Guest guest Posted January 24, 2000 Report Share Posted January 24, 2000 Dear Karla: I would suspect that you are allergic to synthetic 'B' vitamins. See if you can find Zell Oxygen. This is a product imported from Germany that is essentially sacchromyces yeast grown on fruit. It contains all the 'B' vitamins, Vitamins C and E that are inherent in yeast. It actually builds oxygen into cells and discourages candida. If you took Zell Oxygen and Thyrodine, had no candida, no fluoridated or chlorinated water, no drugs, and a reasonable nutritional program, [see www.hacres.com and www.thyrodine.com ]you could probably restore thyroid function very effectively. Earl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2001 Report Share Posted March 2, 2001 pam - i only ever heard that B vitamins " fed " candida - if the brand you use has YEAST - brewers yeast in its formula. mine doesn't.... wendy swollen joints & adrenals Hi, everyone, I haven't figured out how to patch in parts of older messages, so I will just respond when I have some information via subject matter. Swollen joints: when I was first diagnosed with candida more than 15 years ago I was told that salt was just as harmful as sugar and I have found it to be true. A small amount of salt in my diet causes swollen ankles and a large amount swollen joints in my hands. No salt, and not just table salt, but sodium is in some vitamin compounds just as sugar sneaks in in lots of ways. Adrenals: when I thought my problem was food allergies I learned that malfunctioning adrenals were the root cause and started taken adrenal enzymes (I also take them for pancreas, kidney, & b liver). I began them before I learned about so many anti-fungals and rotating them from this group and I believe these enzymes were one of my main stays throughout this period. They are made by Enzyme Process company in Tempe AZ and I get them through the discount L & H Vitamins. The web address is www.vitamins.com and the order number for the adrenal cytotrophic concentrate (bovine source) is 50-116. The cost is $9.60 for 100 tabs which is a month's supply. The product that really sustained me through many years of ups and downs was anti-aging vitamins. I stopped taking them when I read Mog repeated posts that vitamins (particularly B vitamins) were just feeding the beasts. But after a month I lost so much muscle tone and felt so weak that I have started again. I have to say that even though they are very expensive ($700 a year) they were a god send at a time when resources such as this list simply did not exist. Now a delicate topic: so many people have put aside their personal sensibilities in order to help other folks on the list, I feel I must as well. When one feels anal itching (or tickling) it means that some parasite is near the surface. If you are at home, run and get in the bath tub putting a liberal amount of hydrogen peroxide in the water and sit there for 10 minutes or so. When I tried this a real monster (many headed as described by Mog) expelled itself within a couple of hours. I felt truly wretched for an hour or so afterwards but drank my fizzy C vitamin drink to rid myself of the toxins that the monster left as a good-bye present. Within 24 hours I spontanously (that is without any warning folks) expelled a large mass of mucus which I assume was either this monster's condo or feeding station. Since then I have felt fabulous with renewed energy. An idea yet to be tried: I will carry around with me a 1/2 H2O & 1/2 hydrogen peroxide in a small container (35 mm plastic film cannister is ideal) along with some cosmetic cotton pads and will use both to swipe the anal area if this should happen to me again when I am away from home. Sorry for the graphics but if it helps one person anywhere in the world. Jonah, I for one will happily mail you some molybdenum--it is very cheap here, a month's supply less than half of a movie entrance ticket. Please send me a mail address. I have been battling this problem for 53 years and would beggar myself to help younger people rid themselves of the pain, and crippling emotional, professional, personal etc, etc. side effects. Magi, thanks for your moral support. I believe you are in the DC area and if you are interested in helping form a support group I would happily meet you at your Fresh Fields for lunch some day soon. PamSend blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2001 Report Share Posted March 3, 2001 I have heard that the b vitamins WITH yeast feed candida...but the B vitamin's without are supposed to help build the friendly flora our stomachs need to fight off the candida. I can't remember where I read that though...I take the b vitamin's without yeast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2001 Report Share Posted March 4, 2001 i did a vitamin C flush for the liver and other organs! other than over doing it , it wasn't to bad! Mog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2001 Report Share Posted March 4, 2001 On 3 Mar 2001, at 18:10, 2moons wrote: > I have heard that the b vitamins WITH yeast feed candida...but the B > vitamin's without are supposed to help build the friendly flora I think that's right, but I've