Re: MAMMOGRAM

[Guest guest]

I refused to get the mammogram they wanted me to get after explant. I did agree to go for a sonogram and they found lumps. They want me to get go ahead with the mammogram in 6 more months though. I decided I didn't want them to do a mammogram on me after explant, I was scared it would break down what ever was growing back in my breast. I would do the MRI since that does not apply to much pressure on your breast, like the mammogram. OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good Luck and God Bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donna

P.S. I had a MRI done on my breast about 4 days prior to explant. It came back as SPECKS???????????

Has anyone ever had that happen to them with a Breast MRI? Dr. Kolb removed my implants and they were leaking and had nasty stuff floating in them. It showed Specks? Thank GOD I didn't listen to that test.

[Guest guest]

Uhmm all this talk on mammograms has got we slightly worried.

I have been asked to go to a genetics clinic due to the breast cancer risk in my family, my mum first had breast cancer at my age 45. She then went on to get breast cancer in the other breast, ovary cancer, kidney and bladder cancer, my poor mum died at 64, interestingly she could not have chemo as she was allergic to it along with antibiotics. I have been asked to have yearly mammograms and have agreed, so far I have had two normal ones but I wonder should I carry on after what has been written.

The cancer in my family is pretty bad, two of my mums brothers have had leukaemia, one died one still alive, two children of my uncles have also had leukaemia one died (sophie) aged nine the other is still alive. My aunt my mums sister had stomach cancer, my granddad throat cancer, and although the genetic clinic have said the cancers are not something that runs in families they still want to keep a close eye on me and my sister because of my mum.

Any thoughts would be welcome on what you would do about the mammograms if you were me.

Love Sue

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Kenda,

I respect your opinion, I guess its probably the best way to go. I very much doubt they will test me for the gene, over here its all about money in the NHS or lack of it.

Love Sue

[Guest guest]

I'm with you Donna, I refuse mammograms.

Patty

Re: Mammogram

I refused to get the mammogram they wanted me to get after explant. I did agree to go for a sonogram and they found lumps. They want me to get go ahead with the mammogram in 6 more months though. I decided I didn't want them to do a mammogram on me after explant, I was scared it would break down what ever was growing back in my breast. I would do the MRI since that does not apply to much pressure on your breast, like the mammogram. OUCH!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Good Luck and God Bless!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Donna

P.S. I had a MRI done on my breast about 4 days prior to explant. It came back as SPECKS?????? ?????

Has anyone ever had that happen to them with a Breast MRI? Dr. Kolb removed my implants and they were leaking and had nasty stuff floating in them. It showed Specks? Thank GOD I didn't listen to that test.

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[Guest guest]

For those who might question mammograms and ask, "What alternatives do we have?", here is the answer to that question:

1. Digital Infrared Imaging (DII), or thermography. It uses infrared cameras to detect patterns of temperature change in tissue. And it may allow you to catch cancer cells at work before a tumor even forms.

http://www.pacificchiro.com/breast_thermography/infrared_imaging_facts.htm

http://www.hsibaltimore.com/ealerts/ea200201/ea20020109.html

2. MRI

http://imaginis.com/breasthealth/mri.asp

3. BCDS

Breast Cancer Detection System (BCDS); a method that's completely non-invasive and radiation-free. And best of all: no squashing. BCDS technology is based on the discovery that electricity passes through cancerous tissue differently than it passes through normal tissue. A BCDS device consists of several strips containing electronic sensors that are laid over the breast in a spoke-like pattern. Very low electrical currents are transmitted into the breast without causing any pain to the patient. Diagnosis is made with computer analysis.

A South Carolina company called Z-tech is now conducting the final stage of clinical trials with an 18-month test of BCDS at 16 medical centers in the U.S., Canada and Europe.

If you'd like to find out if one of the BCDS test sites is located in your area, just go to the Z-Tech web site at z-techinc.com and select "Clinical Trials."

http://www.hsibaltimore.com/ealerts/ea200506/ea20050607.html

http://www.z-techinc.com/clinicaltrials.html

4. Blood testshttp://www.drdonnica.com/today/00007593.htm

Re: Mammogram

I refused to get the mammogram they wanted me to get after explant. I did agree to go for a sonogram and they found lumps. They want me to get go ahead with the mammogram in 6 more months though. I decided I didn't want them to do a mammogram on me after explant, I was scared it would break down what ever was growing back in my breast. I would do the MRI since that does not apply to much pressure on your breast, like the mammogram. OUCH!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Good Luck and God Bless!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Donna

P.S. I had a MRI done on my breast about 4 days prior to explant. It came back as SPECKS?????? ?????

