Ann: muscle twitches not going away

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Yes, I was explanted March 11, 2004 I had a hair analysis done

about a week after that and my tin levels were at 95% toxicity

level. The report stated that tin can cause degenerative nerve

disease. I see on the Mentor site they use " small " levels of tin in

the implants. Out of all the many symptoms I had, nothing has

really remained except the tingling and muscle twitches, oh and

sometimes if I'm eating in a restaurant with bright lights, lights

bother me and make me disoriented. I only had mine 11 months total,

starting getting sick a few days after getting them. I had a

silicone sensitivity test and it was negative.

Did you say at one time you were doing a liver cleanse? I couldn't

remember who was doing that.

hugs,

Beth

> > Dear Ann,

> >

> > Thanks for the reply. Have you been tested for heavy metals,

etc?

> > How long have you been explanted? I will try your suggestion.

> >

> > hugs,

> > Beth

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Beth,

Well I would definately give it some more time. Your body needs

major time to get rid of those toxins. I know that most nerves in

most cases can regenerate themselves given time. Listen to the

ladies here about detox. I do not know much about that, the only

advice I have is not to overload on detox, do one or two things at a

time! Try not to worry too much about MS or ALS, it is highly

unlikely. It sounds like you are already getting better so try to be

patient and try to stay positive (easy for me to say!!!)

Ann

> > > Dear Ann,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the reply. Have you been tested for heavy metals,

> etc?

> > > How long have you been explanted? I will try your suggestion.

> > >

> > > hugs,

> > > Beth

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I'd like to respond to muscle twitching. Mine was sooooooooooo bad

when I tried to go to sleep it happened everytime and could wake me

up. I had to be on nuerontin, prescribed from my psychiatrist. also

helped with the muscle spasms. I could not sleep without it.

Nothing helped the muscle twitch. It just eventually went away. Oh

course no dr. knew what it was. I also had nerve damage in my back

so I was on neurontin for that. That's all they could do was treat

the symtpoms. I've been off that stuff for about a year. If you

really have to do it. It also curbed my pain and violent mood

swings. I was bad off. I could have probalby jumped out the window,

my nerves were so bad at one point and the iggy feelings, jumpy

muscles and pain, dear Lord. I needed help. I know the feeling.

Waiting for something to go away might be hard. I needed help now.

Its not permanent. And nuerontin is not addictive. Love

> > > > Dear Ann,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the reply. Have you been tested for heavy metals,

> > etc?

> > > > How long have you been explanted? I will try your suggestion.

> > > >

> > > > hugs,

> > > > Beth

>

>

>

>

>

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,

Thank you for sharing. Mine don't really hurt. They are just

embarrassing because you can see them jump. When I have a lot of

them I start obsessing that I may really have MS or ALS and I start

to get scared again. Yesterday my leg went numb again and I felt

very tired. I can't really tell how much progress I am making on

getting better. I think it's going to go away, and then, wham-it

starts up all over again. Hope you are feeling better.

hugs,

Beth

> I'd like to respond to muscle twitching. Mine was sooooooooooo

bad

> when I tried to go to sleep it happened everytime and could wake

me

> up. I had to be on nuerontin, prescribed from my psychiatrist.

also

> helped with the muscle spasms. I could not sleep without it.

> Nothing helped the muscle twitch. It just eventually went away.

Oh

> course no dr. knew what it was. I also had nerve damage in my

back

> so I was on neurontin for that. That's all they could do was

treat

> the symtpoms. I've been off that stuff for about a year. If you

> really have to do it. It also curbed my pain and violent mood

> swings. I was bad off. I could have probalby jumped out the

window,

> my nerves were so bad at one point and the iggy feelings, jumpy

> muscles and pain, dear Lord. I needed help. I know the feeling.

> Waiting for something to go away might be hard. I needed help

now.

> Its not permanent. And nuerontin is not addictive. Love

>

> --- In , Jane Doe

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Ann

Have you tried this calmac supplement? Did it work? If it does, I

would like to try some.

Beth:

I have had muscles spasms and twitches for many many years. Ihave

had fms for at least 20 years. Three years ago when I started

getting really sick, the spasms increased tremendously as did the

cramping in my calves and toes. I would wake up with charlie horses

alot. Anyway, I am almost 3 years post explant and I still have

muscle spasms everywhere. They wax and wane but never go away. I

have tried researching it on the net, and have found at least that

many people have them, don't have any idea why they start, and very

little success in getting them to stop. So I think you can feel

fairly certain they don't mean you have ms or anything like that.

So don't panic. On the otherhand, you may not be able to stop them

completely. If you can't, you will be in good company. Mine really

vary alot, especially if I am detoxing. Then they get much more

noticeable. Good luck with yours.

