vitamin C

[Guest guest]

Here's Klenner's paper in which he describes the use of vitamin C in

pregnancy and the effects. These are just excerpts, the whole (long)

article is fascinating and Klenner is a good writer.

***I have heard that high doses of vitamin C in the first trimester

can cause miscarriage, so I'd start at the 4th month to be safe!

From http://www.orthomed.com/klenner.htm

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Journal of Applied Nutrition Vol. 23, No's 3 & 4, Winter 1971

Observations On the Dose and Administration of Ascorbic Acid When

Employed Beyond the Range Of A Vitamin In Human Pathology

Frederick R. Klenner, M.D., F.C.C.P.

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Comment by RFC: This paper repeatedly refers to intravenous ascorbic

acid. My personal experience, my talking with Klenner, and with his

wife, Annie Klenner, who served as his nurse, would indicate that he

means sodium ascorbate.

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Ancient History and Homespun Vitamin C Therapies

Folklore of past civilizations report that for every disease

afflicting man there is an herb or its equivalent that will effect a

cure. In Puerto Rico the story has long been told " that to have the

health tree Acerola in one's back yard would keep colds out of the

front door. " [1] The ascorbic acid content of this cherry-like fruit

is thirty times that found in oranges. In Pennsylvania, U.S.A., it

was, and for many still is, Boneset, scientifically called Eupatorium

perfoliatum[2]. Although it is now rarely prescribed by physicians,

Boneset was the most commonly used medicinal plant of eastern United

States. Most farmsteads had a bundle of dried Boneset in the attic or

woodshed from which a most bitter tea would be meted out to the

unfortunate victim of a cold or fever. Having lived in that section

of the country we qualified many times for this particular drink. The

Flu of 1918 stands out very forcefully in that the Klenners survived

when scores about us were dying. Although bitter it was curative and

most of the time the cure was overnight. Several years ago my

curiosity led me to assay this " herbal medicine " and to my surprise

and delight I found that we had been taking from ten to thirty grams

of natural vitamin C at one time. Even then it was given by body

weight. Children one cupful; adults two to three cupfuls. Cups those

days held eight ounces. Twentieth century man seemingly forgets that

his ancestors made crude. drugs from various plants and roots, and

that these decoctions, infusions, juices, powders, pills and

ointments served his purpose. Elegant pharmacy has only made the

forms and shapes more acceptable.

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Primary and lasting benefits in pregnancy.

Observations made on over 300 consecutive obstetrical cases using

supplemental ascorbic acid, by mouth, convinced me that failure to

use this agent in sufficient amounts in pregnancy borders on

malpractice. The lowest amount of ascorbic acid used was 4 grams and

the highest amount 15 grams each day. (Remember the rat-no stress

manufactures equivalent " C " up to 4 grams and with stress up to 15.2

grams). Requirements were roughly 4 grams first trimester, 6 grams

second trimester and 10 grams third trimester. Approximately 20

percent required 15 grams, each day, during last trimester. Eighty

percent of this series received a booster injection of 10 grams,

intravenously, on admission to the hospital. Hemoglobin levels were

much easier to maintain. Leg cramps were less than three percent and

always was associated with " getting out " of Vitamin C tablets. Striae

gravidarum was seldom encountered and when it was present there

existed an associated problem of too much eating and too little

walking. The capacity of the skin to resist the pressure of an

expanding uterus will also vary in different individuals. Labor was

shorter and less painful. There were no postpartum hemorrhages. The

perineum was found to be remarkably elastic and episiotomy was

performed electively. Healing was always by first intention and even

after 15 and 20 years following the last child the firmness of the

perineum is found to be similar to that of a primigravida in those

who have continued their daily supplemental vitamin C. No patient

required catheterization. No toxic manifestations were demonstrated

in this series. There was no cardiac stress even though 22 patients

of the series had rheumatic hearts. One patient in particular was

carried through two pregnancies without complications. She had been

warned by her previous obstetrician that a second pregnancy would

terminate with a maternal death. She received no ascorbic acid with

her first pregnancy. This lady has been back teaching school for the

past 10 years. She still takes 10 grams of ascorbic acid daily.

Infants born under massive ascorbic acid therapy were all robust. Not

a single case required resuscitation. We experienced no feeding

problems. The Fultz quadruplets were in this series. They took milk

nourishment on the second day. These babies were started on 50 mg

ascorbic acid the first day and, of course, this was increased as

time went on. Our only nursery equipment was one hospital bed, an

old, used single unit hot plate and an equally old 10 quart kettle.

