Guest guest Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Are your dogs eating any cat food? Or poop?       ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15 http://www.orchardhouseheirlooms.net/ survival seeds http://www.reusablebarrels.com/- storage -food quality barrels Christian-homesteaders/ biblical survival -- German Shepherd UTI I know we have dog owners in the group and would like to ask for advice (I have tried searching the group archives and find nothing on canine UTI's)Anyway, new German Shepherd pup, born 9/11/10, we've had her since the week of Halloween. She came to us at approx. 6 weeks with a UTI, I had her to the vet within a few days due to noticing that and to have her checked for any other issues not seen.Pup has had 2 UTI's so far, and has Struvyte (sp) crystals in her urine. Per a draw done the end of last week and a lab test, bladder urine is clear, but collected, passed urine contains blood, white cells and grows the crystals once spun in the lab, so the issue is in the uretha. I have had the pup on daily doses of probiotics and a cranberry concoction for weeks now. She's eating a raw diet supplemented with a dry organic natural dogfood.Other than this, the puppy is healthy, very active, and has gone from less than 10 pounds when we got her to 40 pounds. Based on the size of her mom and dad, she's probably going to top out in the neighborhood of 100-112 pounds.Any suggestions on what to do about the UTI issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 No. I have read that cat food is poisonous to a dog's system, but what about the poop? Any dog I have ever seen ate poop, but we keep the yard picked up with this one. On 12/21/2010 2:59 PM, webriter wrote:  Are your dogs eating any cat food? Or poop?     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 UTI-in a dog, can be due to bladder stones, it is a very serious condition. Are you feeding the dog dry food? You could try changing the food, use a better food or give the dog fresh meat. Just no cheap dry food or organ meats. Any food that causes adverse reactions should be discontinued. Change slowly, tho', so you can pinpoint the problem.       ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15 http://www.orchardhouseheirlooms.net/ survival seeds http://www.reusablebarrels.com/- storage -food quality barrels Christian-homesteaders/ biblical survival -- Re: German Shepherd UTI No. I have read that cat food is poisonous to a dog's system, but what about the poop? Any dog I have ever seen ate poop, but we keep the yard picked up with this one.On 12/21/2010 2:59 PM, webriter wrote: Are your dogs eating any cat food? Or poop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Cat food is too 'hot' for dogs, they get hot spots and digestive troubles, from it, and eating poop is a form of pica. My dogs do not eat poop. My dh feeds them all wrong, but I can't do much about it, the little baggers are so terribly spoiled.       ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15 http://www.orchardhouseheirlooms.net/ survival seeds http://www.reusablebarrels.com/- storage -food quality barrels Christian-homesteaders/ biblical survival -- Re: German Shepherd UTI No. I have read that cat food is poisonous to a dog's system, but what about the poop? Any dog I have ever seen ate poop, but we keep the yard picked up with this one.On 12/21/2010 2:59 PM, webriter wrote: Are your dogs eating any cat food? Or poop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 This one is past me.. Gayla, you want to take this? Suzi List Owner health What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. From: Landes <L@...>health Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 2:15:00 PMSubject: German Shepherd UTII know we have dog owners in the group and would like to ask for advice (I have tried searching the group archives and find nothing on canine UTI's)Anyway, new German Shepherd pup, born 9/11/10, we've had her since the week of Halloween. She came to us at approx. 6 weeks with a UTI, I had her to the vet within a few days due to noticing that and to have her checked for any other issues not seen.Pup has had 2 UTI's so far, and has Struvyte (sp) crystals in her urine. Per a draw done the end of last week and a lab test, bladder urine is clear, but collected, passed urine contains blood, white cells and grows the crystals once spun in the lab, so the issue is in the uretha. I have had the pup on daily doses of probiotics and a cranberry concoction for weeks now. She's eating a raw diet supplemented with a dry organic natural dogfood.Other than this, the puppy is healthy, very active, and has gone from less than 10 pounds when we got her to 40 pounds. Based on the size of her mom and dad, she's probably going to top out in the neighborhood of 100-112 pounds.Any suggestions on what to do about the UTI issue?------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Try this site: http://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/articles/how-treat-uti-dogs-naturally.shtml is a good site.. I've used it from time to time. Suzi List Owner health What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 I've had a lot of good results from that company.       ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15 http://www.orchardhouseheirlooms.net/ survival seeds http://www.reusablebarrels.com/- storage -food quality barrels Christian-homesteaders/ biblical survival -- Re: German Shepherd UTI Try this site: http://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/articles/how-treat-uti-dogs-naturally.shtml is a good site.. I've used it from time to time. Suzi List Owner health What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Thanks, Suzi, this looks like good info and I am looking for natural ways, herbs, etc., to treat the pup. I've got her on a cranberry mix now and she has been for a few weeks, I'd like to add something else natural that I know to be tried and true, before the vet convinces my daughter to take the dog to a specialist, which is the way the conversation is going at this time. Maybe a dog owner will weigh in yet :-) Thanks again, On 12/21/2010 7:25 PM, Suzanne wrote: Try this site: http://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/articles/how-treat-uti-dogs-naturally.shtml is a good site.. I've used it from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010  Aha. I have a Miniature Pincher that has the most terrible itchys. I foster cats and more so over summer / Kitten season. He has big bald spots on him at the mo from itching. All the vet will say is flea allergy. Not sure that I believe that is the only thing causing this. He is the most disgusting scavenger. he is like a labrador and eats only slightly less and at 4.5 kg not a great thing. lol. He will eat cat food before and "after". this could well be his issue. Cat food is too 'hot' for dogs, they get hot spots and digestive troubles, from it, and eating poop is a form of pica. My dogs do not eat poop. My dh feeds them all wrong, but I can't do much about it, the little baggers are so terribly spoiled. to a dog's system, but what about the poop? Any dog I have ever seen ate poop, but we keep the yard picked up with this one.On 12/21/2010 2:59 PM, webriter wrote: Are your dogs eating any cat food? Or poop? No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3329 - Release Date: 12/21/10 20:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Well, I have GSDs, but I’ve never dealt with UTIs in them, so I didn’t have anything to say. I do, however, feed raw, I am a member of the NaturalRawDog list, and that group includes some extremely savvy folks. If you were to join that list and post your question there, I’d recommend that you specifically ask for Casey in the subject line. She’s incredibly knowledgeable. Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!" Thanks, Suzi, this looks like good info and I am looking for natural ways, herbs, etc., to treat the pup. I've got her on a cranberry mix now and she has been for a few weeks, I'd like to add something else natural that I know to be tried and true, before the vet convinces my daughter to take the dog to a specialist, which is the way the conversation is going at this time. Maybe a dog owner will weigh in yet :-)Thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Thanks, Ev - will do! On 12/22/2010 8:20 AM, evelyn bailey wrote:  Well, I have GSDs, but I’ve never dealt with UTIs in them, so I didn’t have anything to say. I do, however, feed raw, I am a member of the NaturalRawDog list, and that group includes some extremely savvy folks. If you were to join that list and post your question there, I’d recommend that you specifically ask for Casey in the subject line. She’s incredibly knowledgeable.  Ev "A hundred million miracles are happening every day!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Well, when you do, you’ll see I just posted myself, on behalf of my sister! Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!" From: Landes Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:24 AM health Subject: Re: German Shepherd UTI Thanks, Ev - will do!On 12/22/2010 8:20 AM, evelyn bailey wrote: Well, I have GSDs, but I’ve never dealt with UTIs in them, so I didn’t have anything to say. I do, however, feed raw, I am a member of the NaturalRawDog list, and that group includes some extremely savvy folks. If you were to join that list and post your question there, I’d recommend that you specifically ask for Casey in the subject line. She’s incredibly knowledgeable. Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 I joined earlier, Ev, when you suggested it. I am sitting her now reading info they send to the new members about diet, care, etc., but haven't had a chance to hit the message archives yet. Many thanks! On 12/22/2010 9:50 AM, evelyn bailey wrote:  Well, when you do, you’ll see I just posted myself, on behalf of my sister!  Ev "A hundred million miracles are happening every day!"  From: Landes Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:24 AM health Subject: Re: German Shepherd UTI  Thanks, Ev - will do! On 12/22/2010 8:20 AM, evelyn bailey wrote:  Well, I have GSDs, but I’ve never dealt with UTIs in them, so I didn’t have anything to say. I do, however, feed raw, I am a member of the NaturalRawDog list, and that group includes some extremely savvy folks. If you were to join that list and post your question there, I’d recommend that you specifically ask for Casey in the subject line. She’s incredibly knowledgeable.  Ev "A hundred million miracles are happening every day!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Dogs are designed to eat raw meat- lol mostly rotten..... Mine will not eat raw, but started early it's good to feed them at least 30% per day.       ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15 http://www.orchardhouseheirlooms.net/ survival seeds http://www.reusablebarrels.com/- storage -food quality barrels Christian-homesteaders/ biblical survival -- Re: German Shepherd UTI Well, I have GSDs, but I’ve never dealt with UTIs in them, so I didn’t have anything to say. I do, however, feed raw, I am a member of the NaturalRawDog list, and that group includes some extremely savvy folks. If you were to join that list and post your question there, I’d recommend that you specifically ask for Casey in the subject line. She’s incredibly knowledgeable. Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!" Thanks, Suzi, this looks like good info and I am looking for natural ways, herbs, etc., to treat the pup. I've got her on a cranberry mix now and she has been for a few weeks, I'd like to add something else natural that I know to be tried and true, before the vet convinces my daughter to take the dog to a specialist, which is the way the conversation is going at this time. Maybe a dog owner will weigh in yet :-)Thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Also....Dog food has too much ash for cats, it will give them UTIs, whole, raw foods are really best for both.       ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15 http://www.orchardhouseheirlooms.net/ survival seeds http://www.reusablebarrels.com/- storage -food quality barrels Christian-homesteaders/ biblical survival -- Re: German Shepherd UTI  Aha. I have a Miniature Pincher that has the most terrible itchys. I foster cats and more so over summer / Kitten season. He has big bald spots on him at the mo from itching. All the vet will say is flea allergy. Not sure that I believe that is the only thing causing this. He is the most disgusting scavenger. he is like a labrador and eats only slightly less and at 4.5 kg not a great thing. lol. He will eat cat food before and "after". this could well be his issue. Cat food is too 'hot' for dogs, they get hot spots and digestive troubles, from it, and eating poop is a form of pica. My dogs do not eat poop. My dh feeds them all wrong, but I can't do much about it, the little baggers are so terribly spoiled. to a dog's system, but what about the poop? Any dog I have ever seen ate poop, but we keep the yard picked up with this one.On 12/21/2010 2:59 PM, webriter wrote: Are your dogs eating any cat food? Or poop? No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3329 - Release Date: 12/21/10 20:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Okay, good deal. I know if you don’t find good info in the archives, there are folks who’ll have some experience with the problem. Sorry I can’t be more help myself, but at least I know the right list to point you to!! (...and somewhere, an English teacher’s head just exploded. so sorry...) Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!" I joined earlier, Ev, when you suggested it. I am sitting her now reading info they send to the new members about diet, care, etc., but haven't had a chance to hit the message archives yet.Many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010  I wonder why some dogs eat it. Mine never did. Rena Re: German Shepherd UTI No. I have read that cat food is poisonous to a dog's system, but what about the poop? Any dog I have ever seen ate poop, but we keep the yard picked up with this one.On 12/21/2010 2:59 PM, webriter wrote: Are your dogs eating any cat food? Or poop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010  My Corgi only ate cat poo and then it was only when he was off leash on a portion of our walk. We called it "kitty roca". Luckily we didn't have a cat of our own! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 My own dogs don’t seem to care much about my cats’ poop, but then, they are also raw-fed. However, they know all the places along our morning walk to seek and find everyone else’s cats’ poo, and they hunt it out with a vengeance. I stop them when possible, but if I get involved in a talk with my husband while we’re walking, and quit paying attention... Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!" My Corgi only ate cat poo and then it was only when he was off leash on a portion of our walk. We called it "kitty roca". Luckily we didn't have a cat of our own! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 My pair of dogs from years ago ate them like tootsie rolls, ugh. I had a cat too then.       ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15 http://www.orchardhouseheirlooms.net/ survival seeds http://www.reusablebarrels.com/- storage -food quality barrels Christian-homesteaders/ biblical survival -- Re: German Shepherd UTI My own dogs don’t seem to care much about my cats’ poop, but then, they are also raw-fed. However, they know all the places along our morning walk to seek and find everyone else’s cats’ poo, and they hunt it out with a vengeance. I stop them when possible, but if I get involved in a talk with my husband while we’re walking, and quit paying attention... Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!" My Corgi only ate cat poo and then it was only when he was off leash on a portion of our walk. We called it "kitty roca". Luckily we didn't have a cat of our own! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Seems disgusting doesn't it?       ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15 http://www.orchardhouseheirlooms.net/ survival seeds http://www.reusablebarrels.com/- storage -food quality barrels Christian-homesteaders/ biblical survival -- Re: German Shepherd UTI  My Corgi only ate cat poo and then it was only when he was off leash on a portion of our walk. We called it "kitty roca". Luckily we didn't have a cat of our own! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010  EXACTLY !! Ziggy was the same way. The cats that passed through our yard and left something, he ignored but be on the walk........ Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Such as ME!<VBG> Sharyn From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of evelyn baileyI do, however, feed raw, I am a member of the NaturalRawDog list, and that group includes some extremely savvy folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Yus! Who brought me from there to here! Say, I have been an extremely good girl this year (as always) – do you think Santa is even now arranging for me to adopt/raise/KEEP one of the upcoming pups??? (Plus one for my friend who had Gisa’s daddy)..... awesome.... Ev"A hundred million miracles are happening every day!" Such as ME!<VBG> Sharyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 But of course!<G> Sharyn & Cedar the Golden nudgePrincess Friday the wacky catSt. Cassie (at the Bridge, 1988-2000) From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of evelyn baileySay, I have been an extremely good girl this year (as always) – do you think Santa is even now arranging for me to adopt/raise/KEEP one of the upcoming pups??? (Plus one for my friend who had Gisa’s daddy)..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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