Re: Everyone has implants

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends:

I had my implants removed a year ago. My hair still falls out and I really do

not know if the source of my problems were the implants. But I do not want to

go through the pain of another surgery or risk any future problems. I must say

I liked the way I looked with them and hate they what I look without. I went to

dinner sat. with fiance and 3 other couples. All three of the other women had

implants. I felt like I looked really odd. I am extremely flat chested an A

cup.

Just wanted to share with my friends.

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Was hair loss your only symptom? Did you have anthing else that was

going on that made you feel crappy with implants? Have you had NO

improvement whatsoever since removal? I am asking all these questions

because usually when there is NO improvement at all, then you have to

start wondering if you went to a good Doc who removed all the stuff,

etc etc.

Did you go to one of the recomended surgeons? Did they say that they

had seen your situation and that it might take up to a year or 2

before your symptoms improved? Have you had thyroid tests to check on

your thyroid hormones to see if there is a problem there? How about

any other blood work?

Have you done any detoxing? Do you work out daily? Do you eat well

and a mostly raw organic diet? Have you been tested for food

allergies as well? Candida also can be an issue. I am pretty sure

Terry, who was very very ill, still has hair loss as an issue, and I

still can tell you I shed more than average, though I don't notice my

hair looking thin, it looks thick, it just sheds more than normal off

and on. Did your hair look better in the winter? Summer months are

def worse for shedding. I know your in Florida right? Did you ever

see Dr Vasey? I know he is an excellent rheumatologist in your

area that would probably be super helpful for you. There could be so

many things from the implants that your hair loss issues may take

allot time to fix. , if your reading this please help us out

cause I know your hair was bad for awhile there and you got it to

stop, but then you do an intense diet and detoxing program.

how long did you have those implants in you? You may have a

parasite or mycoplasm problem left behind from them. Something is def

holding back your healing.

I am really curious to know what if any other symptoms you had. If

hair loss was the only one, it is possible it was not the implants,

but I doubt it. Also even if by some freaky chance it was not the

implants, they are toxic bags of hell that have damaged many lives,

so getting new ones would be a totally crazy thing to do and it

sounds like as much as you miss the way you looked with them your

already smart enough not to get new ones.

Personally I would have a hard time hanging around a few women with

implants all the time, now if the boobs are big and real, (like my

new very close friend) it does not bother me at all, I have a tiny

boob envy of course, but I just figure I am thinner and fitter, and

that is cool, I have the athletic look and that works out well for me.

I think working out would be a good idea of course to get your body

fit, firm etc.

The next thing I would do is invest in some chicken cutlet looking

flesshy things that you can stick in a pocket bra and wear those the

next time your out with your fiance and these implanted women. If

that really makes you uncomforatable you can have the option of a

nice padded bra, but realistically the enhancers will make you look

allot bigger and if your really wanting just a bit of a curvier look

they help allot.

I like mine and my husband knows and totally supports me wearing

them, he says it is just another fashion accesory. We are just women,

none of us are perfect but we were made in gods image, we are a thing

of beauty.

I do not know who your dr was, I cannot remember, in fact I want to

say I think it was Feng, but I cannot recall maybe it was someone

else. Did she do a lift? Many are so happy after a lift but some

still are not. Lifts do shrink the size a tiny bit, due to the

tightening and that can make you flatter. I def had more skin before

the lift, but that is exactly all it was, skin, not breast tissue and

it was ugly and gross.

Anyhow I don't believe for a second that your implants were not your

problem, I just believe that for whatever reason your body has not

healed itself yet. Something is standing in the way of your healing

and you may have a long road ahead of you in terms of doing more

cleansing work, enemas, colonics, cleanses like Cricket was talking

about. There are many things that really will help.

I would get some more labs and see where things are at with your

thyroid. Also if you had any other labs that were funny, ana or

anything have them rechecked to see if they have come down.

I know the hairloss thing is overwhelming, so I can related to that,

been through it. But if your other symptoms have gotten better than

the hair thing may be your last little issue, I know for me my last

little issue has been my heel pain. I can get it to go into a dormant

or remission but it always comes back, that is why I have decided I

must need more cleanisng and detoxing, there has to be an answer for

us both on these last symptoms.

