Food Poisoning

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Hey Peggy,

If you haven't already tried it...I'd suggest activated charcoal capsules.

You can get them at most pharmacies and natural health food stores.

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> > Can anyone suggest an approach to food poisoning. I

> > seem to have eaten some contaminated lamb on Monday

> > night. This is Thursday and I'm still unable to

> > eat. I'm open to any suggestions, as I'm interested

> > in treatment not only for this episode but also for

> > any future problems that might occur. I don't want

> > to find myself in this situation again and not know

> > what to do. I'm not planning to go out and contract

> > food poisoning again, but I didn't plan it this time

> > either, and I'd just like to be prepared.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Ruth. I've been using it but so far without discernible results. I've

also been using my zapper, once again without noticeable results.

My husband had a much milder case of this, he thinks because he takes betaine

hydrochloride tablets with every meal. I take only enzymes. Perhaps someone

would have an opinion on this--does betaine help to sterilize stuff once it's in

the stomach?

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Ruth. I've been using it but so far without discernible results. I've

also been using my zapper, once again without noticeable results.

My husband had a much milder case of this, he thinks because he takes betaine

hydrochloride tablets with every meal. I take only enzymes. Perhaps someone

would have an opinion on this--does betaine help to sterilize stuff once it's in

the stomach?

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Hi Peggy,

A couple of Tbs. of apple cider vinegar in a glass of

water sipped along with a meal can avoid food

poisoning. It might just help a bit after the fact.

bubba

--- Tim and/or Peggy Walters

wrote:

> Can anyone suggest an approach to food poisoning. I

> seem to have eaten some contaminated lamb on Monday

> night. This is Thursday and I'm still unable to

> eat. I'm open to any suggestions, as I'm interested

> in treatment not only for this episode but also for

> any future problems that might occur. I don't want

> to find myself in this situation again and not know

> what to do. I'm not planning to go out and contract

> food poisoning again, but I didn't plan it this time

> either, and I'd just like to be prepared.

>

> Peggy

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Bubba,

I have a bottle of Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar, and there's a recipe on the

bottle that calls for 1 to 2 tsp in 8 ounces of water, taken several times a

day. They don't say what it's for, just general health I imagine. You're

saying 2 tbsp with meals--this would work much the same as the hcl the stomach

should be producing, to sterilize food? Thanks.

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Make it one tbsp. I got carried away.

bubba

--- Tim and/or Peggy Walters

wrote:

> Hi Bubba,

>

> I have a bottle of Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar, and

> there's a recipe on the bottle that calls for 1 to 2

> tsp in 8 ounces of water, taken several times a day.

> They don't say what it's for, just general health I

> imagine. You're saying 2 tbsp with meals--this

> would work much the same as the hcl the stomach

> should be producing, to sterilize food? Thanks.

>

> Peggy

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

The only thing would be charcoal capsules to get rid of any remaining

poison.

Love

Food Poisoning

Hi,

Was recently a victim of food poisoning. Vacationing in Mexico and I

am almost positive that the shrimp I bought at the Fish Market was

contaminated. Vomited all night and couldn't move for 3 days. I

also didn't urinate for about a day. Thank God I am much better but

still feel a little drained from the whole thing. I am taking

probiotics and they have helped a lot. Anything else I should be

doing? I am so careful, buy organic meat, kosher chicken, grass fed

beef, etc. Guess you just can't win sometimes. anything I

should be doing?

Thanks!!!

[Guest guest]

I would just like to comment on kosher chicken. " Kosher " is only about blessing

the food and hopefully the good part is killing animals in a humane way.

Otherwise to my knowledge additives and processing is the same as the worst food

on the market.

Food Poisoning

Hi,

Was recently a victim of food poisoning. Vacationing in Mexico and I

am almost positive that the shrimp I bought at the Fish Market was

contaminated. Vomited all night and couldn't move for 3 days. I

also didn't urinate for about a day. Thank God I am much better but

still feel a little drained from the whole thing. I am taking

probiotics and they have helped a lot. Anything else I should be

doing? I am so careful, buy organic meat, kosher chicken, grass fed

beef, etc. Guess you just can't win sometimes. anything I

should be doing?

Thanks!!!

[Guest guest]

> I feel like I have the dreaded flu but without any respiratory symptoms.

