Tea

[Guest guest]

I am not drinking any kind of anything except water and skim milk. I am

looking for something safe to drink without sugar or caffeine. I may want to

add a little sweetner to it tho. I drank decaf tea for a while, but it gave me

a constant small annoying headache, or else it was the saccharin I was drinking

in it that gave me the headache. Anyway I quit drinking all of it. Lynn

Ceallachqn@... wrote:

> From: Ceallachqn@...

>

> Hi Lynn,

> Dandelion tea also helps the liver detox. It does not contain caffeine. I

> hate to tell you, but if you are drinking green tea, you are also drinking

> caffeine.

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

What is wrong with a little caffeine?

J

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>From: Lynn <CEN32195@...>

>

>I am not drinking any kind of anything except water and skim milk. I am

>looking for something safe to drink without sugar or caffeine. I may want

>to

>add a little sweetner to it tho. I drank decaf tea for a while, but it

>gave me

>a constant small annoying headache, or else it was the saccharin I was

>drinking

>in it that gave me the headache. Anyway I quit drinking all of it. Lynn

>

>Ceallachqn@... wrote:

>

> > From: Ceallachqn@...

> >

> > Hi Lynn,

> > Dandelion tea also helps the liver detox. It does not contain caffeine.

> I

> > hate to tell you, but if you are drinking green tea, you are also

>drinking

> > caffeine.

> >

> > ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Gee, , and I thought you just blew us off on this recipe! Thank you - I

intend to try this out because I recall you stating there were remarkable

benefits. But I honestly forgot what they were! : could you tell us again,

please?

(Also, did you have to be so technical? A " tea thingy " ?) LOL :>)

Thanks again.

Babs

RA 8/98, DX 4/99, AP 11/99

200 mg. Minocin

112 mcg. Synthroid

2 mg. Hytrin

10 mg. Lipitor

Mestinon

Vits. & Misc. Suplmts.

[Guest guest]

> Gee, , and I thought you just blew us off on this recipe! Thank you -

I

> intend to try this out because I recall you stating there were remarkable

> benefits. But I honestly forgot what they were! : could you tell us

again,

> please?

It tastes good LOL

> (Also, did you have to be so technical? A " tea thingy " ?) LOL :>)

> Thanks again.

Yea that tea screen thingy

> Babs

> RA 8/98, DX 4/99, AP 11/99

> 200 mg. Minocin

> 112 mcg. Synthroid

> 2 mg. Hytrin

> 10 mg. Lipitor

> Mestinon

> Vits. & Misc. Suplmts.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Please excuse my ignorance of natural supplements, but why did you

choose the ones you did for your tea?What are they supposed to do? Also,

I sometimes hear that natural things can cause just as much trouble or at

least, be as strong as allopathic drugs. How do you know it is safe to

combine these things and how do they taste? How much of this tea do you

drink?

Thank you very much,

Gloria

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> Dear ,

> Please excuse my ignorance of natural supplements, but why did you

> choose the ones you did for your tea?What are they supposed to do? Also,

> I sometimes hear that natural things can cause just as much trouble or at

> least, be as strong as allopathic drugs. How do you know it is safe to

> combine these things and how do they taste?

Not here, but just wanted to give some input as I have used most of

these. They are all Generally Recognized As Safe, with the exception of

prolonged or copious use of Licorice Root in persons with high blood

pressure and diabetes, and Alfalfa for those with lupus (contains an

ingredient which may exacerbate lupus with excessive exposure). Here are

some of the properties, as I remember them, though there may be others:

Fenugreek, anti-inflammatory, soothing to digestive tract

Flax seeds, rich in omega 6, anti-inflammatory

Fennel, soothing to digestive tract (anti-gas action)

Peppermint, soothing to digestive tract and lungs, helps break fevers

Licorice root, anti-inflammatory (prolongs circulation of cortisol in blood)

soothing to all mucous membranes, expectorant action, use with caution in

hypertension or diabetes.

Nettles, anti-inflammatory, acts as counter-irritant if used topically for

pain, rich in minerals

Alfalfa, anti-inflammatory, rich in minerals, use with caution in lupus

Hope this helps, Liz G

[Guest guest]

Ok, let put post a disclaimer. Make sure all of the ingredients are

compatible with your condition and medications.

I will say since your not taking a concentrated amount and each ingredient

is 1/7 of the total its probably safe for everybody. If alfalfa is a concern

maybe exchanging it for green tea might work.

Re: rheumatic Tea

>

>

> > Dear ,

> > Please excuse my ignorance of natural supplements, but why did you

> > choose the ones you did for your tea?What are they supposed to do?

