Arthritis

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Hi,

If you have rheumatoid arthritis, LDN should help. To learn more about LDN,

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Dudley Delany

dudley_delany

[low dose naltrexone] arthritis

anyone know if ldn could be any help with swollen/stiff joints?

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I am using it for inflammatory arthritis. I’ve been on it for about 5 weeks now and am very pleased so far. I got an immediate result (within two days) with my hip and knee, and am noticing more subtle changes in my hands and wrists. Best of all, I am completely off my pain medication (Celebrex) and just got off plaquenil, which was being used as a mild immuno-suppressant. I’m not even using Tylenol anymore. I still have some pain and inflammation, but it’s manageable without meds.

I’m still at 3.0mg daily and am hoping for even better results when I move up to 4.5. Still getting used to it and I want to take it slowly.

I say, give it a try.

Judy

From: L MCGANN <lnr2@...>

Reply-<low dose naltrexone >

Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:23:07 +0000

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Subject: [low dose naltrexone] arthritis

anyone know if ldn could be any help with swollen/stiff joints?

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:  you can look these tests up on the web and find out exactly what they're

looking for. 

 Joanna Hoelscher

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TSH - thryoid function. A good thing to check. Malfunctioning

thyroid can cause weight gain, skin problems, joint pain, etc.

BMP - basic metabolic panel. Standard blood work. Not unusual.

CBC - complete blood count. Also very standard. This one checks

typical white and red blood cell stuff, platelets, etc. There are

some anemias that can cause joint pain, so they will want to rule

that out.

ESR - Erythrocyte sedimentation rate, also called (for short) " sed "

rate. Elevated sed rate indicates inflammation. Be aware that many

of us always have normal sed rates even when the rheumy can see the

inflammation with her own eyes.

CMP - comprehensive metabolic panel. Checks a lot of the same stuff

as BMP but also includes the " liver panel " which tests liver

function. This is important if you are taking NSAIDs or other drugs

that can harm your liver. Also some liver problems can cause joint

pain.

Uric acid - they are testing this to rule out gout, which can cause

joint pain similar to PA. Many people have PA and gout together.

, how long have you been seeing the rheumies? It can take up to

a year to get this stuff nailed down in some cases. Don't panic.

Hang in there. You do have psoriasis, don't you? I would think it

would be obvious PA if you have psoriasis.

" S. Zorzi " <szorzi_1999@...>

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" <masseytdm@...> wrote: Does any one know what tsh, bmp, cbc,

esr, cmp and uric acid for blood work mean and how high or low?

CBC = complete blood count. Without a differential, just means they

check your white blood cell count, red blood cell count, hemoglobin,

hematocrit, MCH, MCV, MCHC, and platelet count. With a differential,

they check what sorts of white blood cells are floating around in

your blood stream. As a general rule, lymphs and monos are viral,

eosinophils are usually either related to allergic flares or

parasitic infestation, and neutrophils/segs/stabs/bands are generally

either inflammation or bacterial. My WBC is always high (around

12,000), as are my neutrophils (usually 80-90%), and during allergy

season my eosinophils are always elevated. My rheumy told me that

this, along with the C-Reactive Protein was a way of measuring my

body's inflammatory/immune response to the disease and treatment with

the DMARD's. My platelets tend to run high when I am having a

disease flare as well, 400,000 or more.

TSH = thyroid stimulating hormone. Can indicate whether your thyroid

is underactive, overactive, or normally functioning. It's not

uncommon for folks with one autoimmune disease to have other

autoimmune disorders such as thyroid issues. Did your doc order a T4

or free T4 (thyroxine level) as well? The two are usually done

together.

ESR = sed rate. Basically a measure to check for inflammation, but

not always reliable. My sed rate isn't that high, only between 26-28,

even when I'm in my worst flares. My C-Reactive Protein is always

sky-high though, up to 32 at one point (which is about 8 times

normal, the rheumy said at the time.) So far the lowest I've been

able to get it down to is between 10-12.

Uric Acid = basically checks for gout. When your body's nutrition is

broken down, urea and uric acid is produced. In gout, the uric acid

builds up in tissues instead of being excreted by the kidneys and

causes inflammation and pain. A classic gout attack typically

involves severe redness, pain, warmth, and swelling of the big toe

joints.

