Re: Hidden facts about ritalin

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So scary, we never had school shootings when I was a kid, there were a few [very few] hyper-active kids mostly because there were few fake foods then, no additives, and no one had ADD or ADHD, no ritalin prescribed, coincidence?

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-- Hidden facts about ritalin

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HIDDEN FACTS ABOUT RITALIN

By Jon RappoportJuly 5, 2010NewsWithViews.com

In 1986, The International Journal of the Addictions published a very important literature review by Scarnati. It was called “An Outline of Hazardous Side Effects of Ritalin (Methylphenidate)†[v.21(7), pp. 837-841].

Scarnati listed a large number of adverse affects of Ritalin and cited published journal articles which reported each of these symptoms.

For every one of the following Ritalin effects, there is at least one confirming source in the medical literature:

• Paranoid delusions • Paranoid psychosis • Hypomanic and manic symptoms, amphetamine-like psychosis • Activation of psychotic symptoms • Toxic psychosis • Visual hallucinations • Auditory hallucinations • Can surpass LSD in producing bizarre experiences • Effects pathological thought processes • Extreme withdrawal • Terrified affect • Started screaming • Aggressiveness • Insomnia • Since Ritalin is considered an amphetamine-type drug, expect amphetamine-like effects • Psychic dependence • High-abuse potential DEA Schedule II Drug • Decreased REM sleep • When used with antidepressants one may see dangerous reactions including hypertension, seizures and hypothermia • Convulsions • Brain damage may be seen with amphetamine abuse.

Many parents around the country have discovered that Ritalin has become a condition for their children continuing in school. There are even reports, by parents, of threats from social agencies: “If you don't allow us to prescribe Ritalin for your ADHD child, we may decide that you are an unfit parent. We may decide to take your child away.â€

This mind-boggling state of affairs is fueled by teachers, principals, and school counselors, none of whom have medical training. Yet even if they did…

The very existence of the “illnesses†for which Ritalin would be prescribed is unproven. It is merely assumed.

In commenting on Dr. Lawrence Diller's book, Running on Ritalin, Dr. Carey, Director of Behavioral Pediatrics, Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, has written, “Dr. Diller has correctly described... the disturbing trend of blaming children's social, behavioral, and academic performance problems entirely on an unproven brain deficit...â€

On November 16-18, 1998, the National Institute of Mental Health held the prestigious “NIH Consensus Development Conference on Diagnosis and Treatment of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder [ADHD].†The conference was explicitly aimed at ending all debate about the diagnoses of ADD, ADHD, and about the prescription of Ritalin. It was hoped that at the highest levels of medical research and bureaucracy, a clear position would be taken: this is what ADHD is, this is where it comes from, and these are the drugs it should be treated with. That didn't happen, amazingly. Instead, the official panel responsible for drawing conclusions from the conference threw cold water on the whole attempt to reach a comfortable consensus.

Panel member Mark Vonnegut, a Massachusetts pediatrician, said, “The diagnosis [of ADHD] is a mess.â€

The quite conventional and orthodox panel essentially said it was not sure ADHD was even a valid diagnosis. In other words, it virtually admitted that ADD and ADHD might be nothing more than attempts to categorize certain children's behaviors---with no organic cause, no clear-cut biological basis, no provable reason for even using the ADD or ADHD labels.

The panel found “no data to indicate that ADHD is due to a brain malfunction [which malfunction had been the whole psychiatric assumption].â€

The panel found that Ritalin has not been shown to have long-term benefits. In fact, the panel stated that Ritalin has resulted in “little improvement on academic achievement or social skills.â€

Panel chairman, Kupfer, professor of psychiatry at the University of Pittsburgh, said, “There is no current validated diagnostic test [for ADHD].â€

Yet at every level of public education in America, there remains what can only be called a voracious desire to give children Ritalin (or other similar drugs) for so-called ADD or ADHD.

