Beans

[Guest guest]

Hi le -

I'm pretty sure that baked beans are loaded with sugar...at least the

ones that taste good

For beans, I like:

lentils

black beans

canneli beans

roman beans

chick peas/garbanzo beans

fava beans - though they are hard to find around here.

JeAnne

> Hey,

> Beans are listed as a carb in the book. Just wondering what kinds

of

> beans? I love baked beans but am guessing they probably aren't all

> that great for ya. Also, that bread y'all are talking about where

can

> I find it. They didn't have it at my grocery store. Anyways thanks

> for your help and hope y'all are having a perfect day.

> le (I'll go by this so we don't confuse all the Dani's

[Guest guest]

In NT Sally talks about the heat in canning the beans being to high

and damaging the nutritional value...

But I'm wondering if the dried beans can be soaked in water & whey

and then drained & frozen?

-- In , " cricjohnson "

<cricjohnson@y...> wrote:

> if i buy beans in the can, in water, are they considered soaked?

>

> the eden brand beans come in water and kombu (traditionally used

for

> soaking)

>

> does the fluid contain the phytates and enzyme inhibitors?

>

> cric johnson

[Guest guest]

Hi there again,

Beans, or legumes, such as navy beans, pinto beans, kidney beans,

lentils and similar beans are not good to have when you first start

on the diet. They are high in carbohydrate count which feeds the

candida. Beans that are good are green beans, or string beans.

High carbohydrate foods include starches and grains, i.e. breads,

pasta, pizza, cereals, baked goods, beans and potatoes. Some

vegetables are also high in carbohydrates, including beets, squash,

zucchini, corn, peas, parsnips, sweet potatoes, yams and carrots.

Later on in the candida program you can have some beans or legumes

but they must all be soaked properly ( " how to " is posted in the Files

on the left side-bar) and should small quantities.

I hope that answers your question okay.

Bee

> are beans okay to eat? If yes what kind are best?

[Guest guest]

I asked by naturopath about eating beans . This was her advice

Using packaged beans, soak them overnight. Next morning, drain the well.

Placing soaked paper towels, 3 sheets thich, lay it on a cookie sheet. Take the

soaked beans and lay them on the paper towels. Cover loosely.

If a few days they will start to sprout.

Cook the sprouted beans normally.

By allowing them to sprout you are getting rid of a lot of the sugar inside the

beans.

Hope this ehlps you

Pam

[ ] Re: die-off symptoms and diet

>>>i got the complete candidiasis guidebook at the library and these

foods (from message below) are what the author says I should be

eating. what's the real story on food?

===>I'm not familiar with the guidebook but most candida diets get a

number of things incorrect because of false information and hype by

the food industry, medicine and drug companies. Most don't recommend

enough " good " animal proteins or " good " saturated fats as defined in

my article. They also allow some foods I am reluctant to recommend,

like beans. The reason I am reluctant is because most people will

not prepare them properly by soaking. Beans, grains, nuts and seeds

must all be soaked in order to remove mineral blocking phytates.

This is very important because they stop the absorption of minerals

in the digestive tract, and minerals are the basic building blocks of

the body.

===>Beans are also a starch which acts like sugar in the body, i.e.

raising the glycemic index, requiring insulin production, and feeding

candida. That coupled with the need to soak them makes them a less

desireable food for candida sufferers.

>>>for example dinner tonight had the main ingredients of homemade

salsa, zucchini, and kidney beans. Am I misunderstanding what you

wrote? Because the way I read it, I ate " sugar " for dinner and fed

my yeasties. Also, have been eating brown rice. How does that rate?

===>The small amount of sugar in kidney beans wouldn't be a hugh

problem, but not soaking them is a bigger problem, plus the starch

content. Brown Rice is a better choice because even without soaking

the longer cooking time removes some phytates. But rice should be

cooked up to 2 hours to be remoe all of the phytates, or soaked and

cooked for less time.

===>Kidney beans contain incomplete proteins (amino acids) and to

obtain complete proteins in one meal they need to be eaten with

something like rice. Animal meats are the best source of protein,

and also contain very important nutrients like B12, essential fatty

acids and good fats that cannot be obtained from any vegetable

sources.