Humidity and ascorbic acid tells this story. They are the only

quadruplets that have survived in southeastern United States. Another

case of which I am justly proud is one in which we delivered 10

children to one couple. All are healthy and good looking. There were

no miscarriages. All are living and well. They are frequently

referred to as the vitamin C kids, in fact all of the babies from

this series were called " Vitamin C Babies " by the nursing personnel--

they were distinctly different.

--- In , " " <amanda@...>

wrote:

>

> What is the " Klenner protocol? " I want to have that kind of

pregnancy and

> birth-sounds like it was wonderful!

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> amanda

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> >followed the Klenner protocol for my second pregnancy (along with

a strict

> NT diet) and

> had a fast and easy delivery and not a single stretch mark.

(Beautiful,

> round-headed baby,

> btw, thanks to CLO, liver, and raw milk.)

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[Guest guest]

--- Renate, <haecklers@...> wrote:

> Here's Klenner's paper in which he describes the use of vitamin C in

> pregnancy and the effects.

> http://www.orthomed.com/klenner.htm

> Journal of Applied Nutrition Vol. 23, No's 3 & 4, Winter 1971

> Observations On the Dose and Administration of Ascorbic Acid When

> Employed Beyond the Range Of A Vitamin In Human Pathology

> Frederick R. Klenner, M.D., F.C.C.P.

Renate,

The thing that bothers me about this kind of article is that the

author seems to treat vitamin C as if it is a panacea, or cure-all,

while seemingly ignoring the needs and effects of other nutrients on

health. This is not a very holistic approach. It seems like a lot of

researchers seem to think that what they are researching is more

important that anything else

I checked to see what the Linus ing Institute had to say about

vitamin C:

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/

" The Linus ing Institute recommends a vitamin C intake of at least

400 mg daily - the amount that has been found to fully saturate plasma

and circulating cells with vitamin C in young, healthy nonsmokers.

Consuming at least five servings (2 1/2 cups) of fruits and vegetables

daily may provide about 200 mg of vitamin C. "

They don't explain what happens to additional vitamin C when plasma

and circulating cells are saturated, but I assume that it is excreted.

If this is true, then getting more than 400 mg per day would be a

waste of money for " young healthy nonsmokers " .

They also have a summary of research on vitamin C and the common cold:

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/ss06/cold.html

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The debate about the value of vitamin C in preventing and treating the

common cold has raged for over three decades following the publication

in 1970 of Vitamin C and the Common Cold by Linus ing. After

ing was alerted by Irwin Stone in 1965 to the possible value of

high-dose vitamin C in preventing colds, he and his wife began to

routinely take several grams per day. ing had been troubled for

many years by severe colds that interfered with his work, and he was

pleased to find that the vitamin C supplements greatly decreased the

number of colds he caught. He reviewed the clinical literature, then

consisting of about four double-blind, placebo-controlled trials that

used at least 100 mg of vitamin C per day, and published his book,

expecting that the news that a safe and cheap substance could provide

a simple way of preventing and ameliorating colds would be embraced by

the medical community and the public. The medical community was

generally skeptical or disdainful, but the public responded. Interest

in the use of vitamin C for colds expanded, and 21 clinical studies

using at least one gram of vitamin C per day were published between

1971 and 1994. These studies were reviewed by Dr. Harri Hemila in

1994. He found that vitamin C supplements reduced the duration of

colds by about 23% and ameliorated symptoms, although there was no

consistent effect on incidence.

In 2004, Dr. Hemila and colleagues again reviewed the relevant studies

for The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews. To study the

prevention of colds by vitamin C, they pooled and analyzed the results

of 29 trials involving more than 11,000 subjects. With the exception

of six trials with over 600 runners, skiers, or soldiers, no

preventive effect was found for vitamin C. In those six subgroups, the

incidence of colds was halved. Thirty studies were examined that

addressed the effect of vitamin C on the duration of colds. In these

studies, there was a consistent benefit, with a reduction in duration

of 8% to 14%. Fifteen trials assessed the effect of vitamin C on

symptoms, which were significantly ameliorated by vitamin C.

