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>From: barbinohio@...

>Reply-bowel cleanse

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>Subject: Re: Pumpkin seeds

>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:50:30 -0000

>

>thanks for the info manual...sounds interesting! Do you have to drink

>the WHOLE thing? and will buttermilk or coconut milk work instead of

>whole milk?

>

>Barbara

>

>

>---Barbara,

Back home there is only whole milk, so I do not know of any other

alternatives.

Yes you have to drink or eat, (it gets pretty thick) the whole thing, you

may reduce the amount of milk if you think it will be too much for you in

the morning, however, the reason she used milk, is because the garlic could

be a little too harsh for your stomach walls, but really depends of how much

garlic you are used handle., so you may be able to use less milk.

I talked to my grandma this week end, and she said that, that is the recipe

she has been using since she can remember, and she is 96, but basically

garlic, and pumkin seeds are the key to get rid of any worms, bugs or

anything living within.Good luck to you!, if you have any questions, let me

know, so I can ask her. I feel so lucky to still have her around, with all

her knowledge.

In bowel cleanse@y..., " MAE NISHI " <manve99@h...> wrote:

> > Hi,

> > I am Mexican, and grew up eating pumpink seeds, however, my

>grandmother used

> > to get all my family together twice a year to clean our stomach,

>(you know

> > how clean the mexican vegetebles and street food are).

> > Anyway, this is her recipe.

> > 2 cups of whole milk

> > 3-4 cloves of raw garlic

> > 1 hand full of raw pumpink seeds (whole not shelled)

> > 1 tbs olive oil

> > one bunch of epazote (get it an any Mexican Market) or try to get

>epazote

> > oil, and substitute for olive oil

> > If you can not find epazote do not wory about it. Garlic and pumpkin

>seeds

> > will do the job.

> > Put everything in the blender, and drink it in an empty stomach.

> > Make sure to follow a healthy diet at least two weeks before you

>take this

> > mixture. And all raw food, no carbs diet will be great, since

>parasites love

> > sugar and flour. And one very important thing, ask someone to do the

> > blending for you, and drink it with your nose clipped, since

>parasites can

> > hide themselves if they smell danger.

> > I know of many of my grandmothers friends that compained that it did

>not

> > work for them, but when they did it with their nose clipped, for

>sure

> > worked.

> > Good luck.

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: barbinohio@h...

> > >Reply-bowel cleanse@y...

> > >bowel cleanse@y...

> > >Subject: Pumpkin seeds

> > >Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:37:34 -0000

> > >

> > >I found some pumpkin seeds here! Yeah! Now I need to know what to

>do

> > >with them LOL They are in the shell. I wanted to use them as an

> > >antiparasitic. I think that means I need to grind them and eat

>them

> > >in yoghurt or cereal right? Do I grind them in the shell or take

>them

> > >out of the shell first? Also, do I need to sprout them?

> > >

> > >Thanks,

> > >Barbara

> > >

> >

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In a message dated 6/25/01 8:47:17 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

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Well, that may be stretching it a bit. Buttered popcorn used to be one of my

favorite things! But they are a nice snack.

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I do the same thing with my pumpkin seeds, don't like them

raw. Toast them myself on the stove, quick and easy and a most wonderful treat!

I buy them raw at Whole Foods, better than popcorn!

--Lilla

I found that I can get raw pumpkin seeds easily at the local produce

stand.

they are reasonably priced, but not very tasty raw, in my

opinion. So I

heated about three drops of olive oil in a heavy fry pan and toasted them

on

top of the stove. I am sure that the oven would work, but not in

the summer

time in my house! LOL Just toast over medium heat and

stir constantly. The

made a little popping sound (shades of popcorn in my pre ER4YT days)

swelled

up a bit and turned from bright green to a brownish green. I am

sure they

would burn quickly, so don't leave the stove even for a

minute. I added a

touch of garlic salt once and cumin another time. They are very

tasty. I

keep them in the refrigerator once they are toasted and store the raw ones

in

the freezer.

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In a message dated 11/01/2001 8:02:47 PM Central Standard Time,

AICFan@... writes:

> I believe I have read that all nuts and seeds have enzyme inhibitors and the

> only

> way to circumvent that is to soak at least six hours before eating.

>

Nuts and seeds have always been a challenge for me. First, Kane

stressed the import of eating them raw so that the oils in them are not made

rancid by high temps. Then Elaine Gottschall (Spedific Carbohydrate Diet)

stressed the general difficulty of digesting nuts and seeds. Then Fallon and

Enig of Nourishing Traditions fame stressed the need to soak them, using some

process that failed miserably for me.