Has anyone ever had that happen to them with a Breast MRI? Dr. Kolb removed my implants and they were leaking and had nasty stuff floating in them. It showed Specks? Thank GOD I didn't listen to that test.

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[Guest guest]

Under Blood tests, I want to add this link:

http://www.hsibaltimore.com/ealerts/ea200201/ea20020110.html

It's called the Anti-malignan Antibody in Serum test (AMAS). Malignin is a peptide found in people with a wide range of cancers. If the anti-malignan antibody in detected in the blood, it means that the body detected the presence of this peptide, and launched an immune response against it. Clinical studies have shown that the AMAS test is up to 95 percent accurate on the first reading, and up to 99 percent accurate after two readings.

In one study at Beth Israel Hospital in New York, the AMAS test demonstrated amazing accuracy. Within the study group of 125 people, the test was positive for 21 people who were later confirmed to have cancer, while it was negative for 97 people who showed no signs of cancer. The remaining seven people produced positive readings on the AMAS test but showed no signs of cancer; yet the study notes that all were symptomatic, had a family history of cancer, or both - indicating that the AMAS test may have detected a problem that conventional screening methods could not find.

Not just for breast cancer - AMAS can detect nearly any type of cancer

Note that the AMAS test is not specific to breast cancer; in fact, it can be used to detect all types of cancer. A positive reading indicates that there are cancerous cells in your body, but it cannot specify the type or the location. But as with the infrared imaging procedure I wrote about yesterday, it offers a good alternative for routine screening. With such high accuracy rates, a negative AMAS reading means that a mammogram or other screening procedure is not necessary. And a positive reading would be followed by additional tests anyway - so its lack of specificity doesn't pose any real obstacles.

AMA was first discovered in the mid-1980s, and the AMAS test has been available for over a decade - but still, most doctors are unaware of it. If you are interested in taking the AMAS test, talk to you doctor. Ask him to check out the information on www.AmasCancerTest.com, and to call 1-800-922-8378 to request a packet of scientific peer-reviewed literature demonstrating AMAS' benefits.

We all know that there is no perfect screening technology. Hopefully, one day there will be one definite test for cancer (or better yet, a definitive way to prevent it from developing at all.) But both AMAS and thermography come much closer to fulfilling the early detection promise - and when used in conjunction with more mainstream options, can provide a much more accurate assessment of your true risk.

Re: Mammogram

I refused to get the mammogram they wanted me to get after explant. I did agree to go for a sonogram and they found lumps. They want me to get go ahead with the mammogram in 6 more months though. I decided I didn't want them to do a mammogram on me after explant, I was scared it would break down what ever was growing back in my breast. I would do the MRI since that does not apply to much pressure on your breast, like the mammogram. OUCH!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Good Luck and God Bless!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Donna

P.S. I had a MRI done on my breast about 4 days prior to explant. It came back as SPECKS?????? ?????

Has anyone ever had that happen to them with a Breast MRI? Dr. Kolb removed my implants and they were leaking and had nasty stuff floating in them. It showed Specks? Thank GOD I didn't listen to that test.

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[Guest guest]

Sue, with your family's history of cancer, I think the benefit of mammogram

or other screening far outweighs any risk. Also, even if genetically you

test positive for the breast cancer gene, please know that it does not

necessarily mean that you will ever develop cancer.

Kenda

12/30/06 11:54 AM

> Uhmm all this talk on mammograms has got we slightly worried.

> I have been asked to go to a genetics clinic due to the breast cancer risk

> in my family, my mum first had breast cancer at my age 45. She then went on to

> get breast cancer in the other breast, ovary cancer, kidney and bladder

> cancer, my poor mum died at 64, interestingly she could not have chemo as she

> was

> allergic to it along with antibiotics. I have been asked to have yearly

> mammograms and have agreed, so far I have had two normal ones but I wonder

> should

> I carry on after what has been written.

> The cancer in my family is pretty bad, two of my mums brothers have had

> leukaemia, one died one still alive, two children of my uncles have also had

> leukaemia one died (sophie) aged nine the other is still alive. My aunt my

> mums

> sister had stomach cancer, my granddad throat cancer, and although the genetic

> clinic have said the cancers are not something that runs in families they

> still want to keep a close eye on me and my sister because of my mum.