BMP/CMP = basic and complete or comprehensive metabolic panels.

Chemistry tests such as glucose, liver enzymes, sodium, potassium,

carbon dioxide, chloride and so on. A basic metabolic panel

typically only tests for the electrolytes and glucose, a complete or

comprehensive metabolic panel tests for those along with several

other things (depending on the hospital or lab, may total about 20-23

different elements tested). Doing both is overkill. The laboratory

should cancel the basic panel, since it is contained within the

complete/comprehensive panel.

As for what abnormal values mean, it's always best to sit down and

have a frank discussion with the doctor who ordered the tests about

that. After all, he or she is being paid for your health care, which

includes a thorough explanation to you about your test results.

Good luck.

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Zorzi I was diagnosed in June of 2007 with psoriasis it first started out

as eczema and then into sporiais had patches on my elbows and ankles

and knees and forearms and top part of hands. I almost didn't get to

keep my job over it said they were afraid the scales would fall off

into the pies and stix I work for a food bakery and was very upset

that they would say somehting like that, this was the first time I

have had any touble about the job I was doing.I was layed off 3 weeks

to get it in contol. Fisrt time my hand swelled was may 2007 and then

oct 2007, actually my fingers thumb and finger next to and middle. I've

not had any swelling since then but the pain is still there. I wake up

tired and my hands are stiff and burning and tingling cant grip

things very good. Is this normal? I use talcolnex for my psoriasis

which has been real good but its got to where its not wanting to

clear some of the psoriasis up being stuborn pretty lately, I aslo lay

in tanning bed to help but since its summer i bought a pool hope it

works.

Thanks forthe help I have been looking at everything I can read up

on psoriatic arthtis.

Sorry so long

Tahnks

[Guest guest]

and Group

Yeah I got arthritis in my finger, and in the rest of me lol. I wish

I could see the look on my face when I read RA is one of the worst

arthritiss to get. Goodness gracious from what I saw of all the

arthritis, and RA the worse. What can be worse than Osteo? The

pictureas of little old ladies huntch over. That is a pityful sight.

My grandmother had large golf balls on her knuckles it appear. I

remember rubbing it gently and asking grandma does this hurt. She

said no baby. It was aweful. I couldnt understand why it didnt hurt.

I guess the bumps don't hurt.

RA is an autoimmune disease I guess thats why RA is so bad, besides

the pain. I love to hear people say they are in remmission. That is

great. I know there are better days for some. RA effects the joint.

but i got pain in the muscles. My friend said sometimes what affects

the joint affects the muscles. I pray for a cure for RA and all

arthritis. Wouldnt that be wonderful?? Dont worry about the

arthritis doctors haveing a job. They are doctors. lol

hugs everyone

Clora

>

> Some people know what it is and get a terrible look on their face

when I

> tell them I have RA. Others do what you are saying here. Either

they tell me

> about some folk remedy their parents took for arthritis, or they

do what your

> brother's partner did. Just last week, a guy said " oh, I have

arthritis too and

> had to have my knee replaced "

>

> dd

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Everyone

I just read through the last of my group email. Gosh, I wanted more

lol. Everyones email they send matches my life and feelings somehow

It feels strange to see mail about yourself when some one else is

writting it. haaaaaaaaaaa. It feels good also, because I have other

people, to really understand what I am going through. I mean to

REALLY UNDERSTAND.

When I first recieved the group email it was over whelming so I

skimmed through them. As I got to know each of you I began to read

carefully each email. I thought at first this is to much. Now I cant

get enough of your email. haaaaaaaaa. I love you guys. And Barbara

quit hurting for us. We don't want you to hurt anymore than you have

to. I am so glad you feel so close to us like you do. When I read

your message as thought oh no dont hurt please Barbara.

I am thinking everyone is waiting for me to get new meds for pain

Wednesday. Don't get your hopes up like me. THis is a new doctor.

She just came into doctoring. She told me when I came to her. " I

dont treat symptons I treat the source " I thought omg I will suffer

for a very long time. I can't get a new rheumatoligist. My insurance

allows me to only go to other doctors through my primary doctor. I

am on medicare and South Carolina sollutions. Not medicaid but

related to medicaid. yes I have suffered, but I am counting on her

doing something big this time. Cause its been a year of her treating

sources. It's time to treat symptons whether she like it or not. She

did say I will start injections next time. woo hoo.