That's because it *is* the latest strain of flu, the one that came too late to be included in this year's flu shots. My dad says lots of people have it down where he lives in Florida, and it's in all our newspapers here in NJ, so I guess it's also down there in Texas, too.

>This is a fun time of year, the weather is> beautiful and I have better things to do than lie in bed.

Well, at least you're getting some exercise running back and forth tot he bathroom (running and ducking!)

I'm hungry but> nothing sounds good. I had some noodles with margarine and salt this> evening which was a nice change from toast.

Don't forget the banana, rice, and applesauce part of the BRAT diet, too. I don't know how much good that margarine did, though. And drink! If you don't like plain old water, see if there's any Gator-aide or other sports drinks around, or even the Pedialyte drinks for kids when they have the runs. Just be sure to stay hydrated. A lot of the elderly around here that have been hospitalized for this flu are in for dehydration, so be careful.

Hope you feel better soon.

Sue in NJ

where Henry came home from an exam yesterday with a fever and swollen glands

[Guest guest]

Ann,

I'm sorry to hear you aren't feeling well! Hopefully you'll be back

to normal in no time!

a

[Guest guest]

For food poisoning - Acidophilus. A dose every couple hours gives you a bunch

of good guys(bacteria) to fight the bad guys. And the Vit C.

All better

Irene de Villiers <furryboots@...> wrote:

Maddviking@... wrote: If you are eating shrimp or oysters and

> one of them tastes slightly funny, spit it out, wash your mouth out, drink 2

> shots of tequila, and wait for the food poisoning buggie to begin.

Forget the last two :-))

Swallow a heaping teaspoon of pure powdered ascorbic acid form of

vitamin C. What you don't have powdered ascorbic acid in the first aid

box yet?

Put it on TODAY's shopping list. Seriously.

This will detox any poison you swallow, and will stop allergic reactions

in their tracks as well.

You repeat the Vit C as needed. In anaphylactic allergic reactions your

body will get a heat flush as the reaction starts up again and you take

more then as often as needed - it will become more spaced out as your

body recovers equilibrium.

I once had to repeat 20 mins apart for a few hours to stop a

yellowjacket reaction (I'm very allergic and can stop breathing within 5

minutes) then three times a day for 2 days.

You can take it in water with sugar to sweeten or plain and swallow with

water while making a face :-)

For salmonella poisoning, the sooner you start and repeat often the less

discomfort you will experience. If you take enough there will be no

vomiting needed even in serious cases of salmonella.

You can use it with pets too for toxins.

For example a 3 month kitten stole a Tegretol epilepsy tablet and was

in the process of dying under a heat lamp and on an IV at the vet clinic

a halfhour later. Owner phoned me incase I had ideas - and the vet

thankfully had IV ascorbic acid (they do not in this country - this was

in South Africa) and he got it into the little kitty as fast as a drip

can allow, and she was fine in 2 hours, and went home as if nothing had

happened. Vet was reluctant to try it but had nothing to lose as the

kitten was dying and he had no other ideas.

There are also homeopathic first aid remedies worth having around for

food poisoning that work as well or better.

For bad meat use Arsenicum album 30C

For bad fish use Carbo vegetabilis 30C

For mushroom poisoning - Natrum muriaticum 30C

For alcohol excess use Nux vomica 30C

Other first aid ideas:

* For electric shock or burn use Phosphorus 30C then dress burns with

urtica urens 30C

* For cat/dog etc bites, snake bite, spider bites, scorpion and

centipede bites, insect stings, including poisonous ones and allergic ones.

Alternate:

Ledum 30C, Hypericum 200C, Lachesis 200C (and also Apis 30C only for hot

swelling as in insect stings, else just the other 3)

How often to alternate depends on severity:

Cat/dog bites start every 15 mins for several doses then every 2 hours,

then twice a day about 3 days. Prevents blood poisoning, helps pain,

prevents infection. Prevents tetanus.

For snake bite alternate every 5 mins till individual feels okay,

best to start with Lachesis then Ledum then hypericum in that rotation -

then 15 min cycles for a few then a few a day for a few days. This can

save you from the most poisonous snakes and spiders etc. A member of my

Catwell list couldn't believe how fast her cat responded after

rattlesnake bite recently.

The trick is to have these remedies on hand however, and the

instructions pasted on the 1st aid cupboard door.

