Re: I AM HOME Kacey and LM

[Guest guest]

Thank you ladies, for reading my legnthy post and caring enough to

respond, makes me feel good!

Kacey your so right about the sex thing and the STD thing, luckily it

is my 14 year old neice who is sexually active, and not my 12 year

old daughter, YET AT LEAST, but who knows how long till that happens.

I pray my daughter will wait. I talked to my niece a bit about it and

she feels that most of the time she only has had sex because she felt

pressured by guys to do it. Amazing that they can be so easily swayed

into someting so dangerous, then not even enjoy it that much, yet

still do it again. My 17 year old neice had a case of clamydia, at 16

years old. They say they use protection, but I don't think that is

the case all the time or she would not have gotten an STD.

I am not above telling them my story and how I ended up with a nice

case of herpes, the gift that keeps on giving, from a man I was in a

5 year long comitted relationship. He just never bothered to tell me

he had it, and in fact he claimed he never had an outbreak, but he

was a carrier like you mention. Luckily I don't get outbreaks very

often anymore. It seems like stress is the number one thing that

brings on an outbreak though, that is for sure.

As for my sister, well, I wish that she would see that her implants

are harming her. I guess she wants to keep them so bad she refuses to

admit to me that she is sick all the time. I mean she def told my mom

in front of my huby that she feels like she has the flu all the time.

Her and I went and walked the dogs and had lots of alone time and she

told me right to my face that she was never sick, just has depression

and panic anxiety type attacks.

I admit she has had depression and anxiety for years, but this is the

worse I have ever seen. She is also going through menopause, she is

almost 51 and I know for sure that some of the symptoms for menopause

are the same as fibro and CFS and other illnesses too. Hot flashes,

night sweats, dizzyness, forgetfullness. She told me she cannot read

a book or concentrate on anything. I mean she knows I had all that

stuff but, because her Dr is this big hot shot fancy Dr to the stars

(he did Sharon Stones Face Lift and boobs) she believes him and every

word that comes from his mouth is gospel. It is sickening.

Anyhow he told her the gel implants she has are the absolute best,

his wife has the same ones, oh geeze that is cheesy isn't it?

I wil be there for her if and when she faces the issues but I somehow

suspect that she will interpret all her symptoms to menopause and

aging rather than on implants, at her age I suppose it is easy to

convince yourself of that if that is what you want to believe. It is

sad, I have really forgiven her and no longer take what she did

personally, i know how she feels as I was there too, I mean I

probably would not have done it had I seen her get so ill from them,

had the rolls been reversed, but in the end they were not, and it

went this way and she now has the big fake boobs in the family and in

the end there is not a damn thing I can do about it besides pray, and

give it all to god.

Yes, I am rejuvenated and feeling excellent. I am about the

healthiest I can recall being in my life these days, so it is going

to be hard to do the detox, but I still plan on trying and doing the

group detox we all talked about before my trip. My 40th birthday is

August 2nd, which is Monday and I am going to celebrate that and my

hubby's 45th b day which is Wed the 4th and then, well then it is

detox diet time to see if I can feel even better than I do now.

I swear the funniest thing is how little sleep I seem to need these

days.

I get about 5 or 6 hours sleep and feel great!

Kacey your an awesome friend and inspiration to us all and we are so

proud of all that your doing for us and for our cause and because we

are silicone sisters there will always be a bond between us. I pray

we will all meet some day soon.

LM thanks for welcoming me back, I cannot wait to hear more from you.

write me soon

love and hugs

In , " kaceybu02 " <kaceyalong@h...> wrote:

> ,

>

> This post reminded me of our emails from a few months ago! I have

> missed chatting with you and the other ladies here. I'm sure it's

so

> hard on you to have your sister get breast implants. It would feel

> like a punch in the face if mine got them after everything that's

> happened to me. And then another punch when they wanted to hide

> their symptoms from me...just because they think I'd be mean and " I

> told you so " about it (which you and I would both never do...it

> would more likely be us ready and willing to help out and in tears

> because they actually wanted to talk to " us " about it).

>

> And I really understand what you meant about wanting to shake your

> 14 year old daughter for being sexually active at a young age.

> There's so much I could say on this subject...and hopefully one

day,

> I'll be able to help young people with this issue as well...boy do

I

> seem to get the tough stuff This issue, however, will be

> EXTREMELY hard for me to talk about....I should probably get

married

> first, so I can refer to everything in terms of the " far and

ancient

> past " She'll come around. The best thing you can do for her is

> what you've already done: take her on trips and show her the world.

