Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Thank you. I notice an improvement in my short-term recall ability when I take the B vitamin Choline. Pamela From: Pamela Milonas <pammilonas@...> Subject: Cognitex and Cyprenyl Longevity Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 9:26 PM Cognitex is a supplement from LEF (Life Extension Foundation) designed to preserve brain function. You can find information about the product at LEF.org. Cyrpenil is a liquid form of deprenyl, which makes it easier to titrate. International Anti-Aging Systems posts " Deprenyl reduces the age-related decline of dopamine, increasing its availability to preserve youthful brain activity. " You can read more about it on their site. I am attempting to put together a personal brain health program. Am limited by what I don't know and appreciate guidance from other group members. ------------------------------------ Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Pamela Milonas wrote: > > > Cognitex is a supplement from LEF (Life Extension Foundation) designed > to preserve brain function. You can find information about the product > at LEF.org. Cyrpenil is a liquid form of deprenyl, which makes it easier > to titrate. International Anti-Aging Systems posts " Deprenyl reduces the > age-related decline of dopamine, increasing its availability to preserve > youthful brain activity. " You can read more about it on their site. > > I am attempting to put together a personal brain health program. Am > limited by what I don't know and appreciate guidance from other group > members. I take both products (2/3s of the Cognitex recommended and 5 mg of Deprenyl 3 times a week) in addition to 2.25 mg hydergine a day. I had a heart attack 4 years ago and was taking hydergine at the time and ended up with no heart damage - I think the hydergine played a role in preventing any. However, I HIGHLY recommend the book: " Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain " by J. Ratey (Author), Hagerman (Contributor). You can peruse the reviews on amazon.com. http://www.amazon.com/Spark-Revolutionary-Science-Exercise-Brain/dp/0316113506/r\ ef=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1223441643 & sr=8-1 I don't think any brain health program can ever be complete or even substantially effective without regular exercise. This book was an eye opener and provided the motivation I needed to get off my *** several times a week and work up a sweat. I've read a lot of material on smart drugs over the years, reviewed every web site with any substance, kept an eye on the rec.drugs.smart (still do) when it was quite active and was active in the smart drug group that existed, and still might exist. This book added a whole new dimension to brain health that was never raised in all that time. Exercise along with a good solid paleo diet I think are the foundation of good health, brain especially. Other options: Fish oil (DHA/EPA) CoQ10 Eliminate wheat/sugar Drugs like Piracetam and their many variants. Come to think of it, two of the variants (Aniracetam, Pramiracetam) had noticeable effects but I was never consistent with any of them. L-Theanine is something to look at which doesn't come up as a smart drug on the web sites below, but LEF has some articles on it. Optimize thyroid and adrenals for higher energy levels, brain inclusive Web sites to look at: http://www.erowid.org/smarts/ http://www.smart-drugs.com http://www.antiaging-systems.com/ Other book recommendations: Smart Drugs II (older - 1993) http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Drugs-II-Drug-V/dp/0962741876/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF\ 8 & s=books & qid=1223443213 & sr=8-1 -- Steve - dudescholar4@... Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still march on. " --Stopford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I used to play with deprenyl & some other noortropics. These days, I periodically use phosphatidyl choline & sometimes DMAE. Originally deprenyl would really boost my mood... esp on an empty stomach. I don't get those boosts any more. ARC wrote: > > Thank you. I notice an improvement in my short-term recall ability > when I take the B vitamin Choline. > > Pamela > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I dont think one should just concentrate on brain chemicals as overall health affects the brain greatly. For example you might not think of DHEA as part of a brain regimen. It does make a difference though. Dont forget the miracle drug called exercise. Kirk ARC <southallp@...> wrote: Thank you. I notice an improvement in my short-term recall ability when I take the B vitamin Choline. Pamela From: Pamela Milonas Subject: Cognitex and Cyprenyl Longevity Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 9:26 PM Cognitex is a supplement from LEF (Life Extension Foundation) designed to preserve brain function. You can find information about the product at LEF.org. Cyrpenil is a liquid form of deprenyl, which makes it easier to titrate. International Anti-Aging Systems posts " Deprenyl reduces the age-related decline of dopamine, increasing its availability to preserve youthful brain activity. " You can read more about it on their site. I am attempting to put together a personal brain health program. Am limited by what I don't know and appreciate guidance from other group members. ------------------------------------ Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I think you're wrong there. I think it's as important as overall bodily health and exercise, but there is much more you can do. DHEA is not that relevant here, but only a small part of a large puzzle. I agree with the Cognitex and Cyrpenil regime as a minimum for anyone serious about longevity and extending quality and quantity of life. I would also throw melatonin into the mix, as it really does stop the brain 'rusting at night. Deprenyl supplementation is vital IMO as you get older, and you should start as early as possible (from the age of 30 onwards) - it's never too late to start. A decline in dopamine levels in the brain is one of the causes of noticeable 'aging'. Make sure you get your choline either from CDP Choline or Alpha GPC as there are plenty of studies showing that they are effective in increasing acetyl choline levels in the brain. Soy Lecithin + b5 is another (but inferior) way to do it, but obviously the concerns about soy might influence your decision there. Avoid all other choline sources such as Choline Bitartrate etc, as the bioavailability is shockingly low, and it's questionable about whether the acetyl choline passes the blood brain barrier. From: Kirk McLoren Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:15 PM Longevity Subject: Re: Cognitex and Cyprenyl I dont think one should just concentrate on brain chemicals as overall health affects the brain greatly. For example you might not think of DHEA as part of a brain regimen. It does make a difference though. Dont forget the miracle drug called exercise. Kirk ARC <southallp@...> wrote: Thank you. I notice an improvement in my short-term recall ability when I take the B vitamin Choline. Pamela From: Pamela Milonas Subject: Cognitex and Cyprenyl Longevity Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 9:26 PM Cognitex is a supplement from LEF (Life Extension Foundation) designed to preserve brain function. You can find information about the product at LEF.org. Cyrpenil is a liquid form of deprenyl, which makes it easier to titrate. International Anti-Aging Systems posts " Deprenyl reduces the age-related decline of dopamine, increasing its availability to preserve youthful brain activity. " You can read more about it on their site. I am attempting to put together a personal brain health program. Am limited by what I don't know and appreciate guidance from other group members. ------------------------------------ Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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