Guest guest Posted November 17, 1999 Report Share Posted November 17, 1999 Dear Janelle: I've never been able to wean more than a 1/2 mg at a time. It's a slow, long drawn out process, but that has worked best for me. Some people do it by alternating doses every other day (i.e. 12, 13 , 12, 13), but for me, it was just easier to cut the pills in half. It was always painful, but slowing it down minimized the pain. I have been unable to get below 7.5 mg. I'm currently at 8. I never had a problem with vomiting, though. I wonder if something else is going on. I just get fatigue and terrible joint pain and my left side pain kicks in fiercely. Good luck, and I hope that you're feeling better soon. Kathy (AIH) Seattle area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 1999 Report Share Posted November 18, 1999 Janelle, I was weaned rather rapidly down to 10 mgs of pred and developed giant hives. My pred was boosted back up to 15 mgs. then reduced at 1 mg per week until I stopped taking it completely last New Years Eve. I was off it altogether for a month and by February I needed help getting out of a chair. It was a disaster. A Rheumatologist put me back on 10 mgs. daily because my Hepatologist was out of town. She also prescribed Vicoden and had no problem saying that doctors who refuse pain meds are poorly informed and misguided. When I started back on 10 mgs. I felt so good I thought I must be totally cured. No pain, no problems of any kind. But then I started reducing again and the pain began to return and increased. So did fatigue. Now, at 5 mgs., I'm having some major problems and it's unclear if it's because of reduced pred or because of bone conditions that have been caused by long-term Prednisone use. I see an Orthopedic Surgeon on the 24th. so he can check out whatever is going on. However, I never had chills, vomiting or fever like you're having. That sounds like another problem altogether. I do get more headaches than I've had in a long time but they could be caused by anything. I used to get headaches all of the time until I started taking Prednisone. Take care, Geri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 > > Hello, > > So, I've been looking, reading and trying to understand what adrenal insufficiency is, how this might be affecting our son, and, of course, how to help him. I ran across this source: > > http://www.biopathics.com/BioPDFs/Adrenal_Insufficiency.pdf > > It sounds about right, but as I am truly unable to discern the valid from the invalid on this (and many other) subjects, could someone have a look and let me know their thoughts. > > Also, I tried to get a better idea of what I am looking for from Andy's book, but am having a hard time. From what I understand, ther are " sweaters " and " non-sweaters " . Our son is definitely a " sweater " . Which then places him in the " high average " cortisol group. Ummmmmm...... what page did I say that on? Sweating is not directly controlled by the adrenals. >Also, he would fall into the thin arms/legs, fat abdomen... if he had any fat. I think I would characterize his abdomen as large, or distended, rather that fat. > > However, he also suffers from anxiety, depression, agitation, hypoglycemia - which are symptomatic of " low " cortisol levels. Yes. This means he is low. > > Also, what is ACTH? The hormone the pituitary releases to tell the adrenals to let out more cortisol. It is called AdrenoCorticoTrophic Hormone. ACTH. > > How would mercury have an effect on the adrenal system? It can impair the ability of the adrenal gland to actually make cortisol and other steroiids. It may also mess with the brain's ability to tell the adrenal glands to do so. > And could it be related in any way to the sulfation process? No. This is irrelevant to sulfation. >(I am just beginning to try to understand all this, so please be patient if my questions are nonsensical.) > > Many thanks, > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 - Andy, It is on page 118. I am also confused by this. My son is a nonsweater, but fits adrenal insufficiency as well. Craves salt, very thin, no traditional allergy symtoms but got lots of infections,low potassium, etc. Also has ADHD which I read somewhere yrs. ago could be caused by adrenal exhaustion. Will chelation take care of this, or is there something more I should do now? I've been chelating for 20 months. He is 15. Thank-you. Judy -- In , " andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@a...> " <AndyCutler@a...> wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > So, I've been looking, reading and trying to understand what adrenal > insufficiency is, how this might be affecting our son, and, of course, > how to help him. I ran across this source: > > > > http://www.biopathics.com/BioPDFs/Adrenal_Insufficiency.pdf > > > > It sounds about right, but as I am truly unable to discern the valid > from the invalid on this (and many other) subjects, could someone have > a look and let me know their thoughts. > > > > Also, I tried to get a better idea of what I am looking for from > Andy's book, but am having a hard time. From what I understand, ther > are " sweaters " and " non-sweaters " . Our son is definitely a > " sweater " . Which then places him in the " high average " cortisol > group. > > Ummmmmm...... what page did I say that on? Sweating is not directly > controlled by the adrenals. > > >Also, he would fall into the thin arms/legs, fat abdomen... if he had > any fat. I think I would characterize his