Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 I wonder if it is some almost subconcious thing - like what if you had never heard a foreign accent? Would it be possible to speak with a foreign accent if one had never heard one? It's like the puzzling question how to you describe colours to someone who has never seen colours? > > > > had mentioned this phenomenon in one of the forums. Here is > > an article detailing it. > > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002680321_syndrome > > 13.html > > > > Foreign Accent syndrome baffles medical experts > > > > Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM > > > > By Steve > > > > The Kansas City Star > > > > KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Langdon spent the weekend in bed. She felt > > nauseated, and the words tumbling out of her mouth had nothing to do > > with what she was trying to say. It was frightening. And before the > > weekend was over, her son took her to the hospital. > > > > Langdon, a healthy, active woman of 51, had had a stroke. And like > > many people who suffer strokes, her life since that weekend in May > > 2002 hasn't been the same. > > > > She doesn't run for exercise anymore; her weakened right arm keeps > > her off the tennis court. > > > > And — most puzzling to her and others — when she speaks, her voice > > sounds as if she comes from France. The accent is rather odd for a > > woman who grew up in Missouri. And it's still a mystery even to > > scientists who have studied cases similar to Langdon's. > > > > Langdon is among only a couple of dozen known cases of people who > > have developed " foreign accent syndrome. " In most cases, since the > > condition was identified more than 80 years ago, their natural > > voices have been altered by some kind of brain trauma or head injury. > > > > People who know Langdon, including colleagues and marketing clients, > > have by now become accustomed to her change of voice. But when she > > meets new people, they often ask where she's from. > > > > " It's annoying, " she says. > > > > Before her stroke, most people knew Langdon as an effusive, creative > > woman. A divorced mother of three, she still operates a marketing, > > consulting and creative production firm out of her home. > > > > In May 2002, Langdon says, she had two episodes that signaled > > something was wrong: Flashes in one eye, ringing in her left ear, > > poor coordination and difficulty speaking were among the symptoms. > > After the stroke, Langdon was unable to speak and underwent months > > of physical and speech therapy. > > > > " All she could do was smile, " says daughter Langdon, now > > 24. " For someone who was active and very outspoken ... to go from > > that to nothing but facial expressions, that was traumatic. We > > couldn't fathom the idea that our mother could not speak. " > > > > It took about six weeks before Langdon's voice began to come back. A > > friend, Janis Rovick, remembers being in the room when Langdon > > looked up and said, " Hi. " > > > > But then Langdon had to learn how to speak all over again. > > > > " I knew the words, " she says now, " but I had to learn to form the > > words. There were some words I couldn't say and sounds I couldn't > > even make. " > > > > Scientists who have studied patients with foreign-accent syndrome > > have begun to understand the condition better in recent years as > > brain-imaging technology has improved and as the Internet has made > > it easier to bring scattered research and researchers together, says > > Jack Ryalls of the University of Central Florida. > > > > Ryalls has studied post-stroke speech problems for 25 years and saw > > his first case of foreign-accent syndrome 20 years ago. > > > > While brain researchers used to think language involved discrete > > regions of the brain — part of the frontal lobe, for instance, in > > the left hemisphere — now they theorize it involves a network of > > neurons crossing and connecting multiple regions. > > > > Foreign-accent syndrome may involve a lesion somewhere along that > > network, says Julius Fridriksson, assistant professor of > > communications sciences and disorders at the University of South > > Carolina. > > > > The act of speaking involves the movement and coordination of 50 > > muscles, Fridriksson says, and damage along the nerve network could > > affect any movement controlling the larynx or face or other speech- > > related body parts. > > > > Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Could be. Maybe if reincarnation is real it's a past life coming through. This has elements of comedy about, I could see Sellers doing some interesting things along this line (as in Dr. strangelove when he couldn't get his arm to keep from giving the Nazi salute). Ken > > > > > > had mentioned this phenomenon in one of the forums. Here > is > > > an article detailing it. > > > > > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002680321_syndrome > > > 13.html > > > > > > Foreign Accent syndrome baffles medical experts > > > > > > Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM > > > > > > By Steve > > > > > > The Kansas City Star > > > > > > KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Langdon spent the weekend in bed. She > felt > > > nauseated, and the words tumbling out of her mouth had nothing to > do > > > with what she was trying to say. It was frightening. And before > the > > > weekend was over, her son took her to the hospital. > > > > > > Langdon, a healthy, active woman of 51, had had a stroke. And > like > > > many people who suffer strokes, her life since that weekend in > May > > > 2002 hasn't been the same. > > > > > > She doesn't run for exercise anymore; her weakened right arm > keeps > > > her off the tennis court. > > > > > > And — most puzzling to her and others — when she speaks, her > voice > > > sounds as if she comes from France. The accent is rather odd for > a > > > woman who grew up in Missouri. And it's still a mystery even to > > > scientists who have studied cases similar to Langdon's. > > > > > > Langdon is among only a couple of dozen known cases of people who > > > have developed " foreign accent syndrome. " In most cases, since > the > > > condition was identified more than 80 years ago, their natural > > > voices have been altered by some kind of brain trauma or head > injury. > > > > > > People who know Langdon, including colleagues and marketing > clients, > > > have by now become accustomed to her change of voice. But when > she > > > meets new people, they often ask where she's from. > > > > > > " It's annoying, " she