Also - if you dose aqueous that is a lot better. So after the first

dose as it comes in the bottle - make aqueous for the rest of the doses.

If you have time to make aqueous before needing the first dose then do

that at the outset for ANY homeopathic remedy. It will work better.

I attach how to do that.

Some other things you can do with the above remedies for first aid:

* Ledum 30C - Great to fix a black eye, or prevent tetanus in a deep wound.

* Hypericum 200C - Use after a dirty wound to prevent tetanus; also a

great nerve pain remedy. Use in paralysis to help regenerate nerves

(takes ages to regenerate, like a few months but can be done). For pain

after surgery. Use after dentistry for pain. Use for whitlows.

* Lachesis 200C - first one to use in snakebite. Stops internal

bleeding. Helps mother accept new child - eg in animals after c-section.

Hope this is handy somewhere some day :-)

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

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MAKING AN AQUEOUS DOSING BOTTLE:

* Don't touch remedy with fingers.

* Put 1 tablet (or ten grains or three globules or ten drops depending

on the form of remedy you can find - quantity not critical) into a clean

glass container with lid.

* Fill 3/4 full or max of 1 cup using good water (not chlorinated). Use

filtered or spring water or distilled, or if all you have is tap water

let it stand an hour first to dissipate chlorine then add it.

* Get the solid remedy to dissolve.

* Now " succuss " it one hundred times. Succuss means to shake it hard,

stopping against something, like a phone book for example. So basically

you shake hard 100 times against a book. Do not skip this step, it

" potentizes " the remedy - Chemically it clumps the water molecules and

we know this is necessary and that the remedy is weak if this is not done.

* Label the bottle using scotch tape all round it.

* Keep the bottle in the fridge as it has no preservative.

* Usual dose is 0.5 to 1 ml by mouth using a medicine dropper or small

syringe without needle.

* Succuss 20 times between doses. Do not skip this succussion between

doses. It keeps the remedy active.

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

kathy matthews wrote:

> For food poisoning - Acidophilus. A dose every couple hours gives you a

bunch of good guys(bacteria) to fight the bad guys. And the Vit C.

> All better

Dear Kathy,

The idea sounds good fdor food contamination by enteritis bacteria but

not food poisoning as such. It's based on the idea that bacteria are the

direct problem, and that's not correct in " food poisoning " . It can be

correct in some food contamination:

In food " poisoning " the food is poisoned before you eat it. It's not the

bacteria but the toxin they produce, that is the cause of poisoning.

The bacteria grew on the food and made a toxin on the food before it was

eaten. This is so for salmonella, botulism and shigella food poisoning

for example.

In a few cases of bacterial food *contamination* with pathogenic

(sick-making) bacteria - like E-coli contamination - then your idea will

work, as that is not food poisoning but enteritis - an infection where

bacteria are growing and producing toxins inside you as opposed to on

the food before it is eaten.

So for example, if meat or fish has salmonella contamination - the

toxin they produce on the food is what makes you very sick. After you

swallow the toxin it is too late to provide competition for the bacteria

- the toxin is already on the food and in your system.

Salmonella toxin is also heat-stable - so if you cook the food with

salmonella on it - it will kill the salmonella bacteria but it will

*not* remove the toxin and you will still get food poisoning. You can

help by washing the surface of suspected meat, and by washing eggs

before cracking them (Grade AA is washed for you, unlike Grade A), to

wash off the toxin physically.

However Botulism food poisoning is different. The toxin is heat

labile and if you boil it for 5 minutes the toxin is destroyed. But it

takes very little of this toxin to be quite lethal and if you get it on

your fingers before you cook it and lick your fingers etc - that's not good.

So - differet solutions to differnt food contamination issues :-))

I have a habit of washing watermelons before I cut them too.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

Good info. Thanks for the education. Like most things, there are reasons why

something works different in different situations. I hadn't learned that

difference on food poisoning.

Kathy

Irene de Villiers <furryboots@...> wrote:

kathy matthews wrote:

> For food poisoning - Acidophilus. A dose every couple hours gives you a

bunch of good guys(bacteria) to fight the bad guys. And the Vit C.

> All better

Dear Kathy,

The idea sounds good fdor food contamination by enteritis bacteria but

not food poisoning as such. It's based on the idea that bacteria are the

direct problem, and that's not correct in " food poisoning " . It can be

correct in some food contamination:

In food " poisoning " the food is poisoned before you eat it. It's not the

bacteria but the toxin they produce, that is the cause of poisoning.

