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From: Yeah Right <ok_fine@...>Subject: juice hellhealth Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 11:06 PM

I was very disappointed when I read the label of a well known juice. Iwas buying Ocean Spray Cranberry Juice and their Cranberry Pomegranate.The first ingredient was filtered water followed by grape juice. I wasbuying grape juice. Didn't there use to be laws about labels that namenad to be on the top of the list, so the first ingredient should havebeen cranberry not grape?Looking at other labels, I saw some started with apple. I'm thinkingthey are taking whatever is cheap for the main filler and limiting themore expensive items, and cheating on the label/name thing.All in all I ma disgusted, trying to be healthy and finding I've beensuckered.-- No sig line is too small.Facebook is evil.Rent this space.

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Most first ingredient of this junk is High Fructose Corn Syrup. BIG Yuck!

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I was very disappointed when I read the label of a well known juice. Iwas buying Ocean Spray Cranberry Juice and their Cranberry Pomegranate.The first ingredient was filtered water followed by grape juice. I wasbuying grape juice. Didn't there use to be laws about labels that namenad to be on the top of the list, so the first ingredient should havebeen cranberry not grape?Looking at other labels, I saw some started with apple. I'm thinkingthey are taking whatever is cheap for the main filler and limiting themore expensive items, and cheating on the label/name thing.All in all I ma disgusted, trying to be healthy and finding I've beensuckered.-- No sig line is too small.Facebook is evil.Rent this space.

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Just drink real whole leaf green tea w/honey & cinnamon. You can even add a spirit or 2 in there. Greg.

From: Yeah Right <ok_finegra (DOT) midco.net>Subject: [HAWK_Health_ Awareness] juice hellHAWK_Health_ AwarenessDate: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 11:06 PM

I was very disappointed when I read the label of a well known juice. Iwas buying Ocean Spray Cranberry Juice and their Cranberry Pomegranate.The first ingredient was filtered water followed by grape juice. I wasbuying grape juice. Didn't there use to be laws about labels that namenad to be on the top of the list, so the first ingredient should havebeen cranberry not grape?Looking at other labels, I saw some started with apple. I'm thinkingthey are taking whatever is cheap for the main filler and limiting themore expensive items, and cheating on the label/name thing.All in all I ma disgusted, trying to be healthy and finding I've beensuckered.-- No sig line is too small.Facebook is evil.Rent this space.

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Anything in a bottle, can or box sucks. They are all boiled beyond recognition as a juice. People say they can't drink orange juice, well I guess not it's so acidic I couldn't drink it either! But fresh o.j. I could drink all day long.

Once you go fresh, you'll never go back!

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Yeah, dead food like pasteurized milk. Don't ingest it, the body sees it as fake.

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-- Re: juice hell

 Anything in a bottle, can or box sucks. They are all boiled beyond recognition as a juice. People say they can't drink orange juice, well I guess not it's so acidic I couldn't drink it either! But fresh o.j. I could drink all day long.

Once you go fresh, you'll never go back!

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Yeah I find it interesting something in citrus juice makes my lupus flare out of control... When it's fresh juiced.I can drink Simply Orange and Simply Lemonade all day and night. This just proves it's not real juice in the slightest!!!!!CandaceSent from my iPhoneOn May 19, 2010, at 5:22 PM, "SV" <shavig@...> wrote:



Anything in a bottle, can or box sucks. They are all boiled beyond recognition as a juice. People say they can't drink orange juice, well I guess not it's so acidic I couldn't drink it either! But fresh o.j. I could drink all day long.

Once you go fresh, you'll never go back!

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Alcohol? I think I'll stick with tea, which, btw I did try a few days ago, I liked it, but am going to put in less cinnamon so it all dissolves, I had sludge at the bottom of the cup.

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-- [HAWK_Health_ Awareness] juice hellHAWK_Health_ AwarenessDate: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 11:06 PM

I was very disappointed when I read the label of a well known juice. Iwas buying Ocean Spray Cranberry Juice and their Cranberry Pomegranate.The first ingredient was filtered water followed by grape juice. I wasbuying grape juice. Didn't there use to be laws about labels that namenad to be on the top of the list, so the first ingredient should havebeen cranberry not grape?Looking at other labels, I saw some started with apple. I'm thinkingthey are taking whatever is cheap for the main filler and limiting themore expensive items, and cheating on the label/name thing.All in all I ma disgusted, trying to be healthy and finding I've beensuckered.-- No sig line is too small.Facebook is evil.Rent this space.

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I understand that concept, my geese and goats were eating DOGFOOD, AND BOTH OF THEM ARE VEGETARIANS. I guess there's no meat in dog-food. Perhaps if you dilute the fresh juice it wouldn't be so harsh for you. As a Diabetic I don't drink OJ at all.

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Yeah I find it interesting something in citrus juice makes my lupus flare out of control... When it's fresh juiced.

