Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

[Guest guest]

 I used to sprout my own brown rice... now I buy it already sprouted and

dehydrated... I like it fine but when I srpouted my own brown rice and many

other grains and seed... I would sprout them in green tea... that kept the water

free from bacterias longer and I didnt need to change the water as fast... check

it out... try it.. best luck safe holiday

From: Diane and <sunflowr@...>

Subject: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 8:37 PM

I only change the water once a day also. One day we decided to camp out

overnight on the spur of the moment and did not come back till the next

night. The sprouts missed their water change for one day and a half and

they were just fine. A great advantage of an automatic sprouting

machine! The water was a bit foamy, but I just change the water and also

ran the water sprayer attached to the faucet over the trays really well,

to give them an extra rinse. Now I do that each time I change the water.

Thanks, EW for the suggestion!

Diane

[Guest guest]

Someone told me to eat edaname seeds (are these soybeans). I'm afraid of

eating soy. I read too many bad things about it. But my local place sells

organic soybeans and I am wondering if these can be sprouted. Are these he same

thing as edaname seeds?

Thanks if anyone knows the answer.

Melody

I used to sprout my own brown rice... now I buy it already sprouted and

dehydrated... I like it fine but when I srpouted my own brown rice and many

other grains and seed... I would sprout them in green tea... that kept the water

free from bacterias longer and I didnt need to change the water as fast... check

it out... try it.. best luck safe holiday

From: Diane and <sunflowr@...>

Subject: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 8:37 PM

I only change the water once a day also. One day we decided to camp out

overnight on the spur of the moment and did not come back till the next

night. The sprouts missed their water change for one day and a half and

they were just fine. A great advantage of an automatic sprouting

machine! The water was a bit foamy, but I just change the water and also

ran the water sprayer attached to the faucet over the trays really well,

to give them an extra rinse. Now I do that each time I change the water.

Thanks, EW for the suggestion!

Diane

[Guest guest]

Edamane is an green soybean boiled in salt water.Soybeans can be sprouted but

they tend to turn black and have a tendency to split into.They look nasty and

have a very strong taste and when they split it sounds like corn popping.

From: eliz7212@...

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:24:24 -0500

Subject: Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Someone told me to eat edaname seeds (are these soybeans). I'm

afraid of eating soy. I read too many bad things about it. But my local place

sells organic soybeans and I am wondering if these can be sprouted. Are these he

same thing as edaname seeds?

Thanks if anyone knows the answer.

Melody

I used to sprout my own brown rice... now I buy it already sprouted and

dehydrated... I like it fine but when I srpouted my own brown rice and many

other grains and seed... I would sprout them in green tea... that kept the water

free from bacterias longer and I didnt need to change the water as fast... check

it out... try it.. best luck safe holiday

From: Diane and <sunflowr@...>

Subject: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 8:37 PM

I only change the water once a day also. One day we decided to camp out

overnight on the spur of the moment and did not come back till the next

night. The sprouts missed their water change for one day and a half and

they were just fine. A great advantage of an automatic sprouting

machine! The water was a bit foamy, but I just change the water and also

ran the water sprayer attached to the faucet over the trays really well,

to give them an extra rinse. Now I do that each time I change the water.

Thanks, EW for the suggestion!

Diane

[Guest guest]

On 12/24/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> Someone told me to eat edaname seeds (are these soybeans).

> I'm afraid of eating soy. I read too many bad things about it. But

> my local place sells organic soybeans and I am wondering if

> these can be sprouted. Are these he same thing as edaname seeds?

Edamame is usually already cooked (at least that's how it is in my

grocery) so you couldn't sprout it. Organic soybeans would sprout, but

I read just the other day that you can't eat soy raw. I don't know if

that applies to the sprouts as well or just the bean, but you might

want to do some reading before you get the soybeans to make sure the

sprouts are good to eat.