===>Are you trying to stick to a vegan diet? If you are, please read

the article in the links in the left side-bar called " Myths About

Vegetarianism " by Byrnes.

I hope that helps.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Salt peter is sodium nitrate --that must not be what you mean.

And this is what I found about pea beans:

pea bean

The smallest of the dried white beans, the others being NAVY, GREAT NORTHERN and

MARROW BEANS (in order of ascending size). Pea beans are very popular in the

Northeast and are the first choice for BOSTON BAKED BEANS. Some producers and

packagers do not differentiate between pea beans and navy beans, so packages

identified as white beans may contain both. Pea beans are also used in soups.

They require long, slow cooking.

Gretchen

----- Original Message -----

Does anyone know of another name for " pea " beans? I am wanting to make Boston

baked beans and these are a substitute for the navy beans that are an avoid.

Could salt peter replace the bacon?

Thanks, Michele

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/22/2005 6:48:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mtownsend29@... writes:

Guess salt peter is not what I was thinking of. Is there a beef fat that

could replace the bacon in Boston baked beans? Also, since navy beans are an

avoid and northern beans are neutral, as are white beans, where would pea beans

fall and what are the differences??

Why not just use pork fat? It isn't that much. If you can't find out about

the pea beans, why not try them and see how they make you feel. If you don't

know, assume the food is a neutral.

I know that I made " Navy bean soup " using Great northern beans and it was

great. Made chili with pinto beans instead of kidney beans and it was great.

Both used to give me awful heartburn as a kid but with those minor changes, I

felt great.

[Guest guest]

Guess salt peter is not what I was thinking of. Is there a beef fat that could

replace the bacon in Boston baked beans? Also, since navy beans are an avoid

and northern beans are neutral, as are white beans, where would pea beans fall

and what are the differences?? Not too many questions, hmm. Trying to make

type O Boston baked beans!

Hugs, Michele

----- Original Message -----

From: mcpherson.bg@... Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 3:53 PM

Salt peter is sodium nitrate --that must not be what you mean.

And this is what I found about pea beans:

pea bean

The smallest of the dried white beans, the others being NAVY, GREAT NORTHERN

and MARROW BEANS (in order of ascending size). Pea beans are very popular in the

Northeast and are the first choice for BOSTON BAKED BEANS. Some producers and

packagers do not differentiate between pea beans and navy beans, so packages

identified as white beans may contain both. Pea beans are also used in soups.

They require long, slow cooking.

Gretchen

[Guest guest]

www.grasslandbeef.com has beef bacon.

Re: beans

Guess salt peter is not what I was thinking of. Is there a beef fat that

could replace the bacon in Boston baked beans? Also, since navy beans are an

avoid and northern beans are neutral, as are white beans, where would pea beans

fall and what are the differences?? Not too many questions, hmm. Trying to

make type O Boston baked beans!

Hugs, Michele

----- Original Message -----

From: mcpherson.bg@... Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 3:53 PM

Salt peter is sodium nitrate --that must not be what you mean.

And this is what I found about pea beans:

pea bean

The smallest of the dried white beans, the others being NAVY, GREAT NORTHERN

and MARROW BEANS (in order of ascending size). Pea beans are very popular in the

Northeast and are the first choice for BOSTON BAKED BEANS. Some producers and

packagers do not differentiate between pea beans and navy beans, so packages

identified as white beans may contain both. Pea beans are also used in soups.

They require long, slow cooking.

Gretchen

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/22/2005 10:16:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mcpherson.bg@... writes:

Max, are you sure you didn't mean *kidney instead of pinto*? Aren't pintos

avoids, but kidneys neutral for us?

Kidney beans are an avoid. Pinto beans are a neutral for non-secreters.

[Guest guest]

Max, are you sure you didn't mean *kidney instead of pinto*? Aren't pintos

avoids, but kidneys neutral for us?

I would use the pork fat, too....I can't imagine anything replacing that

flavor.

Gretchen

----- Original Message -----

Made chili with pinto beans instead of kidney beans and it was great.

