Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 http://www.naturalnews.com/026345_medical_police_state_chemotherapy_cancer.html(NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.#1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a medical police state.Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye." (FoxNews)#2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely living in a medical police state.#3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to find you and drag you back to the hospitalto submit to dangerous pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police state.#4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.#5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living in a medical police state.#6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then calls the police when you don't submit tochemotherapy, you're definitely living in a medical police state.Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom:"Although I've had patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had to report someone."Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Cancer...#7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by sheeple).#8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.#9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living foods have been accused of medical neglect.)#10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police state!Seven ways to free yourself from a medical police state (satire)1) Bring your lawyer with you for each visit to the doctor, and bill your doctor for the time your lawyer spends in the waiting room.2) Practice medical tourism and visit Thailand, Mexico, the Bahamas or other countries where real medicine remains legal.3) Bring a fake prosthetic arm with you when you visit the doctor, and offer it up for any injections (acting like it's yours, of course). Be sure to fake a wince when they insert the catheter.4) Before you visit the doctor, go to his house and kidnap his dog. Bring it to his clinic with you, and if the doctor insists on calling law enforcement to have your child kidnapped, offer to swap his dog for ransom. 5) Before you visit a cancer doctor, bribe another doctor to write a note saying you're "allergic to chemotherapy" because it makes your hair fall out.6) Any time your doctor says the word "chemotherapy," vomit on his desk. If he asks why, tell him you're just practicing in advance for the side effects that will occur.7) Bring a firearm with you when you visit a cancer clinic, and when the cancer doctor insists "You must submit to my four milligrams of chemotherapy," calmly answer, "Only after you submit to my nine millimeters of lead."Muhammad Ahmad Al-Masry 64, Muhammad Korayem Street, Gomrok, andria, Egypt Tel: 0020-03-4800555 Fax: 0020-03-3082667 Web: massrii@... massrii@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 I agree with you! I think that the family is afraid. This is sad because it shows that the fear of our state and government has strong hold and contol over the public. Those who make you afraid have control. This has to stop. I wish they would have appealed this. Now that the state has one, it puts our efforts farther behind. I wanted to see them fight this as I'm sure everyone did. This is a horrible step in the wrong direction of our government and state getting away with to much contol. What I want to know, is how many are willing to stand up to force used against you? FEAR IS THE PROBLEM! I wrote letters and tried to support as well. I am willing to do this for anyone who is willing to fight. Joy From: Ingrid Blank <enb1@...>Subject: Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateno-forced-vaccination Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:41 AM I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has expressed outrage at the forced "surrender" of the Hauser family. A few of us got pro-actively involved "behind the scene", providing the family with encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe. Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only, while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical onslaught on our health freedom. Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take a stand against this atrocity and we missed it! Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder) Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateby Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.#1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a medical police state.Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye." (FoxNews)#2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely living in a medical police state.#3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police state.#4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.#5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living in a medical police state.#6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely living in a medical police state.Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: "Although I've had patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had to report someone." Source: http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ Cancer...#7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by sheeple).#8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.#9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living foods have been accused of medical neglect.)#10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police state! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4114 (20090528) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 I agree with you! I think that the family is afraid. This is sad because it shows that the fear of our state and government has strong hold and contol over the public. Those who make you afraid have control. This has to stop. I wish they would have appealed this. Now that the state has one, it puts our efforts farther behind. I wanted to see them fight this as I'm sure everyone did. This is a horrible step in the wrong direction of our government and state getting away with to much contol. What I want to know, is how many are willing to stand up to force used against you? FEAR IS THE PROBLEM! I wrote letters and tried to support as well. I am willing to do this for anyone who is willing to fight. Joy From: Ingrid Blank <enb1@...>Subject: Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateno-forced-vaccination Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:41 AM I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has expressed outrage at the forced "surrender" of the Hauser family. A few of us got pro-actively involved "behind the scene", providing the family with encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe. Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only, while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical onslaught on our health freedom. Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take a stand against this atrocity and we missed it! Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder) Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateby Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.#1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a medical police state.Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye." (FoxNews)#2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely living in a medical police state.#3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police state.#4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.#5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living in a medical police state.#6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely living in a medical police state.Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: "Although I've had patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had to report someone." Source: http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ Cancer...#7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by sheeple).#8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.#9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living foods have been accused of medical neglect.)#10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police state! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4114 (20090528) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Joy is correct. Fear is the basis for any government entities being able to ride "rough-shod" over the public. Both State and Federal Governments have instilled such levels of fear in the entire population that governments know they have us all "cowed." I have no idea how the public rids itself of such fear once it has been instilled. I feel as though the public allowed itself to be totally and completely duped and "conned." I, too, spent countless hours behind the scenes, researching and corresponding with one of the family spokespersons. That included the forwarding of many articles after an initial phone conversation which lasted well over an hour. I continue to do research and gather evidence on the off chance there may still be an appeal. I have chosen not to go public with my views for two reasons: 1) I do not desire public notoriety, and 2) I feel I can do more good behind the scenes; particularly if I desire to have any chance of having an Amicus Brief accepted by the Court. I am convinced that I must remain as neutral as possible because if there were even the slightest hint of bias there would be virtually no chance at all that an Amicus Brief would be accepted by the Court. Ingrid was also extremely helpful in my quest for information and resources even while she was working against impossible deadlines in her own business. ~~Ruth Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateno-forced-vaccination Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:41 AM I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has expressed outrage at the forced "surrender" of the Hauser family. A few of us got pro-actively involved "behind the scene", providing the family with encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe. Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only, while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical onslaught on our health freedom. Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take a stand against this atrocity and we missed it! Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder) Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateby Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.#1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a medical police state.Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye." (FoxNews)#2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely living in a medical police state.#3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police state.#4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.#5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living in a medical police state.#6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely living in a medical police state.Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: "Although I've had patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had to report someone." Source: http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ Cancer...#7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by sheeple).#8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.#9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living foods have been accused of medical neglect.)#10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police state! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4114 (20090528) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Joy is correct. Fear is the basis for any government entities being able to ride "rough-shod" over the public. Both State and Federal Governments have instilled such levels of fear in the entire population that governments know they have us all "cowed." I have no idea how the public rids itself of such fear once it has been instilled. I feel as though the public allowed itself to be totally and completely duped and "conned." I, too, spent countless hours behind the scenes, researching and corresponding with one of the family spokespersons. That included the forwarding of many articles after an initial phone conversation which lasted well over an hour. I continue to do research and gather evidence on the off chance there may still be an appeal. I have chosen not to go public with my views for two reasons: 1) I do not desire public notoriety, and 2) I feel I can do more good behind the scenes; particularly if I desire to have any chance of having an Amicus Brief accepted by the Court. I am convinced that I must remain as neutral as possible because if there were even the slightest hint of bias there would be virtually no chance at all that an Amicus Brief would be accepted by the Court. Ingrid was also extremely helpful in my quest for information and resources even while she was working against impossible deadlines in her own business. ~~Ruth Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateno-forced-vaccination Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:41 AM I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has expressed outrage at the forced "surrender" of the Hauser family. A few of us got pro-actively involved "behind the scene", providing the family with encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe. Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only, while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical onslaught on our health freedom. Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take a stand against this atrocity and we missed it! Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder) Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateby Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.#1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a medical police state.Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye." (FoxNews)#2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely living in a medical police state.#3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police state.#4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.#5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living in a medical police state.#6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely living in a medical police state.Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: "Although I've had patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had to report someone." Source: http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ Cancer...#7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by sheeple).#8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.#9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living foods have been accused of medical neglect.)#10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police state! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4114 (20090528) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 There is a name for this.......TYRANNY!!!!! We must rise up to this oppression! This is Crazy! From: Ingrid Blank <enb1telkomsa (DOT) net>Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:41 AM I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has expressed outrage at the forced "surrender" of the Hauser family. A few of us got pro-actively involved "behind the scene", providing the family with encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe. Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only, while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical onslaught on our health freedom. Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take a stand against this atrocity and we missed it! Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder) Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateby Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.#1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a medical police state.Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye." (FoxNews)#2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely living in a medical police state.#3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police state.#4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.#5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living in a medical police state.#6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely living in a medical police state.Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: "Although I've had patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had to report someone." Source: http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ Cancer...#7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by sheeple).#8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.#9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living foods have been accused of medical neglect.)#10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police state! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4114 (20090528) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 There is a name for this.......TYRANNY!!!!! We must rise up to this oppression! This is Crazy! From: Ingrid Blank <enb1telkomsa (DOT) net>Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:41 AM I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has expressed outrage at the forced "surrender" of the Hauser family. A few of us got pro-actively involved "behind the scene", providing the family with encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe. Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only, while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical onslaught on our health freedom. Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take a stand against this atrocity and we missed it! Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder) Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateby Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.#1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a medical police state.Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye." (FoxNews)#2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely living in a medical police state.#3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police state.#4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.#5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living in a medical police state.#6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely living in a medical police state.Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: "Although I've had patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had to report someone." Source: http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ Cancer...#7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by sheeple).#8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.#9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living foods have been accused of medical neglect.)#10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police state! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4114 (20090528) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009  Ruth, I am not impressed with the Hauser's attorney at all! Money issues may have played a role, but in a case like this where your child's health and life is at stake, an immediate appeal would have bought them more time to prepare a PROPER evidence-based defense. A religious exemption works with vaccination, but here it was used to portray the parents as some religious nutcases. What irks me most is that Colleen Hauser virtually had to compromise her religious beliefs to keep custody of her child (reported in one newspaper that she told the judge that "she set her religious beliefs aside"). I dare say that their attorney failed them miserably. One cannot base a defense on religion (it never worked with the Jehovah Witnesses either), all that counts in a case like this is scientific evidence - substantiated by ethical scientists and researchers - that chemo not only destroys cancer cells (which is debatable) but also every living cell in your body and actually causes cancer, which has been amply documented in scientific literature. It seems that the nitwit of their lawyer was too lazy to do some proper research in this respect. Judges are generally scientifically illiterate and can only base their decision on the evidence presented and if none is submitted debunking the oncologist's claim (preferably by expert witnesses) that the child would die without chemo, then he had no choice but to rule in favor of the Mengele clones. Ingrid Joy is correct. Fear is the basis for any government entities being able to ride "rough-shod" over the public. Both State and Federal Governments have instilled such levels of fear in the entire population that governments know they have us all "cowed." I have no idea how the public rids itself of such fear once it has been instilled. I feel as though the public allowed itself to be totally and completely duped and "conned." I, too, spent countless hours behind the scenes, researching and corresponding with one of the family spokespersons. That included the forwarding of many articles after an initial phone conversation which lasted well over an hour. I continue to do research and gather evidence on the off chance there may still be an appeal. I have chosen not to go public with my views for two reasons: 1) I do not desire public notoriety, and 2) I feel I can do more good behind the scenes; particularly if I desire to have any chance of having an Amicus Brief accepted by the Court. I am convinced that I must remain as neutral as possible because if there were even the slightest hint of bias there would be virtually no chance at all that an Amicus Brief would be accepted by the Court. Ingrid was also extremely helpful in my quest for information and resources even while she was working against impossible deadlines in her own business. ~~Ruth Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateno-forced-vaccination Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:41 AM I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has expressed outrage at the forced "surrender" of the Hauser family. A few of us got pro-actively involved "behind the scene", providing the family with encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe. Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only, while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical onslaught on our health freedom. Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take a stand against this atrocity and we missed it! Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder) Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateby Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.#1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a medical police state.Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye." (FoxNews)#2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely living in a medical police state.#3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police state.#4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.#5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living in a medical police state.#6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely living in a medical police state.Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: "Although I've had patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had to report someone." Source: http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ Cancer...#7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by sheeple).#8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.#9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living foods have been accused of medical neglect.)#10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police state! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4114 (20090528) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4116 (20090529) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009  Ruth, I am not impressed with the Hauser's attorney at all! Money issues may have played a role, but in a case like this where your child's health and life is at stake, an immediate appeal would have bought them more time to prepare a PROPER evidence-based defense. A religious exemption works with vaccination, but here it was used to portray the parents as some religious nutcases. What irks me most is that Colleen Hauser virtually had to compromise her religious beliefs to keep custody of her child (reported in one newspaper that she told the judge that "she set her religious beliefs aside"). I dare say that their attorney failed them miserably. One cannot base a defense on religion (it never worked with the Jehovah Witnesses either), all that counts in a case like this is scientific evidence - substantiated by ethical scientists and researchers - that chemo not only destroys cancer cells (which is debatable) but also every living cell in your body and actually causes cancer, which has been amply documented in scientific literature. It seems that the nitwit of their lawyer was too lazy to do some proper research in this respect. Judges are generally scientifically illiterate and can only base their decision on the evidence presented and if none is submitted debunking the oncologist's claim (preferably by expert witnesses) that the child would die without chemo, then he had no choice but to rule in favor of the Mengele clones. Ingrid Joy is correct. Fear is the basis for any government entities being able to ride "rough-shod" over the public. Both State and Federal Governments have instilled such levels of fear in the entire population that governments know they have us all "cowed." I have no idea how the public rids itself of such fear once it has been instilled. I feel as though the public allowed itself to be totally and completely duped and "conned." I, too, spent countless hours behind the scenes, researching and corresponding with one of the family spokespersons. That included the forwarding of many articles after an initial phone conversation which lasted well over an hour. I continue to do research and gather evidence on the off chance there may still be an appeal. I have chosen not to go public with my views for two reasons: 1) I do not desire public notoriety, and 2) I feel I can do more good behind the scenes; particularly if I desire to have any chance of having an Amicus Brief accepted by the Court. I am convinced that I must remain as neutral as possible because if there were even the slightest hint of bias there would be virtually no chance at all that an Amicus Brief would be accepted by the Court. Ingrid was also extremely helpful in my quest for information and resources even while she was working against impossible deadlines in her own business. ~~Ruth Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateno-forced-vaccination Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:41 AM I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has expressed outrage at the forced "surrender" of the Hauser family. A few of us got pro-actively involved "behind the scene", providing the family with encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe. Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only, while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical onslaught on our health freedom. Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take a stand against this atrocity and we missed it! Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder) Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateby Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.#1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a medical police state.Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye." (FoxNews)#2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely living in a medical police state.#3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police state.#4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.#5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living in a medical police state.#6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely living in a medical police state.Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: "Although I've had patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had to report someone." Source: http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ Cancer...#7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by sheeple).#8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.#9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living foods have been accused of medical neglect.)#10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police state! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4114 (20090528) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4116 (20090529) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 I gave a brief account of what I've gone through the last 40 years, and it ranks right up there with the Hauser case. Outrage? I've been too busy juggling my own horrors with very little help from anyone else out there. It goes far beyond outrage, my guts have been torn out, my family destroyed... From: Ingrid Blank <enb1@...>Subject: Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateno-forced-vaccination Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:41 PM I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has expressed outrage at the forced "surrender" of the Hauser family. A few of us got pro-actively involved "behind the scene", providing the family with encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe. Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only, while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical onslaught on our health freedom. Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take a stand against this atrocity and we missed it! Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder) Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police Stateby Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.#1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a medical police state.Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye." (FoxNews)#2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely living in a medical police state.#3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police state.#4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.#5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living in a medical police state.#6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely living in a medical police state.Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: "Although I've had patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had to report someone." Source: http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ Cancer...#7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by sheeple).#8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.#9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living foods have been accused of medical neglect.)#10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police state! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4114 (20090528) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 ---For many of us, I think it goes beyond, not joing ranks, many of of us are too danged beat up, batter ill, drained and do what we can just to maintain, but our discussing it, her and among, our friends family, ect gets the thought, the intent of this MAJOR issue out there and that is 9/10ths of it is it not. We give it energy by discussion, and it gets heard, it is NOt a dead horse issue YET.. This is like Flash backs for many of us, far too real. Dona In no-forced-vaccination , " Ingrid Blank " <enb1@...> wrote: > > I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has > expressed outrage at the forced " surrender " of the Hauser family. A few of > us got pro-actively involved " behind the scene " , providing the family with > encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the > medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe. > Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only, > while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical > onslaught on our health freedom. > Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take > a stand against this atrocity and we missed it! > > Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder) > > > Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police State > by Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor > > (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The > recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy > seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living > under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state. > > #1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just > to make sure you don't escape " treatment " -- you're probably living in a > medical police state. > > Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney > Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye. " > (FoxNews) > > #2 - If saying " I'd rather not