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Hi Sueko - I eat some sprouted grains and beans, but probably not

enough. I'll try more. Hemp seed is great, but I haven't found it

in the store for awhile. I'll have to look elsewhere. Thanks for

the information.

> > >

> > > I LOVE this group! I get a lot of email and often skip over

it,

> but

> > > this group always has something interesting going on. Anyway,

> with

> > > sprouts being such an important part of our diet, I was just

> > curious,

> > > how many of us are raw foodies? People have identified

themselves

> as

> > > high raw, pure, 80% and all that, let's just say for the sake

of

> > > argument, if your diet consists of approximately 75% or more

raw

> > food,

> > > how many of us are there on this group?

> > >

> >

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Hi Sueko - I eat some sprouted grains and beans, but probably not

enough. I'll try more. Hemp seed is great, but I haven't found it

in the store for awhile. I'll have to look elsewhere. Thanks for

the information.

> > >

> > > I LOVE this group! I get a lot of email and often skip over

it,

> but

> > > this group always has something interesting going on. Anyway,

> with

> > > sprouts being such an important part of our diet, I was just

> > curious,

> > > how many of us are raw foodies? People have identified

themselves

> as

> > > high raw, pure, 80% and all that, let's just say for the sake

of

> > > argument, if your diet consists of approximately 75% or more

raw

> > food,

> > > how many of us are there on this group?

> > >

> >

>

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I'm moving towards " mostly raw " , and am now on day 52 of a 92 day juice

feast (nothing but green juices). I'm healthier than I've ever been

since high school - - and I'm 44 - - and have never felt better, so

this is huge inspiration for me to " go raw " . For at least these 92

days, I'm 100% raw, and sprouts are a big part of it for me.

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Please tell us more about what you are doing.

I'm very interested, & I'm sure every one in this group will

be also.

Henry

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> I'm moving towards " mostly raw " , and am now on day 52 of a 92 day juice

> feast (nothing but green juices). I'm healthier than I've ever been

> since high school - - and I'm 44 - - and have never felt better, so

> this is huge inspiration for me to " go raw " . For at least these 92

> days, I'm 100% raw, and sprouts are a big part of it for me.

>

>

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>

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Wow, I always thought that olive oil was good for us.  What is the problem with

it?  My husband uses it as a cure-all " medication " .  I'm interested in knowing

this new-to-me info.

Thank you

From: sueko95965 <sueko222@...>

Subject: Re: Raw Foodies?

Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 4:27 PM

Sparrow -- I wanted to tell you that you need never run out of raw food

again......you know how to sprout! Take those whole vegan dried beans

and grains and sprout them! I have days in a row where I eat nothing but

the sprouts I have grown myself. It is so economical to feed yourself

this way. Also, if you go to rawfamily.com, Boutenko has just

posted a list of what she bought to get her family through the winter

(in other words, you're not dependent on getting to the market for the

fresh produce) which included quite a few different seeds, nuts and

grains for sprouting.

I, too, am recovering from diabetes, have been 100% raw for about a year

and a half and have been using Dr. Cousens' books as a guideline. I am

beginning to add in some fruits again, mostly in the form of green

smoothies and sometimes a little fruit with my sprouted buckwheat

granola (I make my own) and almond mylk. I also use flax or hemp oil on

my salads, almost never use olive oil since I learned what harm it can

do to arteries especially in diabetics. When I first started his

program, the results were so incredible that I went through my cupboards

and whatever I couldn't continue to use in some way on a raw diet, I

boxed up and gave away to friends that really needed some food. I

invested about $150 in Sproutpeople. com and now, over a year later, I

still have plenty of fresh sprouted veggies daily. I especially love

the crunch of lentil sprouts. Last week I made Southwestern sprouted

black bean burgers and they were so delicious that I'm starting another

batch of black bean sprouts today. So there are many ways to make it

work without having to wait for that ride to the market!

> >

> > Anyway, with

> > sprouts being such an important part of our diet, I was just

curious,

> > how many of us are raw foodies?

>

> I'm in transition. I've had strings of all-raw days but still only

> have a limited repertoire of foods I know how to make and know I will

> enjoy (and am really needing to expand my kitchen tools.) I also still

> have a pantry full of whole vegan foods like dried beans that I fall

> back on when I run out of raw food to eat.

>

> I think my body has decided it likes the raw food better as I'm

> currently spending a couple of uncomfortable days on cooked food that

> used to give me a " glow " but now just gives me digestive distress. I'm

> waiting for Friday when my husband will be able to take us to the

> grocery again (he's disabled, the grocery is five miles away, I don't

> drive.) Then I can stock up again on all the lovely greens,

> vegetables,and fruit that are becoming my new diet staples. (Light on

> the fruit, though, because I'm recovering from diabetes and Dr.

> Cousens recommends few fruits (and mostly lower glycemic fruits), no

> oil, and light on the avocados, seeds and nuts (about 20% fat in the

> diet) for those of us in the process of conquering diabetes.)