> Let her see that there's so much out there and that she needs to

> experience so many things before OTHER STUFF could get in the way

> (i.e., not-good-for-you boyfriends, and teenage pregnancies...not

to

> mention lovely STDs). Did you know that 2/3 of people that have

STDs

> will be diagnosed with them before the age of 25? Pretty scary. And

> it's something like 25,000 people will be diagnosed with an STD

this

> year! And! Boys/Men are often carriers...the women are the ones

that

> will be affected and experience the symptoms. That's a completely

> different subject, though.

>

> I'm so happy that you got to travel! And it sounds like you did

some

> soul-searching and mind-clearing while you were there You sound

> renewed and rejuvenated and it is so nice to have you back!

>

> Kacey

>

>

> > Hey girls I am back home. Yep ya all can get ready for my lenghty

> > messages, which I am so sure you all missed so much ha ha ha.

> > Seriously I hope that you did all miss me a litte bit???? It is

> nice

> > to think you all did. Even if I do talk too much.

> > My trip was really a good trip other than the fact that things

> with

> > my daugther are not any better. She is just at that age where all

> > that matters is her freinds. So for that reason allot of the

> things

> > we had tried to plan to do and to include her in fell apart. We

> did

> > get her to Montery to the beautiful but pricey aquarium. Has

> anyone

> > else ever been there? It is really cool but so many people it is

> kind

> > of hard to see the fishes and things. Probably would have been

> better

> > to do on a Weekday.

> > We also did get her to go to Stinson Beach, which was gorgeous

(it

> is

> > right across the golden gate bridge) but worlds away from the

> hubub

> > of San Francisco. I also took my niece along (she is only 14 and

> > already having sex and it is really hard for me cause I wanted to

> > shake her and tell her to stop) man what a world we live in ya

> know.

> > And the other big family thing we did was the little ferry boat

> trip

> > and tour of Alcatraz prison. That was really cool. I lived in the

> Bay

> > area my whole entire life and that was the first time I ever got

> out

> > there. I was bummed my sister did not end up coming, esp since we

> had

> > bought and resevered her a spot. She said she was too anxious to

> be

> > around crowds. TO me she said she is not sick and that it is just

> > depression and anxiety (which she has had for years) but my hubby

> > overheard her telling my mom that she could not remember the last

> > time she did not feel like she had the flu. I can only assume she

> > won't talk to me about it cause she assumes I will tell her it is

> her

> > implants. At any rate she puts on a great act, but hey how many

of

> us

> > here all did that??? Plaster that smile on and when people ask

you

> > how you feel you want to scream " LIKE CRAP " or worse, instead you

> > say " I feel fine "

> > I did make my peace with the whole thing, yes it was hard to see

> her

> > with implants but I feel I am pretty much over my boob envy, and

I

> > sure don't envy being her with those silicone gel implants in my

> body

> > doing who knows what to her health.

> > Anyhow it feels good to be home, it was a fun trip but also

> stressful

> > with my daughter constantly on the phone to her friends and

seeing

> my

> > sister all nervous and my mom seeming kind of weirded out on the

> > whole thing too.It was very strange, so yeah, good to be back in

> > Idaho for me. I love my family but I don't miss living in that

> > overcrowded part of this Country at all. I never EVER thought I

> could

> > leave California, and now i realize how much i truly love Idaho.

> > I need to get a few hours of free time to read all the posts and

> see

> > if there is anyone that I can help, ya know me, always wanting to

> > help.

> > I have been praying girls, allot, and praying that you all have

> seen

> > my change and that god is helping to giude me to be a better

> person,

> > a better friend and a better source of support on this site.

> > God is working through each and everyone one of us here, I firmly

> > believe that. I also believe that my opinions are not always

> right,

> > or the only way, and that even when I believe strongly in

> something

> > that does not mean I have to shove MY BELIEFS OR OPINIONS down

> anyone

> > else's throat.I really love to help people, and try to share the

> > knowledge that I do have, I just want to do it in a gentler way.

> > So with that being said, and me feeling about as happy, content,

> > healthy and wonderful as I could ever ask to feel I am going to

> wrap

> > up my little message and just say that I really love you all,

your

> a

> > wonderful group of strong,beautiful women and I feel priveledged

> and

> > honored to be a part of your lives.

> > hugs to all

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

--

-

I haven't been online for about a week. Good to hear that you are

back. Even better to hear that you are feeling so good. You are such

an inspiration to the rest of us. That is what I like so much about

this group. Those farther ahead in their recovery and healing are

always inspiring those further behind! In case I am not online on

monday, have a great 40th birthday!! ARe you doing anything special?

