Re: Re: Kolonopin and some anti-depress. can cause hairloss/Lynda

[Guest guest]

Yes, I had not heard of hair loss from these, but I researched it and it

does list it as an uncommon side effect.

What supplements have you ever heard can cause hair loss, as I have not

heard of this either.

I know about hypo- or hyper-thyroid causing this, and many other

conditions. I have heard of some blood pressure medications doing it also,

and I am sure many drugs have side effects I have never heard of.

Lynda

At 08:15 PM 7/23/2004, you wrote:

>Lynda,

>

>Klonopin and xanax and valium are all part of the same family of

>drugs, benzodiazopenes. They really don't have hairloss as a usual

>side effect, however, with ANY medication at all, there is always the

>chance it could produce this or any of a number of other weird side

>effects. I agree though, Lynda that it would be very uncommon for

>this drug to cause hairloss.Particularly any hairloss of great extent.

>If however, someone has hairloss, eliminating as many possible things

>such as meds or even supplements is not a bad idea. Hair loss can def

>be caused by medications. In most people it is not a problem but it

>can def happen to some of us. I know that thyroid problems, hormonal

>issues, autoimmune disease are the most common causes of hairloss so

>often times it is hard to tell if the hairloss is a side effect of

>the meds or the illness that is underlying itself. I have to say that

>having suffered tremendous hairloss myself due to thryoid meds and

>being hyperthroid, i know that it can be pretty quickly reversed,

>within less than 9 months for me for the hair problem to get better.

>I still shed a ton, but my hair is thicker for sure.

>hope this helps.

>hi all love ya

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>In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > Working in a mental health center, hair loss was not anything we

>ever saw

> > from antidepressants. Please send some medical references from

>this and

> > from Klonopin for hair loss. I would like to research this.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> > At 08:17 PM 7/21/2004, you wrote:

> > > Just to warn you all, that a side effect of Kolonopin and SOME

>anti-

> > >depressants is hair loss. Just to let you know. hugs terry

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[Guest guest]

Other drugs that are hair loss culprits include cholesterol lower drugs(Lipitor), retinoids(Accutane), too much Vitamin A, anesthetics, and the most popular culprit: birth control pills, injections (Depo Provera)and implants (Norplant).

According to Harvard dermatologist, Lynn Drake, MD, the leading causes of hair loss in women is poor nutrition/iron stores, drugs, surgery and hormone imbalances, not genetics as in men.

I hope this helps.

LMLynda <coss@...> wrote:

Yes, I had not heard of hair loss from these, but I researched it and it does list it as an uncommon side effect.What supplements have you ever heard can cause hair loss, as I have not heard of this either.I know about hypo- or hyper-thyroid causing this, and many other conditions. I have heard of some blood pressure medications doing it also, and I am sure many drugs have side effects I have never heard of.LyndaAt 08:15 PM 7/23/2004, you wrote:>Lynda,>>Klonopin and xanax and valium are all part of the same family of>drugs, benzodiazopenes. They really don't have hairloss as a usual>side effect, however, with ANY medication at all, there is always the>chance it could produce this or any of a number of other weird side>effects. I agree though, Lynda that it would be very

uncommon for>this drug to cause hairloss.Particularly any hairloss of great extent.>If however, someone has hairloss, eliminating as many possible things>such as meds or even supplements is not a bad idea. Hair loss can def>be caused by medications. In most people it is not a problem but it>can def happen to some of us. I know that thyroid problems, hormonal>issues, autoimmune disease are the most common causes of hairloss so>often times it is hard to tell if the hairloss is a side effect of>the meds or the illness that is underlying itself. I have to say that>having suffered tremendous hairloss myself due to thryoid meds and>being hyperthroid, i know that it can be pretty quickly reversed,>within less than 9 months for me for the hair problem to get better.>I still shed a ton, but my hair is thicker for sure.>hope this helps.>hi all love

