Re: Coffee reduces risk of type 2 diabetes

[Guest guest]

--- stardora@... wrote:

> Coffee reduces risk of type 2 diabetes

> November 1, 2006 09:31:33 AM PST

>

>

http://health./news/168374;_ylt=AtUgbux7CTsExAmTSrOMd72mxbAB

Pretty much old news... with the usual warnings about

caffiene, higher homocysteine, toxins, etc. absent.

Gaston

[Guest guest]

You have to question where they got enough non-coffee drinkers to make

this study and also what the others were drinking as a substitute, if

anything.

One of the things that always concerns me when I read studies involving

alcohol and coffee ... and on the other extreme, marijuana and

politically incorrect drugs ... is the bias that could creep in from

what the researchers want to find. We all know that studies are subject

to interpretation, no matter how carefully controlled.

60% is a very significant number. I would suspect that more such

studies will be forthcoming to verify the results. Coffee companies

will be very interested in seeing them. This is great news as they lose

market share to green tea.

Finally, will supplement companies be selling coffee extract now...

i.e., green tea?

stardora@... wrote:

> Coffee reduces risk of type 2 diabetes

> November 1, 2006 09:31:33 AM PST

>

> http://health./news/168374;_ylt=AtUgbux7CTsExAmTSrOMd72mxbAB

> <http://health./news/168374;_ylt=AtUgbux7CTsExAmTSrOMd72mxbAB>

>

> Coffee drinkers have a substantially lower risk of developing type 2

> diabetes than people who abstain from the beverage, a new study shows.

>

> This " striking " protective effect was seen in former coffee drinkers

> as well, Besa and co-investigators at the University of

> California San Diego in La Jolla report.

>

> " The growing body of literature definitely suggests strongly...that

> there is something there, " she told Reuters Health in an interview.

> Just what that something is isn't clear, but it's probably not

> caffeine, she said, because the effect has also been observed with

> decaffeinated coffee.

>

> and her colleagues investigated 910 men and women, all of whom

> were 50 or older and free of diabetes when the study began.

>

> When the subjects were followed-up about 8 years later, the former and

> current coffee drinkers were about 60 percent less likely to have

> developed type 2 diabetes.

>

> The protective effects were still seen after the researchers adjusted

> the data for variations in physical activity, weight, blood pressure,

> smoking and sex among the subjects.

>

> Coffee's protective effect was seen even among people who had impaired

> glucose tolerance, an early warning sign of diabetes, at the beginning

> of the study.

>

> The researchers were unable to determine how much coffee people needed

> to drink to produce the protective effect. But study participants were

> generally not heavy coffee drinkers, said.

>

> " Given the increasing prevalence of obesity, impaired glucose

> tolerance, and diabetes, and the fact that the majority of adults in

> most of the Westernized world drink coffee daily, a coffee benefit

> could have widespread impact, " she and her colleagues conclude.

> " Further investigation is warranted. "

>

> SOURCE: Diabetes Care, November 2006.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi:

There have been other studies regarding coffee and diabetes. Just be

sure to take your B12 (methyl cobalamine form is best - helps

mitochondria), folic acid and TMG to keep homocysteine down, if you

drink much coffee. Homocysteine and diabetes (glycosylation), not

cholesterol, are the main causes of atherosclerosis. Cholesterol

just helps it along, but only when other forces are present.

Other things that prevent T2D are ginseng berry, Gymnema Sylvestre,

Cinnulin and various cinnamon extracts, bitter melon, mulberry, green

tea, black tea. My experience is that the first two are best but

ginseng berry is sometimes too stimulating for people. Gymnema has

no side effects or aftertaste that I can perceive and it really works

better than coffee. Of course the tea people don't need to

worry. http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2210/4/18

At 11:14 AM 11/1/2006, you wrote:

>You have to question where they got enough non-coffee drinkers to make

>this study and also what the others were drinking as a substitute, if

>anything.

>

>One of the things that always concerns me when I read studies involving

>alcohol and coffee ... and on the other extreme, marijuana and

>politically incorrect drugs ... is the bias that could creep in from

>what the researchers want to find. We all know that studies are subject

>to interpretation, no matter how carefully controlled.

>

>60% is a very significant number. I would suspect that more such

>studies will be forthcoming to verify the results. Coffee companies

>will be very interested in seeing them. This is great news as they lose

>market share to green tea.

>

>Finally, will supplement companies be selling coffee extract now...

>i.e., green tea?

