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Hi :

I know that you will get good advice here, and you can also try the

olderplag group that more specifically addresses plagio in

the " older " child (maybe over the 2 year mark...)

Welcome, and I know you'll get the info you need, or at least pointed

in the right direction!

Kind regards,

>

> Hi, I'm and my sons 3yrs olds and we are new

here, i

> never even knew this groups was here till a few days ago.

And i was

> very , very happy that i found it, because I need some help

please . My son

> was diagnosed with plagiocephaly in

> Dec. 1999. He was put in a soft helmet.It seemed to help

alittle.. he wore

> it

> untill Jan. 2002 .At that time the Dr told me his skull was

closed and that

> his head went back in place enough. Well over the last few months

its

> started

> to go back very " lop-sided " again. when i went back to the dr

monday he

> said

> he wants a CT and then would decide what to do.I ask him to put

in back in

> helmet untill the CT was done but he refused. Anyway everything i

have read

> tells about the bands or hard helmets and im kind-of questioning

if my dr

> is

> or has done the right thing, I can't seem to find anything on the

> difference

> in hard helmets vs soft helmets. It's scary because now s to

old for a

> hard helmet from what ive heard and read. So im wondering

(worring) what

> can be done now if anything besides surgery? If any one has any

thought or

> suggestions i would greatly appriciate them.?

>

> Thanks,

>

> P.S. sorry it was so long.

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Hi & welcome to our group!

We're glad you found us. It sounds like you are in a very difficult

position right now. Has ever had CT scans done or Xrays

previously to rule out craniosynostosis (before he turned 2)? It

will probably be hard to tell now if he in fact has cranio, becuz

usually around age 2, the bones fuse in the skull permanently fuse

together. If the bones have fused before age 2, this is usually

craniosynostosis. Plagiocephaly & craniosynostosis can be confused

with one another.

What did your Dr. say he would be looking for with the CT scan? It

is very rare for plagio to continue getting worse or to regress after

the sutures close, after age 2. It is a good idea to get the CTscan

done.

I hate to tell you, but I don't think there is any way to correct

your son's condition now that he is 3 yrs of age without surgery :(.

Do you have any photos you could send us? email to

plagiocephaly We'd all love to see your cutie!

Cranial Technologies, maker of the DOCband will not band a child

after age 2, nor will any other helmet manufacturer.

I hope you get some answers, I wish I could be of more help.

Welcome again.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

>

> Hi, I'm and my sons 3yrs olds and we are new

here, i

> never even knew this groups was here till a few days ago.

And i was

> very , very happy that i found it, because I need some help

please . My son

> was diagnosed with plagiocephaly in

> Dec. 1999. He was put in a soft helmet.It seemed to help

alittle.. he wore

> it

> untill Jan. 2002 .At that time the Dr told me his skull was

closed and that

> his head went back in place enough. Well over the last few months

its

> started

> to go back very " lop-sided " again. when i went back to the dr

monday he

> said

> he wants a CT and then would decide what to do.I ask him to put

in back in

> helmet untill the CT was done but he refused. Anyway everything i

have read

> tells about the bands or hard helmets and im kind-of questioning

if my dr

> is

> or has done the right thing, I can't seem to find anything on the

> difference

> in hard helmets vs soft helmets. It's scary because now s to

old for a

> hard helmet from what ive heard and read. So im wondering

(worring) what

> can be done now if anything besides surgery? If any one has any

thought or

> suggestions i would greatly appriciate them.?

>

> Thanks,

>

> P.S. sorry it was so long.

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Debbie,

Hi, ty for responding, yes has had several 3d CT's done in the past.

The last one was in December and the Dr said that 's head had closed and

that the plagio was as good as it was gonna get and he would just watch to

make sure there was no pressure or swelling.He says he thinks the Brain has

stopped growing on the left side and is pretruding to the right causing it to

go out futher.Caused by the plagio..... im not real sure what hes looking for

im assuming hes looking at the brain.yes here is a pic of taken last

month!! it didnt look this bad after christmas. ty again Debbie.[unable to

display image]

i really apprcaite the advice.I have one more question if you dont mind.

AAron is seeing a Plastic/Reconstuctive surgeon. Alot of parents say they

take there kids to different kinds of DR . Should i find a different dr or is

that just preference?ty again.

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In a message dated 7/30/2002 10:51:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ytweety417@... writes:

He says he thinks the Brain has

stopped growing on the left side and is pretruding to the right causing it to

go out futher.Caused by the plagio..... im not real sure what hes looking for

im assuming hes looking at the brain

Hi ,

I hope that your Doctor has educated himself about plagio and not just giving you his "theory" on what is happening. It may very well look like the one side has stopped growing to some, because its flat, but if he understands plagio, he would know that it is only the shifting of the way that the skull grows that is causing this to take shape that way, because of perhaps constant backside pressure to the one area, causing its flatness. I only throw that out there because that would be very alarming to hear, and I have heard Docs through this Board say some crazy things without really doing their homework- I think I would want to be referred to a nuerologist to get a better answer than that and they could refer you to a specialist from that point if needed as well. Sorry I didn't get the pics either, could you repost? Have you checked out www.cranialtech.com to see before and after pics of headshots? Do you think they look like ? I wouldn't say he's wrong, I'm certainly not the expert trying to play Doctor, there could be an issue with brain growth, but make sure he's really explained himself as to why he feels the brain has stopped growing, and I would ask plagio related questions to quiz him on his knowledge as a whole about plagio. Good luck and please do keep us posted! We are here for you 100% and are concerned about your little one as you are.

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Debbie,

yw, No the dr has never metioned any other condition he thought could

be causing this, he insist that it is plagio up untill this last visit wheen

hew metioned the brain wasn't growing . has never seen a ped. neuro or

craniofacial specialist? but i think its tim to check into one. I'm sorry the

pic didnt go through. I tried again and it didn't through. I think i need to

att it instead of pulling it into email. i will try that.ty

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Hi, i resent the pic of AAron and it worked this time..This pic was taken

about 2 months ago .I agree with you, i really do hope he knows what he

talking about vs what " he thinks " . I tried to explain to the Dr that no

matter what the CT said last time the his head had not closed because it was

still shifting. He refuses to put the helmet back on him untill he does the

CT in the mean time his head appears to be geting worse .I did look at that

site ty but all the kids had on bands and i couldn't really see there heads.

im going to take a pic of his head and send it.

My husband and i were talking about if the Brain wasn't growing and i would

think we would be seeing some kind of effect from that. is dev delayed

in a few areas but he has been since he was 6 months old. this was due to his

lack of being able to breath( he only has one lung). The only resent problem

we have had is his eye sight but that was the first time he had seen a eye dr

so that problem could have been there before.we are very much considering

taking him to a different Dr. We go back on Tuesday for the head CT and I

will quiz him and let you guys know what happens.Thank you very much for your

concern and you suggestions.

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Awww- has such a sweet face!!! He's a doll- love those eyes! I can

see some mishapen areas of the head, and although I haven't seen the back, it

does look a little like some plagio kids in that the head shifts to one side.

I would definetly take him to another Doc if you feel this one is out of his

mind! Besides, it never hurts to get a second opinion. Your probably taking

into CT today- so let us know what happended at your appt. He looks

like one healthy, fun loving kid to be dealing with some of the conditions

you mentioned- give him a big ole squeeze from us! Good luck to you with

figuring this all out- you are great parents to continue to seek out the best

medical care for your son! Keep us posted!

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