> Any thoughts would be welcome on what you would do about the mammograms if

> you were me.

>

> Love Sue

>

> .

[Guest guest]

Sue,

If you have looked at the links I sent there are several options that I think would be particularly beneficial, in my opinion. I don't want to confuse you, but I want to encourage you to just look at all of the available information in depth.

I believe that digital infrarerd imaging, or thermography would be very valuable. While the links state that it is to be used as a complementary diagnosis tool to mammography, this is going to be my first choice. As stated on the links I sent, A positive infrared image represents the highest known risk factor for the future development of breast cancer, 10 times more significant than any family history of the disease.

It also stated

Infrared imaging (thermography) is the earliest method of breast cancer detection known. This is due to its ability to monitor the physiology (function), and thus the health, of the breast over time.

Infrared imaging can detect the pre-cancerous state of the breast up to 10 years before a cancerous tumor is found by any other method.

As the earliest known warning system, Digital Infrared Imaging gives a woman the chance to carefully monitor possible changes in the pre-cancerous process. In many cases, DII has the ability to offer this warning up to 8-10 years before a tumor can be detected by any other method.

Check out the DII images on this link:

http://www.pacificchiro.com/breast_thermography/performing_infrared_images.htm

You can see how this works, and these images help solidify the significant value of this tool.

Unfortunately, I did not see an imaging center listed for England, on the link:

http://www.pacificchiro.com/breast_thermography/breast_thermography_faq.htm

but for those interested, it seems very reasonable in cost, (around $175.00)

I don't want to say "Don't get a mammogram", because obviously, they are an important diagnostic tool (and my opinion doesn't matter anyway. Everyone has to make up their own mind on it.) But there are three myths surrounding mammograms, one of them being that mammograms catch cancer at an early stage. In fact, if a tumor is large enough to be detected by a mammogram it's most likely already in an advanced state.

http://www.hsibaltimore.com/ealerts/ea200506/ea20050607.html

The other myths are:

Mammograms are safe. In fact, they're not. Compression of the breast may prompt cancer to spread. And then there's the radiation: A mammogram delivers about 1,000 times more radiation than a chest x-ray and carries a risk of cardiovascular damage.

Mammograms save lives. In fact, studies have shown that women who have mammograms suffer about the same rate of death due to breast cancer as women who do not have mammograms.

The blood test that I sent links for would also be another option, that I think is valuable not only for breast cancer, but any kind of cancer. Again, if you missed those links, here it is:

http://www.amascancertest.com/

This is also a test of very reasonable cost.

I am going to use the blood test in conjunction with the DII before I consider a mammogram. I consider those to be the two safest options for me. Hope that helps.

Patty

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Re: Mammogram

Uhmm all this talk on mammograms has got we slightly worried.

I have been asked to go to a genetics clinic due to the breast cancer risk in my family, my mum first had breast cancer at my age 45. She then went on to get breast cancer in the other breast, ovary cancer, kidney and bladder cancer, my poor mum died at 64, interestingly she could not have chemo as she was allergic to it along with antibiotics. I have been asked to have yearly mammograms and have agreed, so far I have had two normal ones but I wonder should I carry on after what has been written.

The cancer in my family is pretty bad, two of my mums brothers have had leukaemia, one died one still alive, two children of my uncles have also had leukaemia one died (sophie) aged nine the other is still alive. My aunt my mums sister had stomach cancer, my granddad throat cancer, and although the genetic clinic have said the cancers are not something that runs in families they still want to keep a close eye on me and my sister because of my mum.

Any thoughts would be welcome on what you would do about the mammograms if you were me.

Love Sue

..

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[Guest guest]

Sue,

Have you had genetic testing done?

(It's a blood test)?

Did you check out the links on the blood testing?

Patty

Re: Mammogram

Uhmm all this talk on mammograms has got we slightly worried.

I have been asked to go to a genetics clinic due to the breast cancer risk in my family, my mum first had breast cancer at my age 45. She then went on to get breast cancer in the other breast, ovary cancer, kidney and bladder cancer, my poor mum died at 64, interestingly she could not have chemo as she was allergic to it along with antibiotics. I have been asked to have yearly mammograms and have agreed, so far I have had two normal ones but I wonder should I carry on after what has been written.

The cancer in my family is pretty bad, two of my mums brothers have had leukaemia, one died one still alive, two children of my uncles have also had leukaemia one died (sophie) aged nine the other is still alive. My aunt my mums sister had stomach cancer, my granddad throat cancer, and although the genetic clinic have said the cancers are not something that runs in families they still want to keep a close eye on me and my sister because of my mum.

Any thoughts would be welcome on what you would do about the mammograms if you were me.

Love Sue

..

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[Guest guest]

Rogene,

I will get my mammogram's as soon as my breast heal from explant. I didn't want you to think I won't do one ever again. I heard it takes a year to heal after explant, so I didn't want them to break down what little breast I do have growing. LOL I will get one after May 24, 2007. I think the SPECKS they found in me was mold or maybe were my implant was leaking. They didn't want to do nothing about the specks they found, so I guess it was not a scare to them. I had my implants out 4 days later and they were leaking and had stuff floating in them. I think this is what the MRI detected. What is scary is there is no test available for "safe" saline implants to detect leaking, etc. If so I would have showed up on my MRI. They should not sell these things if we can't detect leaking and stuff floating in them with a MRI. Thanks for writing back. God Bless!!!!

Donna

[Guest guest]

Yes,

I had a routine mammogram 1 year after explant and found the ps did

not remove the residual capsule on the left side. I had to go back for

another surgery to remove free floating silicone and blue nodules.

Terri P

>

> After an explant - has anyone had a mammogram and found there to be

> something detected? I'm certain that it is bits of silicone that

had leaked but they

> want me to do a follow up - MRI to keep on top of it.

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

IMHO, you really need to stay on top of it with mammograms - unless you can find something safer. My cancer was an early stage cancer - found with a mammogram. Prognosis is excellent when breast cancer is caught early.

Rogene

Re: Mammogram

Uhmm all this talk on mammograms has got we slightly worried.

I have been asked to go to a genetics clinic due to the breast cancer risk in my family, my mum first had breast cancer at my age 45. She then went on to get breast cancer in the other breast, ovary cancer, kidney and bladder cancer, my poor mum died at 64, interestingly she could not have chemo as she was allergic to it along with antibiotics. I have been asked to have yearly mammograms and have agreed, so far I have had two normal ones but I wonder should I carry on after what has been written.

The cancer in my family is pretty bad, two of my mums brothers have had leukaemia, one died one still alive, two children of my uncles have also had leukaemia one died (sophie) aged nine the other is still alive. My aunt my mums sister had stomach cancer, my granddad throat cancer, and although the genetic clinic have said the cancers are not something that runs in families they still want to keep a close eye on me and my sister because of my mum.

Any thoughts would be welcome on what you would do about the mammograms if you were me.

Love Sue

..

[Guest guest]

Many breast cancers have tiny opaque specks at their core . . . mine did.

I'm so thankful that I've had regular mammograms! . . . I had breast cancer last January. I had a simple lumpectomy, followed by Mammosite radiation therapy for five days. . . No pain, no fatigue - hardly any scaring . . . amazing. This broken arm is much worse!

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I agree, the benefits of mammography outweigh the risks, especially for you.

Lynda

At 11:41 AM 12/30/2006, you wrote:

>Sue, with your family's history of cancer, I think the benefit of mammogram

>or other screening far outweighs any risk. Also, even if genetically you

>test positive for the breast cancer gene, please know that it does not

>necessarily mean that you will ever develop cancer.

>

>Kenda

>

>12/30/06 11:54 AM

>

> > Uhmm all this talk on mammograms has got we slightly worried.

> > I have been asked to go to a genetics clinic due to the breast cancer risk

> > in my family, my mum first had breast cancer at my age 45. She

> then went on to

> > get breast cancer in the other breast, ovary cancer, kidney and bladder

> > cancer, my poor mum died at 64, interestingly she could not have

> chemo as she

> > was

> > allergic to it along with antibiotics. I have been asked to have yearly

> > mammograms and have agreed, so far I have had two normal ones but I wonder

> > should

> > I carry on after what has been written.

> > The cancer in my family is pretty bad, two of my mums brothers have had

> > leukaemia, one died one still alive, two children of my uncles

> have also had

> > leukaemia one died (sophie) aged nine the other is still alive. My aunt my

> > mums

> > sister had stomach cancer, my granddad throat cancer, and

> although the genetic

> > clinic have said the cancers are not something that runs in families they

> > still want to keep a close eye on me and my sister because of my mum.

