Re: Losing my mind: Opinions

[Guest guest]

I know that a fast would be beneficial, but have nothing on the steroids except what you already know.

Now here's the crux, I've been doing strictly juice for 30 days (strained even after coming out of the juicer.) The constant that I take in every day is:

2 pounds of greens

1 whole head of celery

2 cucumbers

Then I add in whatever it is I want to make 4 quarts of pure juice, no fiber.

Okay, the good news is I lost 15.5 pounds. Bad news is, I haven't accomplished much in the way of alleviating the pain in my shoulder (probably arthritis, but don't do doctors), nor has it made any impact on the general weakness on my right side. I'm sure if I could do the full 92 days that is recommended I would have a great deal more gains in the health field. I am going to ask my naturopath to do my cholesterol readings next Wednesday to see if it has made any impact on my numbers.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is don't expect miracles with a couple days of juicing and enemas (which I was doing one every morning for 30 mornings). With what you are dealing with I would consult with a fasting expert. Doug Graham comes to mind www.foodnsport.com You can have an initial consultation for $25 from him (it's under "shop" partway down the page).

Hope this helps a bit and isn't too hard to swallow. I know I expected a lot more on 30 days of juice, but hey it took me 60 years to get where I am! I'll do a longer fast in the future.

Shari

[Guest guest]

Shari, have you tried a combination of celery

seed/turmeric/bromelain/cherry for what might be arthritis? My dh uses it in a

capsule form called Go-Out (he started taking it because he would get gout

attacks periodically, but it’s useful for all types of arthritis and

inflammation).

Sharyn

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

Bad news is, I haven't accomplished much in the way of alleviating the

pain in my shoulder (probably arthritis, but don't do doctors),

[Guest guest]

No I have not, but will investigate. We have a wonderful supplements store just down the street from us Seattle Super Supplements. They carry everything except the one by Oreganol that I was taking for inflammation.

A rep gave me a bottle of it as a sample at a show and I've not found it in any stores and it's quite pricey over the net. I will look into this as an alternative.

Thanks for the info. That's why I love this group! Someone always has an answer!!!

Shari

RE: Losing my mind: Opinions

Shari, have you tried a combination of celery seed/turmeric/bromelain/cherry for what might be arthritis? My dh uses it in a capsule form called Go-Out (he started taking it because he would get gout attacks periodically, but it’s useful for all types of arthritis and inflammation).

Sharyn

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

Bad news is, I haven't accomplished much in the way of alleviating the pain in my shoulder (probably arthritis, but don't do doctors),

[Guest guest]

I got mine and take it daily! So far no benefits but it's only been 4 days!!!Candace"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it."~Chinese Proverb~Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 12, 2010, at 2:44 PM, "Sharyn E. Cerniglia" <sharyncern@...> wrote:

Shari, have you tried a combination of celery

seed/turmeric/bromelain/cherry for what might be arthritis? My dh uses it in a

capsule form called Go-Out (he started taking it because he would get gout

attacks periodically, but it’s useful for all types of arthritis and

inflammation).

Sharyn

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

Bad news is, I haven't accomplished much in the way of alleviating the

pain in my shoulder (probably arthritis, but don't do doctors),

[Guest guest]

I hope it works for you! If you can’t

find it, let me know and I’ll look on the label for you for a phone

number or web site.

Sharyn

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010

3:54 PM

health

Subject: Re:

Losing my mind: Opinions

No I have not, but will investigate. We have a

wonderful supplements store just down the street from us Seattle Super

Supplements. They carry everything except the one by Oreganol that I was

taking for inflammation.

A rep gave me a bottle of it as a sample at a show and I've

not found it in any stores and it's quite pricey over the net. I will look

into this as an alternative.

Thanks for the info. That's why I love this

group! Someone always has an answer!!!

Shari

RE:

Losing my mind: Opinions

Shari, have you tried a combination of celery seed/turmeric/bromelain/cherry

for what might be arthritis? My dh uses it in a capsule form called

Go-Out (he started taking it because he would get gout attacks periodically,

but it’s useful for all types of arthritis and inflammation).

Sharyn

From: health

[mailto:health ]

On Behalf Of SV

Bad news is, I

haven't accomplished much in the way of alleviating the pain in my shoulder

(probably arthritis, but don't do doctors),

[Guest guest]

Oh, Candace, I'm so sorry you're in such a state! You are indeed on some real

poisons.

For your adrenals, there's a great supplement called ADRENergize (www.enzy.com).

That website is admirable, and there are many other good things on there, too,

including Resveratrol-forte.

