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Mel,

Thank you for the grammatical clarification on the word " pedantry " ! I don't

believe you were being " overly punctilious " . Oops, was this a redundant

phrase?

Mike Doyle,

NSCA-CPT, CSCS

>From: " Brett Blaney " <mpakt@...>

>Reply-supertrainingegroups

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>Subject: Pedantism & Language

>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:09:14 -0600

>

>Matt Madsen wrote:

>

>This level of pedantism is simply disgusting.

>

>I don't know if Krieger's comments about " burning " a calorie was an

>exhibit of pedantism or not, but I really like the word pedantism. I had to

>look it up, and I am for sure going to use it in the future. It sounds

>impressive. ;~)

>

>Brett Blaney

>

>

>***In which dictionary did you find " pedantism " ? If one is to be entirely

>pedantic, then " pedantism " is not standard English. In standard English,

>the noun from " pedantic " is " pedantry " , a word that gained some renown when

>Winston Churchill used it in responding to someone who criticised his use

>of the English language. His well-known retort is reputed to have been:

>

> " This is the arrant pedantry up with which I shall not put! "

>

>Someone who is concerned about pedantry is often called " punctilious " ,

>namely one who is scrupulously observant about details and finer points.

>

>Another comment: it is totally incorrect to state that " pedantism " is

>different than " pedantry " . Despite the widespread misuse of " than " in

>this context, it is correct English to state that " pedantism " is different

>from " pedantry " .

>

>Yet very common error that numerous journalists even continue to make, is

>the confusion of " its " with " it's " , as in the sentence: " The cat licked

>it's paw " . " It's " is the abbreviated form of " it is " , whereas " its " is a

>possessive pronoun.

>

>Unfortunately, the Microsoft program dictionaries perpetuate many

>linguistic errors in their spell(ing) and grammar checks. One which

>constantly comes up is a prompt that urges you to replace the word

> " practise " with " practice " in all cases. Whoever wrote their dictionary

>seems to be blissfully unaware that " practice " is the noun form and

> " practise " is the verb form. Thus, I may practise my power clean, but I

>work in a medical practice.

>

>Then, when I am performing a few surgical operations or procedures, I am

>not doing " surgeries " , because this is an incorrect use of the plural form

>of surgery. " Surgeries " is the plural form of " surgery " , the place in

>which surgery takes place; despite commonplace misuse, it is not a synonym

>for " surgical procedures " . Similarly, " accommodations " is not an

>acceptable standard English plural form of " accommodation " .

>

>I remain, yours truly,

>

>Dr Mel C Siff

>Denver, USA

>mcsiff@...

>

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Mel Siff wrote:

> In which dictionary did you find " pedantism " ?

It would appear that I made it up and set myself up for:

> If one is to be entirely pedantic, then " pedantism " is not standard

> English. In standard English, the noun from " pedantic " is >

" pedantry " ...

I shouldn't write while overworked.

> ...a word that gained some renown when Winston Churchill used it in

> responding to someone who criticised his use of the English

> language. His well-known retort is reputed to have been:

>

> " This is the arrant pedantry up with which I shall not put! "

What's so embarrassing about all this is how we just recently

discussed that quote, you and I.

Matt " Put In My Place " Madsen

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