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sparrow and EW:

I'll look into the sprouting of soy and see if it's in my best interest. I'm

just really trying to find out if soy is bad or you or good for you. the reviews

are mixed on the internet. Different people say different things. And especially

tofu. It has estrogen properties in it. I was wondering if edaname had he same

estrogen properties.

thsnks much. Melody

Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

On 12/24/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> Someone told me to eat edaname seeds (are these soybeans).

> I'm afraid of eating soy. I read too many bad things about it. But

> my local place sells organic soybeans and I am wondering if

> these can be sprouted. Are these he same thing as edaname seeds?

Edamame is usually already cooked (at least that's how it is in my

grocery) so you couldn't sprout it. Organic soybeans would sprout, but

I read just the other day that you can't eat soy raw. I don't know if

that applies to the sprouts as well or just the bean, but you might

want to do some reading before you get the soybeans to make sure the

sprouts are good to eat.

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

On 12/25/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> I'll look into the sprouting of soy and see if it's in my best interest.

> I'm just really trying to find out if soy is bad or you or good for you.

> the reviews are mixed on the internet. Different people say different

> things. And especially tofu. It has estrogen properties in it. I was

> wondering if edaname had he same estrogen properties.

All soy has phytoestrogens. So does wheat, oats, lentils, rice,

apples, carrots, beer, and tons of other foods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

They say tofu is better if it is fermented.... you could sprout it and then

ferment it

>

> I'll look into the sprouting of soy and see if it's in my best interest.

> I'm just really trying to find out if soy is bad or you or good for you.

> the reviews are mixed on the internet. Different people say different

> things. And especially tofu. It has estrogen properties in it. I was

> wondering if edaname had he same estrogen properties.

All soy has phytoestrogens. So does wheat, oats, lentils, rice,

apples, carrots, beer, and tons of other foods.

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Phytoestrogens

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

On 12/25/08, Kornblau <bacteriapimp@...> wrote:

>

> They say tofu is better if it is fermented

I've never heard of fermented tofu - that's a new one to me! Usually

when people talk about fermented soy, they talk about miso and tempeh

which are fermented foods.

> you could sprout it and then ferment it

Soy sprout kim chee. :-)

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Melody, I am much older than you, so from a lifetime of experience, I

can tell you that what every you hear, see or read, there is someone that

will say its wrong. There is alway someone with a different idea of how

things are. And sometimes you will find people that think that know

everything about anything. I just sit back and let them be ignorant. I do

my own testing and experimenting. I know what works for me and what

doesn't. I know the good and no so good of every medication the my Dr.

prescribes for me. I once told my Dr. that the dosage was wrong and he

agreed and change it. My brother-in-law once told me a stock he bought at

$55 dollars was going to $200 and I should jump in. I investigated and

didn't like what I saw and did not 'jump in' . Three months later the

stock dropped to $1.50 and hasn't been over $3 in 5 years.

So, the bottom line is research. There is almost nothing you can't learn

on the internet. Weight the info, test, experiment. You will be the

better for it. Then be a guide for others.

JOY to the World

ew

Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:20:48 -0700

On 12/25/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> I'll look into the sprouting of soy and see if it's in my best

interest.

> I'm just really trying to find out if soy is bad or you or good for

you.

> the reviews are mixed on the internet. Different people say

different

> things. And especially tofu. It has estrogen properties in it. I

was

> wondering if edaname had he same estrogen properties.

All soy has phytoestrogens. So does wheat, oats, lentils, rice,

apples, carrots, beer, and tons of other foods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens

Sparrow

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I was stationed in Korea near the end of the Korean War. One day a smell

came from a nearby village that was so bad that we GIs gagged. We went to

investigate and found out about Kim Chee. They bury cabbage leaves in a

liquid like vinegar with spices in crocks and leave it for a couple of

months. Then they did it up and have a big party. The smell that we

thought was awful was it Kim Chee being uncovered. I declined tha offer

of joining the party. I was 20. Didn't know any better. Today, I would

try almost anything. Once.

ew

Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:41:33 -0700

On 12/25/08, Kornblau <bacteriapimp@...> wrote:

>

> They say tofu is better if it is fermented

I've never heard of fermented tofu - that's a new one to me! Usually

when people talk about fermented soy, they talk about miso and tempeh

which are fermented foods.

