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VAL,

HOW OLD IS YOUR SON?

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Val <magnumlady@...> wrote:

Hi Patty,

Thanks for your reply.

My son is hearing the voices in his head. Its things like double check this

or if you don't you will die. Very distressing for him.

He also says the voice swears.

I'm waiting for him to see a clinical psychologist which I'm hoping will

help.

I hope you get help for your son.

Thanks again,

Val

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> My son also says he hears voices in his head. As a matter of fact, the

> psychiatrist always asks if the voices are just in his head or whether

> he's hearing voices from outside such as from the tv, etc. He says

> they are just in his head. I think it's the ocd thoughts telling him he

> must do certain rituals or something bad will happen. We're still

> working on getting the right medicine so that he can be receptive to

> therapy. Just wanted to let you know other ocders say they hear

> voices. Good luck, Patty

>

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I'm new here.

> > I think my son has ocd, he keeps telling me that he is hearing voice

> in his

> > head. As he says its like having a good side and a bad side.

> > He is also very anxious, washes his hands all the time as well.

> > I'm just not sure what to say to him as regards the voices.

> >

> > Any advice would be great.

> > Val

> >

>

>

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He's 13

Val

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>

> > My son also says he hears voices in his head. As a matter of fact, the

> > psychiatrist always asks if the voices are just in his head or whether

> > he's hearing voices from outside such as from the tv, etc. He says

> > they are just in his head. I think it's the ocd thoughts telling him he

> > must do certain rituals or something bad will happen. We're still

> > working on getting the right medicine so that he can be receptive to

> > therapy. Just wanted to let you know other ocders say they hear

> > voices. Good luck, Patty

> >

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > I'm new here.

> > > I think my son has ocd, he keeps telling me that he is hearing voice

> > in his

> > > head. As he says its like having a good side and a bad side.

> > > He is also very anxious, washes his hands all the time as well.

> > > I'm just not sure what to say to him as regards the voices.

> > >

> > > Any advice would be great.

> > > Val

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed

at:

> / .

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> http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller, M.D.,Aureen Pinto Wagner,

Ph.D.,

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Val,

It's CPK, Creatine phosphokinase. It can indicate

muscle damage but it's not a very specific test. Lots

of other things can elevate it.

a

--- Valarie <val@...> wrote:

> I don't really understand CKP testing. I can't find

> it at

> labtestsonline.org

>

> I've had tightly bound muscles, especially in my

> calves, for years. They

> seemed to be in a constant state of contraction and

> pain. I asked my

> masseuse to work on one last year. When she felt

> it, she was amazed and

> made me promise to drink lots of water after. Since

> being on spiro, those

> muscles have softened up. I'm sure it is the

> increased K I'm enjoying.

>

> BTW, my 14 years of misdiagnosed ankylosing

> spondylitis hell was based on

> one elevated sed rate test. It never came back

> elevated after the initial

> one. He didn't know what to do so he gave me NSAIDS

> and disregarded the

> high calcium.

>

> BTW, my Lyme disease niece, after going to Mayo

> Phoenix, diagnosed herself

> from the Internet and found a doctor in Colorado

> Springs to treat her. I

> diagnosed myself from the Internet and then found

> Dr. Grim.

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On

> Behalf Of aviano237

> Val:

> This is just a thought..but weighing in on the

> " chest heaviness " .

> Hard to say if it is the same thing that I

> experience as the " kicked

> in chest feeling " , but sure sounds similar. I keep

> thinking back to

> the first time that I ever experienced it and it was

> after taking

> Yasmin for a couple of weeks. As you may or may not

> now, Yasmin

> contains a spiro cousin (drospirenone) that can

> cause problems if you

> have adrenal disease. I had worked out after taking

> Yasmin for a

> while (doc had told me that he thought I had PCOS

> due to ration of LH

> to FSH) and woke up next am so weak/tired/depressed

> that I couldn't

> lift my head. I called my GP and she ran labs

> including CKP for some

> reason. CKP and muscle enzymes were EXTREMELY

> elevated. I had not

> worked out any harder than usual. She was so

> concerned about it

> (called a rheumy) that she had me come in EVERY day

> for CKP testing,

> sed rate, etc. She advised me to go OFF the Yasmin,

> which I did and

> she called their side effect hotline. Enzymes came

> down and I was

> okay within about a week and a half.

> I had that " feeling " again this week and had the

> elevated BUN/creat

> ratio. Have to find out if she did CKP again or lab

> missed it on

> requisition.

> Are you absolutely CERTAIN that it isn't the

> increase in spiro that

> caused this? And, do you think it might be helpful

> to check CPK and

> CBC/CMP? Sincerely hope this is helpful and not more

> confusion, :)

> Angie

>

>

> >

> > I titrated per suggestion last night + took Ambien

> CR for the first

> time +

> > resumed cal/mag supplement.

> >

> > 6 p.m. 2.5 mg

> > midnight 5 mg

> > 6 a.m. 7.5 mg (on and off sweats during the

> morning and heavy chest

> feeling)

> > noon 10 mg (big sweat by 12:40. Heavy feeling in

> chest/need deep

> breaths by

> > 1:30 p.m.)

> >

> > I think propranolol increases sweating. Sweating

> increases the

> anxiety.

> > Anxiety increases BP. Therefore, I am theorizing

> that propranolol

> is not

> > good for me. Heart is not skipping though. I can't

> go for a walk

> when I

> > feel this heaviness.

> >

> > Is it safe to just discontinue it or should I

> taper down? I can

> usually

> > knock out any heart skips with Ativan if necessary

> until I get doc

> to change

> > med. She's out of the office until 4/25 but does

> get messages.

> >

> > I had a better night. After I got up to take the 6

> a.m. dose, I

> was able to

> > go back to bed for an hour and doze, without

> anxiety and little

> sweating.

> >

> > Took 125 mg spiro yesterday. Increased to 150 mg

> today.

> >

> > So, I got 6 solid hours of sleep instead of 4 or

> 5. Makes a huge

> > difference. If I could get rid of the chest

> heaviness, I'd feel

> almost

> > normal today. I don't know how much difference the

> Ambien CR made -

> maybe a

> > lot.

> >

> > Haven't taken any Ativan today.

> >

> > Val

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

>

>

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so even non-Drs make mistakes?

On Apr 20, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Valarie wrote:

> Ah, got it! Thanks. It is listed in labtestsonline.org as " CK. "

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of a Hall

>

> Val,

> It's CPK, Creatine phosphokinase. It can indicate

> muscle damage but it's not a very specific test. Lots

> of other things can elevate it.

>

> --- Valarie <val@... <mailto:val%40wyosip.com> > wrote:

>

> > I don't really understand CKP testing. I can't find

> > it at

> > labtestsonline.org

>

>

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