ya>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In , Lynda wrote:> > Working in a mental health center, hair loss was not anything we>ever saw> > from antidepressants. Please send some medical references from>this and> > from Klonopin for hair loss. I would like to research this.> >> > Lynda> >> > At 08:17 PM 7/21/2004, you wrote:> > > Just to warn you all, that a side effect of Kolonopin and SOME>anti-> > >depressants is hair loss. Just to let you know. hugs terry> > >>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Not to mention that most of the stuff you mentioned affects your liver. I

would not take Lipitor or other statins. Policosanol and red rice yeast

are great alternatives for lowering cholesterol and do not damage your

liver. Depo Provera really messes with your hormone levels, and I think it

is horiffic that it is pushed on poor women for birth control. Birth

control pills in low doses are not usually related to hair loss, but, as

you said, sometimes....... unusual reactions occur. Norplant is in

silicone, and caused tremendous problems not just from the hormone, but

often breaks and spills too much hormone at once, really messing with your

system.

Do you know of any research on Retin A, the over the counter version of

retinol? Some women do use that. I always feared the sun would cause more

damage if I used it, as it states on the label, stay out of the sun.

Lynda

At 03:53 PM 7/24/2004, you wrote:

>Other drugs that are hair loss culprits include cholesterol lower

>drugs(Lipitor), retinoids(Accutane), too much Vitamin A, anesthetics, and

>the most popular culprit: birth control pills, injections (Depo

>Provera)and implants (Norplant).

>According to Harvard dermatologist, Lynn Drake, MD, the leading causes of

>hair loss in women is poor nutrition/iron stores, drugs, surgery and

>hormone imbalances, not genetics as in men.

>I hope this helps.

>LM

>

>Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>Yes, I had not heard of hair loss from these, but I researched it and it

>does list it as an uncommon side effect.

>

>What supplements have you ever heard can cause hair loss, as I have not

>heard of this either.

>

>I know about hypo- or hyper-thyroid causing this, and many other

>conditions. I have heard of some blood pressure medications doing it also,

>and I am sure many drugs have side effects I have never heard of.

>

>Lynda

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>At 08:15 PM 7/23/2004, you wrote:

> >Lynda,

> >

> >Klonopin and xanax and valium are all part of the same family of

> >drugs, benzodiazopenes. They really don't have hairloss as a usual

> >side effect, however, with ANY medication at all, there is always the

> >chance it could produce this or any of a number of other weird side

> >effects. I agree though, Lynda that it would be very uncommon for

> >this drug to cause hairloss.Particularly any hairloss of great extent.

> >If however, someone has hairloss, eliminating as many possible things

> >such as meds or even supplements is not a bad idea. Hair loss can def

> >be caused by medications. In most people it is not a problem but it

> >can def happen to some of us. I know that thyroid problems, hormonal

> >issues, autoimmune disease are the most common causes of hairloss so

> >often times it is hard to tell if the hairloss is a side effect of

> >the meds or the illness that is underlying itself. I have to say that

> >having suffered tremendous hairloss myself due to thryoid meds and

> >being hyperthroid, i know that it can be pretty quickly reversed,

> >within less than 9 months for me for the hair problem to get better.

> >I still shed a ton, but my hair is thicker for sure.

> >hope this helps.

> >hi all love ya

> >

> >

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> >In , Lynda wrote:

> > > Working in a mental health center, hair loss was not anything we

> >ever saw

> > > from antidepressants. Please send some medical references from

> >this and

> > > from Klonopin for hair loss. I would like to research this.

> > >

> > > Lynda

> > >

> > > At 08:17 PM 7/21/2004, you wrote:

> > > > Just to warn you all, that a side effect of Kolonopin and SOME

> >anti-

> > > >depressants is hair loss. Just to let you know. hugs terry

> > > >

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Hi Lynda:

I don't know anything about OTC retiniods. I just know too much vitamin A can cause TE.