> you could sprout it and then ferment it

Soy sprout kim chee. :-)

Sparrow

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On 12/25/08, Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> wrote:

>

> The smell that we

> thought was awful was it Kim Chee being uncovered. I declined tha offer

> of joining the party. I was 20. Didn't know any better. Today, I would

> try almost anything. Once.

I've only had Kim Chee once. Someone offered me a spoonful of theirs

and it was amazing! I hate saur kraut so I expected to hate Kim Chee,

too, since it's basically spicy saur kraut, but it was fantastic! The

only thing that's kept me from eating it again is how expensive a jar

of it is. But when I finally move and have a bigger kitchen, I will

learn to make my own Kim Chee and have it often.

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Sparrow, I applaud your adventurousness. " You're a better man than I,

Gunga Din! "

ew

Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:25:32 -0700

On 12/25/08, Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> wrote:

>

> The smell that we

> thought was awful was it Kim Chee being uncovered. I declined tha

offer

> of joining the party. I was 20. Didn't know any better. Today, I

would

> try almost anything. Once.

I've only had Kim Chee once. Someone offered me a spoonful of theirs

and it was amazing! I hate saur kraut so I expected to hate Kim Chee,

too, since it's basically spicy saur kraut, but it was fantastic! The

only thing that's kept me from eating it again is how expensive a jar

of it is. But when I finally move and have a bigger kitchen, I will

learn to make my own Kim Chee and have it often.

Sparrow

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On 12/25/08, Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> wrote:

>

> Sparrow, I applaud your adventurousness. " You're a better man than I,

> Gunga Din! "

Ah, Kipling.

Well, I did have the advantage of never having been around when

someone opened a freshly unearthed crock of the stuff, which must be a

pretty intense experience, so I don't have that " smell memory " to put

me off.

It's actually really tasty stuff (in my opinion, and I'm HUGELY picky

about food.) But expensive. Find someone who likes it and beg a bite

off them to see if you like it.

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

I completely agree with you. 20 years ago I was a 41 year old woman who weighed

over 300 lbs and used a cane. I had diabetes. I was on 9 pills a day.

4 years ago I entered a diabetic protocol out of Cornell Medical Center in NYC.

I started to take one injection of Lantus each morning. No more oral meds.

I am proud to say my blood sugar is under control and when the clinical trial

ends in April, there is a very good chance I will get to go off of insulin

alltogether.

I started with 46 units and I am down to 16. All that in 4 years. And I lost all

of my weight.

I watch what goes into my body. I am now 61 and in much better shape than when I

was 40. Yeah, I have arthritis but because I eat what I eat, I don't get it

inflamed.

I am still learning at the age of 61.

Thanks for all the good information. I shall keep doing my research.

Melody

Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:20:48 -0700

On 12/25/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> I'll look into the sprouting of soy and see if it's in my best

interest.

> I'm just really trying to find out if soy is bad or you or good for

you.

> the reviews are mixed on the internet. Different people say

different

> things. And especially tofu. It has estrogen properties in it. I

was

> wondering if edaname had he same estrogen properties.

All soy has phytoestrogens. So does wheat, oats, lentils, rice,

apples, carrots, beer, and tons of other foods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens

Sparrow

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EW:

My podiatrist (I saw him on Tuesday) he told me to try Alligator Meat. He loves

it. He has it whenever he travels to the south. I looked it up online.

Fascinating.

Anybody try this?

Melody

Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:41:33 -0700

On 12/25/08, Kornblau <bacteriapimp@...> wrote:

>

> They say tofu is better if it is fermented

I've never heard of fermented tofu - that's a new one to me! Usually

when people talk about fermented soy, they talk about miso and tempeh

which are fermented foods.