Anyhow i know this was a long email i am just trying hard to get a

better grasp of your situation, of where your coming from, and of

what is exactly going on as far as your health. If i remember

correctly you did have other stuff going on too so I am curious how

much of your issues had gone away since your explant.

if you can find the time to read all my questions and answer them

that would be so awesome.

I don't believe that everthing we see is exactly as it looks, such as

the two women you dined with that seem fine. Maybe right now they are

maybe they will go off into the sunset and always be that way, but my

guess is they will problems eventually too. Not all women will admit

it, will connect it, or will ever ever remove the implants period, so

that is something that we all have to accept. We all were led to this

place for a reason, I know I was. I met Patty before this site even

existed and argued and begged and new in the back of my head that

yes, it had to be the implants, but I hung in there trying to make it

work for 18 moths, and ya know what, they just are not for me.

I know that and as much as I would love a fuller breast, I am more

concerned with being fit and healthy and happy. I love my looks, I am

a total girlie girl, I love make up clothes, jewelry, tanning, all

the girlie things, so to give up my girlie bust was hard, but I like

myself and I want to live a good life for the next 30 40 whatever

many years on this earth not concerned about two time bombs in my

chest.

My very own flesh and blood sister decided to risk all that health

and beauty and stregnth that most 50 year old women don't have, to

have those damn silicone boobs, and so far after a year and a half

she believes she is out of the wooods. I believe that her time has

yet to come and that when it does, she probably will not admit it is

the implants and will just blame it on aging. At 50 or 52 or 55 that

will be easy to do I guess.

Anyhow I think I have spoke enough, I know my emails go on and on

sometimes, but I have lots of thoughts on this topic and that is why

I do that.

I want you to get better and I believe you can and will.

hang in there ok?

Love

PS try to email me or write back on the group so that I know more

about your situation.

we can and will always be here for you girlie.

you did the right thing with explant, you had textured implants and I

remember you were having allot of problems. I have to believe at

least some of them went away.

ok let me know

I will keep you in my prayers.

love

Ok as far as for appearance sake

In , mmdamaria@a... wrote:

> Dear Friends:

>

> I had my implants removed a year ago. My hair still falls out and

I really do not know if the source of my problems were the implants.

But I do not want to go through the pain of another surgery or risk

any future problems. I must say I liked the way I looked with them

and hate they what I look without. I went to dinner sat. with fiance

and 3 other couples. All three of the other women had implants. I

felt like I looked really odd. I am extremely flat chested an A cup.

>

> Just wanted to share with my friends.

>

[Guest guest]

That is right, your inner stregnth will be important ever step of the

way. However not everyone has implants, it depends on where you live

but don't be fooled, allot of us wear falsies and you would never

know the difference.

honestly boobs are just boobs, they are not that important, work on

your figure with weights and exercise, you don't need to do much of

anything else.

hugs

In , PACCOAST@a... wrote:

> You must pull from within I guess - some kind of inner strength.

It's not

> the implants that make the woman, it's the woman!!!!

[Guest guest]

You didn't tell me your symptoms other than hair loss, do you have

any thing at all that has gotten better since removal? ANYTHING AT

ALL?

I do think the hair thing can be caused by implants, and i do think

it can go away. Maybe you need more detoxing.

I know you went to a great Dr so I know that part of it is not the

problem, thank god. I think that if you give your body more time and

more nutrients etc, you will get better. It is still relatively early

I swear for me 18 months to 2 years were my biggest turning point.

I pray will see this and have some tips for you because she had

the hair loss and got rid of it and I know you too can.

i am here for you, I hate being around allot of implanted women too,

and now in two more days I will be with my sister who I am trying to

make peace with, and frankly having your own family have implants i

would take 10 friends with them rather than my own sister anyday.

She is convinced she will never have a problem. I am not so sure.

Either way, I know that I DID and some of us just cannot have

implants.

there is so much more to you than your breasts.

