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You might try looking up the abmd list, because there has been quite a bit of

discussion about transfer factor. The kind they were talking about is made

by 4Life. I haven't yet used it, so I can't comment, although I'm

considering trying it.

Elise

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I am also interested in transfer factor but I'm a little confused.

Some places offer what they call transfer factor which is bovine

colostrum. And that colostrum contains basic immune factors. I

already have my son on this from Kirkman Labs which I believe is the

best one on the market. But I've also read a research paper from

Italy on human transfer factor, cultered from cells in the lab to

address specific immune deficiencies. There is only one web site

that I've found which offers human transfactor and it's in Italy. The

only relevent product they offer is a basic allergy formula. Do you

have any other info on this?

Thanks,

> Listmates,

> For those using transfer factor, do you order the product

directly from

> 4Life on the internet or do you go in person to the building off of

the

> freeway? I would like to try it with Austin and want to know what

is the

> most economical way to order it. Thanks, Kara

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I am also interested in transfer factor but I'm a little confused.

Some places offer what they call transfer factor which is bovine

colostrum. And that colostrum contains basic immune factors. I

already have my son on this from Kirkman Labs which I believe is the

best one on the market. But I've also read a research paper from

Italy on human transfer factor, cultered from cells in the lab to

address specific immune deficiencies. There is only one web site

that I've found which offers human transfactor and it's in Italy. The

only relevent product they offer is a basic allergy formula. Do you

have any other info on this?

Thanks,

There is another egroups group that deals with transfer

factor. from what i've seen more seem to have been helped by the

colostrum type(a special version of it) than the serum type. but I

haven't followed it closely.

Bernie

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I posted not too long ago this. A brief summary for those who missed

it. I joined the transfactor forum some time ago to learn more

about transfactor in general. What I learned at the time was that

all the impressive stuff happened from human and all the stuff on the

market is bovine (or chicken).

I have also been monitoring that group, and most of the

posts i've seen said the human type transfer factor had not helped much,

and more I saw said the colostrum based helped more. but some were

helped and I don't know the overall statistics.

No one has posted such there that I'm aware of. If it works or helps

thats good, but the verdict is clear yet as far as I can see. Anybody

else know more about it?

Bernie

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Hi Bernie,

Looking back at my post, it DOES look like I meant that I had gotten

the human studies info from the transfactor forum. I was trying to

be brief. What I should have said was that at the time in my

researching that I was going through the archives in the transfactor

forum, I was also looking up papers on human transfactor studies.

(You were the person who turned me on to the transfactor site when I

first started delving into this-thanks again.) As to the discussions

there, you are absolutely right, there are very few references to

human at all. Almost all of the discussion is about bovine (although

if you go back in the early archives, there are several posts about

transfactor derived from chicken, too) I wondered how the

transfactor was obtained from chickens-perhaps tissue cultured (based

on the premise that chicken tissue is abundant?) I don't have a clue

and it never was discussed. But since I have not run across any

chicken based products out there, I assume it was not a great

success; whereas the bovine-derived products are everywhere.

Anyway, the human studies are few and difficult to find. There are

only 3 that I have run across (one was from Italy) I wish I had

saved them. The only human antigen specific transfactor that I have

seen marketed is also from a lab in Italy-don't know if there's a

connection. It makes several types, one for candida, one for

allergies, one for chlamydia and one for genital warts (if memory

serves) There were some impressive results there. In organizing my

favorite sites, I deleted it and have searched again but can't find

it -which is making me nuts. (If you run across it,or anything else

on human TF, will you please forward it to me?)

I feel the immunity issue is the major player in my son's case. He

has no 'medical necessity' for IVIG so my insurance won't cover it.

As the dose is based on weight, my son's dosage would cost $30,000 a

pop (according to the nurse at Bradstreet's office) for anywhere from

6-18 doses! I know that would fix my son right up but it's a bit

beyond our budget!

