I AM HOME and hope you will all take a moment to read my somewhat legnthy post

[Guest guest]

Hey girls I am back home. Yep ya all can get ready for my lenghty

messages, which I am so sure you all missed so much ha ha ha.

Seriously I hope that you did all miss me a litte bit???? It is nice

to think you all did. Even if I do talk too much.

My trip was really a good trip other than the fact that things with

my daugther are not any better. She is just at that age where all

that matters is her freinds. So for that reason allot of the things

we had tried to plan to do and to include her in fell apart. We did

get her to Montery to the beautiful but pricey aquarium. Has anyone

else ever been there? It is really cool but so many people it is kind

of hard to see the fishes and things. Probably would have been better

to do on a Weekday.

We also did get her to go to Stinson Beach, which was gorgeous (it is

right across the golden gate bridge) but worlds away from the hubub

of San Francisco. I also took my niece along (she is only 14 and

already having sex and it is really hard for me cause I wanted to

shake her and tell her to stop) man what a world we live in ya know.

And the other big family thing we did was the little ferry boat trip

and tour of Alcatraz prison. That was really cool. I lived in the Bay

area my whole entire life and that was the first time I ever got out

there. I was bummed my sister did not end up coming, esp since we had

bought and resevered her a spot. She said she was too anxious to be

around crowds. TO me she said she is not sick and that it is just

depression and anxiety (which she has had for years) but my hubby

overheard her telling my mom that she could not remember the last

time she did not feel like she had the flu. I can only assume she

won't talk to me about it cause she assumes I will tell her it is her

implants. At any rate she puts on a great act, but hey how many of us

here all did that??? Plaster that smile on and when people ask you

how you feel you want to scream " LIKE CRAP " or worse, instead you

say " I feel fine "

I did make my peace with the whole thing, yes it was hard to see her

with implants but I feel I am pretty much over my boob envy, and I

sure don't envy being her with those silicone gel implants in my body

doing who knows what to her health.

Anyhow it feels good to be home, it was a fun trip but also stressful

with my daughter constantly on the phone to her friends and seeing my

sister all nervous and my mom seeming kind of weirded out on the

whole thing too.It was very strange, so yeah, good to be back in

Idaho for me. I love my family but I don't miss living in that

overcrowded part of this Country at all. I never EVER thought I could

leave California, and now i realize how much i truly love Idaho.

I need to get a few hours of free time to read all the posts and see

if there is anyone that I can help, ya know me, always wanting to

help.

I have been praying girls, allot, and praying that you all have seen

my change and that god is helping to giude me to be a better person,

a better friend and a better source of support on this site.

God is working through each and everyone one of us here, I firmly

believe that. I also believe that my opinions are not always right,

or the only way, and that even when I believe strongly in something

that does not mean I have to shove MY BELIEFS OR OPINIONS down anyone

else's throat.I really love to help people, and try to share the

knowledge that I do have, I just want to do it in a gentler way.

So with that being said, and me feeling about as happy, content,

healthy and wonderful as I could ever ask to feel I am going to wrap

up my little message and just say that I really love you all, your a

wonderful group of strong,beautiful women and I feel priveledged and

honored to be a part of your lives.

hugs to all

[Guest guest]

:

WELCOME HOME!

Hugs,

LMnaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

Hey girls I am back home. Yep ya all can get ready for my lenghty messages, which I am so sure you all missed so much ha ha ha.Seriously I hope that you did all miss me a litte bit???? It is nice to think you all did. Even if I do talk too much.My trip was really a good trip other than the fact that things with my daugther are not any better. She is just at that age where all that matters is her freinds. So for that reason allot of the things we had tried to plan to do and to include her in fell apart. We did get her to Montery to the beautiful but pricey aquarium. Has anyone else ever been there? It is really cool but so many people it is kind of hard to see the fishes and things. Probably would have been better to do on a Weekday.We also did get her to go to Stinson Beach, which was gorgeous (it is right across the golden gate

bridge) but worlds away from the hubub of San Francisco. I also took my niece along (she is only 14 and already having sex and it is really hard for me cause I wanted to shake her and tell her to stop) man what a world we live in ya know. And the other big family thing we did was the little ferry boat trip and tour of Alcatraz prison. That was really cool. I lived in the Bay area my whole entire life and that was the first time I ever got out there. I was bummed my sister did not end up coming, esp since we had bought and resevered her a spot. She said she was too anxious to be around crowds. TO me she said she is not sick and that it is just depression and anxiety (which she has had for years) but my hubby overheard her telling my mom that she could not remember the last time she did not feel like she had the flu. I can only assume she won't talk to me about it cause she assumes I will tell her it is her implants. At any rate