> you could sprout it and then ferment it

Soy sprout kim chee. :-)

Sparrow

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Here are some websites about different fermented tufu's... plus you can just

leave the tofu in soy souce to ferment

 

http://www.csupomona.edu/~jskoga/fermentedtofu/index.html

 

http://www.ellenskitchen.com/clearlight/soyfoods.html

 

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/403303

>

> They say tofu is better if it is fermented

I've never heard of fermented tofu - that's a new one to me! Usually

when people talk about fermented soy, they talk about miso and tempeh

which are fermented foods.

> you could sprout it and then ferment it

Soy sprout kim chee. :-)

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

The agricultural database on the use of soy as animal feed is the only reliable

long term scientific studies.The data is bad as far as the animals long term

health goes.but is exceptable to use do to slaughter comes before long term

health and well being.The most interesting factors being nitrogen imbalance and

the added stress on the renal glands.When raw soy and urea were used together in

the feed the nitrogen overload lead to renal failure and loss of profits.This

bean has the most problematic issues of any so called food in the history of

humanity.This bean is classified historically as a phytoestrgenic herb and its

recommended use is short term.This goes for hops which is put in beer for its

medicinal effect by an act of law.Hops was not traditionaly used in the elixer

craft of making beer,it was added to calm down the effects of public

consumption.To bean or not to bean tis the question.Peace and long life to all.

From: 99tomatoes@...

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:04:56 -0800

Subject: Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Melody, I am much older than you, so from a lifetime of experience,

I

can tell you that what every you hear, see or read, there is someone that

will say its wrong. There is alway someone with a different idea of how

things are. And sometimes you will find people that think that know

everything about anything. I just sit back and let them be ignorant. I do

my own testing and experimenting. I know what works for me and what

doesn't. I know the good and no so good of every medication the my Dr.

prescribes for me. I once told my Dr. that the dosage was wrong and he

agreed and change it. My brother-in-law once told me a stock he bought at

$55 dollars was going to $200 and I should jump in. I investigated and

didn't like what I saw and did not 'jump in' . Three months later the

stock dropped to $1.50 and hasn't been over $3 in 5 years.

So, the bottom line is research. There is almost nothing you can't learn

on the internet. Weight the info, test, experiment. You will be the

better for it. Then be a guide for others.

JOY to the World

ew

Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:20:48 -0700

On 12/25/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> I'll look into the sprouting of soy and see if it's in my best

interest.

> I'm just really trying to find out if soy is bad or you or good for

you.

> the reviews are mixed on the internet. Different people say

different

> things. And especially tofu. It has estrogen properties in it. I

was

> wondering if edaname had he same estrogen properties.

All soy has phytoestrogens. So does wheat, oats, lentils, rice,

apples, carrots, beer, and tons of other foods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens

Sparrow

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On 12/25/08, Kornblau <bacteriapimp@...> wrote:

>

> Here are some websites about different fermented tufu's... plus

> you can just leave the tofu in soy souce to ferment

Thanks! I love learning new things about food!

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

when you ferment tofu or soy beans it counter acts all the negative things that

they say about them... there is always something positive about fermenting

....just like sprouting... you can't go wrong

>

> Here are some websites about different fermented tufu's... plus

> you can just leave the tofu in soy souce to ferment

Thanks! I love learning new things about food!

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Well that really makes me not want to eat tofu more than once a week. I really

love it but I really don't think once a week for me and Alan is going to hurt.

I'm finding lots of ways to incorporate my sprouts into my food.

thanks much

Melody

Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:20:48 -0700

On 12/25/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> I'll look into the sprouting of soy and see if it's in my best

interest.

> I'm just really trying to find out if soy is bad or you or good for

you.

> the reviews are mixed on the internet. Different people say

different

> things. And especially tofu. It has estrogen properties in it. I

was

> wondering if edaname had he same estrogen properties.

All soy has phytoestrogens. So does wheat, oats, lentils, rice,

apples, carrots, beer, and tons of other foods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens

Sparrow

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What exactly does fermenting do to a block of tofu? For example, if I bought a

block of tofu and instead of putting it in a bowl of water, I would put it in a

bowl of soy sauce, THIS WOULD FERMENT IT? And why does fermenting counter-act

all the bad stuff in tofu.