[Guest guest]

oops...I must have been confused with the type B's I have to cook for....now as

I look at the typebase I remember: the pintos are avoids for our whole

family--and that's what my guys like.

----- Original Message -----

From: Maddviking@...

mcpherson.bg@... writes:

Max, are you sure you didn't mean *kidney instead of pinto*? Aren't pintos

avoids, but kidneys neutral for us?

Kidney beans are an avoid. Pinto beans are a neutral for non-secreters.

[Guest guest]

And an avoid for Secretors.

Re: beans

In a message dated 4/22/2005 10:16:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mcpherson.bg@... writes:

Max, are you sure you didn't mean *kidney instead of pinto*? Aren't pintos

avoids, but kidneys neutral for us?

Kidney beans are an avoid. Pinto beans are a neutral for non-secreters.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/23/2005 10:34:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cbeseler@... writes:

I have used adzuki beans and really love them in baked beans. My shiatsu

practitioner

clals them " little packets of chi " , says they have great energy for the

organs...and unless

my info has gotten old, they are a beneficial for Os.

Do you fix them with onions and butter or what?

[Guest guest]

I have used adzuki beans and really love them in baked beans. My shiatsu

practitioner

clals them " little packets of chi " , says they have great energy for the

organs...and unless

my info has gotten old, they are a beneficial for Os.

Trying to make type O Boston baked beans!

> Hugs, Michele

>

[Guest guest]

Please give your recipe. I've avoided baked beans to make sure I didn't eat an

avoid. Now if I made my own out of what I know I can eat, I can take that and be

sure I can eat it.

Re: beans

I have used adzuki beans and really love them in baked beans. My shiatsu

practitioner

clals them " little packets of chi " , says they have great energy for the

organs...and unless

my info has gotten old, they are a beneficial for Os.

Trying to make type O Boston baked beans!

> Hugs, Michele

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, adzuki beans, I even have some of those, did they taste ok? are you talking

about baked beans with the brown sugar and molasses? that would be perfect.

got a recipe?

Hugs, Michele

----- Original Message -----

From: Beseler Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:34 PM

I have used adzuki beans and really love them in baked beans. My shiatsu

practitioner

clals them " little packets of chi " , says they have great energy for the

organs...and unless

my info has gotten old, they are a beneficial for Os.

[Guest guest]

> Aren't pintos avoids, but kidneys neutral for us?

If I remember correctly, pintos are avoids for secretors, but are

neutral or possibly beneficial for nonnies.

-Robin

[Guest guest]

Per type Base 4, pinto beans are neutral for nonnies and avoid for secretors.

Re: Re: beans

In a message dated 4/25/2005 10:53:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mtnmusicmama@... writes:

If I remember correctly, pintos are avoids for secretors, but are

neutral or possibly beneficial for nonnies.

Zachery right. Beneficial for nonnies. Make great refried beans.

[Guest guest]

Beans are unique in that they have a combination of carbohydrate and

protein, but these carbs are quite complex. I believe that the " no

sugars and starches " rule for phase three is really telling us to avoid

the simple sugars, and the starches that quickly turn into simple sugars

(no potatos!!). I'd include beans, peas and other legumes if you want

them... they probably have fewer carbs than the cucumbers and

tomatoes that I've been eating in phase 2....

Just be sure you don't spice up the " baked beans " or other bean dishes

with molasses or ketchup, which are simple carbohydrates and should be

avoided..

Just my opinion!

Jane

>

> We are on Phase 3 which says no starch -- does that include beans?

>

[Guest guest]

Crayfish you can't be the worst cook, I live next door to her! Do

you see any mold? How do they smell? How long ago did you put them

in water & did you use whey?

If they still smell okay I would eat them (if I saw no mold).

HTH,

Sal

I am the worst cook and I have only made beans one other time a long

time ago. I am making them right now and I had soaked these guys but

didn't use enough water and all the water was soaked up when I went to

rinse them. I don't know when and how long they have been sitting

there without water covering them. Could eating them pose any health

risk to me like from mold or anything?

[Guest guest]

I didn't see mold but I wasn't looking at every bean and I didn't

think to smell it. I didn't use whey but lime juice and I already

cooked them.

