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Hi, Matt,

I've had that happen once or twice also. What equipment are

you using? I usually watch the numbers and visual breakdown of the

spectrum on Instruments 1 while I'm recording an assessment. I can

tell right away if one side is much more active than the other and I

know that I need to check the hook-up on both sides. There may be

more impedance on one side than the other. I have Active EEGs now,

so it's not as important, but when I was using a Braintrainer, if

one site wasn't clean enough or I hadn't got a mostly hair-free

spot, it would be much lower than the other side. Hope that helps.

Merrie Elisens

Oklahoma

>

> I recentlhy did a TLC and questioned the results, especially

as

> several of the sites had distinctly higher amplitudes in all

> frequency ranges on the electrode on the right. I redid it and

the

> results corrected to some degree but not at the temporal sites.

I've

> seen this pattern before.

> My question is could there be any problems with the

underlying

> calculation algorithms in the TLC, particularly at the temporal

site

> calculations?

> If Pete or others are convinced that they are correct, is

there any

> way to do a quick visual check on the data as it is being recorded

so

> that one can check that against what is the TLC report produces?

> -Matt

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Matt,

The data is simply copied into the file from whatever output it into the Excel

text file. It is placed on the Raw page (which is a hidden page you can open by

going to Format: Sheet: Unhide). There is no algorithm that moves the data.

Simple formulas go to the Raw or the Amplitude page and move the data from one

cell to another. Possible, I suppose, that you have a corrupted formula on one

of your pages. If you download the latest versions of everything and install

them, that should fix that.

If you are seeing some people who have this problem and others who do not, it's

unlikely it's a problem in the assessment. Could be an offset problem between

electrodes (though that should show up in all sites on one side) or a connection

problem. OR...it could be that, as often happens, the temporal lobes are quite

different, since they are the furthest apart sites we check among the homologous

sites, they have quite different functions and they are very susceptible to

injuries.

Pete

>

> From: " Matt Fleischman " <matt541@...>

> Date: 2006/03/01 Wed AM 11:45:38 EST

> " Van Deusen " < >

> Subject: verifying TLC data

>

> I recentlhy did a TLC and questioned the results, especially as

several of the sites had distinctly higher amplitudes in all

frequency ranges on the electrode on the right. I redid it and the

results corrected to some degree but not at the temporal sites. I've

seen this pattern before.

My question is could there be any problems with the underlying

calculation algorithms in the TLC, particularly at the temporal site

calculations?

If Pete or others are convinced that they are correct, is there any

way to do a quick visual check on the data as it is being recorded so

that one can check that against what is the TLC report produces?

-Matt

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