Guys I have said I suffered from pain my entire adult life, also I

went through childbirth, I have had serious surgeries. When I tell

you how bad RA feels put all that into one. Surgery, child birth and

life's pain. Thats how bad RA feels to me. So my heart goes out to

each and every one of you. I am like Barbara. I feel for all of you

too. I am taking advice from all of you. I am trying to grin an bare

it lol, I am taking my meds, I try to have a positive outlook, and I

wait every day for your emails.

I love you all

Clora

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A don't think a knee replacement is a walk in the park, either.

Rheumatoid arthritis is really bad and can affect organs as well as

joints, but osteoarthritis can be really rough, too. My SIL just had a

knee replacement last week, and was in a lot of pain before and after

the surgery. Now she has to go to physical therapy for a time until she

can use the new knee.

Sue

On Monday, July 28, 2008, at 09:07 AM, dgd301@... wrote:

> Just last week, a guy said " oh, I have arthritis too and

> had to have my knee replaced "

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I believe that not all people try to " one up us " .  I think they use their pain

to try to empathize and relate with us.  It is true that every human body does

get wear and tear arthritis and joints hurt that didn't when they were younger. 

My mom is only 55, I am 36.  She has recently been having problems with the

bottom of her feet and her hip bone as does my aunt.  They limp just like I do

and I have the seronegative RA and FMS and something else going on with my

connective tissue.  I don't feel I can judge anothers pain.  Every single person

is different and their body and mind might perceive pain differently.  For

instance, those with RA that may have depression, depression adds emotional pain

on top of physical pain and actually makes the RA physical pain worse.  That's

why doctors emphasize working on any mental/emotional issues.  So when someone

tells us they hurt I feel for them, since I know what pain is like.  However, I

don't

overdo it.  I don't advertise my disabilities to others either.  The disease

isn't who I am as a person.  The pain isn't who I am as a person.  I do vent at

times to close family (my mom usually, or sometimes on here).  But I never let

pain dominate my everyday conversations.  I feel if I do that then I am giving

the pain more power and value than it is worth.  My hands may hurt when I am

carrying my grocery bag but I don't look at my shopping companion and complain

at all.  I've tried a few support groups where some people complained constantly

or every single conversation was about pain and it overwhelmed me.  There was

never any positivity just negativity...that was bad for me to hear so I can't

imagine what their life must be like on a daily basis not finding one small

thing positive.  So when someone tells me they hurt, I say I am sorry for your

pain and I pray it goes away soon..just as I am sure they hope ours does as well

From: dgd301@... <dgd301@...>

Subject: [ ] arthritis

Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 9:07 AM

In a message dated 7/28/2008 7:55:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

michellefollet writes:

Then when I was

telling his partner about my recent trips to hospital(only because

she asked) she came out with, " Oh I have arthritis in my finger!! "

and then she said " we will all get it one day "

Some people know what it is and get a terrible look on their face when I

tell them I have RA. Others do what you are saying here. Either they tell me

about some folk remedy their parents took for arthritis, or they do what your

brother's partner did. Just last week, a guy said " oh, I have arthritis too and

had to have my knee replaced "

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Will be thinking of you,tomorrow, Chlora

Hope you might manage some  restful shut-eye tonight but I wonder about that

!?!

Know from my own  friend's early appointments,so long waited for, with such

naturally great expectations, that the event can seem initially a huge ante

-climax, a let-down even, to begin with. You are probably sadly realising but

also coming to see there is no fix all solution to banish these cruel

diseases,  more like 'suck it and see'. Good luck with that.

Still, it sounds as though you may be offered somrthing stronger for your

horrible pain:O hope so, push for that, and also I hope all the other treatment

options will be considered for you.

Friend in UK

From: CLORA <clora4jesus@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: arthritis

Date: Monday, 28 July, 2008, 7:10 PM

Everyone

I just read through the last of my group email. Gosh, I wanted more

lol. Everyones email they send matches my life and feelings somehow

It feels strange to see mail about yourself when some one else is

writting it. haaaaaaaaaaa. It feels good also, because I have other

people, to really understand what I am going through. I mean to

REALLY UNDERSTAND.