> > Any thoughts would be welcome on what you would do about the mammograms if

> > you were me.

> >

> > Love Sue

> >

> > .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dearest Sandy:

This make me so angry, because the plastic surgeons know that you must be cleaned out. We had a lady here who was told that she would bleed to death if the ps removed her capsules. She told him to remove them and he did, but she had to be strong. Many of us are not strong and we need someone else to help us. Some doctors are just too lazy to remove the capsules, but there are many who will clean you out properly.

Honey, it breaks my heart to see you so upset, we are all here for you.

Sending love always......Lea

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Mammogram

Because it is Saturday there was no doctor

in ex-ray department to read my ex-rays

Where will this lead me as my pysician

The intake lady and the tech's do not understand why my

PS chooses to let me suffer as I can hardly function/agony

let me suffer

My plastic surgeon insists he could mame me for life because

of the length of time gone by that the capsules were left in me

My plastic surgeon is afraid to remove my scar capsule

At this point I would not want him to do any type of surgery on me

I want to come out of this alive and get my health back

T

There are other plastic surgeons who have experience doing

en block /drains for woman even years later down the road

They all felt I had a case right there because

I am suffering and he has not helped me thus far

It sounds like my plastic surgeon chooses

to toss me to the curb like a bag of trash

I gave a copy to the ex-ray department on

Residual Capsule and Intercapsular Debris As Long Term Risk Factors

I have to stay hopeful,

Sandy~

[Guest guest]

Sandy: Did your PS tell you to get a mammogram? I might be wrong but I don't think they show problems with saline implants. My PS told me to go get a mammogram before he'd do my explant surgery and it showed nothing. I wasted a couple of months getting tests done and waiting to see specialists, trying to get "proof." I wish I'd gotten them taken out sooner, because during that time, my symptoms got worse and worse, plus I was developing new ones almost daily. I had to go to my explanting surgeon, who didn't believe my implants were making me sick. He was the only one who could get me in without having to wait months--by that time I was deathly ill and desperate to get them out. Kate Sandy Verticelli <dusty.com@...> wrote: Because it is Saturday there was no doctor in ex-ray department to read my ex-rays Where will this lead me as my pysician The intake lady and the tech's do not understand

why my PS chooses to let me suffer as I can hardly function/agony let me suffer My plastic surgeon insists he could mame me for life because of the length of time gone by that the capsules were left in me My plastic surgeon is afraid to remove my scar

capsule At this point I would not want him to do any type of surgery on me I want to come out of this alive and get my health back T There are other plastic surgeons who have experience

doing en block /drains for woman even years later down the road They all felt I had a case right there because I am suffering and he has not helped me thus

far It sounds like my plastic surgeon chooses to toss me to the curb like a bag of trash I gave a copy to the ex-ray department on Residual Capsule and Intercapsular Debris As Long Term Risk Factors I have to stay hopeful, Sandy~ Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited.

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Kate,

Do you think getting the mammogram with the implants inside your breasts actually contributed to the worsening of your symptoms?

Mammograms are just so hard on the breasts!

I got sick right after my implanting surgeon advised me to "roll around on the floor" (chest down) to help keep my implants soft. In less than one month, I was very sick.

Patty

Re: Mammogram

Sandy:

Did your PS tell you to get a mammogram? I might be wrong but I don't think they show problems with saline implants. My PS told me to go get a mammogram before he'd do my explant surgery and it showed nothing.

I wasted a couple of months getting tests done and waiting to see specialists, trying to get "proof." I wish I'd gotten them taken out sooner, because during that time, my symptoms got worse and worse, plus I was developing new ones almost daily. I had to go to my explanting surgeon, who didn't believe my implants were making me sick. He was the only one who could get me in without having to wait months--by that time I was deathly ill and desperate to get them out.

