Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 I believe they would ship to the U.S. and if I ever go back there I will probably give it a try. I live in the Philippines. I have a prescription but was not asked for it by local customs on the one shipment I have received thus far. I believe I read somewhere that under FDA rules one may import medications to the U.S. as long as the medication is licensed for sale in the U.S. I don't think they are licensed there, just the major drug companies, Lilly, etc. I guess the short answer is you would probably do alright as long as customs didn't spot the shipment and question it. (The only paperwork with the shipment is in the Chinese language.) I just don't want to te the source of information that might get someone in trouble so take what I tell you with a grain of salt. You might query Anhui. Hadley At 09:32 PM 10/6/00 -0800, you wrote: >Hello Hadley >Why do you fear that US customers would have trouble? >Does Anhui not ship to the US, or is it because of US import >restrictions? May I ask where you live, that you are able to >order without any trouble? Are there restrictions on buying >GH from China there? Do you have to have a prescription? >3$ per IU is a great price, if the GH is good quality. >Andy > >Hadley Wells wrote: > >> Please kill the following inadvertant post. >> >> I fear U.S. customers might run into difficulties if they try this source. >> >> Hadley >> >> > >> > >> >I get my growth hormone at a price of $3 per IU (international unit) out >> of China and use 1 IU per day. It costs as much as $16 per IU elsewhere. I >> have used one of the more expsnsive brabds abd can tell no difference in >> results. >> > >> >Here is an address if you are interested. >> > >> > Zhao >> >AnkeBio INC. >> >29/08/2000 >> > >> >Anhui Anke High Biotechnology INC. >> >312 Suixi Road, Hefei, Anhui Prov.230031 >> >China >> >http://www.ankebio.com >> >e-mail:ankebio@... >> >tel:+86-551-5146121/5145361 >> >fax:+86-551-5145861 >> > >> >Please tell Zhao I referred you to her. >> > >> >Good luck. >> > >> >Hadley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 Thanks for the info Hadley. The US Customs website is at http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/travel/travel.htm I cut and paste all the following. Its contradictory and infuriating that, probably due to the desperate condition of AIDS patients, they will appear to let us " maybe " get to have the the medications available for much less elsewhere, but still call it " illegal " and apparantly subject to seizure at at a Customs officials " discretion " , what -ever that may mean. I think current policy is less to protect us from possible harm as it is to protect the gross profits of the big-money drug companies. Anyway Hadley, thanks for the info. Andy Consumer Alert The U.S. Customs Service enforces Federal laws and regulations, including those of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). A new bill was recently passed by Congress that amends a portion of the Controlled Substances Act (21USC956(a)). This amendment allows a United States resident to import up to 50 dosage units of a controlled medication without a valid prescription at an international land border. These medications must be declared upon arrival, be for your own personal use and in their original container. However, travelers should be aware that drug products which are not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration may not be acceptable for such importation. FDA warns that such drugs are often of unknown quality and discourages buying drugs sold in foreign countries. Please go to http://www.fda.gov/ora/import/purchasing_medications.htm for further information. The United States Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. sections 331(d), and 355(a)), which is administered by FDA, prohibits the interstate shipment (which includes importation) of unapproved new drugs. Unapproved new drugs are any drugs, including foreign-made versions of U.S. approved drugs, that have not received FDA approval to demonstrate they meet the federal requirements for safety and effectiveness. It is the importer's obligation to demonstrate to FDA that any drugs offered for importation have been approved by FDA. FDA has developed guidance entitled " Coverage of Personal Importations " which sets forth that agency's enforcement priorities with respect to the personal importation of unapproved new drugs by individuals for their personal use. The guidance identifies circumstances in which FDA may consider exercising enforcement discretion and refrain from taking legal action against illegally imported drugs. Those circumstances are as follows: 1. the intended use (of the drug) is unapproved and for a serious condition for which effective treatment may not be available domestically either through commercial or clinical means; 2. there is no known commercialization or promotion to persons residing in the U.S. by those involved in the distribution of the product at issue; 3. the product is considered not to represent an