A Japanese study on vitamin C and colds was published in 2006 in the

European Journal of Clinical Nutrition. This study was a five-year,

randomized, double-blind (but not placebo-controlled) trial designed

to evaluate the effect of a daily dose of 50 mg or 500 mg of vitamin C

on the development of gastric cancer among 244 subjects. (The 50-mg

dose of vitamin C served as a quasi-placebo.) The researchers

evaluated the effects of the vitamin C supplements on the common cold

at the completion of the study. The risk of contracting three or more

colds in the five-year period was decreased by 66% by the daily intake

of the 500-mg vitamin C supplement. There was little difference in

severity or duration of colds between subjects in the low-dose or

high-dose groups. This study deserves special mention because it was

much longer (five years) than the trials reported by Hemila and

covered many cold seasons in which subjects were probably exposed

repeatedly to many cold viruses.

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I used to take a 500 mg vitamin C tablet every day for years,

increasing to two per day during cold season, and never noticed any

change in frequency or duration of colds - so I quit. I saw no change

when I quit either.

I used to get two to three colds every winter and each cold would last

about one to two weeks. This last winter I only had one very brief

cold and it only lasted about four days. This was the first winter

that I supplemented with high vitamin CLO and I suspect that made the

difference for me, most likely from the extra vitamins A and D.

However, even daily CLO couldn't save me from over-dosing on sugar in

late April. After my daughter's soccer game I made the mistake of

taking her and a friend to Dairy Queen for a treat to celebrate their

victory. I ordered a blizzard, which I thought by itself shouldn't be

too bad. However, my wife ordered a chocolate sundae, but when it was

placed on the counter, my daughter's friend thought it was hers and

took a bite out of the top of it. My wife wouldn't touch it and

ordered another one. I hated to see that bitten sundae go to waste,

so I ate it too. And then my daughter didn't eat much of her sundae,

so once again, not wanting to be wasteful, I finished most of it.

Needless to say, I didn't feel very well for hours afterward. I went

to the Dairy Queen web site to see how bad I had been. I estimated

that I had ingested about 150 grams of sugar, including lots of corn

syrup. This much sugar is a major suppressor of the immune system.

And sure enough, just two or three days later I started getting cold

symptoms and ended up getting a bad cold that lasted about two weeks.

Seems like I always learn my lessons the hard way

OK, I can hear it now ... I should have megadosed on vitamin C at the

start of symptoms

[Guest guest]

,

> The thing that bothers me about this kind of article is that the

> author seems to treat vitamin C as if it is a panacea, or cure-all,

> while seemingly ignoring the needs and effects of other nutrients on

> health. This is not a very holistic approach. It seems like a lot of

> researchers seem to think that what they are researching is more

> important that anything else

Yes, it bothers me too. I think in the case of vitamin C, the

substance likely does have far greater benefits and uses than

generally accepted, but that makes it easy to get excited and

overstate the case. I think all of Klenner's clinical case studies are

promising but we need controlled double-blind experiments to verify

the preliminary findings.

The Linus ing Institute's recommendations do not represent

ing's own recommendations. He never recommended a dose as low as

400mg per day to my knowledge. The thing about blood saturation and C

is that under stresses including viruses, the body uses up its limited

stores very quickly. I think I read that 5g is about the limit of body

storage. That can be used up in no time. So while in a healthy

unstressed individual, 400mg/day may be just the right amount to keep

their ascorbate levels at max (and that number is going to vary among

different people due to biochemical individuality), as soon as there

is a stressor introduced the levels will plummet. So for this reason,

I think that taking 5 or 10g a day is not a waste, even if most of the

time most of it is passing right through you. It's insurance.

I love ice cream. But happily, even the fattiest vanilla with low

sugar compared to most flavors tastes too sweet to me these days. So I

stick to my unsweetened raw cream over frozen fruit. Dairy Queen's

sundaes are extremely sweet. 150g of sugar will definitely hurt your

immunity for a few hours. Didn't someone just say that glucose in the

blood competes with vitamin C for utilization, or something along

those lines? This is very interesting.

Tom

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I don't really get the Linus ing Institute, but they don't

really seem to be very good advocates for Linus ing's work. It

would be like a Weston A. Price group saying that diet really doesn't

make much difference in whether or not kids get cavities. Somewhere

along the line they really missed the point! Tho really I think

Klenner did more work on vitamin C than ing. I don't think he has

an institute to remember his work.

Once again the research they cited really used very little vitamin C

and then said the results weren't satisfactory. Most of what I've read

indicated ing took around 10 grams of it a day, not 500 mg. That's

too much for me, I take 5 grams or less a day when I'm not fighting off

a cold. Unfortunately for me I live in the Northeast, where pollution

has pushed the rates of colds obscenely high due to the constant

irritation of the respiratory system. Not getting colds all winter

with little breaks of feeling ok is very, very nice!