And the human t-cell studies in are not looking great, either.

So...we'll continue with the bovine (which looks to be the best thing

out there, all things considered) and await further breakthroughs.

I know that there are others looking into this and I eagerly await

their posts.

N.--- In @y..., Bernard Windham <berniew1@e...>

wrote:

>

> I posted not too long ago this. A brief summary for those who missed

> it. I joined the transfactor forum some time ago to learn more

> about transfactor in general. What I learned at the time was that

> all the impressive stuff happened from human and all the stuff on

the

> market is bovine (or chicken).

>

>

> I have also been monitoring that group, and most of

the

> posts i've seen said the human type transfer factor had not helped

much,

> and more I saw said the colostrum based helped more. but some were

> helped and I don't know the overall statistics.

> No one has posted such there that I'm aware of. If it works or

helps

> thats good, but the verdict is clear yet as far as I can see.

Anybody

> else know more about it?

> Bernie

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Hi ,

The lab you posted has the TF to order already.

They have 8 types of TF.

Thanks,

Vera

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> >

> > I posted not too long ago this. A brief summary for those who

missed

> > it. I joined the transfactor forum some time ago to learn more

> > about transfactor in general. What I learned at the time was that

> > all the impressive stuff happened from human and all the stuff on

> the

> > market is bovine (or chicken).

> >

> >

> > I have also been monitoring that group, and most of

> the

> > posts i've seen said the human type transfer factor had not helped

> much,

> > and more I saw said the colostrum based helped more. but some

were

> > helped and I don't know the overall statistics.

> > No one has posted such there that I'm aware of. If it works or

> helps

> > thats good, but the verdict is clear yet as far as I can see.

> Anybody

> > else know more about it?

> > Bernie

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Bernie,

Right after I posted the message below, Dr. Bassett came to my

rescue and sent me the following sites. Contained in the first site

are lots of studies on human TF (including one of the studies I

mentioned)-some of the TF was derived from blood elements, some in

vitro. They are http://www.med.unibo.it/itfs/index.html and

http://www.med.unibo.it/reparti servizi/modimmun/pizza-en.htm

Happy reading,

> >

> > I posted not too long ago this. A brief summary for those who

missed

> > it. I joined the transfactor forum some time ago to learn more

> > about transfactor in general. What I learned at the time was that

> > all the impressive stuff happened from human and all the stuff on

> the

> > market is bovine (or chicken).

> >

> >

> > I have also been monitoring that group, and most of

> the

> > posts i've seen said the human type transfer factor had not

helped

> much,

> > and more I saw said the colostrum based helped more. but some

were

> > helped and I don't know the overall statistics.

> > No one has posted such there that I'm aware of. If it works or

> helps

> > thats good, but the verdict is clear yet as far as I can see.

> Anybody

> > else know more about it?

> > Bernie

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4-Life holds a patent on the extraction process, for

extracting transfer factors from bovine colostrum.

There is also a process where transfer factors are

taken from a family member's blood and is given to the

child through IV.

Transfer factors are not species specific, but rather,

transfer factors are specific to the microorganism.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--- etiguy@... wrote:

> Following is an abstract from the original study

> done by Hugh

> Fudenberg on the benefits of using custom tailored

> TF for treating

> autism:

>

> Dialysable lymphocyte extract (DLyE) in infantile

> onset autism: a

> pilot study.

>

> Fudenberg HH

> Neurolmmuno Therapeutics Research Foundation

> Spartanburg, S.C., USA.

>

> 40 infantile autistic patients were studied. They

> ranged from 6 years

> to 15 years of age at entry. 22 were cases of

> classical infantile

> autism; whereas 18 lacked one or more clinical

> defects associated

> with infantile autism ( " pseudo-autism " ). Of the 22

> with classic

> autism, 21 responded to transfer factor (TF)

> treatment by gaining at

> least 2 points in symptoms severity score average

> (SSSA); and 10

> became normal in that they were main-streamed in

> school and clinical

> characteristics were fully normalized. Of the 18

> remaining, 4

> responded to TF, some to other therapies. After

> cessation of TF

> therapy, 5 in the autistic group and 3 of the

> pseudo-autistic group

> regressed, but they did not drop as low as baseline

> levels.