>

> I really love the way I feel and function when I'm fully raw, but I'm

> having a hard time shifting to an attitude of abundance. With my

> husband's disability, it's hit-or-miss when I get to buy more food and

> raw produce doesn't stay good as long as the dried beans and grains

> that have been the staple of my diet until now. I think I will

> continue to have difficulties transitioning until I am able to shift

> away from a position of fear of and even some anticipation of lack.

>

> Sparrow

>

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Thia - Thanks so much for that great website, which I've been

playing around with. It lists almost all of the foods that I eat.

Although it is missing some of the nutrients, it has shown me a

great deal about many nutrients that I am deficient in - especially

vitamin B12 (even though I do eat some meat). It is great for

learning to tweek your foods to get better nutrition. It sure takes

a lot of work to learn how to eat right, especially if one is on a

limited type diet.

Barb

>

> > I've started eating mostly raw foods about 1 year ago. I feel

a lot

> > better, but I have gotten so thin. Raw foods don't put much

weight on

> > a person, and they take forever to eat. I've got food going into

my

> > mouth most of the day. Lots of salads. Anyone know of more

fattening

> > foods other than coconut, nuts, oils, and avocado. I sprout my

beans

> > and grains. Don't know how many carbs are in these sprouts, but

I'm

> > feeling I may be short on carbs. Any other raw foods people have

> > trouble keeping weight on?

> >

> > Barb

> >

> > -

> >

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On 10/9/08, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote:

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> Makes me wonder what the fat in a typical SAD (standard american diet) would

> be on those charts.

Typical SAD is usually between 35% and 50% fat, depending on how much

fried food a person eats, fast food restaurants, etc. The U.S.

government used to tell people to limit their fat to 30% of total

calories but recently increased it to 40% -- not because they found

that fat was healthier, but because they realized that almost no one

was eating 30% and didn't want to discourage those eating 50% from

cutting back. (Probably significant pressure from agricultural groups

as well, since it's difficult to eat the amount of beef, eggs, milk,

etc. that those industries tell us to eat and still stay below 30% fat

by calories.)

I've noticed that raw food diets significantly vary in fat

percentages. I've seen some as high as 80% fat by calories. It's

really easy to get high fat on a raw diet because the non-fat foods

(fruits, vegetables, SPROUTS! (yum)) have relatively few calories and

the calorie-dense foods tend to be very fatty (ex. macadmia nuts are

95% fat.) Eating one avocado per day requires well over 2000 calories

of other low-fat foods to bring the percentage down to 30% and it can

be hard to get 2000 calories of fruits and vegetables down.

In the few years that I've been paying attention to raw food (working

up the courage to jump into the pool myself, so to speak) I've noticed

a shift from diets heavy in nuts, seeds, and avocadoes to more and

more " raw gurus " talking about the dangers of too much fat, even in

raw form. It will be very interesting to see where the public

discourse on the topic ends up after all the dust settles.

Sparrow

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I'm a type 2 diabetic. Have been through all the health and nutrition

classes and olive oil was never said to be bad for me. However, in all

thing too much is bad.

ew

Re: Raw Foodies?

Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 4:27 PM

Sparrow -- I wanted to tell you that you need never run out of raw

food

again......you know how to sprout! Take those whole vegan dried beans

and grains and sprout them! I have days in a row where I eat nothing

but

the sprouts I have grown myself. It is so economical to feed yourself

this way. Also, if you go to rawfamily.com, Boutenko has

just

posted a list of what she bought to get her family through the winter

(in other words, you're not dependent on getting to the market for

the

fresh produce) which included quite a few different seeds, nuts and

grains for sprouting.

I, too, am recovering from diabetes, have been 100% raw for about a

year

and a half and have been using Dr. Cousens' books as a guideline. I

am

beginning to add in some fruits again, mostly in the form of green

smoothies and sometimes a little fruit with my sprouted buckwheat

granola (I make my own) and almond mylk. I also use flax or hemp oil

on

my salads, almost never use olive oil since I learned what harm it

can

do to arteries especially in diabetics. When I first started his

program, the results were so incredible that I went through my

cupboards

and whatever I couldn't continue to use in some way on a raw diet, I

boxed up and gave away to friends that really needed some food. I

invested about $150 in Sproutpeople. com and now, over a year later,

I

still have plenty of fresh sprouted veggies daily. I especially love

the crunch of lentil sprouts. Last week I made Southwestern sprouted

black bean burgers and they were so delicious that I'm starting

another

batch of black bean sprouts today. So there are many ways to make it

work without having to wait for that ride to the market!

> >

> > Anyway, with

> > sprouts being such an important part of our diet, I was just

curious,

> > how many of us are raw foodies?

