Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Hi medmidas. I googled this. The symptoms I read indicate about licking lips & a bunch of other stuff that doesn't seem to be me. I don't lick lips & I don't have any notable issues with dry mouth or thirst. I can't find anything about being able to induce the cracking with magnesium or or correcting it with calcium. My lip peeling does not happen at all unless I do specific things to induce it. I realize this is so very weird & unusual. It took quite a long time & experimenting to figure it out the trigger & how to stop it & eliminate it. It all started with supplementation as an effort to help my osteopenic bones. Amy medmidas wrote: > > Lip cracking in the centre is a classic symptom of Pulsatilla in Homeo. > =================================== > > Jim wrote: > > Hi Amy: > > > > Wow... what a sensitive one you are! That lip reaction is very > > interesting. One thing for sure is that you are paying attention and > > that is key. It sounds like you are absorbing your magnesium just > > fine. Do you ever get a diarrhea reaction from too much oral > > magnesium? I literally can't take any oral form of magnesium, even > > chelated in small quantities, so the transdermal works great for me. > > Also, I like the feel of the magnesium gel after a shower as long as I > > do not apply too much. > > > > Regards, Jim > > > > Apricot85 wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, Jim. I should have said that I get a reaction from an *imbalance* > >> between calcium & magnesium. This doesn't necessarily negate your > >> point. But I thought I should clarify. > >> > >> If I take magnesium without calcium (or not in proportion to > calcium), I > >> my lower lip cracks & peels in the center. This occurs pretty fast - > >> within 15 minutes. When this happens, I can FIX it by taking a bit of > >> calcium. The healing begins within 15 minutes! It's quite fast. It's > >> very weird. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 When I first saw the dr. 8 or more years ago for stomach issues, it was found I did not have an ulcer but I was given prescription strength Tagament (sp?). It made my digestion basically stop. I stopped taking it and visited Whole Foods where the recommended ginger, warm water, and one other herb or root I don't remember but these things all worked very well and I was back to " regular " soon. > Life long, I've been very sluggish. I find that cooked beans with > cabbage helps the most of all veggies & fruits, and occasional > probiotics seem encouraging. Thyroid meds are purported to increase > bowel movement, but it seems like my bowels just acclimated. If I do > everything 'right' will be a once-a-day girl. ;-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I thought magnesium chloride was the one for absorption. Magnesium oxide is pretty tightly bound. In a study that compared four forms of magnesium preparations, results suggested lower bioavailability of magnesium oxide http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/magnesium.asp Kirk Apricot85 <apricot85@...> wrote: I don't get a diarrhea action at all, BUT I don't think I'm normal. I do know plenty of people who have that reaction to magnesium in any form. I assume that such a reaction is somewhat normal. Life long, I've been very sluggish. I find that cooked beans with cabbage helps the most of all veggies & fruits, and occasional probiotics seem encouraging. Thyroid meds are purported to increase bowel movement, but it seems like my bowels just acclimated. If I do everything 'right' will be a once-a-day girl. ;-) Also, if I eat too little food, and if 'action' shuts down for too long, I then can take a bunch of magnesium oxide (2-3G), which blows everything through the next day. But mag oxide does not do for me what mag citrate does on that lip thing. I don't feel any reaction to mag oxide at all until the next day :-) I do know others who say that mag oxide cleans out whereas mag citrate does not. YMMV. Some of the online references I've read say that mag oxide is for absorption and mag citrate is for cleaning out. My experience is opposite, so I don't know what to say about that. I took a bath with baking soda and epsom salt the other night - I assume half hour is enough time. I didn't notice anything from that. Amy Jim wrote: > > Hi Amy: > > Wow... what a sensitive one you are! That lip reaction is very > interesting. One thing for sure is that you are paying attention and > that is key. It sounds like you are absorbing your magnesium just > fine. Do you ever get a diarrhea reaction from too much oral > magnesium? I literally can't take any oral form of magnesium, even > chelated in small quantities, so the transdermal