Kate

Sandy Verticelli <dusty.comcomcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Because it is Saturday there was no doctor

in ex-ray department to read my ex-rays

Where will this lead me as my pysician

The intake lady and the tech's do not understand why my

PS chooses to let me suffer as I can hardly function/agony

let me suffer

My plastic surgeon insists he could mame me for life because

of the length of time gone by that the capsules were left in me

My plastic surgeon is afraid to remove my scar capsule

At this point I would not want him to do any type of surgery on me

I want to come out of this alive and get my health back

T

There are other plastic surgeons who have experience doing

en block /drains for woman even years later down the road

They all felt I had a case right there because

I am suffering and he has not helped me thus far

It sounds like my plastic surgeon chooses

to toss me to the curb like a bag of trash

I gave a copy to the ex-ray department on

Residual Capsule and Intercapsular Debris As Long Term Risk Factors

I have to stay hopeful,

Sandy~

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Patty: I didn't want to say that was the cause but it's possible; it would make sense since squeezing the implants flat like that could cause more of the junk in them to leak out. I had the mammogram done within a month of getting explanted and was already pretty sick, so it's hard to say. I think I've seen the moderators on this group recommend not getting mammograms. KateTricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Kate, Do you think getting the mammogram with the implants inside your breasts actually contributed to the worsening of your symptoms? Mammograms are just so hard on the breasts! I got sick right after my implanting surgeon advised me to "roll around on the floor" (chest down) to help keep my implants soft. In less than one month, I was very sick. Patty Re: Mammogram Sandy: Did your PS tell you to get a mammogram? I might be wrong but I don't think they show problems with saline implants. My PS told me to go get a mammogram before he'd do my explant surgery and it showed nothing. I wasted a couple of months getting tests done and waiting to see specialists, trying to get "proof." I wish I'd gotten them taken out sooner, because during that time, my symptoms got worse and worse, plus I was developing new ones almost daily. I had to go to my explanting surgeon, who

didn't believe my implants were making me sick. He was the only one who could get me in without having to wait months--by that time I was deathly ill and desperate to get them out. Kate Sandy Verticelli <dusty.comcomcast (DOT) net> wrote: Because it is Saturday there was no doctor in ex-ray department to read my ex-rays Where will this lead me as my pysician The intake lady and the tech's do not understand why my PS chooses to let me suffer as I can hardly function/agony let me suffer My plastic surgeon insists he could mame me for life because of the length of time gone by that the capsules were left in me My plastic surgeon

is afraid to remove my scar capsule At this point I would not want him to do any type of surgery on me I want to come out of this alive and get my health back T There are other plastic surgeons who

have experience doing en block /drains for woman even years later down the road They all felt I had a case right there because I am suffering and he has not helped me

thus far It sounds like my plastic surgeon chooses to toss me to the curb like a bag of trash I gave a copy to the ex-ray department on Residual Capsule and Intercapsular Debris As Long Term Risk Factors I have to stay hopeful, Sandy~ Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Never Miss an EmailStay connected with on your mobile. Get started! Don't be flakey. Get for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.

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[Guest guest]

Sometimes I think that a doctor is just trying to delay things by orderning tests - in the expectation that you will change your mind or give up.

Re: Mammogram

Sandy:

Did your PS tell you to get a mammogram? I might be wrong but I don't think they show problems with saline implants. My PS told me to go get a mammogram before he'd do my explant surgery and it showed nothing.

I wasted a couple of months getting tests done and waiting to see specialists, trying to get "proof." I wish I'd gotten them taken out sooner, because during that time, my symptoms got worse and worse, plus I was developing new ones almost daily. I had to go to my explanting surgeon, who didn't believe my implants were making me sick. He was the only one who could get me in without having to wait months--by that time I was deathly ill and desperate to get them out.

Kate

Sandy Verticelli <dusty.comcomcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Because it is Saturday there was no doctor