abdomen as large, or > distended, rather that fat. > > > > However, he also suffers from anxiety, depression, agitation, > hypoglycemia - which are symptomatic of " low " cortisol levels. > > Yes. This means he is low. > > > > > Also, what is ACTH? > > The hormone the pituitary releases to tell the adrenals to let out > more cortisol. It is called AdrenoCorticoTrophic Hormone. ACTH. > > > > How would mercury have an effect on the adrenal system? > > It can impair the ability of the adrenal gland to actually make > cortisol and other steroiids. It may also mess with the brain's > ability to tell the adrenal glands to do so. > > > And could it be related in any way to the sulfation process? > > No. This is irrelevant to sulfation. > > >(I am just beginning to try to understand all this, so please be > patient if my questions are nonsensical.) > > > > Many thanks, > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 > I am also confused by this. My son is a > nonsweater, but fits adrenal insufficiency as well. Craves salt, > very thin, no traditional allergy symtoms but got lots of > infections,low potassium, etc. Also has ADHD which I read somewhere > yrs. ago could be caused by adrenal exhaustion. Will chelation take > care of this, or is there something more I should do now? I've been > chelating for 20 months. He is 15. Thank-you. What you do for immediate symptom relief is: magnesium 100-200 mg 4 times a day, free access to salt, licorice extract or candy, adrenal cortex extract, epsom salt baths, and if it doesn't scare the wits out of your doctor, 5 mg hydrocortisone 2 or 3 times a day (it is Rx unless you get the OTC skin cream and measure out the amount to deliver 5 or 10 times that much and smear it on him in the morning - rotate locations if you do this, e. g. 1-2 tsp of the cream smeared on him when you get him up in the morning). > > Judy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 I'm hypothyroid and hypoadrenal. I was hypothyroid first, though. I was hypothyroid at age 5 and was diagnosed with adrenal fatigue a few months ago. In truth, I did not have adrenal symptoms until about 6-9 months ago. I'm treating both and feel a lot better. sprint3000us <sprint3000us@...> wrote:http://www.medindia.net/Patients/PatientInfo/hypothyroidism.htm " Should thyroxine be given for all cases of hypothyrodism? No. In secondary hypothyroidism, thyroxine should not be given until adrenal insufficiency has been evaluated and if present treated. " Is the above statement true ? So, if one has secondary hypothyroidism, first adrenal should be checked and treated ?? Anybody here has hypothyroid and hypoadrenal ? Thanks, Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Did you check for adrenal defiency before you had adrenal symptoms ? http://www.medindia.net/Patients/PatientInfo/hypothyroidism.htm > > " Should thyroxine be given for all cases of hypothyrodism? > No. In secondary hypothyroidism, thyroxine should not be given until > adrenal insufficiency has been evaluated and if present treated. " > > Is the above statement true ? > > So, if one has secondary hypothyroidism, first adrenal should be > checked and treated ?? > > Anybody here has hypothyroid and hypoadrenal ? > > Thanks, > Sam > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 yes and it is very very common--just undiagnosed. Gracia > > Anybody here has hypothyroid and hypoadrenal ? > > Thanks, > Sam > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 The statement is true and not only for secondary hypothyroidism - the insert on the Synthroid box says it should only be given after adrenal problems are ruled out. Some doctors estimate 40% of hypothyroid people also have adrenal fatigue, as untreated hypothyroidism stresses the adrenals. I have hypoadrenia too, although I didn't at the time I was first diagnosed and medicated, it happened years later after a lot of stress in my life and the development of other diseases. Jan sprint3000us wrote: >http://www.medindia.net/Patients/PatientInfo/hypothyroidism.htm > > " Should thyroxine be given for all cases of hypothyrodism? >No. In secondary hypothyroidism, thyroxine should not be given until >adrenal insufficiency has been evaluated and if present treated. " > >Is the above statement true ? > >So, if one has secondary hypothyroidism, first adrenal should be >checked and treated ?? > >Anybody here has hypothyroid and hypoadrenal ? > >Thanks, >Sam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 No. But, I am an unusual case in that I had hypothyroidism in childhood. So, the thyroid problem was diagnosed first. Because hashimoto's is very strong in my family, I believe I had that first, then the adrenal problems. I also believe this because I had hashimoto's for about 40 years before I was diagnosed with the adrenal problems. If I had adrenal problems for that long, I believe it would have shown up long ago. sprint3000us <sprint3000us@...