inject my child with that poison " to your > doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely > living in a medical police state. > > #3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to > find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous > pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police > state. > > #4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in > order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state. > > #5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing > cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living > in a medical police state. > > #6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing " integrative medicine " but then > calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely > living in a medical police state. > > Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: " Although I've had > patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had > to report someone. " Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Cancer... > > #7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's > right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals, > you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by > sheeple). > > #8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and > forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, " It's for your > own good, " then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state. > > #9 - If the State calls you " medically negligent " for feeding your child raw > foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red > meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical > police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living > foods have been accused of medical neglect.) > > #10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis > you with " Oppositional Defiance Disorder " and demands you take his > mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police > state! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 I am in basic agreement with this and Alan F. The case does, indeed, hit too close to home for many of us. It really opens up old wounds and rubs coarse salt into them. Extremely painful. ~~Ruth Re: Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police State ---For many of us, I think it goes beyond, not joing ranks, many of of us are too danged beat up, batter ill, drained and do what we can just to maintain, but our discussing it, her and among, our friends family, ect gets the thought, the intent of this MAJOR issue out there and that is 9/10ths of it is it not. We give it energy by discussion, and it gets heard, it is NOt a dead horse issue YET..This is like Flash backs for many of us, far too real.Dona In no-forced-vaccination , "Ingrid Blank" <enb1@...> wrote:>> I find it rather odd, if not disturbing, that no member of this list has> expressed outrage at the forced "surrender" of the Hauser family. A few of> us got pro-actively involved "behind the scene", providing the family with> encouragement and information communicated to us by professionals in the> medical and legal field and reporting this atrocity across the globe.> Many list members may have joined this group for information purposes only,> while others are driven by the genuine desire to fight this diabolical> onslaught on our health freedom.> Well, this high-profile case provided us with a chance to collectively take> a stand against this atrocity and we missed it!> > Ingrid (proud of and nurturing her oppositional defiance disorder)> > > Top 10 Ways to Know You're Living in a Medical Police State> by Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor> > (NaturalNews) Are Americans really living in a medical police state? The> recent news with Hauser and his family's fight over chemotherapy> seems to indicate so. Here are ten ways to recognize whether you're living> under the oppressive tyranny of a medical police state.> > #1 - If an armed U.S. Marshall is posted outside your house at night -- just> to make sure you don't escape "treatment" -- you're probably living in a> medical police state.> > Source: " was allowed to spend the night at home, but County Attorney> Olson said a deputy was posted at the Hauser farm in Sleepy Eye."> (FoxNews)> > #2 - If saying "I'd rather not inject my child with that poison" to your> doctor results in him calling Child Protective Services, you're most likely> living in a medical police state.> > #3 - If a nationwide manhunt (involving FBI agents) is unleashed just to> find you and drag you back to the hospital to submit to dangerous> pharmaceuticals, there's little doubt you're living in a medical police> state.> > #4 - If you find yourself suddenly wondering if you should flee to Mexico in> order to find freedom, you're probably living in a medical police state.> > #5 - If doctors call the police to prevent you from visiting competing> cancer clinics outside the country, that's a warning sign that you're living> in a medical police state.> > #6 - If your doctor claims to be practicing "integrative medicine" but then> calls the police when you don't submit to chemotherapy, you're definitely> living in a medical police state.> > Quote from Hauser's oncologist, Dr. Bostrom: "Although I've had> patients concerned about getting chemo, this is the first time I've ever had> to report someone." Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Cancer...> > #7 - If you're blasted by the mainstream media for supporting a mother's> right to protect her teenage son from an injection of toxic chemicals,> you're almost certainly living in a medical police state (populated by> sheeple).> > #8 - If you walk into a hospital and they handcuff you, steal your child and> forcibly inject him with dangerous poisons while explaining, "It's for your> own good," then you're almost certainly living in a medical police state.> > #9 - If the State calls you "medically negligent" for feeding your child raw> foods, or medicinal herbs, or holistic diets that are free from sugar, red> meat and chemical additives, then you're definitely living in a medical> police state. (Fact: Parents who feed their children diets of raw, living> foods have been accused of medical neglect.)> > #10 - If you disagree with your psychiatrist, and in response he diagnosis> you with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" and demands you take his> mind-altering psych drugs, you are absolutely living in a medical police> state!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 IF you are too beaten down to respond, you have lost the battle. Pick yourself up, take a deep breath and get activated again. There is everything to loose by fatigue, inaction and despair. Those are the tools that the other side uses to make sure that you are inactivated. The Natural Solutions Foundation is dealing with the Health Freedom issues that are being thrown at us faster than we can count them but we cannot do it alone. I know that each of you has special reasons to be tired, overwhelmed and exhausted. If we are not ready to give up, we need to give each other comfort, support and assistance and then do the job that needs to be done. That means being proactive, spreading the word, taking Action Steps, forwarding emails, etc. What happens if we do not win? Forced vaccinations with more and more insane and deadly vaccines Forced medication with more and more deadly drugs Totally weaponized food rendered useless and toxic to our bodies Zero medical privacy Loss of all high potency nutrients and hers Lack of freedom to grow, provide or produce our own foods Total contamination of the bioshere A continuing onslaught of new and deadlier diseases to be " treated " or " prevented " by new and deadlier drugs and treatments - see first item. NOW would be a good time to get busy disseminating this information and organizing the steps that need to be taken by as many people as you can possibly reach. And now would be a good time to visit www.HealthFreedomUSA.org and make a donation. This campaign is not free although General Bert and I work much more than full time at it without any financial compensation whatsoever. Right now. Yours in health and freedom, Dr. Rima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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