When I first recieved the group email it was over whelming so I

skimmed through them. As I got to know each of you I began to read

carefully each email. I thought at first this is to much. Now I cant

get enough of your email. haaaaaaaaa. I love you guys. And Barbara

quit hurting for us. We don't want you to hurt anymore than you have

to. I am so glad you feel so close to us like you do. When I read

your message as thought oh no dont hurt please Barbara.

I am thinking everyone is waiting for me to get new meds for pain

Wednesday. Don't get your hopes up like me. THis is a new doctor.

She just came into doctoring. She told me when I came to her. " I

dont treat symptons I treat the source " I thought omg I will suffer

for a very long time. I can't get a new rheumatoligist. My insurance

allows me to only go to other doctors through my primary doctor. I

am on medicare and South Carolina sollutions. Not medicaid but

related to medicaid. yes I have suffered, but I am counting on her

doing something big this time. Cause its been a year of her treating

sources. It's time to treat symptons whether she like it or not. She

did say I will start injections next time. woo hoo.

Guys I have said I suffered from pain my entire adult life, also I

went through childbirth, I have had serious surgeries. When I tell

you how bad RA feels put all that into one. Surgery, child birth and

life's pain. Thats how bad RA feels to me. So my heart goes out to

each and every one of you. I am like Barbara. I feel for all of you

too. I am taking advice from all of you. I am trying to grin an bare

it lol, I am taking my meds, I try to have a positive outlook, and I

wait every day for your emails.

I love you all

Clora

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Chriss in the UK and Group

Yes, I am on a lot of meds now for RA. But so far nothing is helping.

A month ago my rhuemy told me to get my eye report in and to clear up

this infection with my primary doctor and you can start injections.

Thats why I am so happy about tomorrow. Its been a month and I see her

tomorrow, wednesday,

Thanks for reading our email and answering. I love to hear what

everyone is taking. What is working and what is not working. Some of

the meds I take is working for others. So it seems to depend on the

person. I got to read on. Got 20 more emails to read from the group.

Some of the people I havent answered, I read your emails too.

Pain free days to everyone

hugs

CLORA

[Guest guest]

HI CLORA, WHAT MEDS DO U TAKE IF U DON'T MIND ME ASKING? I'M ALSO ON TONS OF

MEDS & I NEVER KNOW WHAT IS HELPING EITHER! I'LL WAIT FOR A RESPONSE. GOD

BLESS,MELYNDAGAMEZ 7/29/08 10:50P.M.CENTRAL

[ ] Re: arthritis

Chriss in the UK and Group

Yes, I am on a lot of meds now for RA. But so far nothing is helping.

A month ago my rhuemy told me to get my eye report in and to clear up

this infection with my primary doctor and you can start injections.

Thats why I am so happy about tomorrow. Its been a month and I see her

tomorrow, wednesday,

Thanks for reading our email and answering. I love to hear what

everyone is taking.. What is working and what is not working. Some of

the meds I take is working for others. So it seems to depend on the

person. I got to read on. Got 20 more emails to read from the group.

Some of the people I havent answered, I read your emails too.

Pain free days to everyone

hugs

CLORA

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Group

I almost forgot, I take lyrcia for fibromyalgia, I am on diatetic

meds, also congestive heart medicine, also high blood pressure

medicine, I would have to write everything I take again for

emergencies, my meds change a lot.

Clora

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi all,

>

> I also have Candida and Adrenal Faitgue.

>

> The thing I've noticed is my joints around my ankles and fingers have

> been feeling sore in the last year, especialy in winter. I've been on

> this program for 1.5 years . I have Bee's egg drink once or twice a

day

> and have a meal at the end of the day.

>

> Would anyone have any idea what could be behind these sore ankles and

> fingers. Is this arthritis?

Hi Denis. Your soreness is mainly caused by toxins. I think doctors

call it arthritis, and I wrote any article about it and related

problems which will help you:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/arth1.php

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee

Thanks for your response and the link. I will follow the advice on

this page.

Could excessive protein be involved as well? Sometimes I can't help

myself have too much chicken, beef or lamb.

I have stopped using a far-infra-red sauna in the past year. I used

to used one for 3 years before that. So I don't detox as much as I

used to. But I'm getting a far-infra red sauna any week now, so I can

resume with the detoxing.