had the most horrific reaction to B-vitamins every time I've tried to take them. They're yeast-free, sugar-free, gluten- free, dairy-free, everything-free, but my body did NOT like them! I've even started to have reactions to biotin now. :-/ Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 > I am thinking about dissolving the contents of a B complex capsule in > distilled water and keeping it in the fridge (in an airtight bottle) > for more accurate dosing. This would also allow me to split one > capsule over several days for my son. I am also thinking of doing > this with B6 by itself. > > Does anybody know if the B vitamins are stable when dissolved in > water and kept that way for a few days? Dosing does not need to be particularly accurate, you just need to use enough. B complex in water tastes BAAAAAAD. This is not going to lead to easy compliance. B complex is very nourishing to microorganisms. A few days is OK, but no more. . . . .. . . . . . . > > Thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 > > B complex in water tastes BAAAAAAD. This is not going to lead to easy > compliance. > > B complex is very nourishing to microorganisms. A few days is OK, but > no more. . . . .. . . . . . . I did taste some and can't argue. BLECH! It will be measured in a dropper and mixed in his drink. This lets me make the stuff ahead of time and saves my wife from having to split capsules, etc. Hopefully the dilution in rice milk will be enough to cover the horrible taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 > Yes, fully get that, but do you mean that the extra B vitamins can cause aggression? For phenol sensitive kids, yes http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 .. B-6/zinc has done wonders for my son. Major behaviors that have improved in a 1 month period. Carla Same thing here Carla. Everytime I try to take my son off his vitamins, he gradually deteriorates in behavior over a span of two weeks, by then it is soooooo obvious, and within a few days of getting back on them, he is so much better off. My kid definitely needs the B6/zinc, but I do give them with all the other B's as well, in a comprehensive multi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Has anyone who is giving enzymes AND finding they need extra B6 or other B vitamins done a pyroluria test or know if pyroluria is a factor? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 No, have no access to that type of testing, although everything I have read, I strongly suspect we are of the pyroluria type. Have been using enzymes for 2 years now and STILL need those B vits. > Has anyone who is giving enzymes AND finding they need extra B6 or > other B vitamins done a pyroluria test or know if pyroluria is a > factor? > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 I had never heard of B's having yeast. Could someone explain this too? B-6 sometimes makes the kids hyper, I wonder if it's linked to a yeast issue at all? Kari B vitamins Greetings to all Does anyone have a source for non yeast B vitamins?nieema Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Any thoughts on B vitamins. In the early days of my diagnosis I read both extremes, recommendations for B vitamins as part of a treatement protocol to avoiding them stating the ca fed on them. So...I know when I take them in supplement form, I do tend to feel better but find I have an increased appetitie, craving sweets which is not the norm for me. A lot of multi vitamins have the same effect. Wondering if anyone has had the same experience or has any recommendations. Thank you. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 From: <donnadbd777@...> > Any thoughts on B vitamins. In the early days of my diagnosis I read both > extremes, recommendations for B vitamins as part of a treatement protocol to > avoiding them stating the ca fed on them. Depends on the particular B vitamin. If I had cancer, I'd take niacin (form of B-3), but I read to discontinue it during menses or if one has hemorrhage/bleeding. In most cases, I wouldn't go out of my way either to take or to avoid the other B vitamins unless instructed by health professional. I think that whether they're helpful or harmful depends on the individual patient and their individual needs at a particular point in time. I personally wouldn't worry about the quantity of B vitamins I was getting in a multivitamin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 > From: <donnadbd777@a...