A few things I've learned that work for me now: at night I soak sesame and

sunflower seeds in the blender with bottled water for the morning's fruit

smoothie; I use almond flour, which is raw but finely ground, as often as I

can (mix with homos (sp?) and enzymes before meals); and just lately I've

been buying macademia nuts that are high in good oils (though they've been

roasted, an astute poster on another board recommends the Mauna Loi ? brand

highly).

Since I'm unable so far to tolerate any EFA supplements, I try to include

nuts and seeds as much as possible. If anyone else has personal recs along

this line to share, I'd be delighted.

n

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>>My son cant tolerate sesamie

> seeds, sunflower seeds or flax oil so I asked around and came up

with

> a consensus that he was having a reaction to the pumpkin seeds.(even

> had a small rash on his butt) My question for you is could this be a

> delayed reaction to the enzymes? or do you agree that it is probably

> still from the seeds.

My son does not tolerate sesame, sunflower, flax, or pumpkin, even

with enzymes. So even if I gave him pumpkin seeds with enzymes, I

would see a return of old behaviors. So yes, I would definitely think

that it was the pumpkin seeds.

Dana

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At 09:00 PM 11/1/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>I believe I have read that all nuts and seeds have enzyme inhibitors and the

>only

>way to circumvent that is to soak at least six hours before eating.

>

>Celia

Hmmm. Do you have any references for that. I give him cashew nut butter

sandwiches and I include enzymes, but what if they have no effect because

of the cashew butter?

Avril

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Here is one that is quite long on the American Diet and includes the

following:http://www.allocca.com/amerdiet.txt

Copyright © 1995, 1999 all rights are reserved.

A. Allocca, Sc.D., Ph.D., C.C.N.

Medical Research Scientist, Certified Clinical Nutritionist

" Not all raw food can be eaten directly. Seeds and nuts contain

enzymeinhibitors. Eating seeds and nuts with enzyme inhibitors cause

the pancreas to secrete digestive enzymes, leading to a decrease in

the supply of metabolic enzymes. Raw seeds and nuts contain starch,

which is a storage product and a source of future energy when

conditions become ideal for them to germinate and grow into a plant.

Enzymes are present in raw seeds and nuts but are prevented from

being active by the presence of enzyme inhibitors. Germination

(soaking in water) for 24 hours neutralizes the inhibitors and

releases the enzymes. Germination also greatly increases the enzyme

action. "

I also read a Pubmed article that said that roasting peanuts greatly

enhanced their resistance to gastrotract digestion over that of raw

peanuts - about 60-fold. So I suppose you can soak seeds and raw

nuts, but I am not sure that plopping a jar of peanut butter in a

pan of water overnight will help. Nut butters are pretty smashed up

to begin with.

.

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Most of my knowledge of nuts and seeds comes from what I've read in ayurvedic

articles and books. I know there is also some references to soaking nuts and

seeds in the raw/living foods literature.

Ayurveda considers all nuts and seeds to be difficult to digest, even when

soaked,

due to their heavy, oily nature. They do all have different healing

properties when used in small amounts. Almonds are supposed to be the

easiest to digest and are very high in calcium. It is recommended to soak

almonds to make them more digestible and to allow the skins to be peeled off

(almond skins are considered toxic).

Also, pumpkin seeds have anthelmintic properties -- herbalists use them to

expel

parasites. This could also be the reason some kids react to them -- there

might

be somewhat of a die-off going on.

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I also just roast them in the oven with no oil. Occasionally I will spray

them with Bragg All Purpose Seasoning just for a change of flavor. They are

fun to roast cause they pop . . . much like popcorn and then they have a

different texture than unroasted.

Trish

Pumpkin seeds

Take the green seeds out of the white shells, and eat them raw!

-R

On Sunday, October 13, 2002, at 02:09 PM, Lowell Barron wrote:

> Just cooked 2 small pumpkins with the seeds in them and am wondering

> what to do with the seeds....would rather not roast them with any oil

> because of damage to oil from heat. Any suggestions? Thanks, Ann

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Thanks...will try...I was wondering why they did not look like the ones in the

store! Trish, do you shell them before or after roasting?

----- Original Message -----

From: Trish Waddell

I also just roast them in the oven with no oil.

