Implants-LM and anyone else who cares

[Guest guest]

I would be happy to speak on the issue of mastectomy

reconstruction - implants vs. other modalities...I had a

mastectomy and was forced to decide between saline and

silicone...yes, silicone. No other options were

'available' to me. At this time silicone can ONLY be used

in a case of breast cancer, but if 'some' plastic surgeons

have their way, silicone would be back on the market for

all.

Gayle

--- Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@...> wrote:

> :

> Hi. I'd like to do something about mastopexy education in

> a big way but don't know how to go about this exactly. I

> need your help.

> Of all of the women I met on line AOL chat mostly, their

> premise for seeking BA or having undergone a BA procedure

> has been by and large, due to ptosis. I'd like to address

> this issue both on and off the group. I feel if their was

> more education out there on alternatives to BA, there

> would be less of them. As for the issue of small breasts,

> I think women are lucky to be born small breasted but

> many might disagree with that so this topic is not so

> convincing I'm afraid.

> As for survivors of breast cancer,truthfully, I'd feel

> uncomfortable dissuading women in this situation who have

> been mastectomized. I feel I'd be speaking out of school

> on this issue. For that reason, I feel most comfortable

> and feel I can be effective in shifting focus off BA and

> on to mastopexy for ptosis women especially.

>

> What are you thoughts, or anyone else's?

> Love,

> LM

>

>

> naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

> Ya see what I am saying, I believe the number of women

> who get online

> like us and talk about what we do is growing, but still

> just a

> handful of the women out there with real problems. And of

> those with

> problems even a smaller handful that correlate any of it

> to the

> implants, therefore it makes sense to asume that the

> patients not

> complaining is not helping our cause and when someone

> does complain

> it is not very often therefore how do the Dr's even know

> that the

> problems are so rampant.

> I think the biggest work we have to do is to spread the

> word that

> implants cause these issues and then get those women to

> at least come

> forward with their complaints. They may not be able to

> remove the

> damn things but at least look at the facts and talk about

> it.

> I wish big breasts were not so important to us all. I am

> so glad i am

> mostly over that, I mean to this day I have about 1% of

> me that caves

> in to boob envy occasionally. But not of implants EVER,

> just maybe of

> my girlfriends that have nice real boobs.

> I hate implants, I hate the way they look and feel and

> think they are

> so ugly. MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT HAD I KNOWN THEY

> FELT LIKE ROCKS

> AND WERE SO HARD AND UGLE I NEVER WOULD HAVE GOT THEM.

> hugs

> C

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In , Jane Doe

> wrote:

> > :

> > This is only one e-mail friend I have from AOL but an

> example of

> how sometimes patients don't let their docs know what's

> going on with

> them. My friend got her implants in land, had to be

> re implanted

> 2x because of CC and now has no breast tissue left.I

> suggested

> mastopexy, she claims there is no more tissue to make a

> mastopexy.

> She's got FMS, she does believe her implants made her

> sick, but won't

> part with them. She's now in AZ and is getting a new set.

> I asked her

> what her PS though about her getting implants with FMS,

> she said she

> doesn't know what he thinks because she never told him.

> She stated

> that her health is " none of his business " and that all he

> needs to

> worry about is getting the job done right.

> > Her mainstream rheumy suggested implant removal to be

> on the safe

> side, she won't do it--she's adamant. Whatever.

> >

> > I'm with you on making mastopexy a trend, providing the

> patient is

> in good health and goes to a great PS. There are risks

> with that too--

> but it beats implants!

> > Hugs,

> > LM

> >

> > naturalbeauty38 wrote:

> > Lynda your statements can and are often taken out of

> context

> possibly

> > because the way your wording them. Which is what led

> both LM and I

> to

> > think you were refering to one of us as for this

> brainwashing

> thing.

> > I mean you can say whatever you want, but again in the

> post I am

> > replying to here your saying that most of the

> population thinks

> that

> > medical Dr's are god.I agree with that, but I also see

> that many

> > people actually treat Dr's with a good deal of contempt

> these days.

> > Anyhow I think there are allot of people with the

> misconception

> that

> > Dr's know everything. This is simply not true. There

> are good and

> bad

> > Dr's just like there are good and bad Teachers, good

> and bad police

> > officers etc. The fact is that because we all had bad

> experiences

> it

> > is easy to blame all Dr's when in fact the real crooks

> are the

> > manufacturers. Drs are simply filling the need that

> exists,

> > unfortunatly as long as there are women lining up to

> get implants,

> > there will be dr's there to put them in happily. It is

> sad, it is

> > sick and until something in our society changes that is

> the way it

> is.

> > If lifts became the big fad and no one wanted implants

> anymore Dr's

> > would be learning and studying how to do better lifts.

> It is that

> age

> > old phenomenon called supply and demand. Where there is

> the demand

> > there is the supply.

> > The Dr;s have often been mislead just like the patients

> that these

> > devices are wonderful bla bla blah. I agree that by now

> these Dr's

> > should know better after seeing so many of us come back

> ill. The

> > other problem now is that allot of women refuse to

> admit they are

> ill

> > from implants or even to complain to the PS about what

> is going on

> > with them. There fore I believe that many PS's don't

> know that

> their

> > patients are having problmems. Many of us did go back

> to them and

> > that is good, if only more would stick up for

> themselves such as my

> > own sister, then more and more of them might start to

> believe that

> > the implants really do cause disease.

> > Anyhow I got a bit off track here.

> > I am glad that we can all agree at least on one thing,

> that there

> is

> > good and bad in all and that we, the patient, the

> consumer have to

> > take a certain responsibility in making sure that

> whatever we do to

> > our bodies we are completely 100% informed. I was naive

> and stupid

> > when I got my implants, and that is why I made sure

> before I took

> > them out that i was educated and new exactly what was

> going to

> happen

> > upon removal. I will never ever again let another

> surgeon touch me

> > without completely researching and getting different

> opinons etc so

> I

> > have learned a very valuable lesson through this.

> > take care

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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