> > > Any thoughts on B vitamins. In the early days of my diagnosis I read both Thank you Leonard, It was an alternative practioner and he sold me 7 or 8 supplements that almost all have some B in them. It is a food based supplement rather than synthetic and I feel better about that. I do feel better taking them although they stiumlate my appetite and being ravenous does not really lend itself to eating healthy. I did cut the recommended dosages and still seem to feel better without being hungry all the time. Donna > > extremes, recommendations for B vitamins as part of a treatement protocol > to > > avoiding them stating the ca fed on them. > > Depends on the particular B vitamin. > > If I had cancer, I'd take niacin (form of B-3), but I read to discontinue it > during menses or if one has hemorrhage/bleeding. > In most cases, I wouldn't go out of my way either to take or to avoid the > other B vitamins unless instructed by health professional. I think that > whether they're helpful or harmful depends on the individual patient and > their individual needs at a particular point in time. I personally wouldn't > worry about the quantity of B vitamins I was getting in a multivitamin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 > My son also bangs his head if I give him b6, even a little tiny > bit. it takes a whole day for it to stop. What does this mean > anyone? Possibly severely phenol intolerant. >>I want to try b12 but I am afraid. My #3 banged his head when I gave B12 without folic acid. I was able to give him a lower dose if I gave it along with folic acid. So if you want to try B12, be sure to give lower dose and give it with folic acid. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 My 20 month old has also shown a high need for B vitamins from her testing and I've been nervous about giving her these because she has had such bad yeast problems. Any thoughts about this? Thanks, [ ] Digest Number 7697 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 > > > My 20 month old has also shown a high need for B vitamins from her testing and I've been nervous about giving her these because she has had such bad yeast problems. Start with low doses and increase your yeast protocol. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I prefer Solgar. There are no fillers and rated Kosher Parve. The separate B vitamins and Folic acid are in tiny capsules, which is great if she can take them. -- Rima Regas Mom to Leah, age 8 (AS, DSI and APD) http://www.sensoryintegrationhelp.com On 3/26/06, jjcox22 <jjcox22@...> wrote: > > Do people like Twin Labs B-100 vitamins? > > If not, what brand of B vits do you use or like? > > My daughter is VERY sensitive > > thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 i've been looking for B complex with no fillers, but the solgar website shows fillers in all theirs. did you find some without any fillers? thanks. k Re: [ ] B vitamins I prefer Solgar. There are no fillers and rated Kosher Parve. The separate B vitamins and Folic acid are in tiny capsules, which is great if she can take them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Sue wrote: > > I was re-reading the requirements for the b vitamins and the > requirement for b-6 is not mentioned. ==>I will fix B-6, which is 50 mgs as well. > What a challenge trying to find vitamins without sugar, yeast ect... most of what i have been taking doesnt say that it is not in there but after calling the customer care depts at the companies i find out that mostly all contain sugar. Is this something that i should be trying to avoid or is it such a small amount that it is not as important? ==>Natural Factors has B Complex which contains no sweeteners. It is best to avoid sugar in supplements if possible. Also I think it is important to support companies that do not include sugar in their products. Consumers can influence the market. >Its difficult to find omegas without some type of sugar. they all say it is in a lemon form so is that important. ==>Lemon is used as a flavoring and it shouldn't be a problem. Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 > > My son is taking Super Nu Thera once a day, but I want to ad MB 12 to > his regiment. Is it possible to have too much vitamin B? Yes >> Also, should > I be giving him the Super Nu Thera more than once? It is usually best to divide the daily total dose, and give it at least 2-3x per day. >> How about vitamin > C, is it bad to have too much, and how much is too much? Too much will tend to cause diarrhea. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 If you decide to give B12, you also need to give folic acid. S S <p>My son is taking Super Nu Thera once a day, but I want to ad MB 12 to<br> his regiment. Is it possible to have too much vitamin B? Also, should<br> I be giving him the Super Nu Thera more than once? How about vitamin<br> C, is it bad to have too much, and how much is too much? I'm lost when<br> it comes to the vitamins and what their effects on the body are (I<br> think I skipped that day in health class!) Any insight would be<br> helpful. Right now david is taking Omega 3, a probiotic, vit. C, zinc,<br> super nu thera (w/o vit. A & D, since he gets that from his cod liver<br> oil), enzymes and candex. <br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 > > Bee: > > Do B Vitamins cause die off symptoms? Hi Paige. What symptoms are you having that you believe are caused by B vitamins? Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 > > why is it that she races when taking B-Complex, but not when she takes > the B's in the Super Nu Thera. Is it the magnesium perhaps? Might be that. Might also be that SNT contains high B6, but lower doses of other Bs. Some of the other Bs are not even USRDA, last I checked. So she might not need the higher doses of the other Bs. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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