unreasonable risk; 4. the individual seeking to import the product affirms in writing that it is for the patient’s own use (generally not more than a 3-month supply) and provides the name and address of the doctor licensed in the U.S. responsible for his or her treatment with the product, or provides evidence that the product is for the continuation of a treatment begun in a foreign country. FDA's guidance is not, however, a license for individuals to import unapproved (and therefore illegal) drugs for personal use into the U.S. Even if all of the factors noted in the guidance are present, the drugs remain illegal and FDA may decide that such drugs should be refused entry or seized. The guidance represents FDA’s current thinking regarding the issues of personal importation and is intended only to provide operating guidance for FDA personnel. The guidance does not create any legally enforceable rights for the public; nor does it operate to bind FDA or the public. To avoid travel delays and to prevent possible harm from taking unsafe or ineffective medications, residents and visitors upon arrival to or departure from the U.S. should keep in mind the following precautions: Do not assume that medications which are legal in foreign countries are also approved for use in the United States. These products may be illegal and may include addictive and dangerous substances; Be aware that the labeled uses (conditions for which the product is represented to be effective) for a product purchased outside the U.S. may not be approved in the United States; It can be dangerous to take some medications without medical supervision. The reason why some medications are limited to prescription use in the United States is that either they are unsafe without medical supervision or a medical diagnosis is required to ensure that the medication is appropriate for your condition; Avoid purchasing any drug products that they do not approve for sale in the U.S. (including foreign-manufactured versions of U.S. approved drugs). FDA cannot assure that these products conform to the manufacturing and quality assurance procedures mandated by U.S. laws and regulations and, therefore, these products may be unsafe. In addition, such products are illegal in the U.S. and, therefore, may be subject to entry refusal; Some medications which may appear to be U.S. approved drug products may in fact be counterfeit versions of such products. (The term " counterfeit drug' is defined as " a drug which, or the container or labeling of which, without authorization, bears the trademark, trade name, or other identifying mark, imprint, or device, or any likeness thereof, of a drug manufacturer, processor, packer, or distributor other than the person or persons who in fact manufactured, processed, packed, or distributed such drug and which thereby falsely purports or is represented to be the product of, or to have been packed or distributed by, such other drug manufacturer, processor, packer, or distributor. " See 21 U.S.C. 321(g)(2)); In the event you develop complications from using a medication which require medical attention, your treatment could be delayed or made more difficult unless there is sufficient information available about the product, such as the generic name of the product, dosage form and strength, and how often you need to take the product. Possession of certain medications without a prescription from a physician licensed in the United States may violate Federal, State, and/or local laws; lt is important to have medications in the originally-dispensed container; FDA's personal importation guidance provides that when bringing unapproved drugs into the U.S. for use in treating serious or life threatening illness, such products should be used under the care and supervision of a U.S. licensed physician. It is advisable to make available for examination by U.S. Customs Inspectors or other appropriate government authorities appropriate documentation of such monitoring; It is against the law not to properly declare imported medications to U.S. Customs. When the type of drug, the quantity, or the combination of various drugs arouse suspicions, U.S. Customs Inspectors will ordinarily contact the nearest FDA or DEA office for advice and will then make a final determination about whether to release or detain the article. (See 19 U.S.C. 1499). In addition to federal requirements, individual States may have additional requirements covering prescription (Rx) or controlled medications. Travelers should check with State authorities, where they reside or are traveling, to verify that a particular prescription does in fact comply with State regulations. In many areas, the local police department and pharmacies can provide additional information. For more detailed information on FDA's personal importation guidance, contact your local FDA office, or check out FDA's Internet website. Hadley Wells wrote: > I believe they would ship to the U.S. and if I ever go back there I will > probably give it a try. I live in the Philippines. I have a prescription > but was not asked for it