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Thanks for this information . Is this your same opinion if this house has

not had mold growth in it? I ask this because this is where I came to recover

from the house I was exposed in. I have not brought anything from the

contaminated home with me other than my computer which has been since thrown out

due to a posative pro-lab mold test. I did clean it very well but it was to no

avail. Once again thank you.

Chris...

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Using filters is like dealing with a sinking ship by installing a

pump to bail it out instead of fixing the leak.

Doesn't solve the problem.

Just slows it down.

The " filterists " like to promote filtration as a cure, when the

reality is that the most you can expect is a reduction in exposure

which may or may not be enough - depending on a multitude of factors.

I believe we had a study not too long ago that claimed success by

installing whole building filters because sixty percent of the

people said they felt better. Not too successful if you were one of

the people who didn't though.

Prof. Harriet Ammann warned me that electrostatic filters catch the

particulates, oxidize the spores and just let the released VOC's

roll on through so you get to breathe them anyway.

Not only that, but electrostatic filters release a small amount of

ozone.

The money I put into filters was all money wasted.

As Chin Yang of P & K put it, " If the mold is Stachy, removal is the

ONLY option " .

From my point of view, filters barely even begin to mask the

problem.

I'm not a fan of filtration.

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I have a Honeywell 50250 and a 1700 in my tiny 28' trailer. When my

ac had mold in the evaporator coils it was like the things were not

running but of course they were. They are not very effective at all.

Still use them though, obviously they are doing something maybe not

what I was hoping for. Every spore they trap is a spore that's not

going to grow into a mold colony or get in my ac unit or get inhaled.

I think the times I have been out of town and ran a dehumidifier and

put my airzone xt 6000 on a timer to go off twice a day helped a lot.

The heat and low humidity level seems to have made the mold dormant.

The ozone is just because I have the stupid thing. I don't know

weather it actually helps or not. It melted the Styrofoam in the

ceiling ducts I guess at least I know it's making ozone.

My best luck has been to keep the place dry with ac or dehumidifier.

Just have to keep them clean. I clean mine with bleach every other

day or so. Sounds like a lot but mold grows so fast I have no choice.

You put out a petri dish you have mold in 24 hours. It might be a

little slower on evaporator coils but I have got sick enough times to

know it's not a whole lot slower.

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:48:51 +0000, you wrote:

>Using filters is like dealing with a sinking ship by installing a

>pump to bail it out instead of fixing the leak.

>Doesn't solve the problem.

>Just slows it down.

>

> The " filterists " like to promote filtration as a cure, when the

>reality is that the most you can expect is a reduction in exposure

>which may or may not be enough - depending on a multitude of factors.

> I believe we had a study not too long ago that claimed success by

>installing whole building filters because sixty percent of the

>people said they felt better. Not too successful if you were one of

>the people who didn't though.

>

>Prof. Harriet Ammann warned me that electrostatic filters catch the

>particulates, oxidize the spores and just let the released VOC's

>roll on through so you get to breathe them anyway.

> Not only that, but electrostatic filters release a small amount of

>ozone.

> The money I put into filters was all money wasted.

>As Chin Yang of P & K put it, " If the mold is Stachy, removal is the

>ONLY option " .

> From my point of view, filters barely even begin to mask the

>problem.

>I'm not a fan of filtration.

>- (ptp)

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robert--do you have a special trailer which does not have formaldehyde???

Christ <antares41-41@...> wrote: I have a Honeywell

50250 and a 1700 in my tiny 28' trailer. When my

ac had mold in the evaporator coils it was like the things were not

running but of course they were. They are not very effective at all.

Still use them though, obviously they are doing something maybe not

what I was hoping for. Every spore they trap is a spore that's not

going to grow into a mold colony or get in my ac unit or get inhaled.

I think the times I have been out of town and ran a dehumidifier and

put my airzone xt 6000 on a timer to go off twice a day helped a lot.

The heat and low humidity level seems to have made the mold dormant.

The ozone is just because I have the stupid thing. I don't know

weather it actually helps or not. It melted the Styrofoam in the

ceiling ducts I guess at least I know it's making ozone.

My best luck has been to keep the place dry with ac or dehumidifier.

Just have to keep them clean. I clean mine with bleach every other

day or so. Sounds like a lot but mold grows so fast I have no choice.

You put out a petri dish you have mold in 24 hours. It might be a

little slower on evaporator coils but I have got sick enough times to

know it's not a whole lot slower.

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:48:51 +0000, you wrote:

>Using filters is like dealing with a sinking ship by installing a

>pump to bail it out instead of fixing the leak.

>Doesn't solve the problem.

>Just slows it down.

>

> The " filterists " like to promote filtration as a cure, when the

>reality is that the most you can expect is a reduction in exposure

>which may or may not be enough - depending on a multitude of factors.

> I believe we had a study not too long ago that claimed success by

>installing whole building filters because sixty percent of the

>people said they felt better. Not too successful if you were one of

>the people who didn't though.

>

>Prof. Harriet Ammann warned me that electrostatic filters catch the

>particulates, oxidize the spores and just let the released VOC's

>roll on through so you get to breathe them anyway.

> Not only that, but electrostatic filters release a small amount of

>ozone.

> The money I put into filters was all money wasted.

>As Chin Yang of P & K put it, " If the mold is Stachy, removal is the

>ONLY option " .

> From my point of view, filters barely even begin to mask the

>problem.

>I'm not a fan of filtration.

>- (ptp)

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On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:16:35 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>robert--do you have a special trailer which does not have formaldehyde???

No But to be honest I don't worry as much about low level voc's as I

do mold. Clearly they are a concern but low on the list. Most of that

new trailer smell is gone now anyway's.

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