works great for me. > Also, I like the feel of the magnesium gel after a shower as long as I > do not apply too much. > > Regards, Jim > > Apricot85 wrote: > > > Hi, Jim. I should have said that I get a reaction from an *imbalance* > > between calcium & magnesium. This doesn't necessarily negate your > > point. But I thought I should clarify. > > > > If I take magnesium without calcium (or not in proportion to calcium), I > > my lower lip cracks & peels in the center. This occurs pretty fast - > > within 15 minutes. When this happens, I can FIX it by taking a bit of > > calcium. The healing begins within 15 minutes! It's quite fast. It's > > very weird. > > > > If I take calcium without magnesium (or not in proportion to calcium), > > my upper lip cracks... not like the lower does though. But if take some > > more magnesium, the lip corrects itself. Calcium without magnesium will > > also give me the foot cramps, & these go away shortly after taking > > magnesium. > > > > If I take close to the 2:1 ratio of cal to mag, I don't have any lip, or > > cramping issues. If I avoid both calcium & magnesium, my lower lip > > doesn't do the peeling act. It gets dry after a while... but not the > > same. However, when I don't take anything, my sleep changes & I don't > > sleep for very long. > > > > I've heard a lot that people react to calcium with the foot or calf > > cramping. I don't know anyone who has any negative reaction to > > magnesium w/out cal. I know cal & mag share right-left receptors. I > > don't know if that is what the issue is. I agree with your about the > > veggies & also the veggies help the pH. > > > > Jim wrote: > > > > > > Hi Amy: > > > > > > You say that you get bad reactions from taking magnesium... don't we > > > all? I assume that you mean orally? > > > > > > My opinion is that you should be eating plenty of green foods like > > > spinach which supply a balanced intake of minerals that the body > > > understands. Magnesium supplementation transdermally also allows for > > > natural adjustments where the metallic compounds do not. > > > > > > Regards, Jim > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Huge Smile, Amy. That was a good one [] I am finding some good info on Dr. Young's site. I kind of don't think things have to be as complex as he is making them but he has good info. He concurs with the Italian Dr. that all cancer is over acidity and has some good references for his info dating back a good amount of time. He also explains that some foods, like lemon, seem acidic but really have an overall alkalizing effect. He also sells a water faucet filter that ups pH and filters out some bad stuff. As he recommends drinking water with a 7.5 pH, I have been adding a few sprinkles of baking soda my water. I can tell it needs it with my pH strips. Even if I add a few drops of apple juice for taste, it overall ups the pH. Here is his site, landing on the articles page. I find I can not read them using Firefox, but that they work with Explorer. <http://www.phmiracleliving.com/search/index.php?category=Articles> http://www.phmiracleliving.com/search/index.php?category=Articles <http://www.phmiracleliving.com/search/index.php?category=Articles> <http://www.phmiracleliving.com/search/index.php?category=Articles> Also I got some sodium bicarbonate tablets I had ordered online. I see they are actually meant to be dissolved in water but I wanted to pop them as I am a little sick of the taste. So I am doing that and just making sure to drink plenty of water. Anyhoo I find it interesting that the maximum dosage on these 650mg tablets is. . .. 24 tablets a day(!) Here also is Wikipedia on pH, including a color scale on the right of lots of common pH readings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH_balance <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH_balance> XO > > Thanks for the interesting update, Jess. The cholesterol change is > really remarkable. I wonder what your chiro puts on his lawn. lol. > Amy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Wow Kirk, Thanks for your valuable testimony and info! More specifically, did you order the inexpensive info on the site you gave and follow that to get your results? > > > > > > > > Ok Doc just called and says he found the results of everything > > normal. > > > > > > > > Then I ask about the bad cholesterol compared to last time it > was > > > read, > > > > and he says he thinks it is a lab anomaly as it dropped nearly > 100 > > > > points from 217 to 134. LOL > > > > > > > > I don't think it was a lab anomaly at all since my breathing > rate > > and > > > > heart rate are vastly improved now and things feel a lot better > and > > I > > > > surely passed something, whatever it