In fact lately, I may have been re-toxing. I've been eating free-

range chickens in the past year as well. The imbalance of the omega

3: 6 balance could be having an effect. I just came across a company

that delivers Organic chickens (they're still grain fed-though).

What do you think about grain fed organic chickens? I think I know

the answer to that one....

I think it's impossible to come across any non-grain fed here in

Australia, due to the drought conditions. I've never seen it. But I

have come across grass-fed lamb and beef.

And last of all , thanks for helping everyone out with your time and

knowledge Bee. You're truly making a difference.

Much appreciated,

Denis

>

> Hi Denis. Your soreness is mainly caused by toxins. I think

doctors

> call it arthritis, and I wrote any article about it and related

> problems which will help you:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/arth1.php

>

> Cheers, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee

>

> Thanks for your response and the link. I will follow the advice on

> this page.

>

> Could excessive protein be involved as well? Sometimes I can't help

> myself have too much chicken, beef or lamb.

+++No, excessive protein wouldn't cause health problems. The Hunter-

Gatherers ate a lot of protein, with moderate fat and low carbs and

they were very healthy. Dr. Mercola writes that eating a high

protein diet isn't a problem IF you obtain enough calcium (along with

magnesium of course). That's why the supplements I recommend are

also important to take. I believe it is important to also consume

enough " good " fats with protein like the Eskimos whose diets were

only protein and good fats.

+++However it is a waste of money to make protein do the job of carbs

(58% of protein turns into glucose inside the body).

>

> I have stopped using a far-infra-red sauna in the past year. I used

> to used one for 3 years before that. So I don't detox as much as I

> used to. But I'm getting a far-infra red sauna any week now, so I

can resume with the detoxing.

+++Good for you.

>

> In fact lately, I may have been re-toxing. I've been eating free-

> range chickens in the past year as well. The imbalance of the omega

> 3: 6 balance could be having an effect. I just came across a

company that delivers Organic chickens (they're still grain fed-

though).

>

> What do you think about grain fed organic chickens? I think I know

> the answer to that one....

+++Grain fed organic chickens do not produce a good mixture of fats

in their meat or eggs; free–range chickens produce eggs with an omega–

6 to omega–3 ratio of 1.5 to one, whereas commercial eggs (grain-fed)

have a ratio of 20 to one. Chicken's normal diet includes meat from

insects, bugs, worms, etc., like all birds, which influences the fats

and omega ratios in their meat and eggs.

> I think it's impossible to come across any non-grain fed here in

> Australia, due to the drought conditions. I've never seen it. But I

> have come across grass-fed lamb and beef.

>

> And last of all , thanks for helping everyone out with your time

and knowledge Bee. You're truly making a difference.

+++Thank you so much Denis. I am honored to be able to help.

Bee

[Guest guest]

anti-inflammatory substances- natural ones like EFA's, tumeric,

ginger,cayenne, bromelain, devil's claw..the list goes on if you

google natural arthritis treatments.

You want to reduce things that are causing the body to have too many

inflammatory properties. Andy has a lot in amalgam illness about this.

Also look at autoimmunity, food allergies. Gluten tends to be a huge

one for causing arthritis. So addressing those can make symptoms

better. Possibly even eliminate it. Also, in some of my reading I have

found that certain vaccines can cause arthritis, which tends to lead

me to think there may be viral causes behind the disease in some

people...so a trial with an antiviral...who knows. This goes along

with athritis being an autoimmune disease.

What do for the actual pain..capsicum cream, glucosamin-chrondroitin,

stinging nettle, avoid all hydrogenated fats and food chemicals. then

look at food allergies and get rid of those.

>

> what is the BEST thing in your opinion for REALLY painful arthritis???

>

[Guest guest]

If you want to see what we did you can go to my child's caringbridge.

www.caringbridge.org and her name is princess . High dose turmeric, Igg

food allergy panel from the great plains lab, eliminate highly reactive foods,

accupunture, chinese herbs, rebirthing, finding a very excellent homeopath,

homeopathic remedy, allergy drops from the naturopath, high dose virastop

protocol, nattokinaise aka natto-k, serrapepdidaise aka serra plus. off the top

of my head. We are checking into lymes therapy and then we also are hoping to

chelate. She takes cod liver oil, custom probiotics, and a lot of things.