> wrote:Did you check for adrenal defiency before you had adrenal symptoms ? http://www.medindia.net/Patients/PatientInfo/hypothyroidism.htm > > " Should thyroxine be given for all cases of hypothyrodism? > No. In secondary hypothyroidism, thyroxine should not be given until > adrenal insufficiency has been evaluated and if present treated. " > > Is the above statement true ? > > So, if one has secondary hypothyroidism, first adrenal should be > checked and treated ?? > > Anybody here has hypothyroid and hypoadrenal ? > > Thanks, > Sam > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 how did you find the doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 In a message dated 9/13/2005 5:50:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TwisterAlley2@... writes: You might need to find you an altenative medicine doctor who would treat your condition with alternative or natural remedies like Raw Adrenal and such.I have not needed a General Practitioner in 5 1/2 years since putting my health in the hands of my Alternative Medicine doctor. Haven't seen my neuro in almost 2 years...I do see my GYN yearly. Hi I'm sorry I should have explained further. This is a holistic medicine doctor who is an MD. He mentioned the Cortep first, but when I told him I didn't thinks steroids were compatible with ldn, he started me on a lot of different supplements. Said he wants me to be comfortable and these supps should help. I was just curious about the steroids and ldn. By the way, he asked who had given me the script for ldn and wanted to know how it's helped me. He said the info I gave him from the ldn website really interested him. He also said he had a couple of other ms patients that he might consider giving it to. He said they are doing very well now, but if it's supposed to stop progression it might be worth it. So next time a ned a script, I can get it from him. He did say that my neuro was very forward thinking for giving it to me originally. We got another doc on board! Arlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 In a message dated 9/13/2005 7:00:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lkilcollin@... writes: how did you find the doc My husband went to him last year b/c he wanted to get on natural thyroid meds. He works out of a holistic medicine clinic run by a doctor who specializes in Thyroid and has written several books. Originally we a search for docs who prescribed Armour thyroid meds. I did more research and found out he is also Lyme Literate. Arlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 > > I went to my doctor yesterday to get results of tests. He said my adrenal > function is low and talked about taking physilogical doses of hydrocortisone. > I thought that corticosteroids (sp) were not compatible with ldn. > > > Does anyone have any ideas on this? > > Thanks > Arlene ========= You might need to find you an altenative medicine doctor who would treat your condition with alternative or natural remedies like Raw Adrenal and such. I have not needed a General Practitioner in 5 1/2 years since putting my health in the hands of my Alternative Medicine doctor. Haven't seen my neuro in almost 2 years...I do see my GYN yearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 > how did you find the doc ===== I got lucky...he is my ophthalmologist and he also practices alternative medicine. You might check your yellow pages for holistic doctors and alternative medicine doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 > > In a message dated 9/13/2005 5:50:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > TwisterAlley2@w... writes: > > You might need to find you an altenative medicine doctor who would treat > your condition with alternative or natural remedies like Raw Adrenal and such. > > I have not needed a General Practitioner in 5 1/2 years since putting my > health in the hands of my Alternative Medicine doctor. Haven't seen my neuro in > almost 2 years...I do see my GYN yearly. > > > > > Hi > I'm sorry I should have explained further. This is a holistic medicine > doctor who is an MD. He mentioned the Cortep first, but when I told him I didn't > thinks steroids were compatible with ldn, he started me on a lot of > different supplements. Said he wants me to be comfortable and these supps should > help. I was just curious about the steroids and ldn. > > By the way, he asked who had given me the script for ldn and wanted to know > how it's helped me. He said the info I gave him from the ldn website really > interested him. He also said he had a couple of other ms patients that he > might consider giving it to. He said they are doing very well now, but if it's > supposed to stop progression it might be worth it. So next time a ned a > script, I can get it from him. He did say that my neuro was very forward > thinking for giving it to me originally. > > We got another doc on board! > Arlene =========== Not good to use steroids long-term with LDN. They can cancel one another out. Go to your search engine and type in Raw Adrenal, Premier Labs. You might want to ask your doctor about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 LOW ADRENAL FUNCTION? REDUCE COFFEE, TAKE PLENTY OF PANTOTHENIC ACID AND RAW ADRENAL ENZYMES. GET CORTISOL LEVELS CHECKED OR BETTER YET JUST ADD A GOOD HEALTHY DOSE OF PHOSPHYTLSERINE TO YOUR REGIMEN. KATHY(200 MGS) iT REDUCES CORTISOL LEVELS AND HELPS YOU HANDLES STRESS MORE EFFECTIVELY [low dose naltrexone] Adrenal insufficiency I went to my doctor yesterday to get results of tests. He said my adrenal function is low and talked about taking physilogical doses of hydrocortisone. I thought that corticosteroids (sp) were not compatible with ldn. Does anyone have any ideas on this? Thanks Arlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 adrenal axis destruction, systemic fungal infections, also causes back pain, adrenal axis are located on the top of kidneys http://www.endocrinology.med.ucla.edu/adrenal_axis.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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