>

> I'm in transition. I've had strings of all-raw days but still only

> have a limited repertoire of foods I know how to make and know I

will

> enjoy (and am really needing to expand my kitchen tools.) I also

still

> have a pantry full of whole vegan foods like dried beans that I

fall

> back on when I run out of raw food to eat.

>

> I think my body has decided it likes the raw food better as I'm

> currently spending a couple of uncomfortable days on cooked food

that

> used to give me a " glow " but now just gives me digestive distress.

I'm

> waiting for Friday when my husband will be able to take us to the

> grocery again (he's disabled, the grocery is five miles away, I

don't

> drive.) Then I can stock up again on all the lovely greens,

> vegetables,and fruit that are becoming my new diet staples. (Light

on

> the fruit, though, because I'm recovering from diabetes and Dr.

> Cousens recommends few fruits (and mostly lower glycemic fruits),

no

> oil, and light on the avocados, seeds and nuts (about 20% fat in

the

> diet) for those of us in the process of conquering diabetes.)

>

> I really love the way I feel and function when I'm fully raw, but

I'm

> having a hard time shifting to an attitude of abundance. With my

> husband's disability, it's hit-or-miss when I get to buy more food

and

> raw produce doesn't stay good as long as the dried beans and grains

> that have been the staple of my diet until now. I think I will

> continue to have difficulties transitioning until I am able to

shift

> away from a position of fear of and even some anticipation of lack.

>

> Sparrow

>

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On 10/13/08, Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> wrote:

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> I'm a type 2 diabetic. Have been through all the health and nutrition

> classes and olive oil was never said to be bad for me. However, in all

> thing too much is bad.

The cutting edge diabetes nutrition information coming out from people

like Dr. Barnard and Dr. McDougall says to avoid all oils. I started

out following Dr. Barnard's advice back in January and it really

brought my blood sugars down. Afterward, I noticed that if I ate oils,

my blood sugars went up for four days afterward.

Sparrow

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You are most welcome. And I agree, it is indeed valuable in tweaking your

daily dietary intake.

:~)

Thia

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:46 AM, bhans2 <bhans2@...> wrote:

> Thia - Thanks so much for that great website, which I've been

> playing around with. ... It is great for

> learning to tweek your foods to get better nutrition.

>

>

>

>

> > http://www.fitday.com You can see all sorts of

> things about what you eat, from this site.

>

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Hi ,

 

Please let me know what exactly you are doing. I want to be guided by your

example.

 

It appears simply wonderful and thus very useful.

 

Thanks.

 

Gopal

From: zensibilia <TLongshore@...>

Subject: Re: Raw Foodies?

Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:15 PM

I'm moving towards " mostly raw " , and am now on day 52 of a 92 day juice

feast (nothing but green juices). I'm healthier than I've ever been

since high school - - and I'm 44 - - and have never felt better, so

this is huge inspiration for me to " go raw " . For at least these 92

days, I'm 100% raw, and sprouts are a big part of it for me.

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> Hi ,

>  

> Please let me know what exactly you are doing. I want to be guided

by your example.

>  

> It appears simply wonderful and thus very useful.

>  

> Thanks.

>  

> Gopal

I apologize to anyone who asked for more information - - I haven't

been around for a little while. I will tell you a few things about

the Juice Feast, and then tell you how to get more information. This

is a long post, but I wanted to be thorough. Skim if you want! :)

Today is Day 59 for me, of a 92 day feast. You can go on the feast

for any length of time you like, and feel really good about what you

are doing for your body. I embarked on a 92-day feast, like many

others, because of the deep cleansing and healing your body does in

three months. I feel like I could go forever...the first few days

were tough, as I adjusted to not eating, but after that, it became a

wonderful routine.

I am not suffering from any major illnesses, though that is a reason

that many people go on the Juice Feast. You might be astonished to

know how many people have cured themselves of illnesses, gotten

themselves off of medications, and lived when they were told to go

home and wait to die. I am lucky enough to have done it strictly for

improving my already " pretty good " health.

I started out about 50 pounds overweight, and in 59 days I have

released over 30 pounds. (I hate to say I " lost " the weight, as if I

didn't know where it went, or as if I might want to find it again). I

have never felt better in my entire life of 44 years. People that

know me are commenting on my skin, of all things, and how wonderful

it looks. I used to break out in hives when I became too cold, too

hot, or too stressed, and that has gone away. My hair and nails are

stronger and in wonderful condition. I have energy that I haven't had

for two decades (I have a four-year old, so that's been a wonderful

benefit to the feast).

I drink " green juices " , almost exclusively. It's much more important

to drink vegetable juices than fruit. In fact, a person really trying

to cleanse and heal should not have the fruit juices, for various

reasons (candidiasis, sugar, etc.). The green juices, and the various

supplements one might choose are all a person needs. Supplements I

take are spirulina powder (so fantastic for you), MSM powder, cayenne

and lemon water, and a superfood powder. It does take some getting

used to, but I find myself craving my green juice. In the spirit of

honesty, I can tell you that there are some people who have a harder

time with the taste of green juice than I do, and those people should

just " tweak " their vegetable combinations to see if they can make

them more palatable.