by local customs on the one shipment I have > received thus far. > > I believe I read somewhere that under FDA rules one may import medications > to the U.S. as long as the medication is licensed for sale in the U.S. I > don't think they are licensed there, just the major drug companies, Lilly, > etc. > > I guess the short answer is you would probably do alright as long as > customs didn't spot the shipment and question it. (The only paperwork > with the shipment is in the Chinese language.) > > I just don't want to te the source of information that might get someone in > trouble so take what I tell you with a grain of salt. > > You might query Anhui. > > Hadley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 Andy, Thanks for the FDA information. I will refer those with any further queries on the drug shipment information to this material. Let them read it and make their own decisions. Hadley At 10:04 AM 10/7/00 -0800, you wrote: >Thanks for the info Hadley. >The US Customs website is at >http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/travel/travel.htm >I cut and paste all the following. Its contradictory >and infuriating that, probably due to the desperate >condition of AIDS patients, they will appear to let us > " maybe " get to have the the medications available for >much less elsewhere, but still call it " illegal " and apparantly >subject to seizure at at a Customs officials " discretion " , what >-ever that may mean. I think current policy is less to protect >us from possible harm as it is to protect the gross profits of >the big-money drug companies. >Anyway Hadley, thanks for the info. >Andy > > > > Consumer Alert > > The U.S. Customs Service enforces Federal laws and regulations, > including those of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and the > Food and Drug Administration (FDA). > > A new bill was recently passed by Congress that amends a portion of > the Controlled Substances Act (21USC956(a)). This amendment > allows a United States resident to import up to 50 dosage units of a > controlled medication without a valid prescription at an international > land border. These medications must be declared upon arrival, be for > your own personal use and in their original container. However, > travelers should be aware that drug products which are not approved > by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration may not be acceptable for > such importation. FDA warns that such drugs are often of unknown > quality and discourages buying drugs sold in foreign countries. Please > go to http://www.fda.gov/ora/import/purchasing_medications.htm for > further information. > > The United States Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. > sections 331(d), and 355(a)), which is administered by FDA, prohibits > the interstate shipment (which includes importation) of unapproved > new drugs. Unapproved new drugs are any drugs, including > foreign-made versions of U.S. approved drugs, that have not received > FDA approval to demonstrate they meet the federal requirements for > safety and effectiveness. It is the importer's obligation to demonstrate > to FDA that any drugs offered for importation have been approved by > FDA. > > FDA has developed guidance entitled " Coverage of Personal > Importations " which sets forth that agency's enforcement priorities > with respect to the personal importation of unapproved new drugs by > individuals for their personal use. The guidance identifies > circumstances in which FDA may consider exercising enforcement > discretion and refrain from taking legal action against illegally imported > drugs. Those circumstances are as follows: > > 1. the intended use (of the drug) is unapproved and for a > serious condition for which effective treatment may not be > available domestically either through commercial or clinical > means; > > 2. there is no known commercialization or promotion to > persons residing in the U.S. by those involved in the distribution > of the product at issue; > > 3. the product is considered not to represent an unreasonable > risk; > > 4. the individual seeking to import the product affirms in > writing that it is for the patient’s own use (generally not more > than a 3-month supply) and provides the name and address of > the doctor licensed in the U.S. responsible for his or her > treatment with the product, or provides evidence that the > product is for the continuation of a treatment begun in a foreign > country. > > FDA's guidance is not, however, a license for individuals to import > unapproved (and therefore illegal) drugs for personal use into the U.S. > Even if all of the factors noted in the guidance are present, the drugs > remain illegal and FDA may decide that such drugs should be refused > entry or seized. The guidance represents FDA’s current thinking > regarding the issues of personal importation and is intended only to > provide operating guidance for FDA personnel. The guidance does not > create any legally enforceable rights for the public; nor does it operate > to bind FDA or the public. > > To avoid travel delays and to prevent possible harm from taking unsafe > or ineffective medications, residents and visitors upon arrival to or > departure from the U.S. should keep in mind the following precautions: > > Do not assume that medications which are legal in foreign countries > are also approved for use in the United States. These products may > be illegal and may include addictive and dangerous substances; > > Be aware that the labeled uses (conditions for which the > product is represented to be effective) for a product > purchased outside the U.S. may not be approved in the > United States; > > It can be dangerous to take some medications without > medical supervision. The reason why some medications > are limited to prescription use in the United States is > that either they are unsafe without medical supervision > or a medical diagnosis is required to ensure that the > medication is appropriate for your condition; > > Avoid purchasing any drug products that they do not > approve for sale in the U.S. (including > foreign-manufactured versions of U.S. approved drugs). > FDA cannot assure that these products conform to the > manufacturing and quality assurance procedures > mandated by U.S. laws and regulations and, therefore, > these products may be unsafe. In addition, such > products are illegal in the U.S. and, therefore, may be > subject to entry refusal; > > Some medications which may appear to be U.S. > approved drug products may in fact be counterfeit > versions of such products. (The term " counterfeit drug' is > defined as " a drug which, or the container or labeling of > which, without authorization, bears the trademark, trade > name, or other identifying mark, imprint, or device, or > any likeness thereof, of a drug manufacturer, processor, > packer, or distributor other than the person or persons > who in fact manufactured, processed, packed, or > distributed such drug and which thereby falsely purports > or is represented to be the product of, or to have been > packed or distributed by, such other drug manufacturer, > processor, packer, or distributor. " See 21 U.S.C. > 321(g)(2)); > > In the event you develop complications from using a > medication which require medical attention, your > treatment could be delayed or made more difficult > unless there is sufficient information available about the > product, such as the generic name of the product, > dosage form and strength, and how often you need to > take the product. > > Possession of certain medications without a prescription > from a physician licensed in the United States may > violate Federal, State, and/or local laws; > > lt is important to have medications in the > originally-dispensed container; > > FDA's personal importation guidance provides that when > bringing unapproved drugs into the U.S. for use in > treating serious or life threatening illness, such products > should be used under the care and supervision of a U.S. > licensed physician. It is advisable to make available for > examination by U.S. Customs Inspectors or other > appropriate government authorities appropriate > documentation of such monitoring; > > It is against the law not to properly declare imported > medications to U.S. Customs. > > When the type of drug, the quantity, or the combination > of various drugs arouse suspicions, U.S. Customs > Inspectors will ordinarily contact the nearest FDA or > DEA office for advice and will then make a final > determination about whether to release or detain the > article. (See 19 U.S.C. 1499). > > In addition to federal requirements, individual States may have > additional requirements covering prescription (Rx) or controlled > medications. Travelers should check with State authorities, where > they reside or are traveling, to verify that a particular prescription does > in fact comply with State regulations. In many areas, the local police > department and pharmacies can provide additional information. > > For more detailed information on FDA's personal importation guidance, > contact your local FDA office, or check out FDA's Internet website. > >Hadley Wells wrote: > >> I believe they would ship to the U.S. and if I ever go back there I will >> probably give it a try. I live in the Philippines. I have a prescription >> but was not asked for it by local customs on the one shipment I have >> received thus far. >> >> I believe I read somewhere that under FDA rules one may import medications >> to the U.S. as long as the medication is licensed for sale in the U.S. I >> don't think they are licensed there, just the major drug companies, Lilly, >> etc. >> >> I guess the short answer is you would probably do alright as long as >> customs didn't spot the shipment and question it. (The only paperwork >> with the shipment is in the Chinese language.) >> >> I just don't want to te the source of information that might get someone in >> trouble so take what I tell you with a grain of salt. >> >> You might query Anhui. >> >> Hadley > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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