Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Hayden went to CT for the first time. He screamed when they took measurments- most of it because he is cutting a new tooth and feels bad. They were very nice, and overall it was a good experience. I watched them take his mesaurements (well I held him still) and I saw how they did it- nose-ear etc. But they didn't explain the measurements- when I looked at the paper when I got home I didn't understand the abbreviations- can anyone help me make sense out of these abbreviation and measurments eu-eu 131 g-op 142 fz r-eu l 147 fz l-eu r 128 sn-t r 73 sn-t l 80 What does this mean in terms of severity- or how it compares in numbers to any of your children's measurments before the band? Thanks Marilyn- Haydens mommy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Marilyn: I'm sorry, I can't help you with the abbreviations or numbers. Abby never had any measurements taken of her head, but I'm sure another member will know what your information means. I'm glad the appt went well...sorry to hear of Hayden's tooth causing fussiness :-(. No fun. Will he be getting the DOCband then? If so, have you scheduled the casting? Debbie Abby's mom dOCGrad MI --- In Plagiocephaly@y..., " haydensmom122101 " <marilynheston@a...> wrote: > Hayden went to CT for the first time. He screamed when they took > measurments- most of it because he is cutting a new tooth and feels > bad. They were very nice, and overall it was a good experience. I > watched them take his mesaurements (well I held him still) and I saw > how they did it- nose-ear etc. But they didn't explain the > measurements- when I looked at the paper when I got home I didn't > understand the abbreviations- can anyone help me make sense out of > these abbreviation and measurments > eu-eu 131 > g-op 142 > fz r-eu l 147 > fz l-eu r 128 > sn-t r 73 > sn-t l 80 > > What does this mean in terms of severity- or how it compares in > numbers to any of your children's measurments before the band? > Thanks > Marilyn- Haydens mommy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Marilyn - The measurements on plagiocephaly.org show what is being measured for each category. Now, I am looking at Dane's papers. I am probably going to get myself in trouble here, but from what I can tell is that the cranial vault asymmetry is (fz r-eu l minus fz l-eu r) is 19mm and the skull base asymmetry (sn-tr minus sn-tl) is 7mm. and facial asymmetry is 9 mm. You should call CT tomorrow and ask them what his asymmetries are. I am no expert. Just trying to help you since it is after hours. I just looked at Dane's anthropometric data sheet to see what was what. Dane started out with 14mm of cva, 8mm of facial asymmetry and 4mm of skull base asymmetry (or whatever that one is called!). The good news is that everything pretty much measures average or better now! So treatment works - and it works darn well! Dane screamed his head off each time he was measured. He screamed more for the measurements than he did for the casting or physical therapy. I never could understand why. Fortunately he was only measured a total of 3 times from the evaluation to the exit. Dane's mom DOC Grad --- In Plagiocephaly@y..., " haydensmom122101 " <marilynheston@a...> wrote: > Hayden went to CT for the first time. He screamed when they took > measurments- most of it because he is cutting a new tooth and feels > bad. They were very nice, and overall it was a good experience. I > watched them take his mesaurements (well I held him still) and I saw > how they did it- nose-ear etc. But they didn't explain the > measurements- when I looked at the paper when I got home I didn't > understand the abbreviations- can anyone help me make sense out of > these abbreviation and measurments > eu-eu 131 > g-op 142 > fz r-eu l 147 > fz l-eu r 128 > sn-t r 73 > sn-t l 80 > > What does this mean in terms of severity- or how it compares in > numbers to any of your children's measurments before the band? > Thanks > Marilyn- Haydens mommy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Check http://www.bioanth.org/biomed/anthropometry.htm for info about cranial-facial measurments. The first two measurments are head diameters. (eu-eu 131) = 131 mm head width (g-op 142) = 142 mm head length The next two are used to determine cranial vault asymetry. fz(147 - 128) = 19mm CVA asymmetry The last two are used to determine cranial base asymetry (i.e. ear asymetry). sn(80-73) = 7mm SBA asymetry I would say the CVA of 19mm puts the plagio towards the severe category, the SBA of 7mm being closer to moderate. Did the dr diagnose Hayden with moderate to severe plagio? (BTW, my daughter was diagnosed moderate plagio and her measurments were CVA 11mm & SBA 6mm pre-band. She was banded at 9 months so we only got that down to CVA 7mm & SBA 4mm on the first band. She'll be getting her second band next week.) - Haydens measurements > > eu-eu 131 > g-op 142 > fz r-eu l 147 > fz l-eu r 128 > sn-t r 73 > sn-t l 80 > > What does this mean in terms of severity- or how it compares in > numbers to any of your children's measurments before the band? > Thanks > Marilyn- Haydens mommy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2002 Report Share Posted August 7, 2002 In a message dated 8/5/2002 7:40:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, marilynheston@... writes: What does this mean in terms of severity- or how it compares in numbers to any of your children's measurments before the band? Marilyn- I'm sure you have already gotten some great advice and input from alot of members on their experience with measurements, we went to CT also and was never actually measured as I recall. In a way, I'm kind of glad that we didn't because the numbers game can really drive you crazy in my opinion- if you can eyeball it and it looks good- it is! I know that the numbers can also show progress, so its a good thing as well when in doubt. Good luck! ' Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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