Re: Drawbacks on alcohol tax

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zzspetals1 <zzspetals1@...> wrote: I am in the process of changing over

to an organic alcohol for my

perfumes, and have been getting a lot of mixed information on the

purchase of the alcohol, taxes, permits, etc....

Is anyone here getting a drawback on their tax paid on alcohols. If

so, how extensive is the process for submitting all of your formulas

for approval.

Also, if purchasing alcohol already taxed, are you doing so with or

without a permit.

One email that I received from Federal, says that I cannot get a tax

exemption, or drawback, without going through the process, submitting

all of my formulas for review, etc....

State says that it doesn't matter either way. Tax must be paid and

there is no refund policy if the product is made with drinkable

alcohol, regardless of the use.

When I originally checked into this a couple of years ago I spoke to

someone on the federal level that mentioned a specific form/permit.

but did not require submitting formulas. Now I can't find any of my

original notes.

I did a quick run through of the archived posts. A bit was discussed

about this, but I did not see where anyone was actually implementing

any of the procedures.

Thanks in Advance,

Zz..........

Zz's Petals, Parfume Moderne

http://www.zzspetals.com

Hi Zz

I don't think I can be of much help with this as I have taken on the Uk

side.... That was a long process. Initially I had a permit.... this was only

for denatured alcohol..... then took many years of looking into finding organic

vegetable alcohol. Visiting suppliers talking to them showing them what I was

doing .... then repeating the process after they had changed hands getting a

professor of botany ete etc...then a few years ago the Customs Excise started

back to query. Luckily I kept all telephone conversation notes, names etc,,,,

my particular reason etc....... at the end of it..... I pay full wack on

purchase and they are happy but I think if I was going to go into mass

production (which I am definately not into) then I think they may change

attitude........

good luck with it

janitahaan morris

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At 02:02 PM 10/2/2006, you wrote:

>I am in the process of changing over to an organic alcohol for my

>perfumes, and have been getting a lot of mixed information on the

>purchase of the alcohol, taxes, permits, etc....

>Is anyone here getting a drawback on their tax paid on alcohols. If

>so, how extensive is the process for submitting all of your formulas

>for approval.

>

>Also, if purchasing alcohol already taxed, are you doing so with or

>without a permit.

>One email that I received from Federal, says that I cannot get a tax

>exemption, or drawback, without going through the process, submitting

>all of my formulas for review, etc....

>State says that it doesn't matter either way. Tax must be paid and

>there is no refund policy if the product is made with drinkable

>alcohol, regardless of the use.

>When I originally checked into this a couple of years ago I spoke to

>someone on the federal level that mentioned a specific form/permit.

>but did not require submitting formulas. Now I can't find any of my

>original notes.

>

>I did a quick run through of the archived posts. A bit was discussed

>about this, but I did not see where anyone was actually implementing

>any of the procedures.

It's all rather confusing, especially since states have standards

that they admit are in conflict with Fed regs, and the states say

their laws trump the Fed laws. It's all a polticial football, and

it's up to the individual perfumer to hash it out.

I've never heard of the Feds, or anyone, except in Europe with the

Draconian EU regs, requiring the formulas.

Not giving legal advice here, but after reading all the confusing

posts here over the years, I'd say find a friendly local/state person

to work with and stick with them. That way, they will have to defend

their instructions to you to the Feds, if the Feds challenge it.

Also not sure what you mean about the drawback and refund policy,

Liz. Can you clarify?

Anya McCoy

Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com

Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org

Natural Perfumers Chat Group

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