says. > > > > > > Before her stroke, most people knew Langdon as an effusive, > creative > > > woman. A divorced mother of three, she still operates a > marketing, > > > consulting and creative production firm out of her home. > > > > > > In May 2002, Langdon says, she had two episodes that signaled > > > something was wrong: Flashes in one eye, ringing in her left ear, > > > poor coordination and difficulty speaking were among the > symptoms. > > > After the stroke, Langdon was unable to speak and underwent > months > > > of physical and speech therapy. > > > > > > " All she could do was smile, " says daughter Langdon, now > > > 24. " For someone who was active and very outspoken ... to go from > > > that to nothing but facial expressions, that was traumatic. We > > > couldn't fathom the idea that our mother could not speak. " > > > > > > It took about six weeks before Langdon's voice began to come > back. A > > > friend, Janis Rovick, remembers being in the room when Langdon > > > looked up and said, " Hi. " > > > > > > But then Langdon had to learn how to speak all over again. > > > > > > " I knew the words, " she says now, " but I had to learn to form the > > > words. There were some words I couldn't say and sounds I couldn't > > > even make. " > > > > > > Scientists who have studied patients with foreign-accent syndrome > > > have begun to understand the condition better in recent years as > > > brain-imaging technology has improved and as the Internet has > made > > > it easier to bring scattered research and researchers together, > says > > > Jack Ryalls of the University of Central Florida. > > > > > > Ryalls has studied post-stroke speech problems for 25 years and > saw > > > his first case of foreign-accent syndrome 20 years ago. > > > > > > While brain researchers used to think language involved discrete > > > regions of the brain — part of the frontal lobe, for instance, in > > > the left hemisphere — now they theorize it involves a network of > > > neurons crossing and connecting multiple regions. > > > > > > Foreign-accent syndrome may involve a lesion somewhere along that > > > network, says Julius Fridriksson, assistant professor of > > > communications sciences and disorders at the University of South > > > Carolina. > > > > > > The act of speaking involves the movement and coordination of 50 > > > muscles, Fridriksson says, and damage along the nerve network > could > > > affect any movement controlling the larynx or face or other > speech- > > > related body parts. > > > > > > Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Ah, dr strangelove : ) I liked that movie very much! Lida Ken wrote: Could be. Maybe if reincarnation is real it's a past life comingthrough. This has elements of comedy about, I could see Sellersdoing some interesting things along this line (as in Dr. strangelovewhen he couldn't get his arm to keep from giving the Nazi salute).Ken> > >> > > had mentioned this phenomenon in one of the forums. Here > is > > > an article detailing it.> > > > > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002680321_syndrome> > > 13.html> > > > > > Foreign Accent syndrome baffles medical experts> > > > > > Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM> > > > > > By Steve > > > > > > The Kansas City Star> > > > > > KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Langdon spent the weekend in bed. She > felt > > > nauseated, and the words tumbling out of her mouth had nothing to > do > > > with what she was trying to say. It was frightening. And before > the > > > weekend was over, her son took her to the hospital.> > > > > > Langdon, a healthy, active woman of 51, had had a stroke. And > like > > > many people who suffer strokes, her life since that weekend in > May > > > 2002 hasn't been the same.> > > > > > She doesn't run for exercise anymore; her weakened right arm > keeps > > > her off the tennis court.> > > > > > And — most puzzling to her and others — when she speaks, her > voice > > > sounds as if she comes from France. The accent is rather odd for > a > > > woman who grew up in Missouri. And it's still a mystery even to > > > scientists who have studied cases similar to Langdon's.> > > > > > Langdon is among only a couple of dozen known cases of people who > > > have developed "foreign accent syndrome." In most cases, since > the > > > condition was identified more than 80 years ago, their natural > > > voices have been altered by some kind of brain trauma or head > injury.> > > > > > People who know Langdon, including colleagues and marketing > clients, > > > have by now become accustomed to her change of voice. But when > she > > > meets new people, they often ask where she's from.> > > > > > "It's annoying," she says.> > > > > > Before her stroke, most people knew Langdon as an effusive, > creative > > > woman. A divorced mother of three, she still operates a > marketing, > > > consulting and creative production firm out of her home.> > > > > > In May 2002, Langdon says, she had two episodes that signaled > > > something was wrong: Flashes in one eye, ringing in her left ear, > > > poor coordination and difficulty speaking were among the > symptoms. > > > After the stroke, Langdon was unable to speak and underwent > months > > > of physical and speech therapy.> > > > > > "All she could do was smile," says daughter Langdon, now > > > 24. "For someone who was active and very outspoken ... to go from > > > that to nothing but facial expressions, that was traumatic. We > > > couldn't fathom the idea that our mother could not speak."> > > > > > It took about six weeks before Langdon's voice began to come > back. A > > > friend, Janis Rovick, remembers being in the room when Langdon > > > looked up and said, "Hi."> > > > > > But then Langdon had to learn how to speak all over again.> > > > > > "I knew the words," she says now, "but I had to learn to form the > > > words. There were some words I couldn't say and sounds I couldn't > > > even make."> > > > > > Scientists who have studied patients with foreign-accent syndrome > > > have begun to understand the condition better in recent years as > > > brain-imaging technology has improved and as the Internet has > made > > > it easier to bring scattered research and researchers together, > says > > > Jack Ryalls of the University of Central Florida.> > > > > > Ryalls has studied post-stroke speech problems for 25 years and > saw > > > his first case of foreign-accent syndrome 20 years ago.> > > > > > While brain researchers used to think language involved discrete > > > regions of the brain — part of the frontal lobe, for instance, in > > > the left hemisphere — now they theorize it involves a network of > > > neurons crossing and connecting multiple regions.