RE: Re: Heart rhythm (or lack thereof)

[Guest guest]

When I have a pt with HTN and anxiety I tend to add a BB to see if it

helps both BP and anxiety. In many cases it helps both.

In your case I would try bisoproprol at the lowest dose available at

your pharm at bed time.

May or may not help BP or anxiety.

On Apr 13, 2008, at 11:29 PM, val1198 wrote:

>

> I was on Toprol, Zestril and HCTZ for a couple of years before

> parathyroid surgery (1997 - 1999). As I remember, they didn't control

> it very well.

>

>

> >

> > Have you ever been on a BB?

>

>

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim BS, MS, MD

High Blood Pressure Consulting

Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure

Consult the following at for details

bloodpressureline

hyperaldosteronism

[Guest guest]

Did help me, and was heart protective to boot. Beta blocker.

Clarence Grim wrote:

>

> When I have a pt with HTN and anxiety I tend to add a BB to see if it

> helps both BP and anxiety. In many cases it helps both.

>

> In your case I would try bisoproprol at the lowest dose available at

> your pharm at bed time.

>

> May or may not help BP or anxiety.

>

> On Apr 13, 2008, at 11:29 PM, val1198 wrote:

>

> >

> > I was on Toprol, Zestril and HCTZ for a couple of years before

> > parathyroid surgery (1997 - 1999). As I remember, they didn't control

> > it very well.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Have you ever been on a BB?

> >

> >

> May your pressure be low!

>

> CE Grim BS, MS, MD

> High Blood Pressure Consulting

> Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure

> Consult the following at for details

> bloodpressureline

> hyperaldosteronism

>

[Guest guest]

val1198 wrote:

>

>

> I was on Toprol, Zestril and HCTZ for a couple of years

>

A familiar PA unawares cocktail -with the inevitable HCTZ to keep K low

and cause cumulative damage from that and uncontrolled HTN.

>

> before

> parathyroid surgery (1997 - 1999). As I remember, they didn't control

> it very well.

>

Didn't control what very well? BP, anxiety or hypokalemia?

>

>

>

> >

> > Have you ever been on a BB?

>

>

[Guest guest]

BP not well controlled until after surgery.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Dave

val1198 wrote:

>

>

> I was on Toprol, Zestril and HCTZ for a couple of years

Didn't control what very well? BP, anxiety or hypokalemia?

>

>

>

> >

> > Have you ever been on a BB?

[Guest guest]

Is it bisoprolol or bisoproprol

Bisoprolol is a drug belonging to the group of beta blockers - wiki

or

BISOPROPROL/HCTZ 5/6.25mg TABLE 30 - Walmart list

Val

Clarence Grim wrote:

>

> When I have a pt with HTN and anxiety I tend to add a BB to see if it

> helps both BP and anxiety. In many cases it helps both.

>

> In your case I would try bisoproprol at the lowest dose available at

> your pharm at bed time.

>

> May or may not help BP or anxiety.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . I've been averaging 1272/day since I started recording

everything on 4/1. That should be enough for me because I'm not very big

(4'9.5 " ). Yesterday, on basically fruit, salad and veggies, I got 1129.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of mmcandmcc

I'm no expert on nutrition, but are you sure you're getting enough

calories? My doc did tell me that mood is closely tied to blood

sugar.

[Guest guest]

Jan, thank you for writing. It really helps to hear others' stories. I'm

getting propranolol today. I pray it helps. I have a cardiology consult in

June but maybe I should get my endo to get me an echo?

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of ipscalifornia

Dear Val,

I can totally understand your anxiety. First of all I think your

irregular heart beat and htn is causing your your anxiety but you

should have a complete heart work up to make sure there's nothing

else causing the problem. I had my first serious arrythmia when I

was 21. A prominent heart specialist diagnosed me as having

recurrent rheumatic fever ( I had it when I was 12 years old with no

heart involvement). Subsequent doctors have disagreed with that

diagnosis. I've had short attacks over the years(1 or 2 weeks at a

time)but mild and I learned to live with it until I was about 60

years old. At that time I started having more severe attacks and it

was so uncomfortable that I was again tested and learned I have pre

atrial contractions. Doctors believe this is not to worry about and

may even be beneficial. I was still having more irregular beats then

I could live with so I went on a beta blocker. I tried several

different ones and settled on toprol xl as it does not make me tired.

Since I started a beta blocker, the only attack I've had was when I

tried norvasc for htn. Off that drug and have lived without

irregular heart beats for about 10 years now.

I know how unconfortable this is for you as I could barely function

with it. You really should find out the cause. It's hard enough to

live with PA without the added discomfort and worry with your heart

going crazy all the time.

I am fortunate that I have a husband who has had a lot of medical

training and is very supportive. He has had extensive training on

the anatomy and function of the heart(probably more than a lot of

doctors) and can explain the heart to me in terms that I understand

so I am not anxious about damaging my heart.

Hope this helps a little. You should really get some help with this

as you have a lot going on and you can't possibly have a life with

all that's happening to you.

Good luck.

Jan

P.S. If an anti anxiety med helps, take it and don't worry about it.

You shouldn't have to worry about something that is helpin you.

[Guest guest]

The echo wont make any difference in what you do now. I would wait for

the Cards person who is expert in this.

On Apr 15, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Valarie wrote:

> Jan, thank you for writing. It really helps to hear others' stories.

> I'm

> getting propranolol today. I pray it helps. I have a cardiology

> consult in

> June but maybe I should get my endo to get me an echo?

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of ipscalifornia

>

> Dear Val,

>

> I can totally understand your anxiety. First of all I think your

> irregular heart beat and htn is causing your your anxiety but you

> should have a complete heart work up to make sure there's nothing

> else causing the problem. I had my first serious arrythmia when I

> was 21. A prominent heart specialist diagnosed me as having

> recurrent rheumatic fever ( I had it when I was 12 years old with no

> heart involvement). Subsequent doctors have disagreed with that

> diagnosis. I've had short attacks over the years(1 or 2 weeks at a

> time)but mild and I learned to live with it until I was about 60

> years old. At that time I started having more severe attacks and it

> was so uncomfortable that I was again tested and learned I have pre

> atrial contractions. Doctors believe this is not to worry about and

> may even be beneficial. I was still having more irregular beats then

> I could live with so I went on a beta blocker. I tried several

> different ones and settled on toprol xl as it does not make me tired.

> Since I started a beta blocker, the only attack I've had was when I

> tried norvasc for htn. Off that drug and have lived without

> irregular heart beats for about 10 years now.

>

> I know how unconfortable this is for you as I could barely function

> with it. You really should find out the cause. It's hard enough to

> live with PA without the added discomfort and worry with your heart

> going crazy all the time.

>

> I am fortunate that I have a husband who has had a lot of medical

> training and is very supportive. He has had extensive training on

> the anatomy and function of the heart(probably more than a lot of

> doctors) and can explain the heart to me in terms that I understand

> so I am not anxious about damaging my heart.

>

> Hope this helps a little. You should really get some help with this

> as you have a lot going on and you can't possibly have a life with

> all that's happening to you.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Jan

>

> P.S. If an anti anxiety med helps, take it and don't worry about it.

> You shouldn't have to worry about something that is helpin you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you. I will just sit tight and hope the Inderal works. I had to dope

myself up with Ativan before I could go get a massage. I hate feeling

doped, but my heart is calm. Lordy, I appreciate you!

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim

The echo wont make any difference in what you do now. I would wait for

the Cards person who is expert in this.