Also,

> > I sometimes hear that natural things can cause just as much trouble or

at

> > least, be as strong as allopathic drugs. How do you know it is safe to

> > combine these things and how do they taste?

>

> Not here, but just wanted to give some input as I have used most of

> these. They are all Generally Recognized As Safe, with the exception of

> prolonged or copious use of Licorice Root in persons with high blood

> pressure and diabetes, and Alfalfa for those with lupus (contains an

> ingredient which may exacerbate lupus with excessive exposure). Here are

> some of the properties, as I remember them, though there may be others:

>

> Fenugreek, anti-inflammatory, soothing to digestive tract

> Flax seeds, rich in omega 6, anti-inflammatory

> Fennel, soothing to digestive tract (anti-gas action)

> Peppermint, soothing to digestive tract and lungs, helps break fevers

> Licorice root, anti-inflammatory (prolongs circulation of cortisol in

blood)

> soothing to all mucous membranes, expectorant action, use with caution in

> hypertension or diabetes.

> Nettles, anti-inflammatory, acts as counter-irritant if used topically for

> pain, rich in minerals

> Alfalfa, anti-inflammatory, rich in minerals, use with caution in lupus

>

> Hope this helps, Liz G

>

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> Dear ,

> Please excuse my ignorance of natural supplements, but why did you

> choose the ones you did for your tea?

I didnt choose them. This recipe is stolen. Someone was selling it as

" polarity tea "

>What are they supposed to do?

Taste good, LOL. I make no warrenty implied or expressed.

>Also,I sometimes hear that natural things can cause just as much trouble or

at least, be as strong as allopathic drugs.

Im sure thats true but not with these ingrediants. This is a tasty tea with

no caffine.

>How do you know it is safe to combine these things and how do they taste?

How >much of this tea do you drink?

A cup a day. I cant describe the taste but it requires no sugar, its not

bitter. I drink it and my sister does too occasionally and were still alive!

This tea is sold as Polarity tea and i was able to get the recipe.

> Thank you very much,

> Gloria

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Dear Liz,

Thanks for the information. Do you think alfalfa could bring on or

cause Lupus in someone with RA?

love,

Gloria

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Hi Gloria! Geoff Crenshaw here.

> Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:53:33 -0500

> From: Gloria M Tate <missgloria@...>

> Subject: Re: Tea

> I sometimes hear that natural things can cause just as much trouble or

at

> least, be as strong as allopathic drugs. How do you know it is safe

to

> combine these things

There are two very hand books that help with these issues...

The PDR for Herbal Medicines

came out last year or two - was at Costco

(and)

The A-Z Guide to Drug-Herb-Vitamin Interactions

came out this year - also at Costco

HTH!

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[Guest guest]

judy, i am atea drinker too . my husband thinks that is what keeps me alive.

a good cup of tea is good for my soul. anyway from what i have read green tea

is loadeded withantioxidants....vitamins a,c, and e. regular tea is also but

ot as much. they have done studies on green tea and there are indications

that it does indeed help prevent arthritis so i imagine it would help us

poor souls with arthritis . it has also been show to be a cancer preventative

and a help .with lowering blood pressure .and lowering cholesterol. you

mustdrink at least 2 cups a day. anyway its not good for guys with prostate

problems the in the tea wreaks havoc with prostate problems . anyway keep

drinking your tea its good for yoy especially the green tea!

cathy from mass

[Guest guest]

--- judy malone <judy_malone@...> wrote:

> Green Tea, Good or Bad? Does any other Tea help in

> your opinion?

Hi -- one-footed here. I drink green tea every

day. I have a teapot in my office and it is my

refreshment of choice. It's yummy. But I don't think

it affects my arthritis one way or the other any

little bit at all.

Limping , North Jersey Highlands

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Judy,

I like green tea also...I don't notice one way or the other. I'm a tea drinker

also...I like herbal teas...my favorite is strawberry (loose leaf) That is even

good iced. When I had bad upper resp. infection I was told to drink some

raspberry tea...I felt better but think it was mental...my nose began to run

though. But that happens when you eat soup too. HA!

[Guest guest]

Hi Kate,

I am interested to know more about any kinds of tea that might help improve

my health too. I have a whole cupboard stocked with every kind of tea

imaginable, but I know there are so many more other kinds out there that I

haven't tried. I used to drink tea every day, never have been much of a

coffee drinker which I am thankful for these days as most people here report

that caffeine is bad for thyroid patients! Let us know if you find any teas

worth trying! Plus I'd really like to know if green tea is not reccomded

for GD patients. I hadn't heard anything but I am still new to this whole

thing and don't have much time to research as my two little boys keep me

busy!