And I am the worst cook. For example, I rarely come across fatty

bacon at whole foods and finally by the luck of the draw I had some

and I burnt it this morning! I suck. If you lived next door to me, I

would outdo your neighbor. You'd smell burnt stuff a lot or worse, I'd

be knocking on your door everyday with questions.

>

>

> Crayfish you can't be the worst cook, I live next door to her! Do

> you see any mold? How do they smell? How long ago did you put them

> in water & did you use whey?

> If they still smell okay I would eat them (if I saw no mold).

> HTH,

> Sal

>

> I am the worst cook and I have only made beans one other time a long

> time ago. I am making them right now and I had soaked these guys but

> didn't use enough water and all the water was soaked up when I went to

> rinse them. I don't know when and how long they have been sitting

> there without water covering them. Could eating them pose any health

> risk to me like from mold or anything?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Big Grin Crayfish,

I think if they had molded you would see it all across the top of

the bowl, so how did they taste?

You burned fatty bacon? Okay, you can call yourself the worst cook-

for NOW. As you get going on this you will find it much easier to

cook good meals, and I hope you find it to be a lot of fun too!

Sal!

Who thinks this might be as close as one can get to knocking on the

door and asking questions regularly, and I love all of the different

perspectives on the same topic.

didn't see mold but I wasn't looking at every bean and I didn't

think to smell it. I didn't use whey but lime juice and I already

cooked them.

And I am the worst cook. For example, I rarely come across fatty

bacon at whole foods and finally by the luck of the draw I had some

and I burnt it this morning! I suck. If you lived next door to me, I

would outdo your neighbor. You'd smell burnt stuff a lot or worse, I'd

be knocking on your door everyday with questions.

[Guest guest]

> And I am the worst cook. For example, I rarely come across fatty

> bacon at whole foods and finally by the luck of the draw I had some

> and I burnt it this morning! I suck. If you lived next door to me, I

> would outdo your neighbor. You'd smell burnt stuff a lot or worse,

> I'd

> be knocking on your door everyday with questions.

Maybe we could have a club. I have learned to not screw things up after

a very long learning curve and now i can make some things, but my

natural inclinations " scared " my chef boyfriend with the combinations I

would come up with. And one time my DD came in with a boyfriend and he

just burst out, " what is that smell! it's like portapotty curry " and my

DD said, " that's my mom's cooking "

hang in there, some of us just have a weird slant on what we do in the

kitchen (what distracted you on the bacon for example? LOL)

Connie

[Guest guest]

--- Connie <cbrown2008@...> wrote:

> Maybe we could have a club. I have learned to not screw things up

> after a very long learning curve and now i can make some things, but

> my natural inclinations " scared " my chef boyfriend with the

> combinations I would come up with. And one time my DD came in with a

> boyfriend and he just burst out, " what is that smell! it's like

> portapotty curry " and my DD said, " that's my mom's cooking "

LOL! Connie, I'd have to join the club. My wife and daughter won't

touch anything I make. I like to cook ground lamb and I break it into

meat ball sized chunks while it's cooking. My wife tells my daughter

I'm cooking " lamb balls " and they both laugh!

Here's what it looks like cooking:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/oz4caster/2378226325/in/pool-

Fortunately, some of us are good cooks and here's some examples:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/ /pool/page3/

Those of you good cooks out there, be sure and add your photos to the

NN Flickr pool, to help inspire those of us who are cooking-challenged.

And my daughter asks me to hide my kefir on the counter when her

friends come over

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

>

> Are black beans and red beans good for the Candida diet? Because my doctor

gave me a print out and said red and black beans were good..but I read online

that they werent..also he told me coffee was ok..different websites say

different things..he also told me organic peanbut butter was good for the

diet???

>

No, beans are not allowed on a Candida diet. Nor is caffeinated coffe.

It is very confusing how much conflicting information is available from a lot of

different sources. You can be assured that you've to a place where you can get

clear answers. A lot of people have been healed on this plan when other plans

did not work.

Please ensure you read two important articles, so you understand candida, and

know what you need to do and why:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida

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http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started

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be well,

Jackie