About the lower dose estrogen progestin bcps, they too cause big time TE. Go on keratin.com and hairsite.com and you'll see hundreds of posts from women who had taken Ortho Tri Cyclen, Desogen and Yasmin who are half bald because of going on/off these modern milder bcps and their doctors confirm it (usually). The pills with the a higher androgen component are the worst, but the milder ones (less androgen) are enough to destabilize hormones and cause TE. Even bioidentical hormones and natural hormones can cause hair loss if taken inappropriately or until the body adjusts to the needed treatment.My endo warned me that the natural bioidentical progesterone he prescribed for me can cause shedding. I'm hesitating to take it for that reason. But on the other hand my body must need the progesterone because I have PMS straight out of hell. Progesterone/estrogen/thyroid grow hair and if you don't have enough, hair loss can occur or prevent hair from growing back it you lost it

for other reasons.

HGH is another one.....

Take Care,

-Marie

Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

Not to mention that most of the stuff you mentioned affects your liver. I would not take Lipitor or other statins. Policosanol and red rice yeast are great alternatives for lowering cholesterol and do not damage your liver. Depo Provera really messes with your hormone levels, and I think it is horiffic that it is pushed on poor women for birth control. Birth control pills in low doses are not usually related to hair loss, but, as you said, sometimes....... unusual reactions occur. Norplant is in silicone, and caused tremendous problems not just from the hormone, but often breaks and spills too much hormone at once, really messing with your system.Do you know of any research on Retin A, the over the counter version of retinol? Some women do use that. I always feared the sun would cause more damage if I used it, as it states on the

label, stay out of the sun.LyndaAt 03:53 PM 7/24/2004, you wrote:>Other drugs that are hair loss culprits include cholesterol lower >drugs(Lipitor), retinoids(Accutane), too much Vitamin A, anesthetics, and >the most popular culprit: birth control pills, injections (Depo >Provera)and implants (Norplant).>According to Harvard dermatologist, Lynn Drake, MD, the leading causes of >hair loss in women is poor nutrition/iron stores, drugs, surgery and >hormone imbalances, not genetics as in men.>I hope this helps.>LM>>Lynda wrote:>Yes, I had not heard of hair loss from these, but I researched it and it>does list it as an uncommon side effect.>>What supplements have you ever heard can cause hair loss, as I have not>heard of this either.>>I know about hypo- or hyper-thyroid causing this, and many other>conditions. I have

heard of some blood pressure medications doing it also,>and I am sure many drugs have side effects I have never heard of.>>Lynda>>>>>At 08:15 PM 7/23/2004, you wrote:> >Lynda,> >> >Klonopin and xanax and valium are all part of the same family of> >drugs, benzodiazopenes. They really don't have hairloss as a usual> >side effect, however, with ANY medication at all, there is always the> >chance it could produce this or any of a number of other weird side> >effects. I agree though, Lynda that it would be very uncommon for> >this drug to cause hairloss.Particularly any hairloss of great extent.> >If however, someone has hairloss, eliminating as many possible things> >such as meds or even supplements is not a bad idea. Hair loss can def> >be caused by medications. In most people it is not a problem but it> >can def

happen to some of us. I know that thyroid problems, hormonal> >issues, autoimmune disease are the most common causes of hairloss so> >often times it is hard to tell if the hairloss is a side effect of> >the meds or the illness that is underlying itself. I have to say that> >having suffered tremendous hairloss myself due to thryoid meds and> >being hyperthroid, i know that it can be pretty quickly reversed,> >within less than 9 months for me for the hair problem to get better.> >I still shed a ton, but my hair is thicker for sure.> >hope this helps.> >hi all love ya> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >In , Lynda wrote:> > > Working in a mental health center, hair loss was not anything we> >ever

saw> > > from antidepressants. Please send some medical references from> >this and> > > from Klonopin for hair loss. I would like to research this.> > >> > > Lynda> > >> > > At 08:17 PM 7/21/2004, you wrote:> > > > Just to warn you all, that a side effect of Kolonopin and SOME> >anti-> > > >depressants is hair loss. Just to let you know. hugs terry> > > >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

What does this mean? I did not quite get the gist of this sentence.