> > > > > > Foreign-accent syndrome may involve a lesion somewhere along that > > > network, says Julius Fridriksson, assistant professor of > > > communications sciences and disorders at the University of South > > > Carolina.> > > > > > The act of speaking involves the movement and coordination of 50 > > > muscles, Fridriksson says, and damage along the nerve network > could > > > affect any movement controlling the larynx or face or other > speech-> > > related body parts.> > > > > > Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 At times I slip into an " accent " or something that is percieved as an accent. Sometimes I am not aware of it till it is pointed out to me. Sometimes I am aware in a very detatched sort of way that I have started to think differently. It especially came out when I had a customer service job where I had to say the same thing over and over my whole shift. Various people have described it as sounding English or Welsh or Cockney. It sounds a bit like one of the " lower class " English accents to me. I was born and raised in the U.S. and have not traveled outside the U.S. except for few very short trips to Canada. I was completely baffled and did not no what to make of it or what could be causing it. I suppose that it could be some past life thing or a couple of other complex metaphsycial or psychological reasons, but a few month ago I happened on a more mundane explaination. I have auditory integration problems. In addition to have problems making out convesation because of background noises (which is normal for people with highly senstive hearing) I also have more difficulties than most people telling the differences between words and letters that sound similiar. While researching this I found that people with auditory integration problems often sound like they are speaking with and an accent. The explaination given is that because we do not hear the more subtle distinctions in pronounciation we do not learn to pronounce things correctly. This would not explain why I only have this sometimes, but I suppose half an explaination is better than none. Perhaps a consistant pattern of mispronounciation could sound like an accent, but would it correspond to a real accent. I will try to describe my " accent " and would like feed back from some Europeans about whether this might corresponds to any type of actual Bristish accent or if it just sounds like it to ignorant Americans. The most noticable thing is that in words that end with the letter t the t is not pronounced and sometimes the last sylable is dropped. The word " you " tends to come out as either " ya " or " ja. " Vowl sounds are often incorrect (such as " ta " for " to " ) or a little off. That is all that come to mind now. I think there were also more things like my cadance and sylable emphasis being different but that is difficult to describe. Ilah > > > > > > > > had mentioned this phenomenon in one of the forums. Here > > is > > > > an article detailing it. > > > > > > > > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002680321_syndrome > > > > 13.html > > > > > > > > Foreign Accent syndrome baffles medical experts > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM > > > > > > > > By Steve > > > > > > > > The Kansas City Star > > > > > > > > KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Langdon spent the weekend in bed. She > > felt > > > > nauseated, and the words tumbling out of her mouth had nothing to > > do > > > > with what she was trying to say. It was frightening. And before > > the > > > > weekend was over, her son took her to the hospital. > > > > > > > > Langdon, a healthy, active woman of 51, had had a stroke. And > > like > > > > many people who suffer strokes, her life since that weekend in > > May > > > > 2002 hasn't been the same. > > > > > > > > She doesn't run for exercise anymore; her weakened right arm > > keeps > > > > her off the tennis court. > > > > > > > > And — most puzzling to her and others — when she speaks, her > > voice > > > > sounds as if she comes from France. The accent is rather odd for > > a > > > > woman who grew up in Missouri. And it's still a mystery even to > > > > scientists who have studied cases similar to Langdon's. > > > > > > > > Langdon is among only a couple of dozen known cases of people who > > > > have developed " foreign accent syndrome. " In most cases, since > > the > > > > condition was identified more than 80 years ago, their natural > > > > voices have been altered by some kind of brain trauma or head > > injury. > > > > > > > > People who know Langdon, including colleagues and marketing > > clients, > > > > have by now become accustomed to her change of voice. But when > > she > > > > meets new people, they often ask where she's from. > > > > > > > > " It's annoying, " she says. > > > > > > > > Before her stroke, most people knew Langdon as an effusive, > > creative > > > > woman. A divorced mother of three, she still operates a > > marketing, > > > > consulting and creative production firm out of her home. > > > > > > > > In May 2002, Langdon says, she had two episodes that signaled > > > > something was wrong: Flashes in one eye, ringing in her left ear, > > > > poor coordination and difficulty speaking were among the > > symptoms. > > > > After the stroke, Langdon was unable to speak and underwent > > months > > > > of physical and speech therapy. > > > > > > > > " All she could do was smile, " says daughter Langdon, now > > > > 24. " For someone who was active and very outspoken ... to go from > > > > that to nothing but facial expressions, that was traumatic. We > > > > couldn't fathom the idea that our mother could not speak. " > > > > > > > > It took about six weeks before Langdon's voice began to come > > back. A > > > > friend, Janis Rovick, remembers being in the room when Langdon > > > > looked up and said, " Hi. " > > > > > > > > But then Langdon had to learn how to speak all over again. > > > > > > > > " I knew the words, " she says now, " but I had to learn to form the > > > > words. There were some words I couldn't say and sounds I couldn't > > > > even make. " > > > > > > > > Scientists who have studied patients with foreign-accent syndrome > > > > have begun to understand the condition better in recent years as > > > > brain-imaging technology has improved and as the Internet has > > made > > > > it easier to bring scattered research and researchers together, > > says > > > > Jack Ryalls of the University of Central Florida. > > > > > > > > Ryalls