Re: Re: our responsibility, get more info. but proceed, will you?Dr. 1-512-220-2434 ext. 9

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Re: our responsibility, get more info. but proceed, will you?Dr. 1-512-220-2434 ext. 9

,I am completely and 100% for research that is done for the purpose of finding answers that will promote the truth about the damage implants have done to women. Whether or not THIS is the study to do that, I cannot say. I don't have enough information yet, and I am not aware that anyone else does yet either. I do think it is worth the effort to find out from him what the expectations are, how it is going to work, and what we will be expected to do. I hope that is the positive word you needed to hear from me, , because that is the only positive word I can say at this point. I do think it is our responsibility to contribute, but we need to be careful not to be taken advantage of. That is a very real possibility, and what we need to be cautious of. I'm just saying let's be smart, and I think that is entirely fair and appropriate. You won't hear me say at this point, LET'S ALL DO THIS. I can't without knowing the facts. For everyone who wants to proceed without answers, that is your choice....please do! You will have to make up your own mind about what you are comfortable with. Things are posted here for our benefit, but as you say, , take what you need and leave the rest. That fits. I have no qualms about the type of doctors that we seek answers from, whether a traditional MD or naturopathic. I want to be very clear about that, because there are many doctors who are MD's that use safe, effective and integrative medicine. Yes, I personally do favor natural healing methods. But I don't want to be seen as being exclusively for naturopathic doctors to the exclusion of all others. It totally depends on their healing methods. What I abhor are dangerous, ineffective methods that do NOT promote healing or get at the root cause, but rather cover up symptoms and also contribute to toxicity in the body, which many drugs do. I abhor wasted time, wasted money, ignorance about the way the body works, based on the limited views of modern medicine. It is not the title of the doctor that I am concerned about. It is the methods used to cure. Unfortunately, most MD's are only trained in the use of drugs and are overwhelmingly tunnel visioned toward drug use. They are many times hostile and insulting toward other doctors and patients who look outside the box. You know. You've experienced it. We know there are other valid ways to heal, because we have seen them work. But many MD's have not been educated in alternative medicine practices, and that is usually why they are ineffective when it comes to silicone illness. Keep in mind that there has never been a drug that has cured any of our problems, only reduced the severity of our symptoms. In my experience, and that of other support group leaders, the women who experience longer lasting healing from implant related illness are those whose primary focus is to detoxify the body. Yes, drugs may need to be used at times, but healing really only comes for those who don't depend on drugs for the long term.Maybe someday that will change with a miracle drug, maybe not. I don't know. Hopefully someday we will have the answers. Whether or not this study is the one to give them to us is what we will find out.We can be hopeful, but let's not get our hopes up too high, and try to stay realistic.Patty> again we need all the support we can get. a larger sample gives more accurate data. If you've had breast implants we need you!> > > thank you Marie:> I think you're statements are fair and to the point. Honest disclosure good and bad should be accepted about doctors based on first hand experience and not rumors. If a person has first hand experience with a dr. they should let it be heard. We need to know all sides of the issue. We all need to stick together and support each other as well, because if we can't stick together who else is going to help us.> > I feel adament that this is our duty and responsiblity to man kind to at least find out more of the details because this could be the major break through we need. The idea, that because he is a medical dr. and not a homeopath is uncircumstantial. We need a doctor and research who will be well respected by the medical community. Apparently has been around a while and writes very knowledgable papers on the subject. A homeopath lacks the expertise he has in this area of the effects of a toxin on the body. Furthermore, no one should consider themselves exempt from this study because there time has passed. Longitudinal studies are precisely what we need. It dosen't matter the length of time you had your implants, what kind you had, or any of those details, the point is you had implants now lets looks a the manipulation of those variables. Variables such as type of implant, how long did you have them, how long have you been explanted, what happened in your first two years> of explant, how are you 10 years after explant, have you recovered even after the first two years, meaning do you continue to improve, or was you most recoery in your first two years. The diversity of these variables in each of us is key to coming to informed conclusions. > > I did not think that there would be costs involved with this study. I assumed not. However, I will stand corrected if that comes to pass. As of yet we don't know that. Therefore, there is no reason to not proceed until we have reason to do otherwise. > > As for an apology to Lynda. I am always upset with myself when I loose my temper. I, in my cognitive defects forgot she said she was a patient of his. I was caught up in the intensity or the hope this study has for us. Further, she states she knows something that we do not know and the website is censored. Fair enough, email me personally so as to protect me and the others. I would not reveal that information if a person was trying to protect me. I do beleave there are spys. As of yet she has said nothing to make me be cautious of his ability to do research. Her comments were based on his medical qualifications. > > I'm interested in his ability to do research. I do know something about the field as I am in research methods 800 as a grad student next to completeing a Master's. I know what it takes to put a good reseearch project together. I would offer to continue to act as group representative on this to protect the members. I believe there are others out there who also have research backgrounds. Let it be known, we can form a committee. I feel very impressed to focus on this as my way of giving back to a group that saved me. > > In addition, I feel we all in our own ways will contribute to this cause. Patty, has this group, that is her way. Kacey has her website. Each of us responds from their heart to each others woes. I feel this is something I would like to do, and feel innately that this is where I can do the most good. I would like to be apart of one of the 50 chapters, Dr. is hoping to set up, one in each state.