There are natural progesterone creams, are those included in the

research? I have not heard of this connection, but I do know that hormone

problems can cause hair growth and loss. Some who took DHEA grew facial

hair, etc.

Lynda

>Progesterone/estrogen/thyroid grow hair and if you don't have enough, hair

>loss can occur or prevent hair from growing back it you lost it for other

>reasons.

At 04:57 PM 7/24/2004, you wrote:

[Guest guest]

You're right, this was not articulated very well.

What I mean is that even bioidentical hormones can cause TE too, not just the synthetics that are not bioidentical, I was told this by me GYN at town U and the derms I've gone to for hair loss.ANY type of hormones can disrupt the endocrine system resulting in hair loss TE--as can metabolic disruptions.

As far as natural hormones, such as OTC progesterone creams (yam cream)--I have no idea!

As for thyroid hormones, all can cause hair loss, even the natural kind like Armour. If the balance/dose is wrong or if you don't need it ( didn't), hair loss can result.Those I've met on line who are truly hypothyroid, seem to fare better on Armour (hair wise), but that's just anecdotal info.

Taking DHEA boosts testosterone, boosted testosterone can lead to virilization and male pattern balding to those susceptible. I won't go near that stuff even thought my DHEAS are low as is my testosterone. I have DHEAS of 35 on a scale from 80-650 a few months ago but now it's 65 on the same scale. My total testosterone as of last month was 21 on a scale from 20-70, free testosterone was below normal.

I hope this was more clear--it's late!Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

What does this mean? I did not quite get the gist of this sentence.There are natural progesterone creams, are those included in the research? I have not heard of this connection, but I do know that hormone problems can cause hair growth and loss. Some who took DHEA grew facial hair, etc.Lynda>Progesterone/estrogen/thyroid grow hair and if you don't have enough, hair >loss can occur or prevent hair from growing back it you lost it for other >reasons.At 04:57 PM 7/24/2004, you wrote:

[Guest guest]

That was one of the things Dr. used to push, DHEA. He tried to

get all the women on it for a while, there. Some had tremendous problems,

growing facial hair, etc.

Did you find any particular type of hair loss in the research, ie., all

over hair loss or alopeica areata?

Lots of the women with implants had alopecia areata. I cannot find

anything that tells the type of hair loss the antidepressant, etc. cause.

Lynda

At 01:25 AM 7/25/2004, you wrote:

>You're right, this was not articulated very well.

>What I mean is that even bioidentical hormones can cause TE too, not just

>the synthetics that are not bioidentical, I was told this by me GYN at

>town U and the derms I've gone to for hair loss.ANY type of hormones

>can disrupt the endocrine system resulting in hair loss TE--as can

>metabolic disruptions.

> As far as natural hormones, such as OTC progesterone creams (yam

> cream)--I have no idea!

>As for thyroid hormones, all can cause hair loss, even the natural kind

>like Armour. If the balance/dose is wrong or if you don't need it (

>didn't), hair loss can result.

>Those I've met on line who are truly hypothyroid, seem to fare better on

>Armour (hair wise), but that's just anecdotal info.

>

>Taking DHEA boosts testosterone, boosted testosterone can lead to

>virilization and male pattern balding to those susceptible. I won't go

>near that stuff even thought my DHEAS are low as is my testosterone. I

>have DHEAS of 35 on a scale from 80-650 a few months ago but now it's 65

>on the same scale. My total testosterone as of last month was 21 on a

>scale from 20-70, free testosterone was below normal.

>I hope this was more clear--it's late!

>Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>What does this mean? I did not quite get the gist of this sentence.