> I checked to see what the Linus ing Institute had to say about

> vitamin C:

> http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/

[Guest guest]

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> They don't explain what happens to additional vitamin C when plasma

> and circulating cells are saturated, but I assume that it is excreted.

> If this is true, then getting more than 400 mg per day would be a

> waste of money for " young healthy nonsmokers " .

(Still catching up a bit...)

Given that certain tissues in food animals have high concentrations

of vitamin C, and given that certain tissues have higher requirements

of vitamin C than others, the assumption that all intake beyond the

level required to saturate plasma is merely excreted seems unwarranted.

-

[Guest guest]

--- wrote:

> > They don't explain what happens to additional vitamin C when

> > plasma and circulating cells are saturated, but I assume that it

> > is excreted. If this is true, then getting more than 400 mg per

> > day would be a waste of money for " young healthy nonsmokers " .

>

--- Idol <Idol@...> wrote:

> Given that certain tissues in food animals have high concentrations

> of vitamin C, and given that certain tissues have higher

> requirements of vitamin C than others, the assumption that all

> intake beyond the level required to saturate plasma is merely

> excreted seems unwarranted.

, that's a good point. However, what about oxalate formation from

vitamin C? This may not lead to kidney stones, but high vitamin C

intake may lead to more oxalate production according to this article:

" VITAMIN C DOES NOT CAUSE KIDNEY STONES "

By Steve Hickey, PhD and , PhD

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v01n07.shtml

" Vitamin C can increase oxalate absorption and, if degraded in the

body, ascorbate can be converted into oxalate. However, while oxalate

is a constituent of some types of kidney stone, an increase in its

concentration does not mean that more or larger kidney stones will be

formed. The formation of kidney stones is influenced by many factors

and, as we have seen, vitamin C might be predicted to inhibit several

aspects of stone generation. "

Perhaps if you take megadoses of vitamin C, you also need to give your

body the extra nutrients it needs to detox the extra oxalates that are

likely to result?

Also, I thought it interesting that Linus ing lived to age 94,

beating Weston Price by about 16 years, but that his death was

attributed to prostate cancer. I never have read what caused Weston

Price's death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_ing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_Price

(we need to beef up the wikipedia info on Weston Price)

Burns made it to 100, outliving Linus ing by 6 years,

though I doubt that he took daily megadoses of vitamin C.

.... Although he did smoke 10 to 15 cigars a day

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_burns

I also doubt that were any paleo populations that were able to achieve

large year-round daily doses of vitamin C. And this is also likely to

be the case with existing populations that have large numbers of

centenarians. So, I don't believe it is necessary and is more than

like a waste of money - although vitamin C is pretty cheap

I can see, however, that megadosing vitamin C may have short-term

benefits for fighting infection and may be warranted for that purpose.

[Guest guest]

Okay so after someone told me I was taking to much vitamin C I lowered the dose

to 4 grams a day then I went down to 2 grams.

In the past 3 weeks I have felt so weak and horrible. I was swelling and didn't

have any energy at all. I had to wear my ankle brace every day. Even just

around the house. I finally figured out what I was doing differently.

I upped my vitamins to 7 grams time release a day. After a week I am finally

back to myself. Swelling is gone and I am on day two without a brace. Soooo for

me 7 grams is my lucky number.

[Guest guest]

,

I agree fully. Every now again I will stop taking it all together as I just get

busy and will forget to take with breakfast and I will not take them without

food. Anyways, it takes my body about a week to tell my brain to start taking

them again. It's like falling off of something and hurting yourself in about a

week of stopping. Does not take long to get back on the horse again. I take

between 6-7 grams of Vit C. Usually in 2 does of 3-3.5 grams. I take 3 grams

time release and then will have one of daughter's chewables when I give one to

her. They are the .5 grams ones.

I fell so much better and alive when I am on Vit C. It makes such a huge

difference to me. Especially in the energy area and being able to feel stuff.

I can even feel my toes when I have been taking it long enough.

Have a wonderful day everyone and enjoy the last week of August. Back to school

in a week, so back to the grind of getting the kids off to school.

[Guest guest]

,

You described just how I feel!!! No one can tell me that I am taking too much

again. I learned my lesson big time.

[Guest guest]

http://www.c-m-t.cz/index.php?u1=6 & sekce=27 & clanek=25

CMT treatment

Report from 136. Conference of European neuromuscular association 8. -

10. April 2005, Naarden, the Netherlands.

Topic: Treatment of most often hereditary neuropathy CMT 1A by ascorb

acid (vitamin C).

