the herb?Do any of you use milk thistle to keep your liver healthy? All advice is welcome! Happy Summer Everyone.Peace on earth.Cheryl

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I sent some of this to a friend who had necrotic spots on her liver. It cleared them up. Yeah!!

Gayla

Bob and Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, CA

Re: Liver cleanse

Hey Cheryl,

I still take Milk Thistle for my liver. I capsule my own and take a couple in the morning, a couple around noon-ish, and at least one at night.

When I first had my liver problems, I mega-dosed on it, at least doubling it, for several months. I also used a liver bolstering tea that is in the Files Section of the group's home site. Here's a quick run-down of the recipe.......

The Liver Tea recipe is as follows5 parts Burdock root5 parts Dandelion root3 parts Oregon Grape root2 parts Licorice root2 parts Orange peel2 parts Ginger root2 parts Milk ThistleIt can be used as a tea, or capsules. I have done both with equal success. Whichever method I use, I always pulverize it first in a coffee grinder to completely mix the ingredients. The capsules are easier on the palate, however. This stuff tastes awful!!!Hope this helps.

Peace, love, laughter

Hi Team!I want to start using milk thistle to support my liver. Is drinking it as a tea sufficient for general support? Or is there something stronger I should consider like a tincture made from the herb?Do any of you use milk thistle to keep your liver healthy? All advice is welcome! Happy Summer Everyone.Peace on earth.Cheryl

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Hi, I've done several liver cleanses with the epsom salts. I've done enough that

I don't use the epsom salts any more and do a quick " mini-cleanse " similar to

this <a

href= " http://gallbladderhelp.com/2010/06/si-month-mini-gallstone-flush/ " >gallbla\

dder and liver cleanse</a>. For your first two or three times, I suggest using

the epsom salts to relax the muscles inside your body. It will also help " clean

you out " so that you can better see the gallstones at the end of the flush which

is extremely rewarding. The Hulda flushes really do work! I must add,

though, that the epsom salts taste terrible and to me, that was the worst part

of the flush. Good luck and keep us posted on how everything goes!

www.gallbladderhelp.com

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> Im new to cleansing. Has anyone done the liver clease with epson salt from the

Hulda book? or done her Kidney cleanse? On the box of Epson salt it says

for internal use only so Im worried about taking it internally. Also has anyone

had any positive results from these cleanses? Thank you

>

[Guest guest]

My DH and I have both done over 25 liver cleanses each, too many parasite

cleanses to count, and DH has done 2 kidney cleanses.

Together with the zapper, these cleanses have restored us to fantastic health.

The LCs have lowered our blood pressure and improved our digestion

significantly.

The zapper keeps us from ever getting any cold or flu again.

The kidney cleanses have dissolved DH's kidney stones.

The parasite cleanses have removed many different ailments from both of us.

I use Epsom salt which is heavy metal free.

Good luck,

Yael

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> Im new to cleansing. Has anyone done the liver clease with epson salt from the

Hulda book? or done her Kidney cleanse? On the box of Epson salt it says

for internal use only so Im worried about taking it internally. Also has anyone

had any positive results from these cleanses? Thank you

>