in ex-ray department to read my ex-rays

Where will this lead me as my pysician

The intake lady and the tech's do not understand why my

PS chooses to let me suffer as I can hardly function/agony

let me suffer

My plastic surgeon insists he could mame me for life because

of the length of time gone by that the capsules were left in me

My plastic surgeon is afraid to remove my scar capsule

At this point I would not want him to do any type of surgery on me

I want to come out of this alive and get my health back

T

There are other plastic surgeons who have experience doing

en block /drains for woman even years later down the road

They all felt I had a case right there because

I am suffering and he has not helped me thus far

It sounds like my plastic surgeon chooses

to toss me to the curb like a bag of trash

I gave a copy to the ex-ray department on

Residual Capsule and Intercapsular Debris As Long Term Risk Factors

I have to stay hopeful,

Sandy~

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Rogene: That's probably true. His staff was trying to talk me out of it up and even on the day of surgery. I don't think I've mentioned before but he had me sign a special letter they'd made up just for me saying I wouldn't sue him. I had no choice but to sign it as I had to get those implants out immediately. I recently requested copies of my post-op records and the consent form I signed and there was nothing about potential illness, mold, or not being able to sue Mentor, though. KateRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Sometimes I think that a doctor is just trying to delay things by orderning tests - in the expectation that you will change your mind or give up. Re: Mammogram Sandy: Did your PS tell you to get a mammogram? I might be wrong but I don't think they show problems with saline implants. My PS told me to go get a mammogram before he'd do my explant surgery and it showed nothing. I wasted a couple of months getting tests done and waiting to see specialists, trying to get "proof." I wish I'd gotten them taken out sooner, because during that time, my symptoms got worse and worse, plus I was developing new ones almost daily. I had to go to my explanting surgeon, who didn't believe my implants were making me sick. He was the only one who could get me in without having to wait months--by that time I was deathly ill and desperate to get them out. Kate Sandy Verticelli <dusty.comcomcast (DOT) net> wrote: Because it is Saturday there was no doctor in ex-ray department to read my ex-rays Where will this lead me as my pysician The intake lady and the tech's do not understand why my PS chooses to let me suffer as I can hardly function/agony let me suffer My plastic surgeon insists he could mame me for life because of the length of time gone by that the capsules were left in me My plastic surgeon is afraid to remove my scar capsule At this point I would not want him to do any type of surgery on

me I want to come out of this alive and get my health back T There are other plastic surgeons who have experience doing en block /drains for woman even years later down the road

They all felt I had a case right there because I am suffering and he has not helped me thus far It sounds like my plastic surgeon chooses to toss me to the curb like a bag of trash I gave a copy to the ex-ray department on Residual Capsule and Intercapsular Debris As Long Term Risk Factors I have to stay hopeful, Sandy~ Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Never Miss an EmailStay connected with on your mobile. Get started!

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Oh good, I thought I was the only one.

    ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb

“In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15

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Shari

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nicely put Shari

Suzi

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From: SV <shavig@...>health Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 8:34:32 PMSubject: MAMMOGRAM



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Shari

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Katy,

I'm pretty sure that most alternative medicine people, are also against

Mammograms.

Bill

On 11/02/2010 22:02, webriter wrote:

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> Oh good, I thought I was the only one.

>     ~Katy

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The thing is Bill, there are levels of truth in all things, some reach one level [like eating a lot of vegetables] and think they know truth, some dig deeper and find out that some things official people have told them are lies [like all fat is bad] but there are still deeper truths like invasive testing is bad, and all chemicals we take in are potentially harmful. I still don't know where the majority of this group is. I'd rather not offend. As you know I get in trouble then. I completely distrust doctors, avoid most foods the majority of medicos and even health-care experts say is good, and do not believe in the prevailing 'truths' from most medical journals and 'studies'. But I think it's something all of us need to come to on our own. <me.

    ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb

“In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15

http://www.orchardhouseheirlooms.net/ survival seeds

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-- Re: MAMMOGRAM

Katy,I'm pretty sure that most alternative medicine people, are also against Mammograms.BillOn 11/02/2010 22:02, webriter wrote:>>> Oh good, I thought I was the only one.>     ~Katy

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Everyone here is at different levels or places in their lives.. We do "preach" research besides just asking the group. There is a time and place for "medicos" as you put it.. If I broke a bone... I would need it set... I needed to have neck surgery a few years ago.. chiro did all he could do.. it was my only choice left or live in pain and eventually maybe some paralysis.

Suzi

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What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

From: webriter <webriter@...>health Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 9:38:26 AMSubject: Re: MAMMOGRAM

The thing is Bill, there are levels of truth in all things, some reach one level [like eating a lot of vegetables] and think they know truth, some dig deeper and find out that some things official people have told them are lies [like all fat is bad] but there are still deeper truths like invasive testing is bad, and all chemicals we take in are potentially harmful. I still don't know where the majority of this group is. I'd rather not offend. As you know I get in trouble then. I completely distrust doctors, avoid most foods the majority of medicos and even health-care experts say is good, and do not believe in the prevailing 'truths' from most medical journals and 'studies'. But I think it's something all of us need to come to on our own. <me.

    ~Katy Sheep to the right; His Lamb

“In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength" Isa 30:15

http://www.orchardhouseheirlooms.net/ survival seeds