Porter's milk cure was also beneficial, healthy fats like organic bacon do not

drain the fat off. The joints need healthy fats from foods. Weston A price style

diet is what we would do if we could afford it, and we make her bone broths. I

fed her kefired goat colostrum from a goat with CME (goat arthritis) for a long

time also.

[Guest guest]

.... and nordic omega 3 fish oil is an EFA, right?

On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Jan wrote:

> anti-inflammatory substances- natural ones like EFA's, tumeric,

> ginger,cayenne, bromelain, devil's claw..the list goes on if you

> google natural arthritis treatments.

>

> You want to reduce things that are causing the body to have too many

> inflammatory properties. Andy has a lot in amalgam illness about this.

> Also look at autoimmunity, food allergies. Gluten tends to be a huge

> one for causing arthritis. So addressing those can make symptoms

> better. Possibly even eliminate it. Also, in some of my reading I have

> found that certain vaccines can cause arthritis, which tends to lead

> me to think there may be viral causes behind the disease in some

> people...so a trial with an antiviral...who knows. This goes along

> with athritis being an autoimmune disease.

>

> What do for the actual pain..capsicum cream, glucosamin-chrondroitin,

> stinging nettle, avoid all hydrogenated fats and food chemicals. then

> look at food allergies and get rid of those.

>

>

> >

> > what is the BEST thing in your opinion for REALLY painful

> arthritis???

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My mom takes condroitin with glucosamine and MSM. The bottle says to take 2

3 times a day, but she only takes 1 twice a day, and her arthiritis pains

are in check. If she stops the pains come back. I think this is just

addressing the symptoms and not the cause, but it works for her. If it's a

true arthiritis then I haven't researched natural ways to reverse it.

[Guest guest]

>

> what is the BEST thing in your opinion for REALLY painful arthritis???

>

My opinion: Kill the infection(s) in the joint that cause it.

Anti-inflammatories are a good place to start, because getting

inflammation under control helps fight infection. But, in the long

term, killing infection has done the most good for my joint and tendon

problems. Calcium and gelatin supplements also helped.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

http://www.solanorail.org

[Guest guest]

I jsut read an article about gelatin and arthritis. Long, but interesting. I have heard of several people who have started taking gelatin and reduced arthritis by leaps and bounds. The part about not eating traditional foods really caught my attention. I used to chew on cartilege as a kid, chew off the ends of chicken bones, make soup of the front part of the beef - more connective tissues.

Anyone who says osteoarthritis is NOT inflammatory has never experienced it. Why do drs prescribe NSAIDs if it is not inflammatory?????

The herbal approach has a lot of merit. I took cinnamon for several days and got a lot of pain relief. However, I OD'ed on it and can't look it in the face now.

Gayla

Bob and Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo CA

[Guest guest]

The daily use of garlic, onion and lemon improves this condition according to some books I read. In addition, the juice of cabbage and carrot helps eliminate some acids.

To avoid animal flesh and refined products is also useful.

Re: Arthritis

A few years back I was diagnosed with OA in my spine. The x-rays were pretty bad. Now, I'm in physical therapy for RA in my hips, hands and shoulders. Not to mention the gout in my right foot.

So any information, documented or even anecdotal, regarding arthritis is appreciated. Most of the documented stuff I can and/or have found out for myself, but the anecdotal, the personal experiences are what I really appreciate.

What are the uses for gelatin and cinnamon?

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On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Gayla <aeranchgmail> wrote:

I jsut read an article about gelatin and arthritis. Long, but interesting. I have heard of several people who have started taking gelatin and reduced arthritis by leaps and bounds. The part about not eating traditional foods really caught my attention. I used to chew on cartilege as a kid, chew off the ends of chicken bones, make soup of the front part of the beef - more connective tissues.

Anyone who says osteoarthritis is NOT inflammatory has never experienced it. Why do drs prescribe NSAIDs if it is not inflammatory?????

The herbal approach has a lot of merit. I took cinnamon for several days and got a lot of pain relief. However, I OD'ed on it and can't look it in the face now.

Gayla

Bob and Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo CA

[Guest guest]

My dh takes a supplement daily which

combines turmeric, celery seed, bromelain, black cherry, and potassium.

He hasn’t had a gout attack in years now, ever since he started taking

it.

He’s also given it to people who

have arthritis or other inflammatory conditions and it’s helped them,

too.

Sharyn