has studied post-stroke speech problems for 25 years and > > saw > > > > his first case of foreign-accent syndrome 20 years ago. > > > > > > > > While brain researchers used to think language involved discrete > > > > regions of the brain — part of the frontal lobe, for instance, in > > > > the left hemisphere — now they theorize it involves a network of > > > > neurons crossing and connecting multiple regions. > > > > > > > > Foreign-accent syndrome may involve a lesion somewhere along that > > > > network, says Julius Fridriksson, assistant professor of > > > > communications sciences and disorders at the University of South > > > > Carolina. > > > > > > > > The act of speaking involves the movement and coordination of 50 > > > > muscles, Fridriksson says, and damage along the nerve network > > could > > > > affect any movement controlling the larynx or face or other > > speech- > > > > related body parts. > > > > > > > > Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 born and raised where?Ilah <theturtlemoves@...> wrote: At times I slip into an "accent" or something that is percieved as an accent. Sometimes I am not aware of it till it is pointed out to me. Sometimes I am aware in a very detatched sort of way that I have started to think differently. It especially came out when I had a customer service job where I had to say the same thing over and over my whole shift. Various people have described it as sounding English or Welsh or Cockney. It sounds a bit like one of the "lower class" English accents to me. I was born and raised in the U.S. and have not traveled outside the U.S. except for few very short trips to Canada.I was completely baffled and did not no what to make of it or what could be causing it. I suppose that it could be some past life thing or a couple of other complex metaphsycial or psychological reasons, but a few month ago I happened on a more mundane explaination. I have auditory integration problems. In addition to have problems making out convesation because of background noises (which is normal for people with highly senstive hearing) I also have more difficulties than most people telling the differences between words and letters that sound similiar. While researching this I found that people with auditory integration problems often sound like they are speaking with and an accent. The explaination given is that because we do not hear the more subtle distinctions in pronounciation we do not learn to pronounce things correctly. This would not explain why I only have this sometimes, but I suppose half an explaination is better than none.Perhaps a consistant pattern of mispronounciation could sound like an accent, but would it correspond to a real accent. I will try to describe my "accent" and would like feed back from some Europeans about whether this might corresponds to any type of actual Bristish accent or if it just sounds like it to ignorant Americans. The most noticable thing is that in words that end with the letter t the t is not pronounced and sometimes the last sylable is dropped. The word "you" tends to come out as either "ya" or "ja." Vowl sounds are often incorrect (such as "ta" for "to" ) or a little off. That is all that come to mind now. I think there were also more things like my cadance and sylable emphasis being different but that is difficult to describe.Ilah> > > >> > > > had mentioned this phenomenon in one of the forums. Here > > is > > > > an article detailing it.> > > > > > > > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002680321_syndrome> > > > 13.html> > > > > > > > Foreign Accent syndrome baffles medical experts> > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM> > > > > > > > By Steve > > > > > > > > The Kansas City Star> > > > > > > > KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Langdon spent the weekend in bed. She > > felt > > > > nauseated, and the words tumbling out of her mouth had nothing to > > do > > > > with what she was trying to say. It was frightening. And before > > the > > > > weekend was over, her son took her to the hospital.> > > > > > > > Langdon, a healthy, active woman of 51, had had a stroke. And > > like > > > > many people who suffer strokes, her life since that weekend in > > May > > > > 2002 hasn't been the same.> > > > > > > > She doesn't run for exercise anymore; her weakened right arm > > keeps > > > > her off the tennis court.> > > > > > > > And — most puzzling to her and others — when she speaks, her > > voice > > > > sounds as if she comes from France. The accent is rather odd for > > a > > > > woman who grew up in Missouri. And it's still a mystery even to > > > > scientists who have studied cases similar to Langdon's.> > > > > > > > Langdon is among only a couple of dozen known cases of people who > > > > have developed "foreign accent syndrome." In most cases, since > > the > > > > condition was identified more than 80 years ago, their natural > > > > voices have been altered by some kind of brain trauma or head > > injury.> > > > > > > > People who know Langdon, including colleagues and marketing > > clients, > > > > have by now become accustomed to her change of voice. But when > > she > > > > meets new people, they often ask where she's from.> > > > > > > > "It's annoying," she says.> > > > > > > > Before her stroke, most people knew Langdon as an effusive, > > creative > > > > woman. A divorced mother of three, she still operates a > > marketing, > > > > consulting and creative production firm out of her home.> > > > > > > > In May 2002, Langdon says, she had two episodes that signaled > > > > something was wrong: Flashes in one eye, ringing in her left ear, > > > > poor coordination and difficulty speaking were among the > > symptoms. > > > > After the stroke, Langdon was unable to speak and underwent > > months > > > > of physical and speech therapy.> > > > > > > > "All she could do was smile," says daughter Langdon, now > > > > 24. "For someone who was active and very outspoken ... to go from > > > > that to nothing but facial expressions, that was traumatic. We > > > > couldn't fathom the idea that our mother could not speak."> > > > > > > > It took about six weeks before Langdon's voice began to come > > back. A > > > > friend, Janis Rovick, remembers being in the room when Langdon > > > > looked up and said, "Hi."> > > > > > > > But then Langdon had to learn how to speak all over again.> > > > > > > > "I knew the words," she says now, "but I had to learn to form the > > > > words. There were some words I couldn't say and sounds I couldn't > > > > even make."