The program I participate in recommends at least four quarts of green

juice per day, which is what I consume. The Juice Feast is about

abundance (rather than the somewhat necessary deprivation of a juice

fast), so if someone were to find themselves hungry, more juice is

perfectly fine.

We juice using a juicer (Omega), but many people juice using a

VitaMix blender, and straining the pulp out with a Nut Mylk bag.

Either is fine, and has its advantages.

My husband and I spend about an hour and a half juicing each morning.

Between the two of us, we juice over 25 pounds of produce to create 8

quarts. (Thank goodness he is doing a modified Juice Feast with me,

meaning that he drinks all the juice, and eats one meal a day, with

tremendous results. His blood pressure, cholesterol and weight are

all down significantly. Keep it in mind if you don't think you could

do a full-on Juice Feast, but realize you won't experience the same

level of cleansing and healing with a modified Feast.)

I can anticipate two things that people are thinking right now:

1) Isn't that expensive?! Well, perhaps. Produce is not cheap, and we

are using organic produce whenever possible. But think of this: it's

ALL you are consuming, you won't be eating out (I still go out with

family and friends, but have tea), it's temporary, and it's for your

health!

2) Isn't it time consuming? Yes, in the morning, it's a feat to get

the juice made. But then, I'm done worrying about what I eat for the

entire day! If I weren't feeding my 4-year-old (and boy, is she

eating well, with all the produce in the house), I wouldn't be

worrying about food for the rest of the day! It's empowering and

freeing. Also, I use the time spent juicing to talk to my husband, or

to think.

If anybody has actually made it this far into the longest post in the

world, here are a couple of bits of information:

juicefeasting.com is the site you can go to for more information.

Because I am on a pretty serious Juice Feast, I paid to subscribe,

but you can get an enormous amount of information for free from the

site.

If anyone's interested, I'm blogging my experience here:

http://zensibilia.blogspot.com/

If anyone has questions, fire away. I hope this inspires someone to

try Juice Feasting! Best wishes,

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> Please tell us more about what you are doing.

> I'm very interested, & I'm sure every one in this group will

> be also.

> Henry

Henry, sorry to be so late to respond. If you haven't already, please

see my response to Gopal, which I just posted. Best wishes,

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Are you losing fat? Or are you losing muscle?

How is your energy levels? How is your strength? How is your

endurance? How is your mental clarity? Is it consistent or sporatic?

I am 5 foot 2 inches tall and 100lbs. People sometimes tell me " You

are so skinny, you need to put some weight on. " As if I was unaware

of it or something. According to 'the charts' of Health Canada I am

underweight. But I am not under fat. I am under muscled.

I will become 110 lbs but it will be because I have gained muscle

weight not fat weight. I have enough of a fat layer to keep me

warm. I am 'skinny' but I am not cold. It is not fat I need to

cushion my ass when I sit down. It is toned muscles. I know. I

have been 100 lb with more muscle tone and sitting was comfortable on

a hard surface. It currently is not confortable to sit on a hard

surface as I lack tone.

I have been 130 lb at my heaviest. It did not feel good, my thighs

aggravated each other, I was concerned about the well being of my

knees. Because of recurring experiences of Crohn's disease and being

fed up with them, I went to a naturopath and was tested for food

sensitivies and altered my frequency of certain foods. I dropped

weight. He said I would as my body came into balance, he predicted

10 lbs loss, I lost 20. I felt great. Six months later, I went off

the 'diet' because of emotional issues and began eating all that I

had stopped.

I am not vegan, I am not a raw foodist. I am not ready to be 'well'

When the time is right, I will predominently eat plants, when the

time is right, I will eat more live raw foods.

You all on the site inspire those of us who are not yet ready but

give us hope that it can be done when the time is right.

Thanks.

>

> I've started eating mostly raw foods about 1 year ago. I feel a

lot

> better, but I have gotten so thin. Raw foods don't put much weight

on

> a person, and they take forever to eat. I've got food going into

my

> mouth most of the day. Lots of salads. Anyone know of more

fattening

> foods other than coconut, nuts, oils, and avocado. I sprout my

beans

> and grains. Don't know how many carbs are in these sprouts, but

I'm

> feeling I may be short on carbs. Any other raw foods people have

> trouble keeping weight on?

>

>> > how many of us are there on this group?

> >

>

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I would be fascinated as to see your menus and recipes for an average

month. Do you have a blog or something where you might have this

information available?