Jen in Canada

P.S Are there any others like me out there who are trying to cut back on

their coke or pepsi consumption? I've been doing not too badly. But I

really DO love my coke!

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen in Canada

Did you know that pepsi now distributes a 'caffeine free' product. Not too bad,

either. Looks just like the regular can but has gold coloured ring around the

top.

Guess we'll have to wait to hear about tea....

Kate also in Canada

Brett & Jen Howie wrote:

> Hi Kate,

>

> I am interested to know more about any kinds of tea that might help improve

> my health too. I have a whole cupboard stocked with every kind of tea

> imaginable, but I know there are so many more other kinds out there that I

> haven't tried. I used to drink tea every day, never have been much of a

> coffee drinker which I am thankful for these days as most people here report

> that caffeine is bad for thyroid patients! Let us know if you find any teas

> worth trying! Plus I'd really like to know if green tea is not reccomded

> for GD patients. I hadn't heard anything but I am still new to this whole

> thing and don't have much time to research as my two little boys keep me

> busy!

>

> Jen in Canada

>

> P.S Are there any others like me out there who are trying to cut back on

> their coke or pepsi consumption? I've been doing not too badly. But I

> really DO love my coke!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you are worried about the caffeine in green tea, they do make one without

it... Alvita has one, and so does Lipton.... Chris

[Guest guest]

Hello to Kate and Jen!

I too am avoiding caffeine...and oh do I love my tim

hortons coffee with the caffeine!!! So now I am

drinking one coffee a day....decaffeinated! And

staying away from pop, tea and chocolate which all

have caffeine in them...it certainly helps as I have

noticed..and since I have GD...I am willing to do

almost anything to keep healthily.

Dianna from Belleville, Ontario

PS....

My THS was 65+ (off the scale) prior to RAI in July,

2001 and now my THS is at 6 (normal ranges are between

9 to 23 as I am told by my family doctor) so

medication will be in order by the specialist when I

see him next week..Feeling tired by the end of the

day...and have gained a little of the weight that I

lost (80 pounds). I look like me again and not

like a survivor from the Nazi camps as that was the

only description that I could tell one on how much

weight I had lost prior to treatment.

PPS...

So life goes on and I am thankful I am still

here...especially with all that has happened since

September 11th!! To all our American friends....hoping

all of you are feeling safe and secure and God Bless

America! Thank God for President Bush!!

--- Brett & Jen Howie <bj.howie@...> wrote:

> Hi Kate,

>

> I am interested to know more about any kinds of tea

> that might help improve

> my health too. I have a whole cupboard stocked with

> every kind of tea

> imaginable, but I know there are so many more other

> kinds out there that I

> haven't tried. I used to drink tea every day, never

> have been much of a

> coffee drinker which I am thankful for these days as

> most people here report

> that caffeine is bad for thyroid patients! Let us

> know if you find any teas

> worth trying! Plus I'd really like to know if green

> tea is not reccomded

> for GD patients. I hadn't heard anything but I am

> still new to this whole

> thing and don't have much time to research as my two

> little boys keep me

> busy!

>

> Jen in Canada

>

> P.S Are there any others like me out there who are

> trying to cut back on

> their coke or pepsi consumption? I've been doing

> not too badly. But I

> really DO love my coke!

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Kate,

Where are you from? I've met about five other Canadians from this

group(hyperT) as well as the thyroid group. I've tried the Pepsi

Decaf. It's not too bad. I wish I could give up any kind of pop

alltogether!

Jen in Saskatchewan

(waiting to find out if I have Graves or not)

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

I think you will find your Diet Pepsi uses Aspartame as its sweetener. This artificial sweetener from Monsato has been linked to numerous diseases and symptoms. Please check out this article by Dr. Lendon . There is more, much more on Aspartame. http://web2.iadfw.net/marystod/smith.html