>

>There are natural progesterone creams, are those included in the

>research? I have not heard of this connection, but I do know that hormone

>problems can cause hair growth and loss. Some who took DHEA grew facial

>hair, etc.

>

>Lynda

>

>

> >Progesterone/estrogen/thyroid grow hair and if you don't have enough, hair

> >loss can occur or prevent hair from growing back it you lost it for other

> >reasons.

>At 04:57 PM 7/24/2004, you wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Lynda:

I'm glad you told me because I won't see that guy if dhea is what he pushes. Some women are OK on this, but I fear hair loss more than death so I'm not going there--lol. I'd rather have less energy than virilize.

DHEA as well as other hormone medication, be it bioidentical or regular synthetic can promote a telogen type of hair loss (all over the head and sometimes body) or set in motion androgenic alopecia in susceptible females(crown baldness w/ thicker sides and back of head). Women who get androgen hair loss have issues with testosterone to estrogen ratio--more male hormones than female( Rittmaster,MD)--this type of hair loss is passed on genetically from affected females to females. My friend and her mom and sister have this--it's very sad. She has PCOS, her mother has Cushings and Hypertension and the sister is very Hypothyroid. All have androgen metabolizing conditions and patterned hair loss. The endos I have seen say I don't have this type of hair loss that it's "shock" telogen effluvium.

If you want to read more on hair loss, see www.keratin.com

There are also several dermatologist who publish stuff on hair loss--most of it contradictory and a bit useless. The best I have come across is lit by Lyn Drake at Harvard. Other big names include Haycox, Wilma Bergfeld, Hugh Rushton, Esta Kronberg,Diane Hoss, Rittmaster(endo).

A doc who is supposedly knowledgeable about alopecia areata is Hordinsky at U Minn. Areata can be all over the head/body bald, patches or diffused.

I hope this helps.Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

That was one of the things Dr. used to push, DHEA. He tried to get all the women on it for a while, there. Some had tremendous problems, growing facial hair, etc.Did you find any particular type of hair loss in the research, ie., all over hair loss or alopeica areata?Lots of the women with implants had alopecia areata. I cannot find anything that tells the type of hair loss the antidepressant, etc. cause.LyndaAt 01:25 AM 7/25/2004, you wrote:>You're right, this was not articulated very well.>What I mean is that even bioidentical hormones can cause TE too, not just >the synthetics that are not bioidentical, I was told this by me GYN at >town U and the derms I've gone to for hair loss.ANY type of hormones >can disrupt the endocrine system resulting in hair loss TE--as can

>metabolic disruptions.> As far as natural hormones, such as OTC progesterone creams (yam > cream)--I have no idea!>As for thyroid hormones, all can cause hair loss, even the natural kind >like Armour. If the balance/dose is wrong or if you don't need it ( >didn't), hair loss can result.>Those I've met on line who are truly hypothyroid, seem to fare better on >Armour (hair wise), but that's just anecdotal info.>>Taking DHEA boosts testosterone, boosted testosterone can lead to >virilization and male pattern balding to those susceptible. I won't go >near that stuff even thought my DHEAS are low as is my testosterone. I >have DHEAS of 35 on a scale from 80-650 a few months ago but now it's 65 >on the same scale. My total testosterone as of last month was 21 on a >scale from 20-70, free testosterone was below normal.>I hope this was more clear--it's late!>Lynda

wrote:>What does this mean? I did not quite get the gist of this sentence.>>There are natural progesterone creams, are those included in the>research? I have not heard of this connection, but I do know that hormone>problems can cause hair growth and loss. Some who took DHEA grew facial>hair, etc.>>Lynda>>> >Progesterone/estrogen/thyroid grow hair and if you don't have enough, hair> >loss can occur or prevent hair from growing back it you lost it for other> >reasons.>At 04:57 PM 7/24/2004, you wrote:>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

I know what alopecia areata is, I just asked if the research showed what

type of hair loss comes with these drugs, all over shedding or alopecia areata.