she puts on a great act, but hey how many of us here all did that??? Plaster that smile on and when people ask you how you feel you want to scream "LIKE CRAP" or worse, instead you say "I feel fine"I did make my peace with the whole thing, yes it was hard to see her with implants but I feel I am pretty much over my boob envy, and I sure don't envy being her with those silicone gel implants in my body doing who knows what to her health.Anyhow it feels good to be home, it was a fun trip but also stressful with my daughter constantly on the phone to her friends and seeing my sister all nervous and my mom seeming kind of weirded out on the whole thing too.It was very strange, so yeah, good to be back in Idaho for me. I love my family but I don't miss living in that overcrowded part of this Country at all. I never EVER thought I could leave California, and now i realize how much i truly love Idaho.I need to get a few hours of

free time to read all the posts and see if there is anyone that I can help, ya know me, always wanting to help.I have been praying girls, allot, and praying that you all have seen my change and that god is helping to giude me to be a better person, a better friend and a better source of support on this site.God is working through each and everyone one of us here, I firmly believe that. I also believe that my opinions are not always right, or the only way, and that even when I believe strongly in something that does not mean I have to shove MY BELIEFS OR OPINIONS down anyone else's throat.I really love to help people, and try to share the knowledge that I do have, I just want to do it in a gentler way.So with that being said, and me feeling about as happy, content, healthy and wonderful as I could ever ask to feel I am going to wrap up my little message and just say that I really love you all, your a wonderful group of

strong,beautiful women and I feel priveledged and honored to be a part of your lives.hugs to all

[Guest guest]

,

This post reminded me of our emails from a few months ago! I have

missed chatting with you and the other ladies here. I'm sure it's so

hard on you to have your sister get breast implants. It would feel

like a punch in the face if mine got them after everything that's

happened to me. And then another punch when they wanted to hide

their symptoms from me...just because they think I'd be mean and " I

told you so " about it (which you and I would both never do...it

would more likely be us ready and willing to help out and in tears

because they actually wanted to talk to " us " about it).

And I really understand what you meant about wanting to shake your

14 year old daughter for being sexually active at a young age.

There's so much I could say on this subject...and hopefully one day,

I'll be able to help young people with this issue as well...boy do I

seem to get the tough stuff This issue, however, will be

EXTREMELY hard for me to talk about....I should probably get married

first, so I can refer to everything in terms of the " far and ancient

past " She'll come around. The best thing you can do for her is

what you've already done: take her on trips and show her the world.

Let her see that there's so much out there and that she needs to

experience so many things before OTHER STUFF could get in the way

(i.e., not-good-for-you boyfriends, and teenage pregnancies...not to

mention lovely STDs). Did you know that 2/3 of people that have STDs

will be diagnosed with them before the age of 25? Pretty scary. And

it's something like 25,000 people will be diagnosed with an STD this

year! And! Boys/Men are often carriers...the women are the ones that

will be affected and experience the symptoms. That's a completely

different subject, though.

I'm so happy that you got to travel! And it sounds like you did some

soul-searching and mind-clearing while you were there You sound

renewed and rejuvenated and it is so nice to have you back!

Kacey

> Hey girls I am back home. Yep ya all can get ready for my lenghty

> messages, which I am so sure you all missed so much ha ha ha.

> Seriously I hope that you did all miss me a litte bit???? It is

nice

> to think you all did. Even if I do talk too much.

> My trip was really a good trip other than the fact that things

with

> my daugther are not any better. She is just at that age where all

> that matters is her freinds. So for that reason allot of the

things

> we had tried to plan to do and to include her in fell apart. We

did

> get her to Montery to the beautiful but pricey aquarium. Has

anyone

> else ever been there? It is really cool but so many people it is

kind

> of hard to see the fishes and things. Probably would have been

better

> to do on a Weekday.

> We also did get her to go to Stinson Beach, which was gorgeous (it

is

> right across the golden gate bridge) but worlds away from the

hubub

> of San Francisco. I also took my niece along (she is only 14 and

> already having sex and it is really hard for me cause I wanted to

> shake her and tell her to stop) man what a world we live in ya

know.