Hugs,

kathy

-- In , " nantynannie "

<nantynannie@y...> wrote:

> Hi Beth,

>

> Yes I have the twitches and leg and toe cramps and sometimes my

hands

> cramp and I get restless legs which I consider the worst of the

lot.

> They have not gone away.

>

> Please try the kind that dissolves into water and fizzes. I think

it

> absorbs the best. I saw in your post to Cricket that you think it

is

> not absorbing. This CalMac by Nutrina says that it dissolves into

> ions which are quickly moved into the system, my chiropractor

> recommended it. I am not sure about the Twin Labs, but it is

worth a

> try!

>

> Wich you were better,

>

> Ann

>

>

> > > > > To everyone who has experienced the muscle twitches,

when

> > do

> > > > the

> > > > > darned things go away? I am doing everything I can

tolerate

> > to

> > > > get

> > > > > better, but I still have them every day, almost all day

> long.

> > > > Last

> > > > > night I woke up with them in my left foot, my toes were

> > cramping

> > > > and

> > > > > going nuts. I have tried super malic, which makes them

> > worse.

> > > So

> > > > > does this probably mean that I've still got heavy

> > > metals/chemicals

> > > > > moving around or does it mean that the nerves are still

> > misfiring

> > > > > and need to be repaired? The tingling is better and mild

> > mostly

> > > > in

> > > > > my left hand and foot; it's bearable I think.

> > > > > I am still on supplements, doing occasional enemas,

Epsom

> > > > > salt/ginger detox baths, trying to eat organic when

> possible.

> > Am

> > > > so

> > > > > miserable; sorry to be a whiner.

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Beth

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Kathy,

The CalMac will definately help for the cramping that you have...be

sure to take it at bed time because it can make you sleepy like a

muscle relaxer. Get CalMac or another brand that has calcium and

magnesium 1 to 1 ratio and make sure it is the kind that dissolves in

water, it absorbes better (the pills don't work that well). Take it

every night. I think for the twitching, some people also do

potassium.

Ann

> > > > > > To everyone who has experienced the muscle twitches,

> when

> > > do

> > > > > the

> > > > > > darned things go away? I am doing everything I can

> tolerate

> > > to

> > > > > get

> > > > > > better, but I still have them every day, almost all day

> > long.

> > > > > Last

> > > > > > night I woke up with them in my left foot, my toes were

> > > cramping

> > > > > and

> > > > > > going nuts. I have tried super malic, which makes them

> > > worse.

> > > > So

> > > > > > does this probably mean that I've still got heavy

> > > > metals/chemicals

> > > > > > moving around or does it mean that the nerves are still

> > > misfiring

> > > > > > and need to be repaired? The tingling is better and mild

> > > mostly

> > > > > in

> > > > > > my left hand and foot; it's bearable I think.

> > > > > > I am still on supplements, doing occasional enemas,

> Epsom

> > > > > > salt/ginger detox baths, trying to eat organic when

> > possible.

> > > Am

> > > > > so

> > > > > > miserable; sorry to be a whiner.

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Beth

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Thanks ann. I will give it a try. I do take calcium and magnesium

separately. I haven't noticed much of a difference. STrangely

enough, when I take megadoses of vitamin C that sometimes help. I

haven't a clue as to why!

kathy

-- In , " nantynannie "

<nantynannie@y...> wrote:

> Kathy,

>

> The CalMac will definately help for the cramping that you

have...be

> sure to take it at bed time because it can make you sleepy like a

> muscle relaxer. Get CalMac or another brand that has calcium and

> magnesium 1 to 1 ratio and make sure it is the kind that dissolves

in

> water, it absorbes better (the pills don't work that well). Take

it

> every night. I think for the twitching, some people also do

> potassium.

>

> Ann

>

>

>

> > > > > > > To everyone who has experienced the muscle

twitches,

> > when

> > > > do

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > darned things go away? I am doing everything I can

> > tolerate

> > > > to

> > > > > > get

> > > > > > > better, but I still have them every day, almost all

day

> > > long.

> > > > > > Last

> > > > > > > night I woke up with them in my left foot, my toes

were

> > > > cramping

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > going nuts. I have tried super malic, which makes

them

> > > > worse.

> > > > > So

> > > > > > > does this probably mean that I've still got heavy

> > > > > metals/chemicals

> > > > > > > moving around or does it mean that the nerves are

still

> > > > misfiring

> > > > > > > and need to be repaired? The tingling is better and

mild

> > > > mostly

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > my left hand and foot; it's bearable I think.

> > > > > > > I am still on supplements, doing occasional

enemas,

> > Epsom

> > > > > > > salt/ginger detox baths, trying to eat organic when

> > > possible.

> > > > Am

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > miserable; sorry to be a whiner.

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Beth