>

> Publication Types:

>

>

> Clinical trial

>

> The TF used in this trial was derived from human

> blood. Antigens were

> isolated to specifically address MMR, HHV6, etc. The

> cost was

> approximately $40k per child which was funded from a

> multi-million

> dollar grant. Vijendra Singh actually worked in

> Hugh Fudenberg's lab

> and is a believer in this kind of TF.

>

> While 4Life readily quotes the research done by

> Fudenberg, it's

> transfer factor has no relation to the one that

> Fudenberg used. Mind

> you, I'm not saying 4Life's Transfer Factor may not

> be benefitting

> some kids, but I am saying it ain't comparable.

> 4Life seems to have a

> copywrite on the Transfer Factor name, so their

> product could well be

> colostrum and they just call it Transfer Factor, I

> don't know. In

> the business world that's called brand

> identification and it helps

> sell product. I believe real TF should only require

> use for about

> 90 - 180 days for benefits to be seen. Afterwards a

> small

> maintenance amount should be given every 30-45 days

> or so to maintain

> antigen response. I do not believe 4Life's product

> fits this profile.

>

> I believe some of the folks at Chisolm Labs used to

> work under

> Fudenberg. My guess is they are trying to use

> chicken blood instead

> of human blood as a medium for isolating the

> antigens that are autism

> specific in order to make their TF affordable to

> all. Will this be

> effective? I don't know. Just like with 4Life's

> product, other than

> loss of $, it shouldn't hurt and maybe it'll help.

>

> FWIW

>

> Jeff

>

>

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In a message dated 5/6/01 8:01:16 AM Central Daylight Time,

valadez4@... writes:

> For any of you using Transfer Factor from 4life, are you using the

> Transfer Factor, or Tranfer Factor Plus. Thanks, Leah

>

Leah,

I am using " Transfer Factor " for my son. About 1-2 years ago that was what

they recommended for Spectrum Disorders.

Love and Prayers,

Sheela.

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--I started my son on Transfer Factor 3 years ago (before there was

TF+) when the TF+ formulation came out several months later, I put

him on it as well.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Lindy~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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In @y..., Iamkanthai@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/6/01 8:01:16 AM Central Daylight Time,

> valadez4@s... writes:

>

>

> > For any of you using Transfer Factor from 4life, are you using

the

> > Transfer Factor, or Tranfer Factor Plus. Thanks, Leah

> >

>

> Leah,

> I am using " Transfer Factor " for my son. About 1-2 years ago that

was what

> they recommended for Spectrum Disorders.

> Love and Prayers,

> Sheela.

>

>

>

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I am using transfer factor plus. Vicky

valadez4@... wrote:

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> For any of you using Transfer Factor from 4life, are you using the

> Transfer Factor, or Tranfer Factor Plus. Thanks, Leah

>

>

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-The immune system produces a number of messenger and control

molecules known as cytokines. Some Cytokines act as mediators of

innate immunity while others are involved in acquired immunity. These

cytokines control the activation, growth, and differentiation of

cells. transfer factors are among the most important cytokines.

Transfer factors are peptides consisting of chains of up to 44 amino

acids. these amino acids function as an alphabet by changing

sequences to store antigen specific information on different

pathogens. transfer factors are composed of three fractions;

inducers, suppressors, and antigen specific. When our immune system

comes in contact with a pathogen, the experience is stored in

transfer factors. The next time that pathogen or a similar pathogen

enters the body, the transfer factor educates the various cells into

action against the invading pathogens.