> And the other big family thing we did was the little ferry boat

trip

> and tour of Alcatraz prison. That was really cool. I lived in the

Bay

> area my whole entire life and that was the first time I ever got

out

> there. I was bummed my sister did not end up coming, esp since we

had

> bought and resevered her a spot. She said she was too anxious to

be

> around crowds. TO me she said she is not sick and that it is just

> depression and anxiety (which she has had for years) but my hubby

> overheard her telling my mom that she could not remember the last

> time she did not feel like she had the flu. I can only assume she

> won't talk to me about it cause she assumes I will tell her it is

her

> implants. At any rate she puts on a great act, but hey how many of

us

> here all did that??? Plaster that smile on and when people ask you

> how you feel you want to scream " LIKE CRAP " or worse, instead you

> say " I feel fine "

> I did make my peace with the whole thing, yes it was hard to see

her

> with implants but I feel I am pretty much over my boob envy, and I

> sure don't envy being her with those silicone gel implants in my

body

> doing who knows what to her health.

> Anyhow it feels good to be home, it was a fun trip but also

stressful

> with my daughter constantly on the phone to her friends and seeing

my

> sister all nervous and my mom seeming kind of weirded out on the

> whole thing too.It was very strange, so yeah, good to be back in

> Idaho for me. I love my family but I don't miss living in that

> overcrowded part of this Country at all. I never EVER thought I

could

> leave California, and now i realize how much i truly love Idaho.

> I need to get a few hours of free time to read all the posts and

see

> if there is anyone that I can help, ya know me, always wanting to

> help.

> I have been praying girls, allot, and praying that you all have

seen

> my change and that god is helping to giude me to be a better

person,

> a better friend and a better source of support on this site.

> God is working through each and everyone one of us here, I firmly

> believe that. I also believe that my opinions are not always

right,

> or the only way, and that even when I believe strongly in

something

> that does not mean I have to shove MY BELIEFS OR OPINIONS down

anyone

> else's throat.I really love to help people, and try to share the

> knowledge that I do have, I just want to do it in a gentler way.

> So with that being said, and me feeling about as happy, content,

> healthy and wonderful as I could ever ask to feel I am going to

wrap

> up my little message and just say that I really love you all, your

a

> wonderful group of strong,beautiful women and I feel priveledged

and

> honored to be a part of your lives.

> hugs to all

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome back ! It sounds like you had a great trip, but I do hope your issues with your daughter and sister get resolved. The teen years are so hard....

Keeping you and those situations in prayer girlfriend....

Pattynaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

Hey girls I am back home. Yep ya all can get ready for my lenghty messages, which I am so sure you all missed so much ha ha ha.Seriously I hope that you did all miss me a litte bit???? It is nice to think you all did. Even if I do talk too much.My trip was really a good trip other than the fact that things with my daugther are not any better. She is just at that age where all that matters is her freinds. So for that reason allot of the things we had tried to plan to do and to include her in fell apart. We did get her to Montery to the beautiful but pricey aquarium. Has anyone else ever been there? It is really cool but so many people it is kind of hard to see the fishes and things. Probably would have been better to do on a Weekday.We also did get her to go to Stinson Beach, which was gorgeous (it is right across the golden gate

bridge) but worlds away from the hubub of San Francisco. I also took my niece along (she is only 14 and already having sex and it is really hard for me cause I wanted to shake her and tell her to stop) man what a world we live in ya know. And the other big family thing we did was the little ferry boat trip and tour of Alcatraz prison. That was really cool. I lived in the Bay area my whole entire life and that was the first time I ever got out there. I was bummed my sister did not end up coming, esp since we had bought and resevered her a spot. She said she was too anxious to be around crowds. TO me she said she is not sick and that it is just depression and anxiety (which she has had for years) but my hubby overheard her telling my mom that she could not remember the last time she did not feel like she had the flu. I can only assume she won't talk to me about it cause she assumes I will tell her it is her implants. At any

rate she puts on a great act, but hey how many of us here all did that??? Plaster that smile on and when people ask you how you feel you want to scream "LIKE CRAP" or worse, instead you say "I feel fine"I did make my peace with the whole thing, yes it was hard to see her with implants but I feel I am pretty much over my boob envy, and I sure don't envy being her with those silicone gel implants in my body doing who knows what to her health.Anyhow it feels good to be home, it was a fun trip but also stressful with my daughter constantly on the phone to her friends and seeing my sister all nervous and my mom seeming kind of weirded out on the whole thing too.It was very strange, so yeah, good to be back in Idaho for me. I love my family but I don't miss living in that overcrowded part of this Country at all. I never EVER thought I could leave California, and now i realize how much i truly love Idaho.I need to get a few hours

of free time to read all the posts and see if there is anyone that I can help, ya know me, always wanting to help.I have been praying girls, allot, and praying that you all have seen my change and that god is helping to giude me to be a better person, a better friend and a better source of support on this site.God is working through each and everyone one of us here, I firmly believe that. I also believe that my opinions are not always right, or the only way, and that even when I believe strongly in something that does not mean I have to shove MY BELIEFS OR OPINIONS down anyone else's throat.I really love to help people, and try to share the knowledge that I do have, I just want to do it in a gentler way.So with that being said, and me feeling about as happy, content, healthy and wonderful as I could ever ask to feel I am going to wrap up my little message and just say that I really love you all, your a wonderful group of

strong,beautiful women and I feel priveledged and honored to be a part of your lives.hugs to all__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

