Re: Re: B/A Friday 6/24 LONG

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What about a vertical mastopexy (and laser treatment for stretchmarks if applicable) instead of BA?

LMnaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

My sister said the same things to me, that my breasts were not as bad as hers, I guess there are some people that have worse problems then others, but despite that there are things you can do, falsies you can wear, etc to make yourself look better in clothes. I understand how you feel and I really sympathize with your situation, I truly know what it is like to feel deformed and disgusting. To me my breasts were very deformed and hanging down they looked gross. I don't think small implants would have made a big difference on me, they would have looked silly too because they are not like real breasts they are ropunder, firmer etc. But these reasons I agree are probably not enough to stop you from getting implants.I hope that your health, and being a mom and raising your kids is enough to make you think twice about implants and about

getting them, as I lost my relationship with my 7 year old daughter due to my illness, she was always with her father for those years I spent being ill, and by the time I was well enough to be a real mom to her she did not want to live with me any longer, she wanted to stay with her dad, and who can really blame her, I mean really all she new was that I was sick and tired and sleeping and crying all the time when I was not pushing myself to go to work to try to hold on to the little that I had.My husband now has taught me that my small breasts are beautiful but when he married me they were red and scarred and gross to me. My PS told me they would be beautiful and I trusted her and now I feel they really are, they are exactly proportioned to what my body size is. My sister after all I went through got implants anyhow, but not saline as she read so much bad stuff about saline she decided gel was safer, she is fine so far, but

I believe she will have her own problems and may already be beginning to and just not ready to admit it yet. She was much flatter than me and the PS told her there was nothing to be done to fix it, so she got the gel implants because she was scared of the bacteria and junk growing in my and others salines. I had my implants analyzed and while mine were cleaner than some womens they were still analyed and found to have microrganism and leaking faulty valves.It is your choice and your decision and maybe you will be happy for at least alittle while. But what will you do if you lose your health and maybe your life for implants? Will it be worth it? Does your ps know how to remove them en bloc if you do have illness or other problems? Do you know the real statistics on saline implants and problems and that they are much much higher than anyone will admit. The truth is they are dangerous defective devices, many more women are ill

and just don't want to give up the implants so they remain in denial about it. It is sad what some women will do to keep implants. I know because there were several times in that 18 months that I had them that I got on pain meds and just thought I would live with it to keep the boobs, but in the end, it got to the point where I was so sick, that looking sexy or good in a tank top just did not matter that much to me anymore.Go out and buy some little chicken cutlet things, like we all have, we call them that, and get a pocket bra and see how nice they make you look. I know girls with huge stretch marks and scars and all, and in their clothing you would never know it because they wear the cutlets and look great. You and your husband are the only ones that will know. If he loves you the way you say he does, he will probably just be relieved that you are not risking your life and you childrens lives to get

implants.Anyhow it is your choice and we cannot talk you out of it if your dead set on doing it that is what you will do.I just hope you will remember that later on if you do get sick we will still be here for you.I really pray you will cancel your surgery, but I know that you probably want them so bad that nothing will change your mind at this point. It is so sad that most women cannot see that breasts were made for feeding your children and that the changes that occur are a part of nature. Implants are not natural and they are dangerous.Trust me I too was a D cup when my milk came in, as was Patty, who I wish would write but is probably off line today. I know that her breasts were extremely stretched and a mess and she was very very torn being a nature and healthy type living person her whole life, but she got implants as the one thing she really wanted to fix in her life and within 8 months she got them out she was so

ill. There are so many of us, you cannot ever ignore the facts, nor will you ever be able to forget us. Even if your implants are ok at first remember that over time you can still have illness pop up.It is like living with a bomb ready to go off in your body.Again if you can live with that choice and are prepared to deal with systemic illness, then you are truly informed and we have done all we can to help you.may god be with youIn , "tiffanysgirl2004" wrote:> > Hi - > > Thank you for your wonderful and lengthy response. It touches me > that anyone would take such time to help out.> > I'm going to write the following to answer your question about > clothing. I did look at your photos and I see why it is hard for you > to understand why I am limited in clothing options.