Re: tea

That's me! That's my first choice; Caffeine-Free Diet Pepsi. It's sort of funny, too, because I've just recently gotten back in touch with a very good friend (and shirt-tail relative) that I grew up with. Turns out, that's her favorite soft drink, as well! Her words were, "That's so eerie! What are the chances of that happening?" We really were very different people when we were growing up; I assume that's why we drifted apart after high school. But now that we're all grown up we're finding that we've got an awful lot in common. I'm sure we've all found that at one time or another with someone that we know, though. Just wanted to share my warm fuzzy! Another thing's been nagging at my brain lately. Wonder if anyone's got any input? I've needed to take a water pill (Aldactazide) for the last few years. If I stop taking it, my body swells up like crazy. My legs start to feel like Eckrich Sausages and my feet and hands look like I'm related to the Cabbage Patch Kids! This morning my eyelids are threatening to take over my face and it made me wonder. Might this have something to do with the Thyroidism? Or is it just because I can't seem to leave the soda alone? I don't salt my food nor do I add it in when cooking, usually. I don't eat a lot of salt, ie., potato chips, pretzels, bacon (Oh, GAWD! I learned my lesson with bacon!!), ham...that sort of thing. Any ideas? Donna http://trak.to/life www.reliv.com Take control of your health! Donna http://trak.to/life www.reliv.com Take control of your health! Kate Fraser wrote: Hi Jen in Canada Did you know that pepsi now distributes a 'caffeine free' product. Not too bad, either. Looks just like the regular can but has gold coloured ring around the top. Guess we'll have to wait to hear about tea.... Kate also in Canada Brett & Jen Howie wrote: > Hi Kate, > > I am interested to know more about any kinds of tea that might help improve > my health too. I have a whole cupboard stocked with every kind of tea > imaginable, but I know there are so many more other kinds out there that I > haven't tried. I used to drink tea every day, never have been much of a > coffee drinker which I am thankful for these days as most people here report > that caffeine is bad for thyroid patients! Let us know if you find any teas > worth trying! Plus I'd really like to know if green tea is not reccomded > for GD patients. I hadn't heard anything but I am still new to this whole > thing and don't have much time to research as my two little boys keep me > busy! > > Jen in Canada > > P.S Are there any others like me out there who are trying to cut back on > their coke or pepsi consumption? I've been doing not too badly. But I > really DO love my coke! > > > > >

[Guest guest]

That's me! That's my first choice; Caffeine-Free Diet Pepsi.

It's sort of funny, too, because I've just recently gotten back in touch

with a very good friend (and shirt-tail relative) that I grew up with.

Turns out, that's her favorite soft drink, as well! Her words were,

"That's so eerie! What are the chances of that happening?"

We really were very different people when we were growing up; I assume

that's why we drifted apart after high school. But now that we're

all grown up we're finding that we've got an awful lot in common.

I'm sure we've all found that at one time or another with someone that

we know, though. Just wanted to share my warm fuzzy!

Another thing's been nagging at my brain lately. Wonder if anyone's

got any input? I've needed to take a water pill (Aldactazide) for

the last few years. If I stop taking it, my body swells up like crazy.

My legs start to feel like Eckrich Sausages and my feet and hands look

like I'm related to the Cabbage Patch Kids! This morning my eyelids

are threatening to take over my face and it made me wonder. Might

this have something to do with the Thyroidism? Or is it just because

I can't seem to leave the soda alone? I don't salt my food nor do

I add it in when cooking, usually. I don't eat a lot of salt, ie.,

potato chips, pretzels, bacon (Oh, GAWD! I learned my lesson with

bacon!!), ham...that sort of thing. Any ideas?

Donna

http://trak.to/life

www.reliv.com

Take control of your health!

Donna

http://trak.to/life

www.reliv.com

Take control of your health!

Kate Fraser wrote:

Hi Jen in Canada

Did you know that pepsi now distributes a 'caffeine free' product.

Not too bad,

either. Looks just like the regular can but has gold coloured

ring around the

top.

Guess we'll have to wait to hear about tea....

Kate also in Canada

Brett & Jen Howie wrote:

> Hi Kate,

>

> I am interested to know more about any kinds of tea that might

help improve

> my health too. I have a whole cupboard stocked with every

kind of tea

> imaginable, but I know there are so many more other kinds out

there that I

> haven't tried. I used to drink tea every day, never have

been much of a

> coffee drinker which I am thankful for these days as most people

here report

> that caffeine is bad for thyroid patients! Let us know

if you find any teas

> worth trying! Plus I'd really like to know if green tea

is not reccomded

> for GD patients. I hadn't heard anything but I am still

new to this whole

> thing and don't have much time to research as my two little boys

keep me

> busy!

>

> Jen in Canada

>

> P.S Are there any others like me out there who are trying

to cut back on

> their coke or pepsi consumption? I've been doing not too

badly. But I

> really DO love my coke!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks that's great to know. I did enjoy green tea before I found out

about it's caffeine content....

Kate

Ccherblady@... wrote:

> If you are worried about the caffeine in green tea, they do make one without

> it... Alvita has one, and so does Lipton.... Chris

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen

I'm from a small Ontario town called Cambridge. Not the place to try to get

up-to-date information etc. I've found. Thank heavens for all the web sites.