From: " Darius Partovi " <rpartovi@...>

Take the green seeds out of the white shells, and eat them raw!

-R

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Hi

I usually buy the raw and shelled . . . but in the " olden days " , when we got

the seeds from the jack-o-lantern pumpkin we would roast them in the shell .

.. . they were so fresh that the shell was very tender and no problem to eat.

Trish

Re: Pumpkin seeds

> Thanks...will try...I was wondering why they did not look like the ones in

the store! Trish, do you shell them before or after roasting?

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Trish Waddell

>

> I also just roast them in the oven with no oil.

>

> From: " Darius Partovi " <rpartovi@...>

>

> Take the green seeds out of the white shells, and eat them raw!

>

> -R

>

>

>

>

>

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You pulverise an ounce and take them in the morning on an empty stomach. In

porridge is fine.

I just chewed them well all day and when I felt very nauseous at bedtime I

realised I had had enough!

Maybe that is how I had no sign of parasites after getting a zapper.I think I

went through the whole packet like that.

dr now says that we should be seeing lots of parasites or we have not got

them all.

One patient had grey honeycomb stools after taking cysteine.

Liz

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Re: pumpkin seeds

You pulverise an ounce and take them in the morning on an empty stomach. In

porridge is fine.

I just chewed them well all day and when I felt very nauseous at bedtime I

realised I had had enough!

Maybe that is how I had no sign of parasites after getting a zapper.I think I

went through the whole packet like that. dr now says that we should be

seeing lots of parasites or we have not got them all.One patient had grey

honeycomb stools after taking cysteine.

Liz

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm beginning to really wonder about all this as I've done everything short of

turning myself inside out and I haven't seen one damn parasite..that I could

actually point at say.. " WoW..there's a parasite " ..

Why is that? I've seen all kinds of weird stuff but all of it indescrbable..As

someone has suggested on here; perhaps when the worms or whatever are killed

farther up in the digestive tracts; they are disolved in our acidic bodily

digestive fluids..Hmmmm? I've had some very " grey " looking stool which sort of

shocked me at their appearance..Maybe that's evidence of parasites being

eliminated; I dont' know..

melville ;-)

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Hi Liz;

I'm finding this business about worms getting a little out of hand..If one is

not careful, our war against the " evil " parasites can become quite " religious " ;

causing us to go to extremes which we all have a tendency to do anyway. Surely

there are " beneficial " parasites that have always been with us and in fact are

necessary for our natural bowel functions..What I've found is that the more I

tried eliminating parasites (so that I could actually see them); the more

constipated and " impacted " I became..I have since determined that one need not

necessarily " see these worms etc.. " to know that the harmful parasites are gone;

but to accept it by " faith " in that we have followed the methods whereby the

parasites should have been expelled and have been..NOw that I have stopped

further agravating my system; it is returning to normal..This is not to say that

I will not try the pumpkin seeds just as further protection against that " evil "

ascaris..Yikes..What do you think of my " reasoning " ?

melville..

Re: pumpkin seeds

One of my patients had grey honeycomb stools which I took to be the remains of

worms as she was on cysteine --six a day between meals

Liz

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Hi Mel,

I think your experience is the opposite of what Dr says ( I waded through

all her books).

The naturopaths say that the stool should be thin and ribbon-like and frequent.

Stress can make people comstipated so I guess we should not worry about it.

liz

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<<What is the best way to get a 15 month or 3 year old to eat them?>>

I'll bet that you don't have any difficulty getting them to eat pop corn, and

pumpkin seeds are more palatable than that. Try them as a plain snack. I

was eating them by at least three. They are delicious.

If you have to mix enough oil with them to give them to children that age,

are you doing more harm than good?

Jay

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I've never heard of this! Thanks for sharing! :)

On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:42:33 -1000 <cynthia808@...>

writes:

> ALoha Folks,

>

> I just couldn't lurk another second...don't you guys know about

> PEPITAS?

> (this is a mexican way of preparing pumkin seeds. ) Pepitas are one

> of the

> most delicious ways to incorperate pumpkin seeds into your diet

> everyday.

>

> I take my most favorite small cast iron frying pan and heat it up on

> my

> electric stove. when it's medium hot, (no oil now), throw a couple

> of

> handfull of seeds in the pan and toast them, stirring them from the

> bottom

> with a wide flat turner. In about 2 minutes you will experience the

> Pepitas

> popping...when they toast they actually pop and snap into a lovely

> little

> crunchy footballs. Wow on top of brown rice, or amazing topping all

> salads.

