Re: Re: Photos-- P.

June 29, 2004

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Hi. Sure we can hook up when I go back to Indy.I'm in DC now.

I had blood tests last week and I'm currently awaiting my test results. I feel bruised in my lower right back, feet, ankles, hands, wrists and lower legs. I never had these symptoms until a couple months ago. Before that, it was just headaches. My TSH was 3.5, then went down to 1.8 so I think I'm OK thyroid wise.

I'm glad you're doing well. I recall you had diffused hair loss, did it grow back? I hope all is well with you. Your lift sounds good. I never knew they could lift the breast from within. I guess you learn something new every day. Unfortunately, I have an anchor mastopexy. My current PS had no choice because of how I was explanted, this is hard for me.

Hugs,

LMJOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote:

Marie, I think about an hour and a half! I didn’t know you were so close! HMMM. MAybe we can hook up, even with Kathy! If it is fibro, please look at Dr Lowe's site www.drlowe.com

He believes that a severe case of hypothyroidism can in turn cause "FM", and Fm is really long term unsuspected thyroid related issues. If treated properly, you can put it in remission on proper meds. His wellness center in Colorado has healed thousands, and he has written I think at least 3 books on the topic. I have 2. I almost went to him, but used his info for a doc in Valpo, Indiana who did wonders putting me on the correct thyroid meds (acording to Dr Lowe's principles) to get over the thyroid resistance I was having. It happens when your body is unable to take in thyroid hormone at a cellular level, due to toxin backup. Most don’t even show they have thyroid issues on blood work, you may be "fine' on thyroid labs. But, it is not always what level is in your floating around in your blood , but it is what your body is utalizing at the cells, that is important, and they often don’t see. Check out his symptoms list, for

cellular resistance. it may surprise you! I had symptoms of RA totally, and all was attributed to thyroid. Gone.

I will pray for you, and hope you are doing well with all of this. Have you done a lot of detox? Love Re: Re: Photos >Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:25:24 -0700 (PDT) > >: >Hi. Glad your ANAs are gone! > >I have a chronic high WBC--high normal to over normal all the time. >My scalp hurts--feels crawly--I wonder if I have fungus? I'm going to ask the derm tomorrow. I have chronic dandruff. >Hugs, >-Marie > >naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote: >LM >ANA tests are funny, the results can vary so much, my first test was >just barely positive, and so I was not that concerned yet, but then >again in 3 months it was higher, it was it's highest immediately >following explant at 1:640 that is really high, but my Dr explained >the surgery probably dumped

allot of toxins in me. It slowly went >back down and has been negative in the last 3 testings, wich were >over the last 3 years. I am convinced it has not turned positive >again since then. >I also feel good so I know that I am negative. I can now go in the >sun and not get a rash or burn. I tan like I used to. I know I know >everyone says it is bad for you. I just look at the sun differently >in that it is natural and full of vitamin D. I feel good about >getting some color. >I do try to hide my face and yes, I cheat and do tanning salons here >but if you lived in Idaho Falls in Winter you might too, I cover my >face with a towell and tan once a week, it keeps me from getting >depressed from lack of sun light. Our days are very short here in the >winter. >hugs to you LM > > > > > > >In , Jane Doe >wrote: > > Dear : > > Yes, other than going by car to Va. Beach,

Baltimore and NC, I've >been grounded--no flying in over 6 months--that's how sick I got on >the hgh injections. > > > > I'd love to go to Tahiti and Figi too. My friend went there >and loved it. > > > > I avoid the sun and use sunscreens. I first noticed these rashes in >Jan.03, about six weeks after my blepharoplasty/laser surgery. The >rash comes and goes. My ANA is postive but not high on the titer.I'm >going to a dermatologist at GWU tomorrow, I hope they're not a dud. > > Hugs, > > LM > > > > naturalbeauty38 wrote: > > Yes that is a record for you, I remember you were always traveling > > off to somewhere when I first met you. > > I love to travel. It is right up there on my list of favorite >things. > > I want to see Tahiti and Fiji so bad. Those are my dream trips. >Might > > be another year or two before I get there, but I am pretty >determined. > > As for