As for the pepsi, I drink it once in a while, I drink decaf coffee sometimes,

juice sometimes and mostly water, water, water. I should just float away, I

think. Apparently I positively have to avoid caffeine like the plague. But

I'm back gaining weight again and really discouraged about that. Maybe it's

just the rainy day!

Kate

Brett & Jen Howie wrote:

> Hi Kate,

>

> Where are you from? I've met about five other Canadians from this

> group(hyperT) as well as the thyroid group. I've tried the Pepsi

> Decaf. It's not too bad. I wish I could give up any kind of pop

> alltogether!

>

> Jen in Saskatchewan

> (waiting to find out if I have Graves or not)

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kate,

I had been following the posts and when I saw diet, could not help myself. I agree, it is hard to find any food without it. There is a company called Optimum Nutrition that makes its money on healh food that puts it in their Whey Protein product. I found this out when a flavor option to Vanilla was natural (no aspartame) Vanilla. This product was not much better as it contained Acesulfame Potassium or Acesulfame K as the sweetener.

Re: tea>> That's me! That's my first choice; Caffeine-Free Diet Pepsi. It's sort of funny, too, because I've just recently gotten back in touch with a very

[Guest guest]

Hi - thought we were discussing decaffeinated pepsi. I just went back

and you're right - Donna did say 'Caffeine Free Diet Pepsi'. I haven't seen any

around. I agree aspertame is bad bad stuff. But have you tried to find any

chewing gum without it or sugar?

Kate

galdalf wrote:

> Hi Donna,

> I think you will find your Diet Pepsi uses Aspartame as its sweetener. This

artificial sweetener from Monsato has been linked to numerous diseases and

symptoms. Please check out this article by Dr. Lendon . There is more, much

more on Aspartame. http://web2.iadfw.net/marystod/smith.html

>

> Re: tea

>

> That's me! That's my first choice; Caffeine-Free Diet Pepsi. It's sort of

funny, too, because I've just recently gotten back in touch with a very

[Guest guest]

Hi Kate,

Tea contains less caffeine that coffee and green tea has the least

of the three major types. Black tea first, then Oolong, finally

green. Yerba Mate has no caffeine though sometimes is accused of

having it. Here is a quote from Mowry Phd.

" The xanthines draw a lot of attention because they number among

them some traditional nasties, chief of which is caffeine. Others are

theophylline and theobromine. All of the xanthines have a similar

stereo-chemistry but each has its own unique set of properties. For

many years, and even now, in some sectors, yerbamate' was (is)

thought to contain caffeine. It turns out that mateine is not

identical to caffeine; it differs from caffeine in some rather

dramatic ways. Some members of the scientific community still resort

to calling mateine a South American term for caffeine, or to

maintaining, in perfect knowledge of the falseness of the assertion,

that two substances so similar chemically must have the same

properties. Slowly, they are being forced to acknowledge the

distinction between mateine and caffeine. "

The URL is http://www.healthfree.com/herbgarden/yerbaxan.htm

I bought some Mate along with the gourd and straw after finding

mentioned in a Shomon column. I have read the flavor is somewhat

like Alfalfa. Don't know but it is a little like straw. The South

Americans where this is grown mix stevia in with it to sweeten the

taste. I tried mixing it with stevia herb and the taste is not half

bad. I bought a second type of Mate also. This is ground really fine

for making in an automatic coffee maker. I measured the amount the

same as coffee and added a 1/2 teaspoon of stevia leaf powder. This

tasted really good. The brands I got were really reasonable through

Ma-tea http://ma-tea.com/products.htm The brands I got were monte

(traditional) and Sara (coffee maker).

Have also been making herbal teas. You can get the bulk herbs from

several places mail order at resonable rates and blend your own.

Recently Lemon Balm, Motherwort, Dandelion root and Bilberry have all

been mentioned so I ordered them all. 4oz of each came to $20

shipped. They came in today from Herbgarden http://www.herbgarden.com

and I am having a cup made with all the ingredients plus stevia herb.

Tastes great, good for Graves and vision and has no caffeine. Good

luck with your tea making.

> Something new.

>

> I am trying to take the best of what our western traditional

medicine

> offers and improve my quality of life in other minor ways as well.

> I am in the midst of looking at teas. There are so many available

> around the world and at our door step. I believe that somewhere I

camp

> upon the suggestion that green tea is not good for GD people. Does

> anyone know anything about that? I have purchased some Mate to

try. If

> I get more energy I will certainly report it. What other teas has

> everyone tried? Any successes? Any rejects?

>

> Kate