Another remarkable supplement: Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol ~ avoid D2

ergocalciferol!!) ~ we're just discovering that we are ALL severely deficient in

D, and that there is hardly a disease process around that can't be helped by

taking AT LEAST 5000 IU of D3 per day. A great article for the details you need

in order to 'do it right' is here:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/10/Vitamin-D-Experts-\

Reveal-the-Truth.aspx (link, don't fail me now!!).

I work in an independent pharmacy, and we all take these supplements ourselves.

We really do believe in them. Yes, our bread and butter may be the poisons

peddled by Big Pharma, but I love my boss for steering people toward natural

remedies whenever she can.

I will talk to my pharmacists (I'm a technician) on Monday and see if I can

supply you with some steroid-weaning info (adrenal-cortex supplements are

naturally-derived steroids, whereas pharmaceutical corticosteroids are the

synthetic trash, replete with awful side-effects, as I'm sure you know).

Take care in the meantime!

Judy

>

> Alright... I think i might be going a little crazy and I need your guys'

expert opinions!!!

>

> For those who don't know, I have Lupus (SLE). Dr has me on steroids that I

can't seem to wean off of. If I go below 15mg my joints swell up and go

apeshmuck.

> I'm on Plaquenil (yuck) which isn't working so he doubled my dose yesterday.

> And I'm on Methotrexate (TRIPLE yuck!) that I take once a week and knocks me

on my butt for 3 days. I can't get out of bed and I hurt all over and it SUCKS!

My teeth hurt. My vision goes down the crapper. It is KILLING ME ...

[Guest guest]

Gosh i am so out of touch/havent logged in for months. Candace Sweetie - i am

so sorry to hear about the Lupus diagnosis and your further dilema with all the

stuff they have you on.

I dont have any info to offer, besides much has already been offered; but will

at least keep you in prayer and in hopes that you find the right solution for

you.

Sylvia

>

> Alright... I think i might be going a little crazy and I need your guys'

expert opinions!!!

>

> For those who don't know, I have Lupus (SLE). Dr has me on steroids that I

can't seem to wean off of. If I go below 15mg my joints swell up and go

apeshmuck.

> I'm on Plaquenil (yuck) which isn't working so he doubled my dose yesterday.

> And I'm on Methotrexate (TRIPLE yuck!) that I take once a week and knocks me

on my butt for 3 days. I can't get out of bed and I hurt all over and it SUCKS!

My teeth hurt. My vision goes down the crapper. It is KILLING ME.

>

> I'm also on 1800mg of Gabapentin to stop the nerve spasms/pain. I started on

300mg and in 2 months I've jumped that much because it's getting WORSE! And I'm

starting to get rashes. From the meds? Or the lupus? Who knows!?

>

> Anyways... I'm going crazy. I feel like I'm gonna die most days, have NO

energy and I know these meds are messing me up good. My joints are so weak I can

barely pick up a box of envelopes at work. It's messing with my job, my home

life, I have NO social life....

> I was planning to wait til this flareup stopped and then start the Gerson

Therapy.

>

> Well I can't take it anymore.

>

> Here's where I need your opinion. Feel free to tell me that I'm losing my mind

and this is a dumb idea. Or that I'm brilliant (ha ha).

>

> I would like to STOP taking my meds and do a liver cleanse/juice fast this

weekend and into next week. Enemas every 6 hours to clear toxins and get the

meds out of my system. I have lots of herbs for inflammation and pain. Should I

keep taking my steroids???

>

> Any thoughts? I don't know what happens if you go off steroids when your body

is dependent on them!? Would a juice fast help get my adrenals working again or

would I end up laying in bed for a week unable to move again!?!?

>

> I don't know what to do. The lupus is killing me and the drugs are killing me

and I'm DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't want to wait and

see which one kills me first!

>

>

> Candace

>

[Guest guest]

ok, what is the difference (besides ingredients) between ADRENergize and herbal adrenergize?? Which is actually better?

I was reading the website..

I am a believer in vit D3...

Suzi

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health

What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

From: humingbrd128 <humingbrd128@...>health Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 10:48:21 AMSubject: Re: Losing my mind: OpinionsFor your adrenals, there's a great supplement called ADRENergize (www.enzy.com). That website is admirable, and there are many other good things on there, too, including Resveratrol-forte.Another remarkable supplement: Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol ~ avoid D2 ergocalciferol!!) ~ we're just discovering that we are ALL severely deficient in D, and that there is hardly a disease process around that can't be helped by taking AT LEAST 5000 IU of D3 per day. A great article for the details you need

in order to 'do it right' is here: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/10/Vitamin-D-Experts-Reveal-the-Truth.aspx (link, don't fail me now!!).I