In the event of an overly active immune system, the transfer

factors use suppressors to tone down the immune system.

Transfer factors are involved in the education of the immune system.

Transfer factors are extracted from bovine colostrum...

Transfer factors are what makes colostrum effective...

It would take 100 gallons of colostrum to make one gallon of

transfer factor.

Three years ago,when I realized that Autism was somehow related to a

malfunctioning immune system, I searched for natural supplements for

the immune system...When I found Transfer Factor, it sounded perfect

for my son, and has helped him alot. He used to get sick " at the

drop of the hat. "

Now he is very rarely sick at all, no longer requires anti-

biotics...in addition, I have seen improvements in eye-contact,

visual and auditory stimming, obsessive-compulsive behavior, sleep

patterns, and general awareness.

I became an independent distributor to get wholesale prices, but the

company now has a program where anyone can order at wholesale prices

by signing up as a customer under my ID#. There is no charge for

this, and you will get your own ID# for ordering purposes.

For anyone interested, the info. you need for ordering is as follows:

toll free ordering number...1-888-454-3374

My ID#......................90647

My name..................... Holcomb

remember to tell them you want to sign up as a customer under me,

this way there is no additional charge. You will be able to place an

order immediately.

The cost for Transfer Factor the last time I ordered was

$34.95 for 90 caps.

TF+ was $49.95 for 60 caps.

The company is 4-Life Research

www.4-life.com

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Lindy~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

factor.

-- In @y..., casti71@A... wrote:

> I'm a little behind on this one....can someone please explain to me

exactly

> what this is.

>

>

> Sal's mom

>

>

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First of all Dr. Darryl See is not the only Doctor that has published many

articles about Transfer Factor or 4 Life Products ... if you would do the

research and take the time to listen to the toll free conference calls ...

Medline clincial research studies and get over Dr. See and the crap with him

.... you might see the light. I only said he conducted a study that was

published in JANA Feb 1999 issue ... that is not the only clinical research

study. I do not understand how people can be so prejudgemental when they

won't investigate anything. Not a single one of you putting these products

down have asked for any of the research sites ... NOT ONE !!!

You continue to talk in circles on Dr. See, be as it may your opinion on Dr.

See ... I have no opinion on him ... so all I am saying is this this NOT the

only study ever conducted.

J W

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> Thank you Cheryl! Do I have to did out all the past bull published on Dr.

See!

> Do you J W Austin sell or represent the company? I spoke with Dr,

Goldberg

> who at least got a good laugh out of this, As well as Dr. Galpin. I'll

tell

> you what you guys if you all want to waste your money and buy it I'll sign

up

> and sell it to you and give the money to .

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Hi ,

I was more than happy to post what I found. Whenever someone says there are

all these studies that prove something works, and all you can find are vague

references, I get very suspicious. I also found the following listed on

information given for Dr. See.

" Since 1/98. Co-chair, Research Division, American Neutraceutical

Association "

If there was a study done, how would this fall under the heading of

independant study? In the " real scientific world " I believe this would be

considered a " conflict of interest " .

I can imagine the reaction you received when you mentioned what was

involved, LOL. 1999 all over again. :) Can you imagine what could have

been accomplished with all the money being wasted?

Cheryl

>From: Schneider <athomemom35@...>

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>nids

>Subject: Transfer factor

>Date: 4 Jun 2001 14:24:15 MDT

>

>Thank you Cheryl! Do I have to did out all the past bull published on Dr.

>See!

> Do you J W Austin sell or represent the company? I spoke with Dr,

>Goldberg

>who at least got a good laugh out of this, As well as Dr. Galpin. I'll tell

>you what you guys if you all want to waste your money and buy it I'll sign

>up

>and sell it to you and give the money to .

>

>

>

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> I tried looking this up in the archives to no avail, although I thought it was

discussed before.

>

> Has anyone had any experience with transfer factor distributed by 4 Life for

helping the immune system. I have read that it is more effective than

colostrum alone.