The meeting of world experts for CMT illness from Europe, USA and

Canada took part in dutch Naarden. The experts met with the aim to

create an united record of CMT patients for testing some interesting

treatment molecules. The reason for the meeting was a new revelation

obtained on experimental models (CMT mouses), which show a very good

effect on animal´s mobility while longer time lasting serving of

ascorb acid (vitamin C). Experiment concerned only most often form of

CMT which is caused by duplication of gene for PMP 22.

4 parts of the conference:

1. important experimental works

2. clinical symptoms of the illness and its right evaluation

3. electrophysiological testing of CMT patients

4. creating of united record

Experts who informed about the results of watching the influence of

ascorb acid performed first. Prof. Michel Fontes from Marseille

explained experiment on CMT 1A mouses in details. Two groups of

mouses were watched (with and without ascorb acid) for 90 days. A

much better mobility and muscle strenght were seen in the group CMT

1A mouses to which ascorb acid was served. Application of acid was

started by 4 week old mouses and different results between both

groups were statistically important. Moleculary biological aspects of

ascorb acid influence on peripheral nerve were discussed (Dr. Nave,

Gottingen, Germany) and influence of ascorb acid on human organism

(Dr. Visioli, Milano, Italy).

Formation of renal stones and diarrhoea were pointed out as a

possible undesirable effect of ascorb acid. Surprisingly, optimal

dose of ascorb acid for human organism isn´t known, but it is not

recommended to use more than 3g daily. Prof. (Detroit, USA),

who concerned in natural development of CMT illness (progress of

weakness and insensitiveness of limbs during life) performed a very

interesting record. Till this time used scales for nerve´s damage are

not mostly reliable and sensitive enough.

He recommended to use scale for CMT neuropathy (CMTNS) which they

have very good experiences with and they issued an article on this

topic in american Neurology in April 2005. Dr. Berciano (Sentander,

Spain) who concerned in development of foot deformation by CMT 1A by

children, also took part. He presented results of magnetical

resonance of foot muscles and EMG investigation. He pointed out

dependence of foot deformation on the lenght of nerve fibres and as a

reason of rise of foot deformation he marked frequent atrophy of foot

muscles not shin muscles.

Electrophysiological investigation by CMT illness was a matter of

discussion of all presented electrophysiologists. Our recommendation

of evaluation of nerves only by non dominant upper limb (Dr. Mazanec)

was finally accepted. Interval for investigation was set for half a

year.

Afterwards the main organizers of conference (prof. and Dr.

Reilly from London, prof. Pareyson from Milan) came out with the

basic idea of international project CMT 1A patients by ascorb acid

use. According to their suggestion the project should last three

years. Watching should be separated for adult and children CMT

patients. Dose of ascorb acid should be maximally 3g daily. As a main

aim of watching was set a change of CMTNS score by 1 point (prof.

recommended), improvement muscle strenght by dorsal foot flexis

(prof. Pareyson) and improvement of electrophysiological parametres

(Dr. Young and prof. De Visser).

All participants introduced their national CMT records. For now the

first are colleguages from France (Dr. Dubourh from Salpetriére in

Paris) whose record is finnished already and they start to treat

patients from May 2005. Their record differes in many aspects from

records of other countries. The Netherlands and Germany are going to

concentrate on children CMT patients only. Italy supposes to watch

app. 200 and USA app. 360 adult patients. I introduced my idea of

project for adult patients (app. 80 people) and children patients

(app. 20 children) for Czech Republic. Patients will be watched for 3

years in 3-5 centres in Czech Republic. The main aim is to improve

score of CMTNS scale by 1 point, improvement of strenght of isometric

contraction by dorsal foot flexis and improvement of SNAP and CMAP n.

ulnaris.

Surprisingly, financing of the records is a matter of each country.

There´s no common EU grant. Particular national records are self-

contained and they should only by united in the basic results in

order to the final results from different countries could be compared.

The conference was finnished by a discussion of common basic results

of records. National records will differ in many details and it´s

neccessary to specify next development of the studies through e-mail

correspondence. Conference Peripheral Nerve Society (PNS) in Italy in

July this year was set as a next possibility for consultation. What

does it mean for us?

The basic fact is that no one forces us to participate on the

international project of treatment CMT 1A by ascorb acid (vitamin C).

It depends on us how our record will correspondent with other

national records. Also it´s only on us how we will ensure finances

for this study.