your rash, I don't recall you mentioning this before. IS it >a > > fairly new thing along with your elevated ANA? Do you notice if it > > gets worse or acts up when your in the sun? > > Let me know, meanwhile I will pray about it tonight. > > Hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , Jane Doe > > wrote: > > > : > > > I have no dates for SLC yet, I'm pretty flexible--depending on my > > part time classes--if I go. I love SLC. I was there in Oct 01 and > > have wanted to go back. I want to go somewhere warm and/or scenic.I > > have not traveled since November, this is a record for me. I just > > want to get my health on track. I'm getting my hormonal and rheumy > > labs done on Wednesday or Thursday. I also have a derm appt. I'm > > getting rashes so I need to check it out--it comes and goes on my > > inner arms

and abdomen--little red spots. > > > Hugs, > > > LM > > > > > > naturalbeauty38 wrote: > > > LM: > > > I also meant to reply to your being in Salt Lake, in October you > > > mentioned. Just let me know what the actual dates are when it >gets > > > closer to that time so that I can see what I can do with my work > > > schedule. > > > Hugs > > > - > > > > > > > > > In , Jane Doe > > > wrote: > > > > Dear : > > > > Hi. I hope you feel better soon. > > > > I'm so glad you had a good time. I wish I had been there. You > > > deserved a nice break with Patty and friends. What a beautiful > > place > > > and you all looked lovely too. I love that pink shirt on you-- > > you're > > > in great shape and looked great! > > > > I want

to meet both you and Patty some time in months to come. >I > > > might go to Salt Lake City in Oct. so if you want to met up >there, > > or > > > sort of near there, let me know. > > > > > > > > I'm heading out now--more hiking. I'm on a ROLL! Thanks for the > > > encouragement--I'm getting hooked! What a healthy addiction! > > > > > > > > naturalbeauty38 wrote: > > > > Hi LM, > > > > To be truthful I don't think it was food poisononing.I think I > > > > actually must of caught the flu. I had a sore throat on >Saturday > > > > morning and then by Sunday am I knew I just was not quite >feeling > > > > right. But It was a fanastc trip. We all had so much fun, and >we > > > all > > > > just hit it off so wonderfully. I think, too, doing something > > like > > > > this where we could blow off

some steam, vent a bit about our > > pain > > > > and talk about things that NO ONE other than other implant > > victims > > > > can relate too, was such a healing experience. I miss all the > > > girls. > > > > TOday I was thinking about how nice it would be to live in the > > same > > > > town with some women from here. It seems that there is never > > anyone > > > > to vent to about this stff who really gets it and it was neat >to > > be > > > > around the girls because they all had the same story, the same > > > > symptoms, the same crappy treatment by Dr's. We all just >couldn't > > > > stop talking. It was funny how we just immediately hit it off > > like > > > > that and from the common bond we all share of course we were > > > instant > > > > friends, actaully more like sisters. > > > >

For Patty and I it has been almost 5 years that I first met >her. > > > When > > > > I think about that it is amazing that it took so long for her >and > > I > > > > to hook up in person at some point in those 4 1/2 years, but it > > did. > > > > Anyhow don't want to just ramhle on here forever so i should >get > > > > going. > > > > I hope that your doing well too! > > > > hugs > > > > -C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , Jane Doe > > > > wrote: > > > > > : > > > > > Hi! Welcome back! I'm glad to hear you had such a good time. >I > > > hope > > > > you feel better from the food poisoning soon, if not, see a doc. > >

> > > > > > > > We'll chat later. > > > > > Hugs, > > > > > LM > > > > > > > > > > naturalbeauty38 wrote: > > > > > Hi Ladies, > > > > > We are back from the get together. Well at least most of us >are > > > by > > > > > this time. Pam and Shari are probably still flying home,but > > > Patty, > > > > > Daryl and I left yesterday and were home last night. > > > Unfortunately > > > > I > > > > > ended up with what I thought was food poisoning, to what I > > think > > > is > > > > > either a flu or the result of a few drinks that I probably > > shold > > > > not > > > > > have had. Either way I ended up leaving work early today > > becasue > > > I > > > > > just felt so crappy. I am resting but

did feel up to posting > > some > > > > > photos of the get together, so you all can at least share the > > > > > experience in some way, with all of us. > > > > > To see the photographs you have to go to the main website for > > > this > > > > > group and then you have to go into the section (which will be > > on > > > > your > > > > > left side, it will say "PHOTOS" click on that and then you >will > > > > have > > > > > to either click on "Show All" or "Next" because they are > > > > > alphabetically in orrder. The photo folder marked "Idaho Get > > > > > together" is where all the photos from this trip are. > > > > > I have only added the ones that I took and oviously the other > > > girls > > > > > have some too. > > > > > At any rate I need to go lay back

down and rest up since I am > > not > > > > > feeling 100% well right now. > > > > > The trip however, was incredible and wonderful. The girls are > > so > > > > > awesome! I am so glad we did this as I feel it was such a > > healing > > > > > thing for us emotionally! > > > > > Anyhow I will try to post more later when I am feeling better. > > > > > Hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 29, 2004