>

> It is expensive. Does anyone know of another company that distributes this

product for less money?

-------Jafa, a cheaper, more natural, way to boost the immune system is to

sweetbreads. The thymus gland is the main gland of the immune system,

and so eating thymus glands (sweetbreads) nourishes it (because they

contain nutritional factors specific to that gland). I was reading a book on

cooking for invalids the other day, and the author mentioned that (though she

didn't know why:-)) sweetbread recipes are extremely common in traditional

cooking for the sick. Fancy that!

Plus, I'm disovering that dredged in flour and fried in lard they're better than

chicken nuggets!

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Do you have to remove a membrane first, or something like that? Or is that

just for pancreas sweetbreads?

>Plus, I'm disovering that dredged in flour and fried in lard they're

>better than

>chicken nuggets!

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>

> Do you have to remove a membrane first, or something like that? Or is that

> just for pancreas sweetbreads?

I bought lamb sweetbreads. After soaking them and poaching them

(directions in NT under preparing sweetbreads), you remove any membrane

or fat with a sharp knife. It wasn't much, and I just used my fingers to remove

it. I didn't notice anything nasty or membraneous when I ate them. The

membrane might be more pronounced with calves sweetbreads.

The reason I got lamb is that it was New Zealand lamb, and I read they are

raised more naturally there. And I don't have a grassfed source for organ

meats other than liver, heart and tongue. I've been told that with organ

meats you have to be even more careful about your source than with muscle

meats.

I ate them with lime juice and hot sauce, dipped in mayonnaise, and they

were delicious... (in fact, I think I'll go fry up the rest right now...)

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> Has anyone had any experience with transfer factor distributed by

> 4 Life for helping the immune system. I have read that it is

> more effective than colostrum alone.

I personally haven't had any experience with it, but I been researching it

and colostrum recently for a writing assignment. Transfer Factor is an

extract (of transfer factors) from colostrum. 4Life also has some products

that are " targeted " transfer factors extracted from chicken egg yolk. In my

research I found there are TF advocates that think it's the most important

part of colostrum, so use TF. Then there are the colostrum advocates who

think the complete product is more than the sum of its parts, so use

colostrum. And of course there are plenty of people who didn't have luck

with either product. Some of this depends on what purpose they had in

taking the products.

> It is expensive. Does anyone know of another company that

> distributes this product for less money?

Transfer Factor is only available from 4Life through a multitude of

distributors (it's an MLM company). They are licensing the patented process

to extract transfer factors from colostrum. I don't know of any other

companies that manufacture a transfer factor product.

Wilkinson

Portland, OR

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I'm not sure that these products are such a good idea. Besides the problem

with dairy....the wrong parts of the immune system appear to be

stimulated.(elevated Th2 shown in autism studies).....and there are

questions about the source of some of the stimulation.

Cheryl

J Allergy Clin Immunol. 2003 Dec;112(6):1216-22.

Immunostimulatory potential of beta-lactoglobulin preparations: effects

caused by endotoxin contamination.

Brix S, Bovetto L, Fritsche R, Barkholt V, Frokiaer H.

BioCentrum-DTU, Technical University of Denmark, Lyngby, Denmark.

BACKGROUND: The immunomodulating potential residing in cow's milk proteins

is currently receiving increasing attention because of growing interest in

functional foods and the complex problem of cow's milk allergy. One of the

major cow's milk allergens, whey protein beta-lactoglobulin, has previously

been shown to mediate cellular activation in both human and murine immune

cells.

OBJECTIVE: We examined the response to different beta-lactoglobulin

preparations in naive immune cells.

METHODS: Splenocytes and cells from mesenteric lymph nodes derived from

BALB/c mice bred and maintained on a milk-free diet were cultured in vitro

with different beta-lactoglobulin preparations.