>

> Hi! We are a family with 4 children (7, 5, 3 and 10 months old). We

are

> eating about 90-95% vegan raw. We had periods of 2 weeks to 3

months

> wher we did 100% raw. The energy you have is amazing and the only

times

> the children are very rearely sick (those are the time when we eat

> something we usualyy don't)! With raw food you really feel your

body

> clean and nourished. We started about 3 years ago and never

regretted

> it. The only reson for us to eat some cooked food (usually

vegetables

> or sometime pasta or rice) is a matter of organization. We all

think

> it's great and the kids really enjoy it! Even our Great Dane is

doing

> great on a vegan 70-80% raw food diet!

> Go and check Alissa Cohen, Wolfe and Sherie Soria. They are

the

> best for us! Their books explain why raw and have some amazing

> recepies. The Butenco family has an interesting story too.

>

> Have a great day!

>

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Where did you get a recipe for sprouted black bean burgers? I don't

have any black beans could I use another bean?

>. . . .

> I

> invested about $150 in Sproutpeople.com and now, over a year later, I

> still have plenty of fresh sprouted veggies daily. I especially love

> the crunch of lentil sprouts. Last week I made Southwestern sprouted

> black bean burgers and they were so delicious that I'm starting

another

> batch of black bean sprouts today. So there are many ways to make it

> work without having to wait for that ride to the market!

>

>

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On 11/1/08, <bctoadlover@...> wrote:

>

> Are you losing fat? Or are you losing muscle?

Since I seem to have made it through the transition and have been

above 90% raw for the last couple of weeks, I figured I'd chime in.

But remember that I'm VERY new at this, so remember to listen with a

critical mind to anything I say since nothing I'm doing has stood the

test of long time yet.

I seem to be losing weight at roughly the same speed as I was on a

cooked diet, but my cooked diet was pretty clean: low-fat whole-foods

vegan. I still have some pretty big muscles under the layers of fat (I

put on a lot of muscle fairly easily. I think I'm a cross between

endomorph and mesomorph), but it's only been a couple of weeks so it

will take time to see what's going and what's staying.

> How is your energy levels? How is your strength? How is your

> endurance? How is your mental clarity? Is it consistent or sporatic?

Oh, man. I mean, OH man! Energy levels are one of the things I've been

raving to everyone who will listen. I have been waking up refreshed

after six hours' sleep (I used to be a ten-to-twelve hour a day

sleeper and had just assumed that was the cost of hitting middle age.)

I have about twenty minutes of drowsy time in the late afternoon but I

can either drink some cool water and breathe my way through it and it

passes or I can lay down for a nap but I don't have to set a timer

because an hour later I'm totally refreshed and itching to get up and

do something.

My strength really seems to have increased and I would normally chalk

that up to conditioning because I bicycle everywhere, but the change

has been so sudden. Hills that used to really take it out of me are no

big deal now and that's been practically an overnight change. My right

knee quit hurting except for one day when I had a bean burrito and my

knee hurt that day. I don't know if the two are connected or not, but

it's a very interesting correlation to see that the only day I've had

joint pains has been the day I ate something cooked.

I'm very curious to see if I continue to feel so vibrant or if it

stays at this level so that I get used to it and don't notice the

vibrance any more. Or if it levels off and comes back down. This is a

new and exciting journey for me and I'm just eager to see where it

goes.

> I am 5 foot 2 inches tall and 100lbs. People sometimes tell me " You

> are so skinny, you need to put some weight on. " As if I was unaware

> of it or something. According to 'the charts' of Health Canada I am

> underweight. But I am not under fat. I am under muscled.

Using BMI figures (which, I know, are not meant for individual use --

they're intended for aggregate statistical purposes) you're right on

the edge. The dividing line between underweight and normal weight for

your height is 102 pounds. Regardless, it seems awfully rude of people

to say that to you. What is it about underweight (or the perception of

underweight) that makes people feel it's okay to be rude? I'm 185

pounds and 5'6 " -- right on the BMI dividing line between overweight

and obese -- and it is very rare that anyone tells me I'm overweight

or fat and when they do, there's no doubting they mean it as an insult

because it's usually shouted along with select invectives. People know

it's rude to tell me I'm overweight (not that I care. I know I'm

overweight. But I used to weigh over 300 pounds, so I'm just thrilled

to be still alive and releasing weight now.) but they don't seem to

register that it's rude to tell someone else they're underweight

(unless they're that person's doctor, of course.)

> I am not vegan, I am not a raw foodist. I am not ready to be 'well'

>

> When the time is right, I will predominently eat plants, when the

> time is right, I will eat more live raw foods.

That is so true about the time being right. Everything has to align

for a person to be ready. Those are big lifestyle changes you're

talking about and it's just not so helpful to try to force it before

" the chick is ready to hatch. " You will know when you are ready.

It's awesome that you're doing sprouts. That will put you several

steps ahead of the learning curve when you finally do feel ready to

make other changes. I love my sprouts and am eager to try more. I

have some wheatgrass growing and it's got little, tiny blades of green

but it's frustrating because I feel like it should be growing much

faster than it is. After super-quick sprouts like quinoa, I guess I

need to learn a little more kitchen garden patience for the

wheatgrass. Does anyone here do wheatgrass as sprouts? Like 2-3 days

of growing? Are they good that way? Are the wheat berries crunchy or

chewy or what when you eat them as sprouts?