Lynda

At 03:35 PM 7/25/2004, you wrote:

>Lynda:

>I'm glad you told me because I won't see that guy if dhea is what he

>pushes. Some women are OK on this, but I fear hair loss more than death so

>I'm not going there--lol. I'd rather have less energy than virilize.

>

>DHEA as well as other hormone medication, be it bioidentical or regular

>synthetic can promote a telogen type of hair loss (all over the head and

>sometimes body) or set in motion androgenic alopecia in susceptible

>females(crown baldness w/ thicker sides and back of head). Women who get

>androgen hair loss have issues with testosterone to estrogen ratio--more

>male hormones than female( Rittmaster,MD)--this type of hair loss is

>passed on genetically from affected females to females. My friend and her

>mom and sister have this--it's very sad. She has PCOS, her mother has

>Cushings and Hypertension and the sister is very Hypothyroid. All have

>androgen metabolizing conditions and patterned hair loss. The endos I have

>seen say I don't have this type of hair loss that it's " shock " telogen

>effluvium.

>

>If you want to read more on hair loss, see

><http://www.keratin.com>www.keratin.com

>There are also several dermatologist who publish stuff on hair loss--most

>of it contradictory and a bit useless. The best I have come across is lit

>by Lyn Drake at Harvard. Other big names include Haycox, Wilma

>Bergfeld, Hugh Rushton, Esta Kronberg,Diane Hoss, Rittmaster(endo).

>

>A doc who is supposedly knowledgeable about alopecia areata is

>Hordinsky at U Minn. Areata can be all over the head/body bald, patches or

>diffused.

>I hope this helps.

>

>Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>That was one of the things Dr. used to push, DHEA. He tried to

>get all the women on it for a while, there. Some had tremendous problems,

>growing facial hair, etc.

>

>Did you find any particular type of hair loss in the research, ie., all

>over hair loss or alopeica areata?

>

>Lots of the women with implants had alopecia areata. I cannot find

>anything that tells the type of hair loss the antidepressant, etc. cause.

>

>Lynda

>

>

>At 01:25 AM 7/25/2004, you wrote:

> >You're right, this was not articulated very well.

> >What I mean is that even bioidentical hormones can cause TE too, not just

> >the synthetics that are not bioidentical, I was told this by me GYN at

> >town U and the derms I've gone to for hair loss.ANY type of hormones

> >can disrupt the endocrine system resulting in hair loss TE--as can

> >metabolic disruptions.

> > As far as natural hormones, such as OTC progesterone creams (yam

> > cream)--I have no idea!

> >As for thyroid hormones, all can cause hair loss, even the natural kind

> >like Armour. If the balance/dose is wrong or if you don't need it (

> >didn't), hair loss can result.

> >Those I've met on line who are truly hypothyroid, seem to fare better on

> >Armour (hair wise), but that's just anecdotal info.

> >

> >Taking DHEA boosts testosterone, boosted testosterone can lead to

> >virilization and male pattern balding to those susceptible. I won't go

> >near that stuff even thought my DHEAS are low as is my testosterone. I

> >have DHEAS of 35 on a scale from 80-650 a few months ago but now it's 65

> >on the same scale. My total testosterone as of last month was 21 on a

> >scale from 20-70, free testosterone was below normal.

> >I hope this was more clear--it's late!

> >Lynda wrote:

> >What does this mean? I did not quite get the gist of this sentence.

> >

> >There are natural progesterone creams, are those included in the

> >research? I have not heard of this connection, but I do know that hormone

> >problems can cause hair growth and loss. Some who took DHEA grew facial

> >hair, etc.

> >

> >Lynda

> >

> >

> > >Progesterone/estrogen/thyroid grow hair and if you don't have enough, hair

> > >loss can occur or prevent hair from growing back it you lost it for other

> > >reasons.

> >At 04:57 PM 7/24/2004, you wrote:

> >

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