The bacteria grew on the food and made a toxin on the food before it was

eaten. This is so for salmonella, botulism and shigella food poisoning

for example.

In a few cases of bacterial food *contamination* with pathogenic

(sick-making) bacteria - like E-coli contamination - then your idea will

work, as that is not food poisoning but enteritis - an infection where

bacteria are growing and producing toxins inside you as opposed to on

the food before it is eaten.

So for example, if meat or fish has salmonella contamination - the

toxin they produce on the food is what makes you very sick. After you

swallow the toxin it is too late to provide competition for the bacteria

- the toxin is already on the food and in your system.

Salmonella toxin is also heat-stable - so if you cook the food with

salmonella on it - it will kill the salmonella bacteria but it will

*not* remove the toxin and you will still get food poisoning. You can

help by washing the surface of suspected meat, and by washing eggs

before cracking them (Grade AA is washed for you, unlike Grade A), to

wash off the toxin physically.

However Botulism food poisoning is different. The toxin is heat

labile and if you boil it for 5 minutes the toxin is destroyed. But it

takes very little of this toxin to be quite lethal and if you get it on

your fingers before you cook it and lick your fingers etc - that's not good.

So - differet solutions to differnt food contamination issues :-))

I have a habit of washing watermelons before I cut them too.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

Food Poisoning

by Herbs First We had a family reunion and were the second group to arrive at the beach house that we had rented. My brother and family arrived there first and I saw his whole family, but he was nowhere to be found. I asked his wife where he was and she told me that three days earlier he had eaten at the famous “Golden Arches†restaurant and gotten very sick within 20 minutes of eating his food. For three days he had tried over the counter drugs for nausea and diarrhea but was still feeling terrible. I told her that I thought I had something that would help and went to my handy bag of herbs. I had Slippery Elm which is great for diarrhea, and Ginger which works well for nausea. I gave her the little packets which hold about 25 capsules and said that I would take the Slippery Elm every half hour until I was feeling better and Ginger every 2 - 3 hours. My brother showed his face a few hours later and said that he was feeling much better and was fine the rest of the week long reunion. Food poisoning is most commonly a reaction to toxins produced by bacteria or other toxins. Bacteria thrive in food that is not prepared hygienically, that is kept out of refrigeration for too long, or that is not thoroughly cooked. Symptoms include diarrhea, vomiting, and stomach cramps, and generally start 4 - 36 hours after eating contaminated food and often can last several days to two weeks. The reaction is so similar to the flu that it is often mistaken for the flu. Slippery Elm is the herb of choice for any gastrointestinal disturbances including food poisoning. It is very calming and soothing to the intestinal tract and will often stop the diarrhea with a few doses. I have used it when I have been emotionally upset which often causes an acidic condition in the body which manifests itself with heart burn all the way through my system and ending in burning diarrhea. I mix the powder in with water and take it every half hour and within a few hours I will be back to normal. The capsules are great for trips and came in handy for my brother. Slippery Elm has saved many

people’s lives and brought them back to good health. My favorite story is on the Herbal Legacy website called Elijah, a story of hope and progress, well worth taking the time to read. Dr. ’s well-known poultices for abscesses, boils and gangrene use Slippery Elm paste as a main ingredient. Slippery Elm is the herb that was used to heal the hip of a young pioneer boy when he received a musket blast at the Hauns Mill Massacre. His mother was instructed through the spirit how to heal him. He laid on his stomach for five weeks until he was entirely recovered, a flexible gristle having grown in place of the missing joint and socket. Ginger helps to stomach pain, cramps and indigestion. Ginger protects while stimulating, treats constipation and diarrhea while relieving nausea, inhibits toxic bacteria while promoting friendly species of bacteria. Ginger has been found to work better than the popular over the counter drugs for motion sickness. I also use it for menstrual cramps and it is found in many herbal formulas. Dr. said, “Ginger is generally combined with herbs going into the abdominal area, because it is a carrier. Ginger is an herb which accentuates so many herbs.†Two simple herbs made a happy vacation for my brother. Slippery Elm is available in bulk, capsules & Extract. Ginger is available in bulk, capsules & extract. You can purchase these herbs and others at Herbs First.

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