I started something new today as well, some red lentils. They are so

tiny compared to my brown lentils! Every time I try growing something

new, there's an anxiousness as I wait to see if it really will grow.

LOL! I know I can sprout because I do it every day, but there's still

an amazement when I see the little shoots coming out from something I

haven't tried before. It's like I invented the wheel or made the sun

rise that morning or something. :-)

Sparrow

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Good job on the weight loss, !  Have a healthy and happy leap year,

Barbara

>

> Are you losing fat? Or are you losing muscle?

Since I seem to have made it through the transition and have been

above 90% raw for the last couple of weeks, I figured I'd chime in.

But remember that I'm VERY new at this, so remember to listen with a

critical mind to anything I say since nothing I'm doing has stood the

test of long time yet.

I seem to be losing weight at roughly the same speed as I was on a

cooked diet, but my cooked diet was pretty clean: low-fat whole-foods

vegan. I still have some pretty big muscles under the layers of fat (I

put on a lot of muscle fairly easily. I think I'm a cross between

endomorph and mesomorph), but it's only been a couple of weeks so it

will take time to see what's going and what's staying.

> How is your energy levels? How is your strength? How is your

> endurance? How is your mental clarity? Is it consistent or sporatic?

Oh, man. I mean, OH man! Energy levels are one of the things I've been

raving to everyone who will listen. I have been waking up refreshed

after six hours' sleep (I used to be a ten-to-twelve hour a day

sleeper and had just assumed that was the cost of hitting middle age.)

I have about twenty minutes of drowsy time in the late afternoon but I

can either drink some cool water and breathe my way through it and it

passes or I can lay down for a nap but I don't have to set a timer

because an hour later I'm totally refreshed and itching to get up and

do something.

My strength really seems to have increased and I would normally chalk

that up to conditioning because I bicycle everywhere, but the change

has been so sudden. Hills that used to really take it out of me are no

big deal now and that's been practically an overnight change. My right

knee quit hurting except for one day when I had a bean burrito and my

knee hurt that day. I don't know if the two are connected or not, but

it's a very interesting correlation to see that the only day I've had

joint pains has been the day I ate something cooked.

I'm very curious to see if I continue to feel so vibrant or if it

stays at this level so that I get used to it and don't notice the

vibrance any more. Or if it levels off and comes back down. This is a

new and exciting journey for me and I'm just eager to see where it

goes.

> I am 5 foot 2 inches tall and 100lbs. People sometimes tell me " You

> are so skinny, you need to put some weight on. " As if I was unaware

> of it or something. According to 'the charts' of Health Canada I am

> underweight. But I am not under fat. I am under muscled.

Using BMI figures (which, I know, are not meant for individual use --

they're intended for aggregate statistical purposes) you're right on

the edge. The dividing line between underweight and normal weight for

your height is 102 pounds. Regardless, it seems awfully rude of people

to say that to you. What is it about underweight (or the perception of

underweight) that makes people feel it's okay to be rude? I'm 185

pounds and 5'6 " -- right on the BMI dividing line between overweight

and obese -- and it is very rare that anyone tells me I'm overweight

or fat and when they do, there's no doubting they mean it as an insult

because it's usually shouted along with select invectives. People know

it's rude to tell me I'm overweight (not that I care. I know I'm

overweight. But I used to weigh over 300 pounds, so I'm just thrilled

to be still alive and releasing weight now.) but they don't seem to

register that it's rude to tell someone else they're underweight

(unless they're that person's doctor, of course.)

> I am not vegan, I am not a raw foodist. I am not ready to be 'well'

>

> When the time is right, I will predominently eat plants, when the

> time is right, I will eat more live raw foods.

That is so true about the time being right. Everything has to align

for a person to be ready. Those are big lifestyle changes you're

talking about and it's just not so helpful to try to force it before

" the chick is ready to hatch. " You will know when you are ready.

It's awesome that you're doing sprouts. That will put you several

steps ahead of the learning curve when you finally do feel ready to

make other changes. I love my sprouts and am eager to try more. I

have some wheatgrass growing and it's got little, tiny blades of green

but it's frustrating because I feel like it should be growing much

faster than it is. After super-quick sprouts like quinoa, I guess I

need to learn a little more kitchen garden patience for the

wheatgrass. Does anyone here do wheatgrass as sprouts? Like 2-3 days

of growing? Are they good that way? Are the wheat berries crunchy or

chewy or what when you eat them as sprouts?

I started something new today as well, some red lentils. They are so

tiny compared to my brown lentils! Every time I try growing something

new, there's an anxiousness as I wait to see if it really will grow.