The 1994 Textbook of Psychiatry, published by the American Psychiatric Press, contains this review (Popper and Steingard): “Stimulants [such as Ritalin] do not produce lasting improvements in aggressivity, conduct disorder, criminality, education achievement, job functioning, marital relationships, or long-term adjustment.â€

Parents should also wake up to the fact that, in the aftermath of the Littleton, Colorado, school-shooting tragedy, pundits and doctors began urging much more extensive “mental health†services for children. Whether you have noticed it or not, this no longer means, for the most part, therapy with a caring professional. It means drugs. Drugs like Ritalin.

In December 1996, the US Drug Enforcement Agency held a conference on ADHD and Ritalin. Surprisingly, it issued a sensible statement about drugs being a bad substitute for the presence of caring parents: “[T]he use of stimulants [such as Ritalin] for the short-term improvement of behavior and underachievement may be thwarting efforts to address the children's real issues, both on an individual and societal level. The lack of long-term positive results with the use of stimulants and the specter of previous and potential stimulant abuse epidemics, give cause to worry about the future. The dramatic increase in the use of methylphenidate [Ritalin] in the 1990s should be viewed as a marker or warning to society about the problems children are having and how we view and address them.â€

In his book, Talking Back to Ritalin, Dr. Breggin expands on the drug's effects: “Stimulants such as Ritalin and amphetamine... have grossly harmful impacts on the brain -- reducing overall blood flow, disturbing glucose metabolism, and possibly causing permanent shrinkage or atrophy of the brain.â€

In the American press, although many articles have appeared covering “the debate†about Ritalin and ADHD, no newspaper or TV network has taken it upon itself to hammer on all the lies, day after day, month after month. That kind of campaign could turn around the whole nation on this vital subject---but of course, pharmaceutical advertising is a more powerful force. And one should not forget that Ritalin came out of a Swiss drug giant called Ciba Geigy (now Novartis) fifty years ago. That company once had very close business ties with the infamous Nazi cartel, IG Farben. Farben stood for inhuman experiments on human beings. Read the adverse effects of Ritalin again, and consider that millions of children take those pills every day.

© 2010 Jon Rappoport -

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If you've ever read Rosemond, you'll see it from an angle that has exactly ZILCH to do with diet and very much indeed to do with parenting.With which I agree, although I won't argue the deleterious effects of over-processed, chemically contrived "phood".Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!"So scary, we never had school shootings when I was a kid, there were a few [very few] hyper-active kids mostly because there were few fake foods then, no additives, and no one had ADD or ADHD, no ritalin prescribed, coincidence?   ~Katy

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Well had a terrible crop of parents too in the last 50 years..

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-- RE: Hidden facts about ritalin

If you've ever read Rosemond, you'll see it from an angle that has exactly ZILCH to do with diet and very much indeed to do with parenting.With which I agree, although I won't argue the deleterious effects of over-processed, chemically contrived "phood".Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!"

So scary, we never had school shootings when I was a kid, there were a few [very few] hyper-active kids mostly because there were few fake foods then, no additives, and no one had ADD or ADHD, no ritalin prescribed, coincidence?

  ~Katy

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I have to take issue with the parenting part. I do agree it has some degree of impact on kids, but not as much as we wish it would. But in some cases it's probably a good thing kids don't listen to their parents.

Now how about this.........the drug companies come up with diseases to sell drugs?! Maybe that's why it wasn't known when I was a kid (in the '50s). They didn't have ritalin yet so there was no such thing as ADD/ADHD.

And how about the education system? They are lame as anything. And I work in that system! If you check I'll bet 90% of all recommendations for ritalin come from teachers. The idea today is to have everyone conform, sit down, sit still, don't think, don't create................

We had a "drug" deal go down in our lockerroom and the kid was expelled. He bought an ADD drug because he was sleepy. To get back into school HE went to the doctor (he's 18) and had the doctor give him a prescription (same stuff he bought illegally!) and a diagnosis! Now he buys his high legally!!! His parents didn't want to medicate him but when he turned 18 he made the appointment himself and now he makes a tidy sum selling his prescription pills to other kids.

So parenting is the problem? I think it's about a fraction of the problem.

Now, would you like to talk about all the caffeine in kids food? How about the latte stands on every corner, legal drug.....caffeine............