I can drink Simply Orange and Simply Lemonade all day and night. This just proves it's not real juice in the slightest!!!!!

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Anything in a bottle, can or box sucks. They are all boiled beyond recognition as a juice. People say they can't drink orange juice, well I guess not it's so acidic I couldn't drink it either! But fresh o.j. I could drink all day long.

Once you go fresh, you'll never go back!

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There is a whole world of teas beyond the bag. I got away from it, need

to get back to it, but mixing things like rose hips, hibiscus, cloves

and others herbs, flowers and spices makes great teas without the other

bagged teas. Of course adding to the bagged teas is also good.

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" Gayla,

Try equal parts of honey and acv (like 1/2 inch in drinking glass) add warm

water.. mix and then ice.. it takes a bit to acquire taste.. but great for

arthritis.

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Thanx Suzi. Unfortunately that does not seem to get it for me. I tried a few

years ago.

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When I'd cut just about everything out of my diet I felt better for a short time and then 100x worse. When I went back to eating more foods I felt a lot better. Then 100x worse.Seems everything I try works for a short time then I'm not doin so hot again. It's very frustrating!!!CandaceSent from my iPhoneOn May 22, 2010, at 8:49 AM, "webriter" <webriter@...> wrote:

It seems that 107 for a sed rate is pretty high already. Perhaps your problem is not the citrus but something else and the citrus just increases it. I'm not putting you down, I'm a natural born detective. My chin stroking is in high right now, Have you done an elimination diet? Have you checked that some things you've already eliminated are not actually bad for you but are really good for you? For instance I found that potatoes are beneficial for me due to their high fiber, but I'd eliminated them because I'm diabetic.

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Thank you-- you know oddly I never even thought of that. I've always just juiced my own.

And I looooooooooved my fresh squeezed OJ or OJ/ lemonade combo. When I realized that's what was making me sick I just stopped drinking it besides the occasional jug of Simply orange or lemon juice.

Love my citrus! Why is it the things we love so much we have to give up? Booo

I'm hoping once this obnoxious flare goes away and my liver is on the up and up I can go back to juicing citrus ~drools~ yummmm

It's odd... When it started my sed rate was 107. When I switched to a raw diet and juiced like a crazy person while doin a liver cleanse (Dr Schulze) my sed rate jumped to 130!!!!!

Ack!

CandaceSent from my iPhone

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Drink some of the whole juices they cost a bit more but aren't you worth it. Forgot the brand name but they come in cranberry blueberry, pomegranate,pear, peach, cherry just read the ingredients. Greg.

Why would drink that stuff. Greg

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I understand that. It's as if everything we do helps then gets worse again. Just stick with the fewest things you know of that help, and after some time your body will respond. I know eating all my own produce this summer will help me a bunch, so I grow quickly grown things I have a salad garden and we had salads yesterday. This is pretty good for zone 5. I can't wait to gorge on zucchinis, broccoli, cabbages, etc.

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Thank you-- you know oddly I never even thought of that. I've always just juiced my own.

And I looooooooooved my fresh squeezed OJ or OJ/ lemonade combo. When I realized that's what was making me sick I just stopped drinking it besides the occasional jug of Simply orange or lemon juice.

Love my citrus! Why is it the things we love so much we have to give up? Booo

I'm hoping once this obnoxious flare goes away and my liver is on the up and up I can go back to juicing citrus ~drools~ yummmm

It's odd... When it started my sed rate was 107. When I switched to a raw diet and juiced like a crazy person while doin a liver cleanse (Dr Schulze) my sed rate jumped to 130!!!!!

Ack!

CandaceSent from my iPhone

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Drink some of the whole juices they cost a bit more but aren't you worth it. Forgot the brand name but they come in cranberry blueberry, pomegranate,pear, peach, cherry just read the ingredients. Greg.

Why would drink that stuff. Greg

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This is what happens to my hubby. I am trying desperately to help him make some diet changes - he is very stubborn too. He was raised on biscuits and gravy and just cannot face facts.

He is having allot of pain in his legs when he walks so his back Dr. just whipped out a script for Lyrica. LYRICA® (pregabalin) Capsules CV Official Website |Lyrica.com

LYRICA is indicated to treat Diabetic Nerve Pain, Pain after Shingles, and Fibromyalgia. LYRICA is also indicated to treat Partial Onset Seizures in adults ...

He just took one of these this morning and is having a reaction to it. I threw a fit that his Dr. gave him this without bloodwork.

I gotta get this man turned around here or I am going to be a widow soon.

Kathy

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Thank you-- you know oddly I never even thought of that. I've always just juiced my own.

And I looooooooooved my fresh squeezed OJ or OJ/ lemonade combo. When I realized that's what was making me sick I just stopped drinking it besides the occasional jug of Simply orange or lemon juice.