Lm, I id have a lot of hair problems, and the thing that helped the most was getting on the right thyroid dosage (despite normal labs while on thyroid) and also adding flax seed oil to my diet, 2 tablespoons per day. Are you on any omega's? I know what you are feeling, it drove me nuts to have such hair loss.

The lift was a new thing, and worked well. I guess, its all what each woman will do the best with. Why have additional cutting, if you don’t need it? I am sorry about how badly you were explanted, and your scars. Are they very bad? Are you treating the scars with anything? Merderma helped me a lot, along with lots of vitamin E. (orally and on the incision) love

Re: Re: Photos >Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:25:24 -0700 (PDT) > >: >Hi. Glad your ANAs are gone! > >I have a chronic high WBC--high normal to over normal all the time. >My scalp hurts--feels crawly--I wonder if I have fungus? I'm going to ask the derm tomorrow. I have chronic dandruff. >Hugs, >-Marie > >naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote: >LM >ANA tests are funny, the results can vary so much, my first test was >just barely positive, and so I was not that concerned yet, but then >again in 3 months it was higher, it was it's highest immediately >following explant at 1:640 that is really high, but my Dr explained >the surgery probably dumped allot of toxins in me. It slowly went >back down and has been negative in the last 3 testings, wich were >over the last 3 years. I am convinced it has not turned positive >again since then. >I also feel good so I know that I am negative. I can now go in the >sun and not get a rash or burn. I tan like I used to. I know I know >everyone says it is bad for you. I just look at the sun differently >in that it is natural and full of vitamin D. I feel good about >getting some color. >I do try to hide my face and yes, I cheat and do tanning salons here >but if you lived in Idaho Falls in Winter you might too, I cover my >face with a towell and tan once a week, it keeps me from getting >depressed from lack of sun light. Our days are very short here in the >winter. >hugs to you LM > > > > > > >In , Jane Doe >wrote: > > Dear : > > Yes, other than going by car to Va. Beach, Baltimore and NC, I've >been grounded--no flying in over 6 months--that's how sick I got on >the hgh injections. > > > > I'd love to go to Tahiti and Figi too. My friend went there >and loved it. > > > > I avoid the sun and use sunscreens. I first noticed these rashes in >Jan.03, about six weeks after my blepharoplasty/laser surgery. The >rash comes and goes. My ANA is postive but not high on the titer.I'm >going to a dermatologist at GWU tomorrow, I hope they're not a dud. > > Hugs, > > LM > > > > naturalbeauty38 wrote: > > Yes that is a record for you, I remember you were always traveling > > off to somewhere when I first met you. > > I love to travel. It is right up there on my list of favorite >things. > > I want to see Tahiti and Fiji so bad. Those are my dream trips. >Might > > be another year or two before I get there, but I am pretty >determined. > > As for your rash, I don't recall you mentioning this before. IS it >a > > fairly new thing along with your elevated ANA? Do you notice if it > > gets worse or acts up when your in the sun? > > Let me know, meanwhile I will pray about it tonight. > > Hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , Jane Doe > > wrote: > > > : > > > I have no dates for SLC yet, I'm pretty flexible--depending on my > > part time classes--if I go. I love SLC. I was there in Oct 01 and > > have wanted to go back. I want to go somewhere warm and/or scenic.I > > have not traveled since November, this is a record for me. I just > > want to get my health on track. I'm getting my hormonal and rheumy > > labs done on Wednesday or Thursday. I also have a derm appt. I'm > > getting rashes so I need to check it out--it comes and goes on my > > inner arms and abdomen--little red spots. > > > Hugs, > > > LM > > > > > > naturalbeauty38 wrote: > > > LM: > > > I also meant to reply to your being in Salt Lake, in October you > > > mentioned. Just let me know what the actual dates are when it >gets > > > closer to that time so that I can see what I can do with my work > > > schedule. > > > Hugs > > > - > > > > > > > > > In , Jane Doe > > > wrote: > > > > Dear : > > > > Hi. I hope you feel better soon. > > > > I'm so glad you had a good time. I wish I had been there. You > > > deserved a nice break with Patty and friends. What a beautiful > > place > > > and you