LOL! I know I can sprout because I do it every day, but there's still

an amazement when I see the little shoots coming out from something I

haven't tried before. It's like I invented the wheel or made the sun

rise that morning or something. :-)

Sparrow

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I think you meant me? Thank you. I still have about 40-45 pounds to

go, but I hardly think about it anymore since I've released over 120

pounds already. It's like being a new person.

Sparrow

On 11/1/08, Barbara Reilley <creativeplane1@...> wrote:

>

> Good job on the weight loss, ! Have a healthy and happy leap year,

> Barbara

>

>

> >

> > Are you losing fat? Or are you losing muscle?

>

> Since I seem to have made it through the transition and have been

> above 90% raw for the last couple of weeks, I figured I'd chime in.

> But remember that I'm VERY new at this, so remember to listen with a

> critical mind to anything I say since nothing I'm doing has stood the

> test of long time yet.

>

> I seem to be losing weight at roughly the same speed as I was on a

> cooked diet, but my cooked diet was pretty clean: low-fat whole-foods

> vegan. I still have some pretty big muscles under the layers of fat (I

> put on a lot of muscle fairly easily. I think I'm a cross between

> endomorph and mesomorph), but it's only been a couple of weeks so it

> will take time to see what's going and what's staying.

>

> > How is your energy levels? How is your strength? How is your

> > endurance? How is your mental clarity? Is it consistent or sporatic?

>

> Oh, man. I mean, OH man! Energy levels are one of the things I've been

> raving to everyone who will listen. I have been waking up refreshed

> after six hours' sleep (I used to be a ten-to-twelve hour a day

> sleeper and had just assumed that was the cost of hitting middle age.)

> I have about twenty minutes of drowsy time in the late afternoon but I

> can either drink some cool water and breathe my way through it and it

> passes or I can lay down for a nap but I don't have to set a timer

> because an hour later I'm totally refreshed and itching to get up and

> do something.

>

> My strength really seems to have increased and I would normally chalk

> that up to conditioning because I bicycle everywhere, but the change

> has been so sudden. Hills that used to really take it out of me are no

> big deal now and that's been practically an overnight change. My right

> knee quit hurting except for one day when I had a bean burrito and my

> knee hurt that day. I don't know if the two are connected or not, but

> it's a very interesting correlation to see that the only day I've had

> joint pains has been the day I ate something cooked.

>

> I'm very curious to see if I continue to feel so vibrant or if it

> stays at this level so that I get used to it and don't notice the

> vibrance any more. Or if it levels off and comes back down. This is a

> new and exciting journey for me and I'm just eager to see where it

> goes.

>

> > I am 5 foot 2 inches tall and 100lbs. People sometimes tell me " You

> > are so skinny, you need to put some weight on. " As if I was unaware

> > of it or something. According to 'the charts' of Health Canada I am

> > underweight. But I am not under fat. I am under muscled.

>

> Using BMI figures (which, I know, are not meant for individual use --

> they're intended for aggregate statistical purposes) you're right on

> the edge. The dividing line between underweight and normal weight for

> your height is 102 pounds. Regardless, it seems awfully rude of people

> to say that to you. What is it about underweight (or the perception of

> underweight) that makes people feel it's okay to be rude? I'm 185

> pounds and 5'6 " -- right on the BMI dividing line between overweight

> and obese -- and it is very rare that anyone tells me I'm overweight

> or fat and when they do, there's no doubting they mean it as an insult

> because it's usually shouted along with select invectives. People know

> it's rude to tell me I'm overweight (not that I care. I know I'm

> overweight. But I used to weigh over 300 pounds, so I'm just thrilled

> to be still alive and releasing weight now.) but they don't seem to

> register that it's rude to tell someone else they're underweight

> (unless they're that person's doctor, of course.)

>

> > I am not vegan, I am not a raw foodist. I am not ready to be 'well'

> >

> > When the time is right, I will predominently eat plants, when the

> > time is right, I will eat more live raw foods.

>

> That is so true about the time being right. Everything has to align

> for a person to be ready. Those are big lifestyle changes you're

> talking about and it's just not so helpful to try to force it before

> " the chick is ready to hatch. " You will know when you are ready.

>

> It's awesome that you're doing sprouts. That will put you several

> steps ahead of the learning curve when you finally do feel ready to

> make other changes. I love my sprouts and am eager to try more. I

> have some wheatgrass growing and it's got little, tiny blades of green

> but it's frustrating because I feel like it should be growing much

> faster than it is. After super-quick sprouts like quinoa, I guess I

> need to learn a little more kitchen garden patience for the

> wheatgrass. Does anyone here do wheatgrass as sprouts? Like 2-3 days

> of growing? Are they good that way? Are the wheat berries crunchy or

> chewy or what when you eat them as sprouts?

>

> I started something new today as well, some red lentils. They are so

> tiny compared to my brown lentils! Every time I try growing something

> new, there's an anxiousness as I wait to see if it really will grow.