> > > > > > > > Scientists who have studied patients with foreign-accent syndrome > > > > have begun to understand the condition better in recent years as > > > > brain-imaging technology has improved and as the Internet has > > made > > > > it easier to bring scattered research and researchers together, > > says > > > > Jack Ryalls of the University of Central Florida.> > > > > > > > Ryalls has studied post-stroke speech problems for 25 years and > > saw > > > > his first case of foreign-accent syndrome 20 years ago.> > > > > > > > While brain researchers used to think language involved discrete > > > > regions of the brain — part of the frontal lobe, for instance, in > > > > the left hemisphere — now they theorize it involves a network of > > > > neurons crossing and connecting multiple regions.> > > > > > > > Foreign-accent syndrome may involve a lesion somewhere along that > > > > network, says Julius Fridriksson, assistant professor of > > > > communications sciences and disorders at the University of South > > > > Carolina.> > > > > > > > The act of speaking involves the movement and coordination of 50 > > > > muscles, Fridriksson says, and damage along the nerve network > > could > > > > affect any movement controlling the larynx or face or other > > speech-> > > > related body parts.> > > > > > > > Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company> > > >> > >> >>If you love something, set it free! 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Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 born and raised where?Ilah <theturtlemoves@...> wrote: At times I slip into an "accent" or something that is percieved as an accent. Sometimes I am not aware of it till it is pointed out to me. Sometimes I am aware in a very detatched sort of way that I have started to think differently. It especially came out when I had a customer service job where I had to say the same thing over and over my whole shift. Various people have described it as sounding English or Welsh or Cockney. It sounds a bit like one of the "lower class" English accents to me. I was born and raised in the U.S. and have not traveled outside the U.S. except for few very short trips to Canada.I was completely baffled and did not no what to make of it or what could be causing it. I suppose that it could be some past life thing or a couple of other complex metaphsycial or psychological reasons, but a few month ago I happened on a more mundane explaination. I have auditory integration problems. In addition to have problems making out convesation because of background noises (which is normal for people with highly senstive hearing) I also have more difficulties than most people telling the differences between words and letters that sound similiar. While researching this I found that people with auditory integration problems often sound like they are speaking with and an accent. The explaination given is that because we do not hear the more subtle distinctions in pronounciation we do not learn to pronounce things correctly. This would not explain why I only have this sometimes, but I suppose half an explaination is better than none.Perhaps a consistant pattern of mispronounciation could sound like an accent, but would it correspond to a real accent. I will try to describe my "accent" and would like feed back from some Europeans about whether this might corresponds to any type of actual Bristish accent or if it just sounds like it to ignorant Americans. The most noticable thing is that in words that end with the letter t the t is not pronounced and sometimes the last sylable is dropped. The word "you" tends to come out as either "ya" or "ja." Vowl sounds are often incorrect (such as "ta" for "to" ) or a little off. That is all that come to mind now. I think there were also more things like my cadance and sylable emphasis being different but that is difficult to describe.Ilah> > > >> > > > had mentioned this phenomenon in one of the forums. Here > > is > > > > an article detailing it.> > > > > > > > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002680321_syndrome> > > > 13.html> > > > > > > > Foreign Accent syndrome baffles medical experts> > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM> > > > > > > > By Steve > > > > > > > > The Kansas City Star> > > > > > > > KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Langdon spent the weekend in bed. She > > felt > > > > nauseated, and the words tumbling out of her mouth had nothing to > > do > > > > with what she was trying to say. It was frightening. And before > > the > > > > weekend was over, her son took her to the hospital.> > > > > > > > Langdon, a healthy, active woman of 51, had had a stroke. And > > like > > > > many people who suffer strokes, her life since that weekend in > > May > > > > 2002 hasn't been the same.> > > > > > > > She doesn't run for exercise anymore; her weakened right arm > > keeps > > > > her off the tennis court.> > > > > > > > And — most puzzling to her and others — when she speaks, her > > voice > > > > sounds as if she comes from France. The accent is rather odd for > > a > > > > woman who grew up in Missouri. And it's still a mystery even to > > > > scientists who have studied cases similar to Langdon's.> > > > > > > > Langdon is among only a couple of dozen known cases of people who > > > > have developed "foreign accent syndrome." In most cases, since > > the > > > > condition was identified more than 80 years ago, their natural > > > > voices have been altered by some kind of brain trauma or head > > injury.> > > > > > > > People who know Langdon, including colleagues and marketing > > clients, > > > > have by now become accustomed to her change of voice. But when > > she > > > > meets new people, they often ask where she's from.> > > > > > > > "It's annoying," she says.> > > > > > > > Before her stroke, most people knew Langdon as an effusive, > > creative > > > > woman. A divorced mother of three, she still operates a > > marketing, > > > > consulting and creative production firm out of her home.> > > > > > > > In May 2002, Langdon says, she had two episodes that signaled > > > > something was wrong: Flashes in one eye, ringing in her left ear, > > > > poor coordination and difficulty speaking were among the > > symptoms. > > > > After the stroke, Langdon was unable to speak and underwent > > months > > > > of physical and speech therapy.> > > > > > > > "All she could do was smile," says daughter Langdon, now > > > > 24. "For someone who was active and very outspoken ... to go from > > > > that to nothing but facial expressions, that was traumatic. We > > > > couldn't fathom the idea that our mother could not speak."