Please don't envy those women with implants, they may seem

fine, trust me I went to work everyday and seemed fine too. In fact

one day a nurse was so funny I was really feeling bad and she told me

how she was jealos of me cause I looked so healthy and had a nice tan

and I thought to myself SH*t I am dying and your telling me I look

healthy. No one ever would have guessed i was dying inside. TRUST ME

WE DON " T KNOW WHAT THOSE WOMEN ARE GOING THROUGH, many have issues

they do not share with us, esp mere aquaintances, look at me it took

me 3 years to tell one person here in Idaho.

I admit I have an advantage of living in a conservative mostly mormon

town where there are not many implants, but I go to Ca and see tons

of them. We may not be the majority , but who knows, no one studies

this stuff so we don't know for sure.

try some more detoxing and cleansing.

keep fighting your gonna get better

PS are you trying Nioxin hair care products? They really work.

I feel the key can be malabsorption too, as my friends at work that

have had the gastric bypass lose tons of there hair due to not

absorbing nutrients correctly. Many of them have to take B12 shots.

In fact if you need some B12 to inject I have a few bottle I

will send you some. You will need to get syringes and I don't know if

you can buy them over the counter in Florida. If not I can send you

those too.

I have a huge bottle I am happy to share. You just shoot it in your

thigh or butt muscle.

send me your address or phone number on my email if you want it I

will send it out right away, the syringes I will have to buy so let

me know. It might be helpful to you.

ok honey anything I can do to help you name it.

hugs

In , mmdamaria@a... wrote:

> :

>

> Thank you for writing back. You words are very

encouraging. I went

> to Feng, did the lift and yes have had every test known to man

done. All

> normal. no thyroid problem. I am constantly around women with

implants. Not

> really my friends, some are, but people I know. I just do not see

that they are

> having any problems. I do exercise often. I am thin. About

5'9/130. I think

> I am just having doubts about the removal. But I do not have

doubts about

> reimplantation. No way.

>

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

April,

hi and welcome to the site. I am sorry for your sickness and for what

your going through, your not going to like what I am going to say but

frankly if you don't find a way to get the implants out, nothing will

really help with the symptoms. They may wax and wain like all

autoimmune diseases, but the cold hard truth is that you most likely

are going to continue to get sicker. I am sorry that your son is ill,

is this related to your illness do you think(From breastfeeding)?

Anyhow I need to be blunt with you, so excuse me, I am not being

mean, but there are options that you can look at. Do you have a

credit card? Do you have a house you can get a loan on? Family that

will help you with explant? Have you talked to Kolb or Mehlmed about

financial coverage? Do you have any insurance? Sometimes some Dr's

can get this stuff approved. Where there is a will there is usually a

way, and sometimes we get so caught up we don't even see it.

My Dr is who I mostly will recomend but in your case, you probably

would not be able to afford her and she is not the best one as far as

getting things covered. I wish she was cause she does beauiful work,

but hey there are others and they do nice work and some of them

really know how to work the insurance system to get this stuff

covered. Of course the lift and anything above and beyond merely

explanting will not be covered however, it sounds like your sick and

i worry that you will not get well and may deteriorate more and more

the longer you leave them in. What if they are full of fungus and

chunks of infectious material like Shari's and others on this site?

You cannot leave those in there, it is the equivilent of leaving an

abcessed tooth in your mouth, the repercutions are too scary and you

mention your son and frankly I emphasize with you on this that if

your too sick to be a mom what kind of life will he have? His health

is obviously important but trust me, my illness ruined my

relationship with my young daughter and it very well can end up

destroying everything around you. Illness gets difficult to live with

on a day to day thing, after awhile people that you never thought

would let you down, will grow weary. Esp if we don't take a chance at

getting well.

Personally having been there, I know that nothing has ever made any

one that I have EVER heard of better other than first getting the

implants out, then trying all the detoxing and working at it seems to

be the only option to get well.

There are Dr's that are less expensive, you can forgo the lift, if

you have to. But the implants need to go.

Vitamin B12 does not do much for someone with autoimmune disease, but

I did recomend it for who has already been explanted, to help

her hair get better. It takes time after explant to get well again

and hard work. Some of us that just reacted to the shell tend to find

health quickly again, others it can literally take a few years, but

usually you will feel better soon. I mean better, not cured within a

few months.