Your upper pole > was (is) still smooth skin - if you wore a scoop neck or v neck or > low cut dress or shirt you would not see those stretch marks or only > see them a small amount - and what you have are normal stretch > marks. What I have is extreme. I have about 75% less tissue than you > did and the lines from the excess skin and stretch marks are deep > grooves - like wrinkles - big ones. If I wear anything that gets > even close these are very visable stretch marks I can handle - this > is different. And right above my nipple there is actually a concave > area. I guess it's partly due to the fact that I was a very > large "D" when I breastfeeding and I breastfed for a long time.> > I've only found a couple of photos in the thousands that I have > looked at online that even come close. I know it's hard to > undertsnad without seeing - but even the people closest to me that

> would have disowned me for such a decision have said that they don't > blame me and that they would do it too. Even my OBGYN said she has > never seen the problems I have in her career. > > With that said - I still would rather have a deformity than lose my > life as I know it. I have had mixed responses about a lift. Problem > is I have no sag! > > Oh - I guess you misread my post - it was my sister-in-law that died > form scleroderma - she's not a blood relation. This doctor actually > said he would not rule out that the implants could have played a > role but facts are that the disease was advanced and the bloodwork > showed that it was present before her implants. She had only had > them 2 years when she died. > > > I'm not being defensive - I woulnd't be here if I just wanted to > argue why I "should" do it. It's important to me that the facts

are > clear. It is far more impactful to know the real live concrete > findings and experiences than to grasp at straws - my sister-law > based on concrete medical findings was sick long before her > implants - in HER case.> > The implant I have chosen to receive should I actually go through > with it - are small. I am only going to a "B" cup as I was before I > was pregnant and just as he is loving me with the very ugly problems > I have now - my husband is willing to deal with having something > fake about me. So these reasons are not reasons I would chose not to > have the surgery.> > Illness and long term problems as you spoke of are. I am > extremely sorry to hear about what you went through and to hear that > saline implants can cause many of the same sounding symptoms that > one would hear about with silicone is what I'm looking for. Thank

> you for sharing your story! I will continue to do a lot of thinking!> > > > > > > > > HI.> > > > > > I am scheduled for breast implant surgery this Friday at 6AM. I > > have > > > done research for a couple of years on andoff since I stopped > > > breastfeeding my first child and found that I was unhappy to a > > > distraction at the breasts that I was left with after weaning. I > > had > > > my second child a couple years later (I knew we wanted another > > child > > > so I wasn't thinking about doing anything surgery wise until > after > > I > > > had her and breastfed and weaned her) and after my second > daughter > > >

weaned at about 18 months I was ready to get serious about > looking > > > inton doing something about my breasts. I was a perky "B" cup > > before > > > my babies and after I am a very deflated - wrinkled - > stretchmarked > > > barely "A". I could deal with the size , but my breasts look > > exactly > > > like those of a small breasted 80 or 90 year old women. They are > > > effecting my sexual life with my husband as well as my social > life > > > as I hate the way I look in clothing and won't wear a bathing > suit > > > because you can see the wrinkles over the top of a suit and you > can > > > see the concave areas in a full piece. My life is fashion as I > am a > > > designer and wearing the clothing that I love or design makes me > > > feel wonderful and that is also missing from

my life right now. > > > Padded bras help under clothing but can only be worn with > certain > > > clothing. This is my background as to why I am at this point > about > > > to undergo surgery on Friday morning and I wanted you to > understand > > > that it is beyond a size or simple vanity issue.> > > > > > I am a very thorough person as far as research is concerned and > > even > > > when women warn not to look at "anit-implant" sites I am never > one > > > to ignore the other half of the story. I have seen may mnay > explant > > > sites and support siters and the such but I am in a quandry. I > > > haven't found enough information about problems apart from those > > > well known (CC, bottoming out, infection, rejection, mammogram > > > difficulties, rippling, heaviness,

hematomas, stigma attatched > to > > > larger breasts (I had "D" cups when I was breastfeeding and I > > > honeslty didn't get any more attention than I already do) and > other > > > actual surgical complications. I haven't actually found anything > to > > > really give me an idea about "SALINE poisoning" plenty on > silicone > > > and I understand the outer shell is silicine but I'm looking for > > > information on women that have has systemic, autoimmune, chronic > > > fatigue, arthritic problems etc... with SALINE implants that > have > > > never had silicone. I don't have much longer to back out if I > feel > > > as if I need to and I have looked through the messages here and > of > > > course you have been talking to eachother for a long time so I > am > > > not finding

the original stories. > > > > > > Is there anything you can tell me about being sick from saline > > > implants? Now I have to say that my sister in law died from > > > scleroderma (systyemic not external) a few years after getting > > > saline implants. Her doctor is the top scleroderma doctor in our > > > country and he said that from all the testing that he has done > he > > > can say with assurity that her disease was beginning to manifest > > > before she had her implants. In other words I do understand from > a > > > medical and logical standpoint that "sometimes" these diseases > are > > > going to happen anyway - but I am open to the stories that you > have > > > in which you really feel as if it had everything to do with the > > > implant.> > > > > > I

really truly appreciate you time and help in assisting me in > > > making the most informed decision I can. > > > > > > Thank you sincerely -> > >