> > > > > > > > It took about six weeks before Langdon's voice began to come > > back. A > > > > friend, Janis Rovick, remembers being in the room when Langdon > > > > looked up and said, "Hi."> > > > > > > > But then Langdon had to learn how to speak all over again.> > > > > > > > "I knew the words," she says now, "but I had to learn to form the > > > > words. There were some words I couldn't say and sounds I couldn't > > > > even make."> > > > > > > > Scientists who have studied patients with foreign-accent syndrome > > > > have begun to understand the condition better in recent years as > > > > brain-imaging technology has improved and as the Internet has > > made > > > > it easier to bring scattered research and researchers together, > > says > > > > Jack Ryalls of the University of Central Florida.> > > > > > > > Ryalls has studied post-stroke speech problems for 25 years and > > saw > > > > his first case of foreign-accent syndrome 20 years ago.> > > > > > > > While brain researchers used to think language involved discrete > > > > regions of the brain — part of the frontal lobe, for instance, in > > > > the left hemisphere — now they theorize it involves a network of > > > > neurons crossing and connecting multiple regions.> > > > > > > > Foreign-accent syndrome may involve a lesion somewhere along that > > > > network, says Julius Fridriksson, assistant professor of > > > > communications sciences and disorders at the University of South > > > > Carolina.> > > > > > > > The act of speaking involves the movement and coordination of 50 > > > > muscles, Fridriksson says, and damage along the nerve network > > could > > > > affect any movement controlling the larynx or face or other > > speech-> > > > related body parts.> > > > > > > > Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company> > > >> > >> >>If you love something, set it free! 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Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 I was born and raised in the USA. I was born in the northwestern part of the country, the eastern part of Washington state, near the Idaho boarder. I have been living in the Baltimore/Washington DC area since my mid twenties (over 10 years). This is in the mid- atlantic part of the US east coast, not really far enough north for a New England accent, but not far enough south for a Southern accent. Ilah > > > > > > > > > > had mentioned this phenomenon in one of the forums. Here > > > is > > > > > an article detailing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002680321_syndrome > > > > > 13.html > > > > > > > > > > Foreign Accent syndrome baffles medical experts > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM > > > > > > > > > > By Steve > > > > > > > > > > The Kansas City Star > > > > > > > > > > KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Langdon spent the weekend in bed. She > > > felt > > > > > nauseated, and the words tumbling out of her mouth had nothing to > > > do > > > > > with what she was trying to say. It was frightening. And before > > > the > > > > > weekend was over, her son took her to the hospital. > > > > > > > > > > Langdon, a healthy, active woman of 51, had had a stroke. And > > > like > > > > > many people who suffer strokes, her life since that weekend in > > > May > > > > > 2002 hasn't been the same. > > > > > > > > > > She doesn't run for exercise anymore; her weakened right arm > > > keeps > > > > > her off the tennis court. > > > > > > > > > > And — most puzzling to her and others — when she speaks, her > > > voice > > > > > sounds as if she comes from France. The accent is rather odd for > > > a > > > > > woman who grew up in Missouri. And it's still a mystery even to > > > > > scientists who have studied cases similar to Langdon's. > > > > > > > > > > Langdon is among only a couple of dozen known cases of people who > > > > > have developed " foreign accent syndrome. " In most cases, since > > > the > > > > > condition was identified more than 80 years ago, their natural > > > > > voices have been altered by some kind of brain trauma or head > > > injury. > > > > > > > > > > People who know Langdon, including colleagues and marketing > > > clients, > > > > > have by now become accustomed to her change of voice. But when > > > she > > > > > meets new people, they often ask where she's from. > > > > > > > > > > " It's annoying, " she says. > > > > > > > > > > Before her stroke, most people knew Langdon as an effusive, > > > creative > > > > > woman. A divorced mother of three, she still operates a > > > marketing, > > > > > consulting and creative production firm out of her home. > > > > > > > > > > In May 2002, Langdon says, she had two episodes that signaled > > > > > something was wrong: Flashes in one eye, ringing in her left ear, > > > > > poor coordination and difficulty speaking were among the > > > symptoms. > > > > > After the stroke, Langdon was unable to speak and underwent > > > months > > > > > of physical and speech therapy. > > > > > > > > > > " All she could do was smile, " says daughter Langdon, now > > > > > 24. " For someone who was active and very outspoken ... to go from > > > > > that to nothing but facial expressions, that was traumatic. We > > > > > couldn't fathom the idea that our mother could not speak. " > > > > > > > > > > It took about six weeks before Langdon's voice began to come > > > back. A > > > > > friend, Janis Rovick, remembers being in the room when Langdon > > > > > looked up and said, " Hi. " > > > > > > > > > > But then Langdon had to learn how to speak all over again. > > > > > > > > > > " I knew the words, " she says now, " but I had to learn to form the > > > > > words. There were some words I couldn't say and sounds I couldn't > > > > > even make. " > > > > > > > > > > Scientists who have studied patients with foreign-accent syndrome > > > > > have begun to understand the condition better in recent years as > > > > > brain-imaging technology has improved and as the Internet has > > > made > > > > > it easier to bring scattered research and researchers together, > > > says > > > > > Jack Ryalls of the University of Central Florida. > > > > > > > > > > Ryalls has studied post-stroke speech problems for 25 years and > > > saw > > > > > his first case of foreign-accent syndrome 20 years ago. > > > > > > > > > > While brain researchers used to think language involved discrete > > > > > regions of the brain — part of the frontal lobe, for instance, in > > > > > the left hemisphere — now they theorize it involves a network of > > > > > neurons crossing and connecting multiple