Love my citrus! Why is it the things we love so much we have to give up? Booo

I'm hoping once this obnoxious flare goes away and my liver is on the up and up I can go back to juicing citrus ~drools~ yummmm

It's odd... When it started my sed rate was 107. When I switched to a raw diet and juiced like a crazy person while doin a liver cleanse (Dr Schulze) my sed rate jumped to 130!!!!!

Ack!

CandaceSent from my iPhone

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Drink some of the whole juices they cost a bit more but aren't you worth it. Forgot the brand name but they come in cranberry blueberry, pomegranate,pear, peach, cherry just read the ingredients. Greg.

Why would drink that stuff. Greg

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He has to want to help himself first. I cant understand why people let their health go. Ive been a life extension and nutrition researcher since 1976 and am now 56 years young. I have absolutely and never had any health problems except an occasional scratch I cant reach to scratch LOL. Start slow and easy and try to incorporate good foods into his diet. They don't have to be raw and boring. Try making a big batch of organic (only way to go or farm fresh) gazpacho. A cold vegetable soup that's easy to handle and is delicious. Greg.

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It's frustrating knowing what you're doing has worked for umpteen hundreds of other people but isn't working for you!I'm thankful for 1 thing especially-- I LOVE my fruits n veggies! There's a lady at work who has bad arthritis and I overheard some one talk about diet and she says "yeah I'm sure that might help but I hate fruits and vegetables" WHAAAAT!? How's it possible to go through life like that!?As far as the Lyrica... My dr had me on the highest dose of gabapentin (same thing) you can legally prescribe and my pain was so bad I took it. Right until my legs started giving out and I'd do face plants onto the ground... And I started smelling burnt toast everywhere.... A sign for epileptics they're going to have a seizure!Drs are quick to prescribe antiseizure meds for pain because they're non addictive.CandaceSent from my

iPhoneOn May 23, 2010, at 12:30 PM, "Kathy" <gobucks@...> wrote:

This is what happens to my hubby. I am trying desperately to help him make some diet changes - he is very stubborn too. He was raised on biscuits and gravy and just cannot face facts.

He is having allot of pain in his legs when he walks so his back Dr. just whipped out a script for Lyrica. LYRICA® (pregabalin) Capsules CV Official Website |Lyrica.com

LYRICA is indicated to treat Diabetic Nerve Pain, Pain after Shingles, and Fibromyalgia. LYRICA is also indicated to treat Partial Onset Seizures in adults ...

He just took one of these this morning and is having a reaction to it. I threw a fit that his Dr. gave him this without bloodwork.

I gotta get this man turned around here or I am going to be a widow soon.

Kathy

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Seems everything I try works for a short time then I'm not doin so hot again. It's very frustrating!!!

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Lucky! When I lived in the country I had a huuuge garden and planned to save and freeze veggies and fruit for Winter...IF they even made it in the house they never made it in the freezer!YUMMMM!!!!!!!!CandaceSent from my iPhoneOn May 23, 2010, at 10:55 AM, "webriter" <webriter@...> wrote:

I understand that. It's as if everything we do helps then gets worse again. Just stick with the fewest things you know of that help, and after some time your body will respond. I know eating all my own produce this summer will help me a bunch, so I grow quickly grown things I have a salad garden and we had salads yesterday. This is pretty good for zone 5. I can't wait to gorge on zucchinis, broccoli, cabbages, etc.

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Well he is already on the other addictive crap for his neck and disc problems in lower back. I think he has CAD. All I can do is keep him moving as much as I can and force him to eat better. I have been bribing him lately - its that bad.

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Seems everything I try works for a short time then I'm not doin so hot again. It's very frustrating!!!

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Moving.... That's a toughy for me too. When in lots of pain it's tempting to sit around all day and do nothing. Some days I curse the fact I'm on my feet all day at work (and some days by the time I get to go home I'm sobbing like a baby) but if it wasn't for my job I'd be almost completely sedentary. And I know that won't help get fluid or anything else out of my joints!Ugh!CandaceSent from my iPhoneOn May 23, 2010, at 1:30 PM, "Kathy" <gobucks@...> wrote:

Well he is already on the other addictive crap for his neck and disc problems in lower back. I think he has CAD. All I can do is keep him moving as much as I can and force him to eat better. I have been bribing him lately - its that bad.

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Yeah, I'll probably give a lot away, but I'll be sorry later.

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Lucky! When I lived in the country I had a huuuge garden and planned to save and freeze veggies and fruit for Winter...

IF they even made it in the house they never made it in the freezer!

YUMMMM!!!!!!!!