> LOL! I know I can sprout because I do it every day, but there's still

> an amazement when I see the little shoots coming out from something I

> haven't tried before. It's like I invented the wheel or made the sun

> rise that morning or something. :-)

>

> Sparrow

>

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I did.  Brava!

> >

> > Are you losing fat? Or are you losing muscle?

>

> Since I seem to have made it through the transition and have been

> above 90% raw for the last couple of weeks, I figured I'd chime in.

> But remember that I'm VERY new at this, so remember to listen with a

> critical mind to anything I say since nothing I'm doing has stood the

> test of long time yet.

>

> I seem to be losing weight at roughly the same speed as I was on a

> cooked diet, but my cooked diet was pretty clean: low-fat whole-foods

> vegan. I still have some pretty big muscles under the layers of fat (I

> put on a lot of muscle fairly easily. I think I'm a cross between

> endomorph and mesomorph), but it's only been a couple of weeks so it

> will take time to see what's going and what's staying.

>

> > How is your energy levels? How is your strength? How is your

> > endurance? How is your mental clarity? Is it consistent or sporatic?

>

> Oh, man. I mean, OH man! Energy levels are one of the things I've been

> raving to everyone who will listen. I have been waking up refreshed

> after six hours' sleep (I used to be a ten-to-twelve hour a day

> sleeper and had just assumed that was the cost of hitting middle age.)

> I have about twenty minutes of drowsy time in the late afternoon but I

> can either drink some cool water and breathe my way through it and it

> passes or I can lay down for a nap but I don't have to set a timer

> because an hour later I'm totally refreshed and itching to get up and

> do something.

>

> My strength really seems to have increased and I would normally chalk

> that up to conditioning because I bicycle everywhere, but the change

> has been so sudden. Hills that used to really take it out of me are no

> big deal now and that's been practically an overnight change. My right

> knee quit hurting except for one day when I had a bean burrito and my

> knee hurt that day. I don't know if the two are connected or not, but

> it's a very interesting correlation to see that the only day I've had

> joint pains has been the day I ate something cooked.

>

> I'm very curious to see if I continue to feel so vibrant or if it

> stays at this level so that I get used to it and don't notice the

> vibrance any more. Or if it levels off and comes back down. This is a

> new and exciting journey for me and I'm just eager to see where it

> goes.

>

> > I am 5 foot 2 inches tall and 100lbs. People sometimes tell me " You

> > are so skinny, you need to put some weight on. " As if I was unaware

> > of it or something. According to 'the charts' of Health Canada I am

> > underweight. But I am not under fat. I am under muscled.

>

> Using BMI figures (which, I know, are not meant for individual use --

> they're intended for aggregate statistical purposes) you're right on

> the edge. The dividing line between underweight and normal weight for

> your height is 102 pounds. Regardless, it seems awfully rude of people

> to say that to you. What is it about underweight (or the perception of

> underweight) that makes people feel it's okay to be rude? I'm 185

> pounds and 5'6 " -- right on the BMI dividing line between overweight

> and obese -- and it is very rare that anyone tells me I'm overweight

> or fat and when they do, there's no doubting they mean it as an insult

> because it's usually shouted along with select invectives. People know

> it's rude to tell me I'm overweight (not that I care. I know I'm

> overweight. But I used to weigh over 300 pounds, so I'm just thrilled

> to be still alive and releasing weight now.) but they don't seem to

> register that it's rude to tell someone else they're underweight

> (unless they're that person's doctor, of course.)

>

> > I am not vegan, I am not a raw foodist. I am not ready to be 'well'

> >

> > When the time is right, I will predominently eat plants, when the

> > time is right, I will eat more live raw foods.

>

> That is so true about the time being right. Everything has to align

> for a person to be ready. Those are big lifestyle changes you're

> talking about and it's just not so helpful to try to force it before

> " the chick is ready to hatch. " You will know when you are ready.

>

> It's awesome that you're doing sprouts. That will put you several

> steps ahead of the learning curve when you finally do feel ready to

> make other changes. I love my sprouts and am eager to try more. I

> have some wheatgrass growing and it's got little, tiny blades of green

> but it's frustrating because I feel like it should be growing much

> faster than it is. After super-quick sprouts like quinoa, I guess I

> need to learn a little more kitchen garden patience for the

> wheatgrass. Does anyone here do wheatgrass as sprouts? Like 2-3 days

> of growing? Are they good that way? Are the wheat berries crunchy or

> chewy or what when you eat them as sprouts?

>

> I started something new today as well, some red lentils. They are so

> tiny compared to my brown lentils! Every time I try growing something

> new, there's an anxiousness as I wait to see if it really will grow.

> LOL! I know I can sprout because I do it every day, but there's still

> an amazement when I see the little shoots coming out from something I

> haven't tried before. It's like I invented the wheel or made the sun

> rise that morning or something. :-)

>

> Sparrow

>

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