Shari

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The lack of commitment to normal parenting, and the disgusting trend toward blindly following pseudo-psychology has led to this unfortunate, but predictable, result."Give them a pill...."SO much easier than Mom and/or Dad actually putting their spines back in place and insisting on the child experiencing CONSEQUENCES for their misbehavior or lack of effort at schoolwork.Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!"**************************************************In commenting on Dr. Lawrence Diller's book, Running on Ritalin, Dr. Carey, Director of Behavioral Pediatrics, Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, has written, “Dr. Diller has correctly described... the disturbing trend of blaming children's social, behavioral, and academic performance problems entirely on an unproven brain deficit...”

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Parenting? What parenting? Nannies bring up the kids in the village according to the government rules.

  ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb

“In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15

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-- RE: Hidden facts about ritalin

The lack of commitment to normal parenting, and the disgusting trend toward blindly following pseudo-psychology has led to this unfortunate, but predictable, result."Give them a pill...."SO much easier than Mom and/or Dad actually putting their spines back in place and insisting on the child experiencing CONSEQUENCES for their misbehavior or lack of effort at schoolwork.Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!"**************************************************In commenting on Dr. Lawrence Diller's book, Running on Ritalin, Dr. Carey, Director of Behavioral Pediatrics, Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, has written, “Dr. Diller has correctly described... the disturbing trend of blaming children's social, behavioral, and academic performance problems entirely on an unproven brain deficit...â€

[Guest guest]

I have to take issue with the parenting part. I do agree it has some degree of impact on kids, but not as much as we wish it would. But in some cases it's probably a good thing kids don't listen to their parents.~~~~<shrug> Than we agree to disagree. Now how about this.........the drug companies come up with diseases to sell drugs?! Maybe that's why it wasn't known when I was a kid (in the '50s). They didn't have ritalin yet so there was no such thing as ADD/ADHD. ~~~~It's one theory. And how about the education system? They are lame as anything. And I work in that system! If you check I'll bet 90% of all recommendations for ritalin come from teachers. The idea today is to have everyone conform, sit down, sit still, don't think, don't create................~~~~~That may depend on where I look. My SIL is a teacher - for "special needs" kids, as is her own DiL. We just discussed this a few weeks ago when the DH and I were visiting.Child Services is NOT a thing teachers involve lightly. At least, not where they live. And both these women found their kids more receptive to learning when there were NO drugs in the picture.If PARENTS TAUGHT their children from the get-go to sit down, be still, listen, respect authority, then teachers wherever wouldn't be so desperate for creating conditions that they themselves have been prevented from doing, ham-strung and hog-tied. Imagine that!! Going to school with the understanding that you had BETTER behave, and your schoolwork is YOURS to complete!! What a concept!!******************************************************************************** We had a "drug" deal go down in our lockerroom and the kid was expelled. He bought an ADD drug because he was sleepy. To get back into school HE went to the doctor (he's 18) and had the doctor give him a prescription (same stuff he bought illegally!) and a diagnosis! Now he buys his high legally!!! His parents didn't want to medicate him but when he turned 18 he made the appointment himself and now he makes a tidy sum selling his prescription pills to other kids. So parenting is the problem? I think it's about a fraction of the problem.~~~~~That's your take on it. While I was in high school, I would never have DARED to do that, nor would most of the kids I knew, although even then it was starting, and there were some who would have.And were it not for the absurd/criminal trend toward shoving responsibility on someone - ANYONE - other than one's self, which is shown in parents protecting their children from normal and reasonable consequences for their behaviors, children dare MUCH these days. Up to and including calling the police if a parent should attempt any discipline.And society has most insanely taken to defending and allowing that!Pfffft. I'm some kind of glad I'm out of it now.****************************************************************** Now, would you like to talk about all the caffeine in kids food? How about the latte stands on every corner, legal drug.....caffeine............ Shari~~~~Well, if kids weren't raised being ALLOWED to indulge in that crap, it would be different, wouldn't it? I would never have considered a vending machine being in any of my schools, but they're more or less standard issue now - unless someone has woken up and changed that.And you're singing to the choir about caffeine, you know!!Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!"