CandaceSent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2010, at 10:55 AM, "webriter" <webriterverizon (DOT) net> wrote:

I understand that. It's as if everything we do helps then gets worse again. Just stick with the fewest things you know of that help, and after some time your body will respond. I know eating all my own produce this summer will help me a bunch, so I grow quickly grown things I have a salad garden and we had salads yesterday. This is pretty good for zone 5. I can't wait to gorge on zucchinis, broccoli, cabbages, etc.

~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb

Zeal for your house consumes me-Ps 69:9

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I know what you mean, mine loves doctors and drugs, he uses the microwave all the time, and eats nearly all meat, except for the daily bag of potato chips, and the docs want him to have back surgery.

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This is what happens to my hubby. I am trying desperately to help him make some diet changes - he is very stubborn too. He was raised on biscuits and gravy and just cannot face facts.

He is having allot of pain in his legs when he walks so his back Dr. just whipped out a script for Lyrica. LYRICA® (pregabalin) Capsules CV Official Website |Lyrica.com

LYRICA is indicated to treat Diabetic Nerve Pain, Pain after Shingles, and Fibromyalgia. LYRICA is also indicated to treat Partial Onset Seizures in adults ...

He just took one of these this morning and is having a reaction to it. I threw a fit that his Dr. gave him this without bloodwork.

I gotta get this man turned around here or I am going to be a widow soon.

Kathy

Re: juice hell

Thank you-- you know oddly I never even thought of that. I've always just juiced my own.

And I looooooooooved my fresh squeezed OJ or OJ/ lemonade combo. When I realized that's what was making me sick I just stopped drinking it besides the occasional jug of Simply orange or lemon juice.

Love my citrus! Why is it the things we love so much we have to give up? Booo

I'm hoping once this obnoxious flare goes away and my liver is on the up and up I can go back to juicing citrus ~drools~ yummmm

It's odd... When it started my sed rate was 107. When I switched to a raw diet and juiced like a crazy person while doin a liver cleanse (Dr Schulze) my sed rate jumped to 130!!!!!

Ack!

CandaceSent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Greg <gkw12954 > wrote:

Drink some of the whole juices they cost a bit more but aren't you worth it. Forgot the brand name but they come in cranberry blueberry, pomegranate,pear, peach, cherry just read the ingredients. Greg.

Why would drink that stuff. Greg

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i love that soup. what is your recipe?

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From: Greg <gkw12954@...>health Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 1:01:29 PMSubject: Re: juice hell

He has to want to help himself first. I cant understand why people let their health go. Ive been a life extension and nutrition researcher since 1976 and am now 56 years young. I have absolutely and never had any health problems except an occasional scratch I cant reach to scratch LOL. Start slow and easy and try to incorporate good foods into his diet. They don't have to be raw and boring. Try making a big batch of organic (only way to go or farm fresh) gazpacho. A cold vegetable soup that's easy to handle and is delicious. Greg.

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3 cucumbers, 3-4 tomatoes 1-2 red and green peppers. I use 1-2 small zucchini, 1-onion 3-4 cloves garlic or use garlic powder a seasoned salt to taste, pepper, a dash of franks hot sauce 2-3 cups V8 juice a little red wine or cider vinegar fresh parsley and basil fresh if possible juice of 1 lemon or lime is better. and that's it. Just finely chop everything and eat. Greg.

From: Suzanne <suziesgoats@...>Subject: Re: juice hellhealth Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 7:12 PM

i love that soup. what is your recipe?

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From: Greg <gkw12954 (DOT) com>HAWK_Health_ AwarenessSent: Sun, May 23, 2010 1:01:29 PMSubject: Re: [HAWK_Health_ Awareness] juice hell

He has to want to help himself first. I cant understand why people let their health go. Ive been a life extension and nutrition researcher since 1976 and am now 56 years young. I have absolutely and never had any health problems except an occasional scratch I cant reach to scratch LOL. Start slow and easy and try to incorporate good foods into his diet. They don't have to be raw and boring. Try making a big batch of organic (only way to go or farm fresh) gazpacho. A cold vegetable soup that's easy to handle and is delicious. Greg.

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I add carrots and green onions also but use a pepper instead of hot sauce.

Sometimes I add the orange or yellow peppers as they are a bit sweeter.

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From: Greg <gkw12954@...>health Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 8:54:40 AMSubject: Re: juice hell

3 cucumbers, 3-4 tomatoes 1-2 red and green peppers. I use 1-2 small zucchini, 1-onion 3-4 cloves garlic or use garlic powder a seasoned salt to taste, pepper, a dash of franks hot sauce 2-3 cups V8 juice a little red wine or cider vinegar fresh parsley and basil fresh if possible juice of 1 lemon or lime is better. and that's it. Just finely chop everything and eat. Greg.

From: Suzanne <suziesgoats@...>Subject: Re: juice hellhealth Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 7:12 PM

i love that soup. what is your recipe?

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I am assuming this is eaten raw right?

Re: juice hellhealth Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 7:12 PM

i love that soup. what is your recipe?

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What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

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