> > I feel there are factions to this group that have devided us. Namely, the 100%homeopathics and others less rigid. I commend those for such an outstanding life style. I want to be more like them yes. However, just because he is a dr. doesn't give us reason not to trust him. I believe we can learn a lot from him. He speaks of immune toxins in our environment to be aware of. Etc. Etc. > > We have several good plastic surgeons known to our group: Feng, Kolb, Huang and others. We need more doctors who will stand up against the medical community and say silicone and saline implants are bad. Listen, a plastic surgeons voice is only going to be minimally heard, why? because its not really their area of expertise. Dr. is the Director of a Medical Center for Immune and Toxic Disorders. He has much more experience with the toxic effects at a molecular level than our Plastic Surgeons. As an example, when I go to Dr. Feng for her to tell me if I have silicone in my lymph nodes, she cannot tell me herself. She relies on the report from Dr. Kahn, the radiologist at Cleveland Clinic to do the ultrasound and do the silicone mapping for her. He is the one who actually marks on your body where the surgeon should cut. Again area of expertise. Feng, Kolb and Huang are Plastic surgeons, and can only attest to what women have told them are happening. And yes they can> research the information from medical journals. Whose medical evidence do you think they'll be reading? Someone like Dr. . A doctor who precisely understands toxic effects to the body.> > Jesus said go make fisher's of men. AA says give what has been freely given to you. This is not a new philosophy. All well established groups are prolific if group members give back as has been given to them. > > In my heart that is my purpose on this group, as well as wanting to learn from you all. However, I am personally convicted to save another life, and that means spreading the word. I tell everyone I know of the effects silicone has had on my life, to save someone. My biggest joy would be to save another.> > Again, as stated above, I hope you will find your niche in making silicone poisoning lesser of a problem for future women. If you don't think joining in research that can help explain the toxic effects of silicone is a worthwhile adventure, or you think there are risks involved then find another way. I respect everyones point of view as long as you do something. Don't forget how others saved your life. > > I think this is asking a small price from each of us to share our medical records with a doctor who wants to help us. His motives are aleady stated. He beleaves silicone adversely affects women. He's standing up for us, lets get on the band wagon. what are you waiting for. Proceed with caution fine, but come on, at least call his office. Again, who will stand up for the future of the american women and take part in this research? If costs are envolved then no we won't do it. But lets not let the opportunity pass us by either. Lets get more information but lets move forward. Who is with me. And this is in no way a motive to seperate us, we need to be compassionate to each other, we cannot fraction, we are stronger together. We must learn to live in peace with each other.> > And Lynda, I do apologize for my hasty remarks, I just want that to be publically understood. I would also appreciate you informing me of anything I should be aware of. And I will listen respectfully. You can email me privately. I don't mind your comments, because a good deciison is based on getting all the information, however, if you are cautioning us caution us for a specific rason, state why you don't want to and encourage other. Patty you as well, you said you feel your time has passed. Even though I think a longitudinal study is definately needed her, just because you don't want to be apart of the research could you encourage others to do so as long as they proceeded with prudence. I am most concerned about the devision of homepathic doctors and medical doctors. I for one really can't stand drs. and would trust a homeopathis dr. much more readily than a medical dr. The homeopaths are much mroe informed on these issues as well. However, under these circumstances I> feel Dr. is far more qualified based on his specialty of immunology and toxics AND research than a homeopathic dr. I think the girls need a positive word from you Patty. I feel you made valid points and are a balanced Christian women, what I don't understand is, are you partially saying we should be cautious because he prescribes medications and is not 100% natural. If that be the case, there's a valuable sang that goes like this. Take what you need and leave the rest. I hope we can all join and just continue to grow as one big happy family of silicone sisters. With love, .> > I will continue to keep the gorup informed . Please it would be nice if others would openly join in this research. Don't let a petty arguement keep us from helping mankind. And I ask God to have us all do what is right and bless this project and that it all work out for the best for everyone. God Bless all of you. Please do your part, what ever it may be.> > In addition, lets try to be positive concerning each of our personal viewpionts. As I feel strongly about this one, I hope any criticism is loving given in a consturctive way. We should always hope to edify each other. > > Here is the number to call again: 281-681-8989 ask for Shilo or Nina (research assistant) or call Dr. directly at 512-220-2434 ext #9. Please help me make an informed decision.