> After I make up a bowl I notice I can't stop going by for one more

> little

> handfull. Yummy!

>

> I throw them my the handfulls into the blender to add to my whole

> grain

> waffles and pancakes, not only am I hiding powerful nutrition into

> my kid's

> food, it's a medicine as well.

>

> cynthia

>

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In a message dated 4/25/2003 12:08:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

s.blakely@... writes:

> Doesn't the cooking destroy the medicinal properties? I know that cooking

> garlic does.

>

I don't know about the value of pumpkin seed raw vs. cooked, but why anyone

would want to cook them is beyond me. They are delicious just raw and would

make a wonderful salad topping that way, though imagine that chopped would be

easier to handle than whole. They are very similar in taste to raw sunflower

seeds only meatier.

Garlic has more than 30 beneficial elements and they are still studying their

uses. The most well known of these is allicin. The allicin is not released

in the garlic clove until it is peeled. The University of North Carolina

found that by peeling the garlic and letting it stand for 10 minutes while

the allicin works its way through all the clove, that its benefits will

remain after cooking. Also, the allicin dissipates once it has reached its

full " bloom " and if left for 24 hours it is almost nonexistent. Buying

peeled garlic is a waste of money. By the way, studies have found that raw

garlic rids the body of heavy metals including lead. It also gets you room

in crowded elevators. :-)

Jay

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Thanks for the info. I have done 3 parasite cleanses since last July as

per Dr. 's protocol. Have seen at least 6 different types of parasites

and still am having a problem with 2 types. Just unreal. Also had the honeycomb

stools during the second last cleanse. I know I am making headway, just want

tobe parasite free.

Phyllis

In a message dated 5/25/03 8:42:55 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

jonah@... writes:

> Awhile back, there was a lot of talk about pumpkin seeds to handle

> parasites. I just purchased some green pumpkin seeds, did I get the right

> ones for

> handling parasites and does anyone know how much someone should take per

> day?

> Phyllis

>

> Re: pumpkin seeds

>

>

> You pulverise an ounce and take them in the morning on an empty stomach. In

> porridge is fine.

> I just chewed them well all day and when I felt very nauseous at bedtime I

> realised I had had enough!

> Maybe that is how I had no sign of parasites after getting a zapper.I think

> I went through the whole packet like that. dr now says that we should

> be seeing lots of parasites or we have not got them all.One patient had grey

> honeycomb stools after taking cysteine.

> Liz

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> ---

>

>

> I'm beginning to really wonder about all this as I've done everything short

> of turning myself inside out and I haven't seen one damn parasite..that I

> could actually point at say.. " WoW..there's a parasite " ..

> Why is that? I've seen all kinds of weird stuff but all of it

> indescrbable..As someone has suggested on here; perhaps when the worms or

whatever are

> killed farther up in the digestive tracts; they are disolved in our acidic

bodily

> digestive fluids..Hmmmm? I've had some very " grey " looking stool which sort

> of shocked me at their appearance..Maybe that's evidence of parasites being

> eliminated; I dont' know..

> melville ;-)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Re: pumpkin seeds

You pulverise an ounce and take them in the morning on an empty stomach. In

porridge is fine.

I just chewed them well all day and when I felt very nauseous at bedtime I

realised I had had enough!

Maybe that is how I had no sign of parasites after getting a zapper.I think I

went through the whole packet like that. dr now says that we should be

seeing lots of parasites or we have not got them all.One patient had grey

honeycomb stools after taking cysteine.

Liz

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm beginning to really wonder about all this as I've done everything short of

turning myself inside out and I haven't seen one damn parasite..that I could

actually point at say.. " WoW..there's a parasite " ..

Why is that? I've seen all kinds of weird stuff but all of it indescrbable..As

someone has suggested on here; perhaps when the worms or whatever are killed

farther up in the digestive tracts; they are disolved in our acidic bodily

digestive fluids..Hmmmm? I've had some very " grey " looking stool which sort of

shocked me at their appearance..Maybe that's evidence of parasites being

eliminated; I dont' know..

melville ;-)

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should the seeds be green or white

Pumpkin seeds

Awhile back, there was a lot of talk about pumpkin seeds to handle

parasites. I just purchased some green pumpkin seeds, did I get the right

ones for

handling parasites and does anyone know how much someone should take per day?

Phyllis

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