Doesn't it still contain the estrogen properties (no matter if you put it in

soy sauce or not?).

Just curious. Thanks much

Melody

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sparrow:

I clicked on the link and read about tofu and phytoestrogens. I should have been

a nutritionist. All this is extremely confusing. I don't know if I should eat

soy, or I shouldn't eat soy. If I should give it to my 61 year old husband?

There are so many conflicting opinions. I will stick to my sprouts and continue

my strict blood sugar control regime. I've been getting good results and my docs

are happy with me.

Melody

Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

On 12/25/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> I'll look into the sprouting of soy and see if it's in my best interest.

> I'm just really trying to find out if soy is bad or you or good for you.

> the reviews are mixed on the internet. Different people say different

> things. And especially tofu. It has estrogen properties in it. I was

> wondering if edaname had he same estrogen properties.

All soy has phytoestrogens. So does wheat, oats, lentils, rice,

apples, carrots, beer, and tons of other foods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

On 12/25/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> Well that really makes me not want to eat tofu more than once a week.

That's more often than I ate it when I was eating cooked vegan food. I

was closer to tofu once a month. And when I was reading about the

longest-lived people in Japan, tofu once a week is more soy than they

were eating, too.

I still love a little steamed edamame now and again and I'm still

using miso and sauces (soy, Bragg, nama shoyu).

I always figured it wouldn't hurt to pile on the soy because it hasn't

hurt the Japanese, but when I found out how little soy they actually

eat on a daily basis when eating the traditional Japanese diet, I was

shocked. We Americans who eat soy eat TONS more than the Japanese. (I

haven't read about the Chinese, so I don't know how much soy is in

their diet.)

So we figure it must be safe because other cultures eat it, not

realizing that it's not always a staple of their diet like it can be

for some health food folks here in the States. So high amounts of tofu

in the human diet is only now being " tested. "

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

On 12/25/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks Sparrow:

>

> I clicked on the link and read about tofu and phytoestrogens.

> I should have been a nutritionist. All this is extremely confusing.

> I don't know if I should eat soy, or I shouldn't eat soy. If I should

> give it to my 61 year old husband?

You might try what I do: I keep a journal with what I eat and how I

feel. If I start noticing that I'm feeling ucky - say I'm having

headaches a few times a week, for example - I can look back in my

journal and see if there is a pattern between the body pains and my

food choices.

Whether you should or shouldn't eat soy (and how much you should eat)

is probably better decided by your intuition and a good food journal

than anything else as there hasn't really been enough scientific

study. And some of the information you will find represents a battle

between soy merchandisers and the dairy industry (feeling threatened

by soy milk and other soy " dairy " products) and it can be REALLY hard

to separate the good science from the various industry scare

marketings/health claims.

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Sparrow:

the scary thing is that they are putting soybean oil in EVERYTHING in the

supermarket. In peanut butter, in margarines, and god only knows what else they

are putting soybean oil in. Also cottonseed oil.

I'm glad I read all labels. It's the best thing I ever did.

And what do the Japanese eat?

Melody

Re: Re: Fresh Life Sprouter

On 12/25/08, Melody Lubart <eliz7212@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks Sparrow:

>

> I clicked on the link and read about tofu and phytoestrogens.

> I should have been a nutritionist. All this is extremely confusing.

> I don't know if I should eat soy, or I shouldn't eat soy. If I should

> give it to my 61 year old husband?

You might try what I do: I keep a journal with what I eat and how I

feel. If I start noticing that I'm feeling ucky - say I'm having

headaches a few times a week, for example - I can look back in my

journal and see if there is a pattern between the body pains and my

food choices.

Whether you should or shouldn't eat soy (and how much you should eat)

is probably better decided by your intuition and a good food journal

than anything else as there hasn't really been enough scientific

study. And some of the information you will find represents a battle

between soy merchandisers and the dairy industry (feeling threatened

by soy milk and other soy " dairy " products) and it can be REALLY hard

to separate the good science from the various industry scare

marketings/health claims.

Sparrow