Cell proliferation, cytokine production, and increases in intracellular

glutathione were used as cellular activation markers. Moreover, the effect

of beta-lactoglobulin on cytokine production in murine bone-marrow-derived

dendritic cells was examined.

RESULTS: We observed that some commercial beta-lactoglobulin preparations

induced pronounced proliferation of both spleen cells and cells from

mesenteric lymph nodes; production of TNF-alpha, IL-6, IL-1beta, and IL-10;

and an increased level of intracellular glutathione in spleen cell cultures.

Furthermore, TNF-alpha, IL-6, IL-1beta, and IL-10 production was induced in

murine bone-marrow-derived dendritic cells.

Purification of beta-lactoglobulin from raw milk using nondenaturating

conditions, however, revealed that the beta-lactoglobulin per se did not

possess the immunomodulatory activity.

Eventually, the immunostimulatory effect was found to be caused by endotoxin

contamination.

CONCLUSION: These results identify endotoxin as the main immunostimulatory

component present in some commercial beta-lactoglobulin preparations.

Moreover, the present study makes it evident that immunomodulatory effects

attributed to beta-lactoglobulin need to be reassessed.

PMID: 14657886 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

J Nutr. 2004 Feb;134(2):403-9.

The mode of oral bovine lactoferrin administration influences mucosal and

systemic immune responses in mice.

Sfeir RM, Dubarry M, Boyaka PN, Rautureau M, Tome D.

Unite INRA 914 Physiologie de la Nutrition et du Comportement Alimentaire,

Institut National Agronomique Paris-Grignon, F-75231 Paris Cedex 05, France

and. Department of Microbiology and Immunobiology Vaccine Center, UAB,

Birmingham, AL 35294.

Food protein intake interacts with the immune system. In earlier nutritional

and immunological studies, nutrients, particularly milk whey proteins, were

generally administered in soluble form and by gavage. However, orogastric

intubation does not represent a natural way of ingesting nutrients such as

lactoferrin (Lf).

We examined how different modes of oral administration of Lf could affect

the regulatory effect of this molecule on intestinal and systemic immune

responses. Groups of 10 female BALB/c mice were administered Lf daily for 6

wk. To address the influence of the oral modes of administration, mice were

given Lf either in solution, by gastric intubation or in the drinking water,

or as a powder, by buccal deposition or in the diet.

Mucosal and systemic immune responses, including specific immunoglobulin

(Ig) secretion, cell proliferation, and cytokine production, were analyzed

and compared with those of naive mice given water under the same conditions

or positive control mice that were administered Lf by i.m. injection.

The addition of Lf to the drinking water had no visible effect on the immune

status. Gastric intubation, single buccal doses, and continuous doses of Lf

in the diet stimulated transient systemic and intestinal antibody responses

against Lf.

All of these oral modes of Lf exposure biased mucosal and systemic T-cell

responses toward Thelper (Th)2-types and elevated IgA production by mucosal

cells.

However, the less natural gastric intubation also promoted Th1-type

responses as evidenced by serum IgG(2a) antibodies and the secretion of Th1

cytokine by mucosal and systemic T cells in vitro.

Thus, one should carefully consider the oral mode of administration for

understanding regulation of immune responses by food proteins such as Lf.

PMID: 14747680 [PubMed - in process]

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Hi ,

The transfer factor my DAN! has suggested is from Chisolm Bio Labs.

The brand name is Immunfactor #5. It comes from chicken colostrum.

My son will also be treated with azithromyicin. The Dr. said that he

has probably had strep throat for months and just got used to the

pain. He has way too many strep antibodies the DAN! Dr. said

My son is only 3.4 years old. He has had sooo many tests done. His

body is in TH2 mode, he has a very bad leaky gut, all the food

intolerances, Kyptopyyrol is high, rubeola is high, delayed myelin,

IAG is over the top, oral motor apraxia, etc. etc. etc.