was. > > > > > > > > Doc wants me to give specimens again at my convenience and is > > mailing > > > me > > > > a script for that. > > > > > > > > I had read the post about coronary calcification and was > thinking > > how > > > my > > > > pain has always been on my left side and left side only, and > asked > > him > > > > if we can check out my heart. (He wants to call my pain > > fibromyalgia > > > > but I don't really buy that as a diagnosis in general, and why > would > > > > this occur on only my left side.) > > > > > > > > He said sure that an EKG could be done when I go for the lab > work > > and > > > he > > > > will put that on the slip. > > > > > > > > In the mean time (and after reading the post about the brother > given > > > > baking soda to take 3 times a day) I decided to do 1-2 > teaspoons of > > > > baking soda in a small glass of apple juice 3 times a day, and > feel > > > that > > > > is better towards whatever remaining discomfort going on than no > > > baking > > > > soda. > > > > > > > > I will most likely keep that up and still stop the calcium > > supplements > > > > (thought I do get some dairy). Today is a bit overcast but I > will > > > keep > > > > getting some sun on the fire escape weather permitting. > > > > > > > > I will report on whatever else the dr. has to tell me. I'll > > probably > > > > try to go in next week for the repeat lab work and EKG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 I have a friend that is being treated for prostate cancer. I spoke to him about the Russian researcher that is studying the treatment of cancer via manipulating ph. I can not locate that article. Can someone repost the link? Thanks, > > > > > > > > Ok Doc just called and says he found the results of everything > > normal. > > > > > > > > Then I ask about the bad cholesterol compared to last time it > was > > > read, > > > > and he says he thinks it is a lab anomaly as it dropped nearly > 100 > > > > points from 217 to 134. LOL > > > > > > > > I don't think it was a lab anomaly at all since my breathing > rate > > and > > > > heart rate are vastly improved now and things feel a lot better > and > > I > > > > surely passed something, whatever it was. > > > > > > > > Doc wants me to give specimens again at my convenience and is > > mailing > > > me > > > > a script for that. > > > > > > > > I had read the post about coronary calcification and was > thinking > > how > > > my > > > > pain has always been on my left side and left side only, and > asked > > him > > > > if we can check out my heart. (He wants to call my pain > > fibromyalgia > > > > but I don't really buy that as a diagnosis in general, and why > would > > > > this occur on only my left side.) > > > > > > > > He said sure that an EKG could be done when I go for the lab > work > > and > > > he > > > > will put that on the slip. > > > > > > > > In the mean time (and after reading the post about the brother > given > > > > baking soda to take 3 times a day) I decided to do 1-2 > teaspoons of > > > > baking soda in a small glass of apple juice 3 times a day, and > feel > > > that > > > > is better towards whatever remaining discomfort going on than no > > > baking > > > > soda. > > > > > > > > I will most likely keep that up and still stop the calcium > > supplements > > > > (thought I do get some dairy). Today is a bit overcast but I > will > > > keep > > > > getting some sun on the fire escape weather permitting. > > > > > > > > I will report on whatever else the dr. has to tell me. I'll > > probably > > > > try to go in next week for the repeat lab work and EKG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 A friend of mine was given a year to live - that was a year and a half ago. His prostate cancer had moved into his spine. He is riding and ropeing and says it was many years ago he felt this well. He too did 6 weeks of CsCl. Doctors find no sign of the cancer. I dont remember if I posted this URL here before http://www.rexresearch.com/beckett/1beckett.htm Kirk twin_flyer <rbordeaux@...> wrote: I have a friend that is being treated for prostate cancer. I spoke to him about the Russian researcher that is studying the treatment of cancer via manipulating ph. I can not locate that article. Can someone repost the link? Thanks, > > > > > > > > Ok Doc just called and says he found the results of everything > > normal. > > > > > > > > Then I ask about the bad cholesterol compared to last time it > was > > > read, > > > > and he says he thinks it is a lab anomaly as it dropped nearly > 100 > > > > points from 217 to 134. LOL > > > > > > > > I don't think it was a lab anomaly at all since my breathing > rate > > and > > > > heart rate are vastly improved now and things feel a lot better > and > > I > > > > surely passed something, whatever it was. > > > > > > > > Doc wants me to give specimens again at my convenience and is > > mailing > > > me > > > > a script for that. > > > > > > > > I had read the post about coronary calcification and was > thinking > > how > > > my > > > > pain has always been on my left side and left side only, and > asked > > him > > > > if we can check out my heart. (He wants to call my pain > > fibromyalgia > > > > but I don't really buy that as a diagnosis in general, and why > would > > > > this occur on only my left side.) > > > > > > > > He said sure that an EKG could be done when I go for the lab > work > > and > > > he > > > > will put that on the slip. > > > > > > > > In the mean time (and after reading the post about the brother > given > > > > baking soda to take 3 times a day) I decided to do 1-2 > teaspoons of > > > > baking soda in a small glass of apple juice 3 times a day, and > feel > > > that > > > > is better towards whatever remaining discomfort going on than no > > > baking > > > > soda. > > > > > > > > I will most likely keep that up and still stop the calcium > > supplements > > > > (thought I do get some dairy). Today is a bit overcast but I > will > > > keep > > > > getting some sun on the fire escape weather permitting. > > > > > > > > I will report on whatever else the dr. has to tell me. I'll > > probably > > > > try to go in next week for the repeat lab work and EKG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 More evidence that acidity is the culprit. Did your friend take the cesium chloride under a doctor's care? It sounds like potent stuff. > > > > > > This may be a duplication, can't remember if I sent this info or > > not. . > > > . > > > > > > Here are some youtubes I made about Ph and one more I found after > I > > made > > > mine which is in agreement. Also another source I found said fat > > is our > > > bodies' way of protecting us from acid. > > > > > > > > > YouTube - Health and Ph Balance #1 > > > > > > > > > YouTube - Health and Ph Balance #2 > > > > > > > > > YouTube - An amazing health discovery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 cesium chloride is not in the Harvard data base A doctor practicing medicine not in the Harvard data base will find his insurance not in effect. It would take a very rare doctor to practice such medicine. Brewer was an MD that used cesium. An explanation of how it works http://www.mwt.net/~drbrewer/highpH.htm BTW rubidium works also Kirk <kekikamiller@...> wrote: More evidence that acidity is the culprit. Did your friend take the cesium chloride under a doctor's care? It sounds like potent stuff. > > > > > > This may be a duplication, can't remember if I sent this info or > > not. . > > > . > > > > > > Here are some youtubes I made about Ph and one more I found after > I > > made > > > mine which is in agreement. Also another source I found said fat > > is our > > > bodies' way of protecting us from acid. > > > > > > > > > YouTube - Health and Ph Balance #1 > > > > > > > > > YouTube - Health and Ph Balance #2 > > > > > > > > > YouTube - An amazing health discovery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Have you tried CsCl or do you use it only after you have cancer? Amy Kirk McLoren wrote: > > A friend of mine was given a year to live - that was a year and a half > ago. His prostate cancer had moved into his spine. He is riding and > ropeing and says it was many years ago he felt this well. He too did 6 > weeks of CsCl. Doctors find no sign of the cancer. > > I dont remember if I posted this URL here before > http://www.rexresearch.com/beckett/1beckett.htm > <http://www.rexresearch.com/beckett/1beckett.htm> > Kirk > > twin_flyer <rbordeaux@... > <mailto:rbordeaux%40cableresources.com>> wrote: > I have a friend that is being treated for prostate cancer. I spoke > to him about the Russian researcher that is studying the treatment of > cancer via manipulating ph. I can not locate that article. Can > someone repost the link? > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Doc just called and says he found the results of everything > > > normal. > > > > > > > > > > Then I ask about the bad cholesterol compared to last time it > > was > > > > read, > > > > > and he says he thinks it is a lab anomaly as it dropped > nearly > > 100 > > > > > points from 217 to 134. LOL > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it was a lab anomaly at all since my breathing > > rate > > > and > > > > > heart rate are vastly improved now and things feel a lot > better > > and > > > I > > > > > surely passed something, whatever it was. > > > > > > > > > > Doc wants me to give specimens again at my convenience and is > > > mailing > > > > me > > > > > a script for that. > > > > > > > > > > I had read the post about coronary calcification and was > > thinking > > > how > > > > my > > > > > pain has always been on my left side and left side only, and > > asked > > > him > > > > > if we can check out my heart. (He wants to call my pain > > > fibromyalgia > > > > > but I don't really buy that as a diagnosis in general, and > why > > would > > > > > this occur on only my left side.) > > > > > > > > > > He said sure that an EKG could be done when I go for the lab > > work > > > and > > > > he > > > > > will put that on the slip. > > > > > > > > > > In the mean time (and after reading the post about the > brother > > given > > > > > baking soda to take 3 times a day) I decided to do 1-2 > > teaspoons of > > > > > baking soda in a small glass of apple juice 3 times a day, > and > > feel > > > > that > > > > > is better towards whatever remaining discomfort going on than > no > > > > baking > > > > > soda. > > > > > > > > > > I will most likely keep that up and still stop the calcium > > > supplements > > > > > (thought I do get some dairy). Today is a bit overcast but I > > will > > > > keep > > > > > getting some sun on the fire escape weather permitting. > > > > > > > > > > I will report on whatever else the dr. has to tell me. I'll > > > probably > > > > > try to go in next week for the repeat lab work and EKG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 It could be used preventatively. Anecdotally the tribe that has it in their corn demonstrate the value of that. I used CsCl to cure my renal cancer. 3 grams a day with 1 gram per day of potassium chloride. The first 10 days I took 6 grams a daywith 2 grams KCl. Total of 6 weeks. The KCl is because the cesium causes you to spill it. Kirk Apricot85 <apricot85@...> wrote: Have you tried CsCl or do you use it only after you have cancer? Amy Kirk McLoren wrote: > > A friend of mine was given a year to live - that was a year and a half > ago. His prostate cancer had moved into his spine. He is riding and > ropeing and says it was many years ago he felt this well. He too did 6 > weeks of CsCl. Doctors find no sign of the cancer. > > I dont remember if I posted this URL here before > http://www.rexresearch.com/beckett/1beckett.htm > > Kirk > > twin_flyer > > wrote: > I have a friend that is being treated for prostate cancer. I spoke > to him about the Russian researcher that is studying the treatment of > cancer via manipulating ph. I can not locate that article. Can > someone repost the link? > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Doc just called and says he found the results of everything > > > normal. > > > > > > > > > > Then I ask about the bad cholesterol compared to last time it > > was > > > > read, > > > > > and he says he thinks it is a lab anomaly as it dropped > nearly > > 100 > > > > > points from 217 to 134. LOL > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it was a lab anomaly at all since my breathing > > rate > > > and > > > > > heart rate are vastly improved now and things feel a lot > better > > and > > > I > > > > > surely passed something, whatever it was. > > > > > > > > > > Doc wants me to give specimens again at my convenience and is > > > mailing > > > > me > > > > > a script for that. > > > > > > > > > > I had read the post about coronary calcification and was > > thinking > > > how > > > > my > > > > > pain has always been on my left side and left side only, and > > asked > > > him > > > > > if we can check out my heart. (He wants to call my pain > > > fibromyalgia > > > > > but I don't really buy that as a diagnosis in general, and > why > > would > > > > > this occur on only my left side.) > > > > > > > > > > He said sure that an EKG could be done when I go for the lab > > work > > > and > > > > he > > > > > will put that on the slip. > > > > > > > > > > In the mean time (and after reading the post about the > brother > > given > > > > > baking soda to take 3 times a day) I decided to do 1-2 > > teaspoons of > > > > > baking soda in a small glass of apple juice 3 times a day, > and > > feel > > > > that > > > > > is better towards whatever remaining discomfort going on than > no > > > > baking > > > > > soda. > > > > > > > > > > I will most likely keep that up and still stop the calcium > > > supplements > > > > > (thought I do get some dairy). Today is a bit overcast but I > > will > > > > keep > > > > > getting some sun on the fire escape weather permitting. > > > > > > > > > > I will report on whatever else the dr. has to tell me. I'll > > > probably > > > > > try to go in next week for the repeat lab work and EKG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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