all looked lovely too. I love that pink shirt on you-- > > you're > > > in great shape and looked great! > > > > I want to meet both you and Patty some time in months to come. >I > > > might go to Salt Lake City in Oct. so if you want to met up >there, > > or > > > sort of near there, let me know. > > > > > > > > I'm heading out now--more hiking. I'm on a ROLL! Thanks for the > > > encouragement--I'm getting hooked! What a healthy addiction! > > > > > > > > naturalbeauty38 wrote: > > > > Hi LM, > > > > To be truthful I don't think it was food poisononing.I think I > > > > actually must of caught the flu. I had a sore throat on >Saturday > > > > morning and then by Sunday am I knew I just was not quite >feeling > > > > right. But It was a fanastc trip. We all had so much fun, and >we > > > all > > > > just hit it off so wonderfully. I think, too, doing something > > like > > > > this where we could blow off some steam, vent a bit about our > > pain > > > > and talk about things that NO ONE other than other implant > > victims > > > > can relate too, was such a healing experience. I miss all the > > > girls. > > > > TOday I was thinking about how nice it would be to live in the > > same > > > > town with some women from here. It seems that there is never > > anyone > > > > to vent to about this stff who really gets it and it was neat >to > > be > > > > around the girls because they all had the same story, the same > > > > symptoms, the same crappy treatment by Dr's. We all just >couldn't > > > > stop talking. It was funny how we just immediately hit it off > > like > > > > that and from the common bond we all share of course we were > > > instant > > > > friends, actaully more like sisters. > > > > For Patty and I it has been almost 5 years that I first met >her. > > > When > > > > I think about that it is amazing that it took so long for her >and > > I > > > > to hook up in person at some point in those 4 1/2 years, but it > > did. > > > > Anyhow don't want to just ramhle on here forever so i should >get > > > > going. > > > > I hope that your doing well too! > > > > hugs > > > > -C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , Jane Doe > > > > wrote: > > > > > : > > > > > Hi! Welcome back! I'm glad to hear you had such a good time. >I > > > hope > > > > you feel better from the food poisoning soon, if not, see a doc. > > > > > > > > > > We'll chat later. > > > > > Hugs, > > > > > LM > > > > > > > > > > naturalbeauty38 wrote: > > > > > Hi Ladies, > > > > > We are back from the get together. Well at least most of us >are > > > by > > > > > this time. Pam and Shari are probably still flying home,but > > > Patty, > > > > > Daryl and I left yesterday and were home last night. > > > Unfortunately > > > > I > > > > > ended up with what I thought was food poisoning, to what I > > think > > > is > > > > > either a flu or the result of a few drinks that I probably > > shold > > > > not > > > > > have had. Either way I ended up leaving work early today > > becasue > > > I > > > > > just felt so crappy. I am resting but did feel up to posting > > some > > > > > photos of the get together, so you all can at least share the > > > > > experience in some way, with all of us. > > > > > To see the photographs you have to go to the main website for > > > this > > > > > group and then you have to go into the section (which will be > > on > > > > your > > > > > left side, it will say "PHOTOS" click on that and then you >will > > > > have > > > > > to either click on "Show All" or "Next" because they are > > > > > alphabetically in orrder. The photo folder marked "Idaho Get > > > > > together" is where all the photos from this trip are. > > > > > I have only added the ones that I took and oviously the other > > > girls > > > > > have some too. > > > > > At any rate I need to go lay back down and rest up since I am > > not > > > > > feeling 100% well right now. > > > > > The trip however, was incredible and wonderful. The girls are > > so > > > > > awesome! I am so glad we did this as I feel it was such a > > healing > > > > > thing for us emotionally! > > > > > Anyhow I will try to post more later when I am feeling better. > > > > > Hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 29, 2004

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Cellular resistance, hmmmm, that sounds interesting. I have to be careful with thyroid meds because I ended up in the ER for meds I didn't need but I'll check this out. Thank you .

Hugs,

LMJane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@...> wrote: