Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 Hi , Check out this link. http://www.cranialtech.com/infocenter/infocent.htm The owner of this group is from Canada. Kendra is her name. I'm sure she could point you in the right direction. The neurosurgeon I went to, had the same attitude as the neurologist you went to. I got a second opinion and then a third. My daughter gets casted for a DOC band on Wednesday. I'm sure one of the Moms from Canada will chime in here and help you out. This group is really GREAT! Very educated on plagio and very supportive. You've come to the right place. Welcome! > Hello there, > > Today my husband and I went to see a neurologist. It didn't go as > we expected in that he was totally against the helmet. We were told > what we already knew, that our baby had plagiocephaly. Since we've > educated ourselves about the helmet, we asked the doctor about > getting one. The Dr. flat out said " No, I would not recommend a > helmet. I never have and I never will. " Basically he feels that no > one has a perfectly shaped head and that it should improve from > these months onward. He says that the helmets are 'a product of > american enterprise'. He says that there has been no medical > evidence to prove that these helmets work. Dr. H says that most > insurance co.s will not provide coverage because it is not medically > necessary. He wonders why these helmet making companies have not > commissioned any studies because if they are so good, it could only > benefit them? He insinuated that it might be possible that they > have but the results are not favorable - like tobacco companies. > What I am feeling now is that I don't know if or how I should pursue > this. Gosh, I was so sure about getting the helmet and now I find > myself backing away. I don't want to have any regrets next year and > for the rest of his life. I asked the Dr whether he usually sees > patients after this initial visit. He says no. How the heck does > he know that these babies heads round out then? There must be many > of you who have had difficulty getting the helmet. I am from > Toronto, Canada and I anticipate more difficult getting one here. > > The neurologist says he used to see these cases only occassionally, > and now he sees 7-15 cases per week. So could it be that this is a > new problem for which the solution: the helmet - is just so new that > doctors are tenative because they are inexperienced? > > Truth is, I'm not sure what to do now. > > > (mom to Kale) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 , I am sorry to hear that your appointment didn't go as well as you had anticipated. The statement your neuro says about never recommending a band, and never will says a great deal about him. It sounds like he might have a major case of the God complex. Whether or not these helmets are product of American enterprise, all of us here are proof that they do work. If you still are having doubts as to what route to take, I suggest you get a second opinion. I have heard some really good things about Dr. Forrest at Toronto Sick Kids, maybe you could set up an appointment with him. Good luck , and hang in there! Niki Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads) Phila., PA > Hello there, > > Today my husband and I went to see a neurologist. It didn't go as > we expected in that he was totally against the helmet. We were told > what we already knew, that our baby had plagiocephaly. Since we've > educated ourselves about the helmet, we asked the doctor about > getting one. The Dr. flat out said " No, I would not recommend a > helmet. I never have and I never will. " Basically he feels that no > one has a perfectly shaped head and that it should improve from > these months onward. He says that the helmets are 'a product of > american enterprise'. He says that there has been no medical > evidence to prove that these helmets work. Dr. H says that most > insurance co.s will not provide coverage because it is not medically > necessary. He wonders why these helmet making companies have not > commissioned any studies because if they are so good, it could only > benefit them? He insinuated that it might be possible that they > have but the results are not favorable - like tobacco companies. > What I am feeling now is that I don't know if or how I should pursue > this. Gosh, I was so sure about getting the helmet and now I find > myself backing away. I don't want to have any regrets next year and > for the rest of his life. I asked the Dr whether he usually sees > patients after this initial visit. He says no. How the heck does > he know that these babies heads round out then? There must be many > of you who have had difficulty getting the helmet. I am from > Toronto, Canada and I anticipate more difficult getting one here. > > The neurologist says he used to see these cases only occassionally, > and now he sees 7-15 cases per week. So could it be that this is a > new problem for which the solution: the helmet - is just so new that > doctors are tenative because they are inexperienced? > > Truth is, I'm not sure what to do now. > > > (mom to Kale) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 - This guy disturbs me because he says he never recommends helmets and never will. Boy, that's pretty open minded!? NOT! I can assure you, the bands do work. My son is a crawling example of this. He looks awesome and I would say that his his facial asymmetry was enough prior to the band to make him look deformed. If this dr. son needed braces, would he be opposed to them? Probably not. I can't understand why dentists aren't against braces, but these pompous dr are against banding. I'm not saying Kale needs a band, just that you might want to consider another dr since this one is so close minded. Dane's mom DOC Grad > Hello there, > > Today my husband and I went to see a neurologist. It didn't go as > we expected in that he was totally against the helmet. We were told > what we already knew, that our baby had plagiocephaly. Since we've > educated ourselves about the helmet, we asked the doctor about > getting one. The Dr. flat out said " No, I would not recommend a > helmet. I never have and I never will. " Basically he feels that no > one has a perfectly shaped head and that it should improve from > these months onward. He says that the helmets are 'a product of > american enterprise'. He says that there has been no medical > evidence to prove that these helmets work. Dr. H says that most > insurance co.s will not provide coverage because it is not medically > necessary. He wonders why these helmet making companies have not > commissioned any studies because if they are so good, it could only > benefit them? He insinuated that it might be possible that they > have but the results are not favorable - like tobacco companies. > What I am feeling now is that I don't know if or how I should pursue > this. Gosh, I was so sure about getting the helmet and now I find > myself backing away. I don't want to have any regrets next year and > for the rest of his life. I asked the Dr whether he usually sees > patients after this initial visit. He says