Natural Perfumery: tincture of P. tobira

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--- Darlene <c_ing_i2i@...> wrote:

.. I

> was also thinking of trying a maceration of a

> butterfly Ginger Lily they have. Have you heard of

> this?

> Common name: Butterfly Ginger Lily

> Scientific name:Zingiber? With a question mark,

> didn't get that?

> Parts used: fresh flowers

> Constituents: fractionated coconut oil,essential

> oils

>

> They say that the essential oil isn't on the

> market,India is producing an interesting ginger lily

> but they are expensive.

Darlene,

I don't know if it's from the same plant you're

interested in but Eden Botanicals has a nice ginger

lily C02. I would not say the the scent is similar to

gardenia. It is more woody/earthy/spicy. The

botanical name is not zingiber but maybe the question

mark means that the company was unsure? Anyway, I

thought you might be interested.

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At 02:06 AM 10/5/2006, you wrote:

><Darlene,

> I don't know if it's from the same plant you're

> interested in but Eden Botanicals has a nice ginger

> lily C02. I would not say the the scent is similar to

> gardenia. It is more woody/earthy/spicy. The

> botanical name is not zingiber but maybe the question

> mark means that the company was unsure? Anyway, I

> thought you might be interested.

> >

>Ladies,

>The ginger most often grown for it's gardenia -like scent

>is Hedychium coronarium, also known as white ginger, butterfly

>ginger, or white butterfly ginger,which has white flowers. Also

>hedychium gardnerianum, A.K.A. kahili ginger, which is yellow,is

>also another variety grown for its scent. They both originate in

>India, but are now associated with Hawaii. There are also many

>hybrids derived from the two as well. The ginger lily that Eden

>Botanical offers is from hedychium spicatum. I got a sample from

>them. I love it and was experimenting with it last night! I want to

>order some more.

>

is correct. The H. coronarium absolute is supposed to exist, I

haven't seen any yet, but I haven't looked very hard. It's from the

glorious flowers.

H. spicatum is from the root, and I use it a lot, it's wonderful.

Anya McCoy

Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com

Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org

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At 11:28 AM 10/4/2006, you wrote:

>Hello Anya,

> How would you describe the scent of your tinctured P. tobira? is

> it spicy,sweet,citrusy?

Hi Darlene:

It's softly floral, with some powdery and spice undertones. Very lovely.

> I have found a place that sells a maceration. I was also thinking

> of trying a maceration of a butterfly Ginger Lily they have. Have

> you heard of this?

Sells a maceration of what? Please share.

> Common name: Butterfly Ginger Lily

> Scientific name:Zingiber? With a question mark, didn't get that?

> Parts used: fresh flowers

> Constituents: fractionated coconut oil,essential oils

Macerations, which generally means in oil, is tricky. I got some

Hawaiian flower macerations from Liberty last year and I'm glad I

only got samples. Totally weak and insipid.

Whomever is sellin a maceration with frac. coconut oil *and* EOs is

slightly outside of the definition of maceration, IMO.

>

> They say that the essential oil isn't on the market,India is

> producing an interesting ginger lily but they are expensive.

> The scent is of gardenia and is a great extender for valuable

> flower oils when used as a carrier.Any info.

Let us know who it is, I'll go visit the site and perhaps be able to

ask them more pointed questions about what they're doing.

Anya McCoy

Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com

Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org

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Hello Anya,

your question was

Sells a maceration of what? Please share.

> A maceration of P.tobira and Butterfly Ginger Lily

Common name: Butterfly Ginger Lily

Scientific name:Zingiber? With a question mark, didn't get that?

Parts used: fresh flowers

Constituents: fractionated coconut oil,essential oils

Macerations, which generally means in oil, is tricky. I got some

Hawaiian flower macerations from Liberty last year and I'm glad I

only got samples. Totally weak and insipid.

Whomever is sellin a maceration with frac. coconut oil *and* EOs is

slightly outside of the definition of maceration,

Let us know who it is, I'll go visit the site and perhaps be able to

ask them more pointed questions about what they're doing.

>> Anya thank you for responding, being knew to all this I'am sure

I'm bound to make mistakes, That is why I'm trying to explore as

much as possible, looking,searching,researching... It can be a bit

mind boogling at times but always interesting!!!

The web address is www.gritman.com

Thanks again,

Darlene

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At 11:19 AM 10/5/2006, you wrote:

>The web address is www.gritman.com

>

> Thanks again,

>

>Darlene

I remember visiting this site many years ago -- and I know why I

never bought from them -- it's very user unfriendly! Is it just me

that hasn't found how to shop easily there? Do you really have to

enter a key word in the search? There's no list of EOs? Weird.

Anya McCoy

Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com

Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org

Natural Perfumers Chat Group

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>

> >The web address is www.gritman.com

> >

> > Thanks again,

> >

> >Darlene

>

> I remember visiting this site many years ago -- and I know why I

> never bought from them -- it's very user unfriendly! Is it just me

> that hasn't found how to shop easily there? Do you really have to

> enter a key word in the search? There's no list of EOs? Weird.

>

>

> Anya McCoy

>

Hi Anya,

I ment to mention that because I noticed problems too! (I'm sorry)

when you bring up the site ,don't put anything in the search box

click search, it will bring you to the first page scroll down to

bottom ,there will be a drop down box 1-100,101-200,201-300 ...the

macerations are at 201-300

but another problem if you click the back button sometimes you have

to refresh! such a pain!! I wouldn't blame you Anya if your ready to

throw in the towel too!

Darlene

P.S. You don't have to be bothered with this, isn't it your

birthday week? Have a Happy Birthday Anya! Libra yes? I'm a

Leo/virgo so I'm told I turned 40 the 23 of Aug. strange but I

really do feel like both more Leo though!!