After a meeting in hospital Motol in April 2005 it seems to be real:

1. request of 3 year grant IZA MT ÈR in autumn 2005

2. partnership of a sponsor (pharmaceutical company?)

3. cooperation with CMT association

4. research plans of FN Motol

This article in bulletin is the first step to inform you, all members

of CMT association about this project. We would like to send a

personal letter to you, whom this project concern. This letter would

explain all details of project and would request you to explain your

possible interest in this project. Also, we would contact by phone or

a letter doctors who would be interested in cooperation with us. I

hope, together we will find a way how to realize this study because

non-participation in this study would be a step back and it would

mean a loss of international prestige, which we all have been hardly

gaining during last 5 years.

autor: As. MUDr. Mazanec Radim, Ph.D.

vydáno: 20. 11. 2005

[Guest guest]

Debbie and Jen,

I agree about the megadoses of Vit. C. It seems to alleviate pain for me too.

Coinsidence? Not sure.

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Vitamin C has improved my circulation so much. I think a majority of my pain was

from swelling.

[Guest guest]

,

I appreciate you post! I looked up the ascorbic acid study thru your post and am

interested in it. I have only ever had the nerve conduction study to diagnose

(20 years ago at age 18). I just called the local MDA, who I am supposed to

visit for the first time since moving here (I have a Dr's appt in July). They

said unless the Dr orders genetic testing, I just have to stick with my nerve

conduction test because " Genetic testing is very expensive " they said.

But, the study only wants people with either the genetic testing (nerve

conduction is not enough) or a first relative with confirmed genetic testing. I

have neither of those things.

So, anyone out there know how to get it if I don't get it through the MDA?

(which it sounds like I might not).I'D APPRECIATE ANYONE'S INFORMATION ON THIS.

Thanks!

Dawn in NC

[Guest guest]

I am in the study. The doctor affiliated with the study gave the order for the

testing. Actually, for a variety of reasons, my uncle did the test and the

nurse coordinated with him.

You can find out more about the study at the CMTA website, www.cmta.org.

If you have other questions about the study, please let me know.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Sue,

That is a great update on Vitamin C. I know it helps me stay warm in the

winter.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I will second this one. The Vit C has helpped in many ways and warm feet

in the winter, is one of them. It sure is nice not being so cold anymore.

Re: Vitamin C

Sue,

That is a great update on Vitamin C. I know it helps me stay warm in the

winter.

[Guest guest]

Matt,

What kind and how much do you take?

Geri

[Guest guest]

Geri,

I take the Costco Kirkland brand of Time release. 3 grams twice a day. I also

take 400 UI's Of Vit E twice a day as well. The Vit E is supposed to help the

absorption of the C.

Matt

[Guest guest]

Hello Pedro,

Yes, I have been following the research developments about Ascorbic

Acid for about 5 years now. There is alot of information in our Files

and Archives, and many in our network are taking it. Soon we will hear

about more of the trial results.

Gretchen

[Guest guest]

One doesn't need to be in the study to take Vitamin C.  And, if you aren't in

the study, then you know for sure you are not taking the placebo.

Study participants take 4 500 mg capsules twice a day, for a total of 4000 mg.

Donna

 

[Guest guest]

Questions to anyone:

Does anyone get upset stomachs from taking so much vitamin C?

I certainly do.

Also does the body not get rid of any excess vit C?

Take care.

[Guest guest]

I don't get stomach issues from the vitamin C. I take 2,000 - 2,500mgs in the am

and pm (4,000 - 5,000 per day). Trader Joe's sells a vitamin C powder that mixes

great with water or juice and it very easy to use. I also carry their vitamin C

chewables that I slip in my pocket in the am if I don't want to take the powder

with coffee or on an empty stomach or if I am running late.

This would allow you to take smaller doses through out the day and may not cause

an upset stomach. I find this makes it easier for me to not forget to take it

too.

in Las Vegas

[Guest guest]

Greetings ,

While I am not taking " C " , stomach upset is common with it in general.

And yes, the body gets rid of the excess. There is still much we have

yet to learn about " C " and CMT. FYI here's a link for info

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C#Adverse_effects

Hope all is still going well with the great job and that you are warm

and comfy without tons of snow around. When I saw your weather is at

minus 2, I felt like a wimp, dressing in layers of fleece today for a

cold 54F! Maybe you should come out here for a summer vacation now, lol

Gretchen

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I tolerate large amounts of Vitamin C without any problem. The most I have taken

was 10 grams but I don't usually do that , lol.

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This was a while back.

I wanted to thank everyone for their input about my vit C questions

Take care