Yet to look at him, he doesn't seem autistic, just sick.

We are doing supps, b12 injections, yeast and bacteria control, SCD,

but still not getting anywhere. Now Strep.

If anyone has any other ideas we would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Jen

P. S. Here is a site describing transfer factor:

http://www.immunesupport.com/library/showarticle.cfm/id/3166

> Jen,

>

> I know nothing about PANDAS, but my 7 yr. old son and I take

Transfer Factor. Its main ingredient is a component of bovine

colostrom, and it is an immune system booster. I don't know if the

transfer factor #5 you mentioned is something different.

>

> My husband was insisting on a flu vaccine for our son in Oct. He

works for an HMO and the docs there told him there was no mercury in

the shot. I went to the clinic, where I nurse told me there was

a " trace " of mercury. My son is not at risk to necessitate the flu

shot. Someone steered me to Transfer Factor. My son did end up

getting a cold which lasted for a week, but otherwise was fine.

>

> I usually get either strep throat or bronchitis and so far this

year have not even had a cold while on Transfer Factor.

>

> We are not patients of Dr. Goldberg's. I had an appt. last year

and my husband went through the roof, so I had to cancel. My son

definitely has , however, so I'm trying to do what little I can

on my own that is not harmful.

>

> This is a tiered marketing product, and when you order it, you will

be set up to receive a monthly shipment. I was very leery at first,

but it has worked well for us.

>

> Here's the info.

> http://www.4life.com/TransferFactor/index.html

>

>

>

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Any one heard of this ? Transfer Factor. It used to be only in injection and now it is in capsule form. They say it is just as good.

Beth with the numb leg, I have a numb right leg this just happened within the last two weeks.

Do you know anything about it does anyone? I have had a numb right big toe for a long time. I went to an endocrinologist cause I thought it was diabetes related. He said no it was neurological. So I asked my neurologist about it. He did not answer but asked me if anyone had ever told me I had carpel tunnel ? We started talking about other things and I forgot about the toe. Now the leg is numb what is going on ? Anyone .

Suz

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This supplement has been around for awhile, I took it for some time

when I had implants and after I got them out for a few months, but it

got to be so expensive and I did not find it had any realy noticable

effects on me.

I know that it sounds crazy but personally I found that I felt better

taking less supplements and eating good and working out esp seemed to

do more for me than alot of vitamins. I am not saying you should not

take them, just a personal feeling i had about too many supplements.

I have seen some programs that say we should take many many supps

and I just never felt they did much for me.

hugs

PS that does not mean you should not try them and see how you go, I

thihk I mostly peed mine out anyhow.

hugs

In , " Sue Ayers " <hecate1@b...> wrote:

> Any one heard of this ? Transfer Factor. It used to be only in

injection and now it is in capsule form. They say it is just as

good.

>

> Beth with the numb leg, I have a numb right leg this just happened

within the last two weeks.

> Do you know anything about it does anyone? I have had a numb right

big toe for a long time. I went to an endocrinologist cause I

thought it was diabetes related. He said no it was neurological. So

I asked my neurologist about it. He did not answer but asked me if

anyone had ever told me I had carpel tunnel ? We started talking

about other things and I forgot about the toe. Now the leg is numb

what is going on ? Anyone .

>

> Suz

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What is TRANSFER FACTOR?Sue Ayers <hecate1@...> wrote:

Any one heard of this ? Transfer Factor. It used to be only in injection and now it is in capsule form. They say it is just as good.

Beth with the numb leg, I have a numb right leg this just happened within the last two weeks.

Do you know anything about it does anyone? I have had a numb right big toe for a long time. I went to an endocrinologist cause I thought it was diabetes related. He said no it was neurological. So I asked my neurologist about it. He did not answer but asked me if anyone had ever told me I had carpel tunnel ? We started talking about other things and I forgot about the toe. Now the leg is numb what is going on ? Anyone .

Suz

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