regions. > > > > > > > > > > Foreign-accent syndrome may involve a lesion somewhere along that > > > > > network, says Julius Fridriksson, assistant professor of > > > > > communications sciences and disorders at the University of South > > > > > Carolina. > > > > > > > > > > The act of speaking involves the movement and coordination of 50 > > > > > muscles, Fridriksson says, and damage along the nerve network > > > could > > > > > affect any movement controlling the larynx or face or other > > > speech- > > > > > related body parts. > > > > > > > > > > Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Okay, curious about what said about someone just developing a foreign accent, I saw a program where a woman had a brain injury and woke up with a British accent. The odd thing was she also used words that the British used such as bonnet instead of car hood or petticoat instead of slip. That's the part that really baffles me. Your theory sounds like it could be right, Ilah. I've noticed several Aspergers who sound like they have accents and wondered just why. I know we can talk a little differently. I used to talk super fast and almost too presisely. > > > > > > > > > > had mentioned this phenomenon in one of the forums. Here > > > is > > > > > an article detailing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002680321_syndrome > > > > > 13.html > > > > > > > > > > Foreign Accent syndrome baffles medical experts > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM > > > > > > > > > > By Steve > > > > > > > > > > The Kansas City Star > > > > > > > > > > KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Langdon spent the weekend in bed. She > > > felt > > > > > nauseated, and the words tumbling out of her mouth had nothing to > > > do > > > > > with what she was trying to say. It was frightening. And before > > > the > > > > > weekend was over, her son took her to the hospital. > > > > > > > > > > Langdon, a healthy, active woman of 51, had had a stroke. And > > > like > > > > > many people who suffer strokes, her life since that weekend in > > > May > > > > > 2002 hasn't been the same. > > > > > > > > > > She doesn't run for exercise anymore; her weakened right arm > > > keeps > > > > > her off the tennis court. > > > > > > > > > > And — most puzzling to her and others — when she speaks, her > > > voice > > > > > sounds as if she comes from France. The accent is rather odd for > > > a > > > > > woman who grew up in Missouri. And it's still a mystery even to > > > > > scientists who have studied cases similar to Langdon's. > > > > > > > > > > Langdon is among only a couple of dozen known cases of people who > > > > > have developed " foreign accent syndrome. " In most cases, since > > > the > > > > > condition was identified more than 80 years ago, their natural > > > > > voices have been altered by some kind of brain trauma or head > > > injury. > > > > > > > > > > People who know Langdon, including colleagues and marketing > > > clients, > > > > > have by now become accustomed to her change of voice. But when > > > she > > > > > meets new people, they often ask where she's from. > > > > > > > > > > " It's annoying, " she says. > > > > > > > > > > Before her stroke, most people knew Langdon as an effusive, > > > creative > > > > > woman. A divorced mother of three, she still operates a > > > marketing, > > > > > consulting and creative production firm out of her home. > > > > > > > > > > In May 2002, Langdon says, she had two episodes that signaled > > > > > something was wrong: Flashes in one eye, ringing in her left ear, > > > > > poor coordination and difficulty speaking were among the > > > symptoms. > > > > > After the stroke, Langdon was unable to speak and underwent > > > months > > > > > of physical and speech therapy. > > > > > > > > > > " All she could do was smile, " says daughter Langdon, now > > > > > 24. " For someone who was active and very outspoken ... to go from > > > > > that to nothing but facial expressions, that was traumatic. We > > > > > couldn't fathom the idea that our mother could not speak. " > > > > > > > > > > It took about six weeks before Langdon's voice began to come > > > back. A > > > > > friend, Janis Rovick, remembers being in the room when Langdon > > > > > looked up and said, " Hi. " > > > > > > > > > > But then Langdon had to learn how to speak all over again. > > > > > > > > > > " I knew the words, " she says now, " but I had to learn to form the > > > > > words. There were some words I couldn't say and sounds I couldn't > > > > > even make. " > > > > > > > > > > Scientists who have studied patients with foreign-accent syndrome > > > > > have begun to understand the condition better in recent years as > > > > > brain-imaging technology has improved and as the Internet has > > > made > > > > > it easier to bring scattered research and researchers together, > > > says > > > > > Jack Ryalls of the University of Central Florida. > > > > > > > > > > Ryalls has studied post-stroke speech problems for 25 years and > > > saw > > > > > his first case of foreign-accent syndrome 20 years ago. > > > > > > > > > > While brain researchers used to think language involved discrete > > > > > regions of the brain — part of the frontal lobe, for instance, in > > > > > the left hemisphere — now they theorize it involves a network of > > > > > neurons crossing and connecting multiple regions. > > > > > > > > > > Foreign-accent syndrome may involve a lesion somewhere along that > > > > > network, says Julius Fridriksson, assistant professor of > > > > > communications sciences and disorders at the University of South > > > > > Carolina. > > > > > > > > > > The act of speaking involves the movement and coordination of 50 > > > > > muscles, Fridriksson says, and damage along the nerve network > > > could > > > > > affect any movement controlling the larynx or face or other > > > speech- > > > > > related body parts. > > > > > > > > > > Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Foreign Accent syndrome baffles medical experts By Steve http://www.JewishWorldReview.com (KRT) Langdon spent the weekend in bed. She felt nauseous, and the words tumbling out of her mouth had nothing to do with what she was trying to say. It was frightening. And before this Memorial Day weekend was over, her son took her to the hospital. Langdon, a healthy, active woman of 51, had had a stroke. And like many people who suffer strokes, her life since that weekend in May 2002 hasn't been quite the same. She doesn't run for exercise anymore; her weakened right arm keeps her off the tennis court. And - most puzzling to her and others - when she speaks, her voice sounds like she comes from France. The accent is rather odd for a woman who grew up in Missouri. And it's still much a mystery even to scientists who have studied cases similar to Langdon's. Langdon is among only a couple of dozen known cases of people who developed what's been labeled Foreign Accent syndrome. In most cases, since the condition was first identified more than 80 years ago, their natural voices have been altered by some kind of brain trauma or head injury. One researcher estimates fewer than 30 cases have been documented in scientific literature. People who know Langdon, including colleagues and marketing clients, have by now taken her change of voice in stride. When she meets new people, they often ask where she's from. "It's annoying," she says, and sometimes she'll try to get away with replying that she's from somewhere in Italy or Brazil or France. Beats having to explain. Before her stroke, most people knew Langdon as an effusive, creative woman. A divorced mother of three, she still operates a marketing, consulting and creative production firm out of her home. In May 2002, Langdon says, she had two episodes that signaled something was wrong - flashes in one eye, ringing in her left ear, poor coordination and difficulty speaking were among the symptoms. After the stroke, Langdon emerged unable to speak and bound for months of physical and speech therapies. "All she could do was smile," says daughter Langdon, now 24. "For someone who was active and very outspoken ... to go from that to nothing but facial expressions, that was traumatic. We couldn't fathom the idea that our mother could not speak." returned from South Carolina, where she'd been a nursing student, to stay with her mother during her post-stroke recovery and rehab. Sons Dylan and Beau rallied round, as did Langdon's ex-husband, Tom, and numerous friends, all of whom visited her frequently and fretted over her future. It took about six weeks or so before Langdon's voice began to come back. A friend, Janis Rovick, remembers being in the room when Langdon looked up and said "Hi." But then Langdon had to learn how to speak all over again. "I knew the words," she says now, "but I had to learn to form the words. There were some words I couldn't say and sounds I couldn't even make." The speech therapist gave her facial exercises. She started with one-syllable words, then two and three syllables, then phrases and paragraphs. As she watched her mother, Langdon realized it was like encountering a child who was learning to speak. With two important differences. For one, children are also learning word meanings as they learn to pronounce and 's mother hadn't lost what she already knew. The second difference was, her voice took on a different tone and shape, and no matter how much she tried to shake it, she was stuck with the new sound. Nowadays her voice is slightly breathy, and sometimes there's a gap in rhythm or grammar that may evoke the sound of a non-native speaker of many languages. Scientists who have studied patients with Foreign Accent syndrome have begun to understand the condition better in recent years as brain imaging technology has improved and as the Internet has made it easier to bring scattered research and researchers together, says Jack Ryalls of the University of Central Florida. Ryalls has studied post-stroke speech problems for 25 years and saw his first case of Foreign Accent syndrome 20 years ago. While brain researchers used to think language involved discrete regions of the brain - part of the frontal lobe, for instance, on the left hemisphere - now they theorize it involves a network of neurons crossing and connecting multiple regions. Foreign accent syndrome may involve a lesion somewhere along that network, says Julius Fridriksson, assistant professor of communications sciences and disorders at the University of South Carolina. Fridriksson, Ryalls and other colleagues published a scientific paper just last month involving a South Carolina man who began speaking with an accent after a stroke. The man, in his 40s, had no other disabilities and a year after his stroke completely regained his Southern accent. Fridriksson's study concluded that the brain can often compensate for damage. Doctors often note that a stroke patient's recovery will plateau within two years. Three and half years after her stroke, Langdon understands the implication of that. Perhaps her accent will never go away. But, as neurologist Oliver Sacks wrote recently in a New Yorker article about aphasia, a more common and devastating communication disorder linked to strokes, the two-year timeline is not always firm. "I have seen this generalization," he noted, "proved false in many individual patients." The act of speaking involves the movement and coordination of 50 muscles, Fridriksson says, and damage along the nerve network could affect any movement controlling the larynx or face or other speech-related body parts. It's too soon to identify which of those brain fibers, neurons or muscle movements add up to a voice that sounds like an accented, non-native speaker of English or any other language. But the science, Ryalls says, is progressing "and cases like Langdon's are helping." One morning two years ago, Langdon had the television on and was startled to discover someone shared her problem, a woman who, after a stroke, spoke with a British accent. Langdon got in touch with producers of "Good Morning America," and soon Diane Sawyer had Langdon on the air in a brief follow-up interview. The show aired Langdon's old answering-machine message, which callers to her business still hear. Her voice on it is sharp-edged and all-American, without the halting, lilting rhythms she speaks with now. "It's almost like her new accent seems to fit her look and her personality," says Fred Paddock, an old friend and colleague. "When I work with her now, it does not sound strange any more. It just sounds like , or the new , I guess." Her daughter and sons are grateful just to have her back in action and mostly recovered from the stroke. They know it all could have been far more devastating. And Langdon's not sure, but she thinks the accent has begun to recede a bit. Today, Langdon still pauses at times, in search of words and phrases. She has filed a lawsuit over aspects of her diagnosis and treatment. And if people wonder whether her accent is real, well, she can't help that kind of uninformed opinion. "I would talk in my own voice if I had it," she says. "I'd give anything to not talk in this voice." 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