, wlecome back sweetie! Love

>From: Trish Trish <harvest2harvest@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: I AM HOME and hope you will all take a moment to read my somewhat legnthy post >Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:34:32 -0700 (PDT) > >Welcome back ! It sounds like you had a great trip, but I do hope your issues with your daughter and sister get resolved. The teen years are so hard.... >Keeping you and those situations in prayer girlfriend.... >Patty > >naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote: >Hey girls I am back home. Yep ya all can get ready for my lenghty >messages, which I am so sure you all missed so much ha ha ha. >Seriously I hope that you did all miss me a litte bit???? It is nice >to think you all did. Even if I do talk too much. >My trip was really a good trip other than the fact that things with >my daugther are not any better. She is just at that age where all >that matters is her freinds. So for that reason allot of the things >we had tried to plan to do and to include her in fell apart. We did >get her to Montery to the beautiful but pricey aquarium. Has anyone >else ever been there? It is really cool but so many people it is kind >of hard to see the fishes and things. Probably would have been better >to do on a Weekday. >We also did get her to go to Stinson Beach, which was gorgeous (it is >right across the golden gate bridge) but worlds away from the hubub >of San Francisco. I also took my niece along (she is only 14 and >already having sex and it is really hard for me cause I wanted to >shake her and tell her to stop) man what a world we live in ya know. >And the other big family thing we did was the little ferry boat trip >and tour of Alcatraz prison. That was really cool. I lived in the Bay >area my whole entire life and that was the first time I ever got out >there. I was bummed my sister did not end up coming, esp since we had >bought and resevered her a spot. She said she was too anxious to be >around crowds. TO me she said she is not sick and that it is just >depression and anxiety (which she has had for years) but my hubby >overheard her telling my mom that she could not remember the last >time she did not feel like she had the flu. I can only assume she >won't talk to me about it cause she assumes I will tell her it is her >implants. At any rate she puts on a great act, but hey how many of us >here all did that??? Plaster that smile on and when people ask you >how you feel you want to scream "LIKE CRAP" or worse, instead you >say "I feel fine" >I did make my peace with the whole thing, yes it was hard to see her >with implants but I feel I am pretty much over my boob envy, and I >sure don't envy being her with those silicone gel implants in my body >doing who knows what to her health. >Anyhow it feels good to be home, it was a fun trip but also stressful >with my daughter constantly on the phone to her friends and seeing my >sister all nervous and my mom seeming kind of weirded out on the >whole thing too.It was very strange, so yeah, good to be back in >Idaho for me. I love my family but I don't miss living in that >overcrowded part of this Country at all. I never EVER thought I could >leave California, and now i realize how much i truly love Idaho. >I need to get a few hours of free time to read all the posts and see >if there is anyone that I can help, ya know me, always wanting to >help. >I have been praying girls, allot, and praying that you all have seen >my change and that god is helping to giude me to be a better person, >a better friend and a better source of support on this site. >God is working through each and everyone one of us here, I firmly >believe that. I also believe that my opinions are not always right, >or the only way, and that even when I believe strongly in something >that does not mean I have to shove MY BELIEFS OR OPINIONS down anyone >else's throat.I really love to help people, and try to share the >knowledge that I do have, I just want to do it in a gentler way. >So with that being said, and me feeling about as happy, content, >healthy and wonderful as I could ever ask to feel I am going to wrap >up my little message and just say that I really love you all, your a >wonderful group of strong,beautiful women and I feel priveledged and >honored to be a part of your lives. >hugs to all > >__________________________________________________ >

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

It is good to be home, though today I had an unusual headache that

sent me home from work. It was funny cause I have been feeling

wonderful lately. I think lack of sleep set it off and then the

florescent lights at work sent me over the edge. I feel better now

after coming home and eating some food and napping about an hour.

I feel guilty for leaving work, but shoot, I was getting the worse

headache along with nausea and new the only thing that was going to

get rid of it was a nap in a dark room. It has been hot as hell since

we got home and the nights have been hard to sleep cuase of it and

then the fact that I was off work for 10 days in California and we

were up late every night and slept in till at least 8 or 9 am

everyday and now I have been getting up at 5 and 5:15 to work eachday.

I am still wanting to do that detox and was thinking i would start it

on The Sunday after my Birthday. My birthday is the 2nd which is

Monday and My hubby's is the 4th and I think I am going to be going

away the weekend after our B days since we are just too pooped to do

it this weekend. I want to go down to Salt Lake and hit my fav store

express for new fall clothes. We do it every year, stay in our fav

hotel with the big jetted tub and firplace etc, then we eat at that

killer restauraunt in Logan that has all the wonderful Grass fed

hormone free beef and organic chicken and fresh seafood flown in

daily. I wanted to do it this weekend but I just feel my body is

telling me to rest up.

I was wondering what you think the best way for me to stop caffeine

would be right now?

I have to confess in California every morning I would set off to

Starbucks and got very addicted to their low fat frapacino's with an

extra shot of espresso and vanilla, YUM, but very full of caffiene no

doubt. I also drank some red bulls and mountain dew which Is not my

normal routing but we were doing some stuff that required serious

stamina and energy, ha ha ha dealing with 5 kids and sometimes an

extra one or two friends of my daughters. So now I have begun to cut

back to just my sugar free Chai and that could be why I got the

headache today come to think of it, hmm?

Anyhow I am sure by one week from this Sunday I can hace myself

weaned off ot it so as to not have really bad withdrawls while I

detox. I have been eating alot of sugar too, cake and stuff like that

in California. I also had some pie last night, too bad ! It was yummy

though and for our B days I want to make a yummy extra rich special

treat so that is what I am dealing with. Doing all this bad stuff

before I start to detox for awhile.

Is it bad to eat so much crap the week before a detox or should I

wait longer than a few days to do it?

Let me know, since you and Patty both know more about this stuff than

I do.

thanks

In , " JOSEPH PALANCA " <juliejp61@m...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

So you don’t react much to detox and prepare better, I would (personal opinion) , try to eat really good, you knoww tons of fruits and veggies and only water for at least 3 days before, (really a week would be ideal) love Re: I AM HOME and hope you will all take a moment to read my somewhat legnthy post

Thanks ,It is good to be home, though today I had an unusual headache that sent me home from work. It was funny cause I have been feeling wonderful lately. I think lack of sleep set it off and then the florescent lights at work sent me over the edge. I feel better now after coming home and eating some food and napping about an hour.I feel guilty for leaving work, but shoot, I was getting the worse headache along with nausea and new the only thing that was going to get rid of it was a nap in a dark room. It has been hot as hell since we got home and the nights have been hard to sleep cuase of it and then the fact that I was off work for 10 days in California and we were up late every night and slept in till at least 8 or 9 am everyday and now I have been getting up at 5 and 5:15 to work eachday.I am still wanting to do that detox and was thinking i would start it on The Sunday after my Birthday. My birthday is the 2nd which is Monday and My hubby's is the 4th and I think I am going to be going away the weekend after our B days since we are just too pooped to do it this weekend. I want to go down to Salt Lake and hit my fav store express for new fall clothes. We do it every year, stay in our fav hotel with the big jetted tub and firplace etc, then we eat at that killer restauraunt in Logan that has all the wonderful Grass fed hormone free beef and organic chicken and fresh seafood flown in daily. I wanted to do it this weekend but I just feel my body is telling me to rest up. I was wondering what you think the best way for me to stop caffeine would be right now?I have to confess in California every morning I would set off to Starbucks and got very addicted to their low fat frapacino's with an extra shot of espresso and vanilla, YUM, but very full of caffiene no doubt. I also drank some red bulls and mountain dew which Is not my normal routing but we were doing some stuff that required serious stamina and energy, ha ha ha dealing with 5 kids and sometimes an extra one or two friends of my daughters. So now I have begun to cut back to just my sugar free Chai and that could be why I got the headache today come to think of it, hmm?Anyhow I am sure by one week from this Sunday I can hace myself weaned off ot it so as to not have really bad withdrawls while I detox. I have been eating alot of sugar too, cake and stuff like that in California. I also had some pie last night, too bad ! It was yummy though and for our B days I want to make a yummy extra rich special treat so that is what I am dealing with. Doing all this bad stuff before I start to detox for awhile.Is it bad to eat so much crap the week before a detox or should I wait longer than a few days to do it?Let me know, since you and Patty both know more about this stuff than I do.thanksIn , "JOSEPH PALANCA" <juliejp61@m...> wrote:>