>

><mailto:stardora%40bellsouth.net>stardora@... wrote:

>

> > Coffee reduces risk of type 2 diabetes

> > November 1, 2006 09:31:33 AM PST

> >

> >

>

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alth./news/168374;_ylt=AtUgbux7CTsExAmTSrOMd72mxbAB

>

> > <http://health./news/168374;_ylt=AtUgbux7CTsExAmTSrOMd72mxbAB>

> >

> > Coffee drinkers have a substantially lower risk of developing type 2

> > diabetes than people who abstain from the beverage, a new study shows.

> >

> > This " striking " protective effect was seen in former coffee drinkers

> > as well, Besa and co-investigators at the University of

> > California San Diego in La Jolla report.

> >

> > " The growing body of literature definitely suggests strongly...that

> > there is something there, " she told Reuters Health in an interview.

> > Just what that something is isn't clear, but it's probably not

> > caffeine, she said, because the effect has also been observed with

> > decaffeinated coffee.

> >

> > and her colleagues investigated 910 men and women, all of whom

> > were 50 or older and free of diabetes when the study began.

> >

> > When the subjects were followed-up about 8 years later, the former and

> > current coffee drinkers were about 60 percent less likely to have

> > developed type 2 diabetes.

> >

> > The protective effects were still seen after the researchers adjusted

> > the data for variations in physical activity, weight, blood pressure,

> > smoking and sex among the subjects.

> >

> > Coffee's protective effect was seen even among people who had impaired

> > glucose tolerance, an early warning sign of diabetes, at the beginning

> > of the study.

> >

> > The researchers were unable to determine how much coffee people needed

> > to drink to produce the protective effect. But study participants were

> > generally not heavy coffee drinkers, said.

> >

> > " Given the increasing prevalence of obesity, impaired glucose

> > tolerance, and diabetes, and the fact that the majority of adults in

> > most of the Westernized world drink coffee daily, a coffee benefit

> > could have widespread impact, " she and her colleagues conclude.

> > " Further investigation is warranted. "

> >

> > SOURCE: Diabetes Care, November 2006.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi : I have been thinking of you of late... how is the

neck/finger this going since you dropped the MSM regimen? I have

gotten the beginnings of tennis elbow of late & Cats Claw seems to be

helping. I have played through it in the past, despite my doctor

telling me to stop for six months... which is not an option.

Regards, Jim

Brown wrote:

> Hi:

>

> There have been other studies regarding coffee and diabetes. Just be

> sure to take your B12 (methyl cobalamine form is best - helps

> mitochondria), folic acid and TMG to keep homocysteine down, if you

> drink much coffee. Homocysteine and diabetes (glycosylation), not

> cholesterol, are the main causes of atherosclerosis. Cholesterol

> just helps it along, but only when other forces are present.

>

> Other things that prevent T2D are ginseng berry, Gymnema Sylvestre,

> Cinnulin and various cinnamon extracts, bitter melon, mulberry, green

> tea, black tea. My experience is that the first two are best but

> ginseng berry is sometimes too stimulating for people. Gymnema has

> no side effects or aftertaste that I can perceive and it really works

> better than coffee. Of course the tea people don't need to

> worry. http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2210/4/18

> <http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2210/4/18>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi:

I still have the neck/finger numb issue continuing. I am fairly

certain now that it is a mechanical, not a toxic problem, as either

could have been a possibility.

I had tennis elbow - it wasn't going away and one doc said it would

take two years to heal. I got it when I was off testosterone to

determine my baseline. I started back on testosterone and it went

away very promptly. I take Cat's Claw too, mainly for its DNA protection.

At 07:46 PM 11/2/2006, you wrote:

>Hi : I have been thinking of you of late... how is the

>neck/finger this going since you dropped the MSM regimen? I have

>gotten the beginnings of tennis elbow of late & Cats Claw seems to be

>helping. I have played through it in the past, despite my doctor

>telling me to stop for six months... which is not an option.

>Regards, Jim

>

> Brown wrote:

>

> > Hi:

> >

> > There have been other studies regarding coffee and diabetes. Just be

> > sure to take your B12 (methyl cobalamine form is best - helps

> > mitochondria), folic acid and TMG to keep homocysteine down, if you

> > drink much coffee. Homocysteine and diabetes (glycosylation), not

> > cholesterol, are the main causes of atherosclerosis. Cholesterol

> > just helps it along, but only when other forces are present.

> >

> > Other things that prevent T2D are ginseng berry, Gymnema Sylvestre,

> > Cinnulin and various cinnamon extracts, bitter melon, mulberry, green

> > tea, black tea. My experience is that the first two are best but

> > ginseng berry is sometimes too stimulating for people. Gymnema has

> > no side effects or aftertaste that I can perceive and it really works

> > better than coffee. Of course the tea people don't need to

> > worry.

>

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