no. How the heck does > he know that these babies heads round out then? There must be many > of you who have had difficulty getting the helmet. I am from > Toronto, Canada and I anticipate more difficult getting one here. > > The neurologist says he used to see these cases only occassionally, > and now he sees 7-15 cases per week. So could it be that this is a > new problem for which the solution: the helmet - is just so new that > doctors are tenative because they are inexperienced? > > Truth is, I'm not sure what to do now. > > > (mom to Kale) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 I can't understand why dentists aren't against braces, but these pompous dr are against banding. AMEN : I wonder that EVERY time I read posts like 's. Only difference between bands & braces are that bands don't hurt like braces do! grrr....I'm getting all worked up now! Debbie Abby's mom MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 Hi everyone, I just loved all your replies about my pompous neurologist. I was feeling pretty bad. I came out of that appointment feeling vain, and guilty for wanting to get a helmet - like I should be greatful that he's happy and healthy the way he is. To the neurologist, it was like if I wanted the helmet, that would make me a superficial and bad mom. Who could love and accept Kale for who he is, more than me? After reading your responses and talking to my husband and sister, I realized that I was wavering on the helmet because I put too much faith and trust into these professionals are supposed to be more educated, experienced and knowledgeable. But the fact is, they aren't. So, yesterday I made an appointment with our pediatrician again and this time I armed myself with printouts of studies, before and after shots, names of the doctors whom I need to be referred to etc. I expected to be stonewalled and have to go to another doctor. I was really surprised that my ped was so positive. I asked her what her stance was and she said that she didn't know yet because it's all so new. She said that we just don't know what the after affects of these helmets are (20yrs down the line)but, if the child does not protest in it, then that's a good indication. I told her that time was of the essence since he's already 7 1/2 months. She was willing to give the referral, and even said she'd try to speed up the process. Would you beleive that she even asked if she could have those printouts? I feel proud of myself today, that I gave her the chance to learn what I know. And now this information can help some other babies sooner. Thanks guys for setting me straight. (Kale's mom) > Hello there, > > Today my husband and I went to see a neurologist. It didn't go as > we expected in that he was totally against the helmet. We were told > what we already knew, that our baby had plagiocephaly. Since we've > educated ourselves about the helmet, we asked the doctor about > getting one. The Dr. flat out said " No, I would not recommend a > helmet. I never have and I never will. " Basically he feels that no > one has a perfectly shaped head and that it should improve from > these months onward. He says that the helmets are 'a product of > american enterprise'. He says that there has been no medical > evidence to prove that these helmets work. Dr. H says that most > insurance co.s will not provide coverage because it is not medically > necessary. He wonders why these helmet making companies have not > commissioned any studies because if they are so good, it could only > benefit them? He insinuated that it might be possible that they > have but the results are not favorable - like tobacco companies. > What I am feeling now is that I don't know if or how I should pursue > this. Gosh, I was so sure about getting the helmet and now I find > myself backing away. I don't want to have any regrets next year and > for the rest of his life. I asked the Dr whether he usually sees > patients after this initial visit. He says no. How the heck does > he know that these babies heads round out then? There must be many > of you who have had difficulty getting the helmet. I am from > Toronto, Canada and I anticipate more difficult getting one here. > > The neurologist says he used to see these cases only occassionally, > and now he sees 7-15 cases per week. So could it be that this is a > new problem for which the solution: the helmet - is just so new that > doctors are tenative because they are inexperienced? > > Truth is, I'm not sure what to do now. > > > (mom to Kale) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 : YOu should be VERY proud of yourself! Way to go. By taking the time to discuss your concerns with your ped. & bringing in tons of backup information you have probably helped a number of parents & children in the future I am very happy your ped. listened so well & will be so helpful in getting your process moving faster. Please let us know when Kale has any other appts and what you end up doing. You're a great great mom! Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad MI > > Hello there, > > > > Today my husband and I went to see a neurologist. It didn't go as > > we expected in that he was totally against the helmet. We were > told > > what we already knew, that our baby had plagiocephaly. Since > we've > > educated ourselves about the helmet, we asked the doctor about > > getting one. The Dr. flat out said " No, I would not recommend a > > helmet. I never have and I never will. " Basically he feels that > no > > one has a perfectly shaped head and that it should improve from > > these months onward. He says that the helmets are 'a product of > > american enterprise'. He says that there has been no medical > > evidence to prove that these helmets work. Dr. H says that most > > insurance co.s will not provide coverage because it is not > medically > > necessary. He wonders why these helmet making companies have not > > commissioned any studies because if they are so good, it could > only > > benefit them? He insinuated that it might be possible that they > > have but the results are not favorable - like tobacco companies. > > What I am feeling now is that I don't know if or how I should > pursue > > this. Gosh, I was so sure about getting the helmet and now I find > > myself backing away. I don't want to have any regrets next year > and > > for the rest of his life. I asked the Dr whether he usually sees > > patients after this initial visit. He says no. How the heck does > > he know that these babies heads round out then? There must be > many > > of you who have had difficulty getting the helmet. I am from > > Toronto, Canada and I anticipate more difficult getting one here. > > > > The neurologist says he used to see these cases only > occassionally, > > and now he sees 7-15 cases per week. So could it be that this is > a > > new problem for which the solution: the helmet - is just so new > that > > doctors are tenative because they are inexperienced? > > > > Truth is, I'm not sure what to do now. > > > > > > (mom to Kale) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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