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Obviously you have never had a child with a learning problem. It was suggested our son be medicated and we refused. It was not until he was in grade 8 did they finally give me some assistance in having him tested. He's dyslexic, NOT ADD!!! How many of these kids have a reading problem or a hearing problem and it's being chalked up to bad parenting or a chemical imbalance?

During his grade school and middle school years were a nightmare. If I hadn't been a stay at home mom he would have been medicated. His energy and creativity is off the wall. He participated in every sport imaginable and still had energy to spare.

Same thing with his sister who is two years younger. We didn't medicate either one, but sure did have an interesting few years.

Guess what - they got better when we changed their diet to no animal products, no chemicals, nothing artificial. And they have only had one round of vaccinations when they were born. NOTHING after that.

As a parent who went without and tried really hard for years, I resent your saying bad kids and ritalin overprescribing is because of parents/parenting.

Shari

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Obviously you have never had a child with a learning problem. It was suggested our son be medicated and we refused. It was not until he was in grade 8 did they finally give me some assistance in having him tested. He's dyslexic, NOT ADD!!! How many of these kids have a reading problem or a hearing problem and it's being chalked up to bad parenting or a chemical imbalance?~~~~~No, Shari, I never did. My SiL does, however, have a challenged grandchild and deals with special needs kids (I thought I mentioned that).Besides which, you can't have it both ways, girl. You just wrote something about the problem being food/caffeine caused.

As a parent who went without and tried really hard for years, I resent your saying bad kids and ritalin overprescribing is because of parents/parenting.~~~~~Get your nose back in joint. I did not say EVERY SINGLE CASE was due to parents who don't parent. Of course there will exist legitimate physical problems that need to be addressed. And won't it be lovely when the authorities STOP trying to Nazi everyone into vaccinations?! SO many problems resulting from that nonsense, and still the connection gets ignored. That's criminal, IMO.What I said, and stand by, is that THE MAJORITY of cases of ill-behaved kids, kids who don't attend to their schoolwork like they ought, IS very definitely because of the way they were raised. Or not raised, however one chooses to view it. If you don't see that, it might just be that you can't see the forest for your tree.Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!"

Shari_,_._,___

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I see a lot of pain in both of these folks, and my heart goes out to them. I'm sure there are as many causes of drug-related children's problems as there are children with drug-related troubles, I know the trends are towards fake foods, mass vaccinations, and village-raised kids, in other words putting us all in a box as if we are all alike. This is a huge problem. And until we go back to being individuals it will stay that way. Are we agreed that drugs for children could be a really bad idea? Are we agreed that we love our children and grandchildren and we do not like the current trends towards the above named problems? Or should we continue to take out our frustrations on each other?

  ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb

“In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15

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-- RE: Hidden facts about ritalin

Obviously you have never had a child with a learning problem. It was suggested our son be medicated and we refused. It was not until he was in grade 8 did they finally give me some assistance in having him tested. He's dyslexic, NOT ADD!!! How many of these kids have a reading problem or a hearing problem and it's being chalked up to bad parenting or a chemical imbalance?~~~~~No, Shari, I never did. My SiL does, however, have a challenged grandchild and deals with special needs kids (I thought I mentioned that).Besides which, you can't have it both ways, girl. You just wrote something about the problem being food/caffeine caused.

As a parent who went without and tried really hard for years, I resent your saying bad kids and ritalin overprescribing is because of parents/parenting.~~~~~Get your nose back in joint. I did not say EVERY SINGLE CASE was due to parents who don't parent. Of course there will exist legitimate physical problems that need to be addressed. And won't it be lovely when the authorities STOP trying to Nazi everyone into vaccinations?! SO many problems resulting from that nonsense, and still the connection gets ignored. That's criminal, IMO.What I said, and stand by, is that THE MAJORITY of cases of ill-behaved kids, kids who don't attend to their schoolwork like they ought, IS very definitely because of the way they were raised. Or not raised, however one chooses to view it. If you don't see that, it might just be that you can't see the forest for your tree.Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!"

Shari_,_._,___