It is amazing how much most of us feel and look better without the

big fake breasts too.

If you check out our files and photo section on the webstie you will

learn allot and see that no one is deformed from explant and that

most of us look fine. In fact allot of us look better.

I don't want to seem harsh, but the truth is once you start reacting

to the implants, it is pretty difficult if not impossible to shut off

that reacting. Most of the time it will continue to go on and

eventually you will end up with a full blow autoimmune disease often

times, like I was heading for. I know trust me, when that blood work

started coming up positive that was enough for me.

Please please April try to find a way, get creative, is there

something you can sell? Someone who would loan you the money. I think

Mehlmed will only charge 4 or 5,000 and even Feng is not that much

for just the explant portion maybe a few hundred over $5,000. Kolb

gets peoples insurance to pay often times so that is another good one

to look into. I am not sure about the others but there is a whole

list of Drs that would and could be a good option for you.

What state are you in?

Please know I am not trying to be mean or negative, just having been

there myself when I was like you, poor and feeling no way could I

come up wtih the money let alone worried about how I would look, I

nevre thoght I could get them out. I finally just was so ill with

lupus looming large in my future that I had to suck it up and ask my

parents to give me the $10,000 to get the explant and lift. It was

hard, but it turned out to be the best thing I ever did for myself.

Anyhow please try to think about this. I know allot of women who were

set on keeping the implants for these very same reason and they found

ways to get them out.

I pray you will take time to think about and consider the options. I

will be happy to help you find a Dr that will work for you. Let me

know where you live etc.

Again my name is and I am one of the several moderators on

this site. I had implants for 18 months and became extrmely il and

was about to be diagnosed with lupus when I decided enough was

enough. I was a single mom living in a double wide trailer and making

$14 bucks an hour in California, and I found a way to get them out

and now I am doing so much better, got remarried and moved to Idaho.

My life is completely different now for the better. I never new I

would be able to do the things I have accomplished over the last few

yers since explant and I am extrmely proud of myself for the stregnth

and willingness i had to listen to others and do what I had to do to

get those bombs out of me.

As for vitamins, some might help you at least to keep your body

getting proper nutrients, but as for a miracle cure, I have not heard

of a single one yet. I am sure that no one else here has either, or

we would have shared it by now.

please try to pray about this and how this can happen for you. Make

some calls, get some price ranges, again do you have insurance etc

etc.

there are options for you girl and we are all here for you and would

like to be able to help anyway we can.

if you ever need to talk also we can talk on the phone or via email.

let me know ok,

sorry if I seem harsh I just hate to see you get sicker.

love and blessings

In , Aprilcupcake@a... wrote:

> HI, I'm new to this group and topic...but, my hair started to fall

out about

> two years

> ago....most of it occured in a single afternoon.

> I had saline implant surgery in 1995. I still have them, but I

have had many

> health issues in the last six years or so.

> I was recently diagnosed with Hepatitis C and mild Hypothyroidism.

> Both of which most likely contribute to all it.

> Even with medication for the hypo, my hair continues to fall out.

> I would say that at least 30% of its density is gone and the over-

all

> condition of it is very poor.

> Like it isnt getting the proper nutrients or something.

> I know that hepatitis can interfere with the way your body

metabolizes

> protein and hormones, so I am unsure what avenue to go now in terms

> of resolution.

> My dermatologist tells me it is definately NOT androgenic. There

isnt any

> pattern to it, and I do not have the characteristic skin problems

that also

> come with androgenic alopecia.

>

> I contracted the Hepatitis in 1976 after an apendectomy. I was 13

and I am

> 40 now....so I have had it for a long time. I am not a good

candidate for

> treatment

> because of the genotype, and having my implants removed is not an

option

> financially bacause my six year old son tested positive as well and

we now

> have to

> put our resources toward his health.

> I wonder if vitamin B injections would help this at all? I have

always been

> slightly

> anemic..

> Do you need a prescription for it? or is it available on the web?

>

> thanks for any info!

> .