Are you and your husband combining celebrations? What day are we

starting the detox and what did everyone decide on? I have been kind

of out of the loop lately, but thankfully, it is because I have been

busy living and feeling pretty good. I know my cyclical

symptoms--especially depression--will rear its ugly head again, but

right now I am just enjoying living. It has been a really long time

since I have felt like I could enjoy living again. I still feel pain

and fatigue at times, but I know I am healing.

I turn 50 in october. I am afraid of how much perimenopause and

menopause can actually add to my symptoms. I really think alot of my

depression now is hormonal. So I can see how your sister would think

her symptoms are menopausal. It is very unfortunate that her age is

complicating her ability to see the negative effects of implants. I

know many women who blame every symptom on menopause. I think that

one of the most difficult problems we encounter is being able to

identify what is causing our problems so that we can take the

appropriate actions. It is like finding a needle in a haystack. But

one thing I know for sure. No matter what is wrong with us, you can't

go wrong by detoxifying, juicing, and eating organic and live foods.

I think it is pretty much proven that whatever your condition, these

things are essential to better health. After hitting all the basics,

if we still have problems we may have to tweak our protocol more to

address problems more specifically. I will keep your sister in my

prayers.

Hugs,kathy

naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

>

> Thank you ladies, for reading my legnthy post and caring enough to

> respond, makes me feel good!

> Kacey your so right about the sex thing and the STD thing, luckily

it

> is my 14 year old neice who is sexually active, and not my 12 year

> old daughter, YET AT LEAST, but who knows how long till that

happens.

> I pray my daughter will wait. I talked to my niece a bit about it

and

> she feels that most of the time she only has had sex because she

felt

> pressured by guys to do it. Amazing that they can be so easily

swayed

> into someting so dangerous, then not even enjoy it that much, yet

> still do it again. My 17 year old neice had a case of clamydia, at

16

> years old. They say they use protection, but I don't think that is

> the case all the time or she would not have gotten an STD.

> I am not above telling them my story and how I ended up with a nice

> case of herpes, the gift that keeps on giving, from a man I was in

a

> 5 year long comitted relationship. He just never bothered to tell

me

> he had it, and in fact he claimed he never had an outbreak, but he

> was a carrier like you mention. Luckily I don't get outbreaks very

> often anymore. It seems like stress is the number one thing that

> brings on an outbreak though, that is for sure.

> As for my sister, well, I wish that she would see that her implants

> are harming her. I guess she wants to keep them so bad she refuses

to

> admit to me that she is sick all the time. I mean she def told my

mom

> in front of my huby that she feels like she has the flu all the

time.

> Her and I went and walked the dogs and had lots of alone time and

she

> told me right to my face that she was never sick, just has

depression

> and panic anxiety type attacks.

> I admit she has had depression and anxiety for years, but this is

the

> worse I have ever seen. She is also going through menopause, she is

> almost 51 and I know for sure that some of the symptoms for

menopause

> are the same as fibro and CFS and other illnesses too. Hot flashes,

> night sweats, dizzyness, forgetfullness. She told me she cannot

read

> a book or concentrate on anything. I mean she knows I had all that

> stuff but, because her Dr is this big hot shot fancy Dr to the

stars

> (he did Sharon Stones Face Lift and boobs) she believes him and

every

> word that comes from his mouth is gospel. It is sickening.

> Anyhow he told her the gel implants she has are the absolute best,

> his wife has the same ones, oh geeze that is cheesy isn't it?

> I wil be there for her if and when she faces the issues but I

somehow

> suspect that she will interpret all her symptoms to menopause and

> aging rather than on implants, at her age I suppose it is easy to

> convince yourself of that if that is what you want to believe. It

is

> sad, I have really forgiven her and no longer take what she did

> personally, i know how she feels as I was there too, I mean I

> probably would not have done it had I seen her get so ill from

them,

> had the rolls been reversed, but in the end they were not, and it

> went this way and she now has the big fake boobs in the family and

in

> the end there is not a damn thing I can do about it besides pray,

and

> give it all to god.

> Yes, I am rejuvenated and feeling excellent. I am about the

> healthiest I can recall being in my life these days, so it is going

> to be hard to do the detox, but I still plan on trying and doing

the

> group detox we all talked about before my trip. My 40th birthday is

> August 2nd, which is Monday and I am going to celebrate that and my

> hubby's 45th b day which is Wed the 4th and then, well then it is

> detox diet time to see if I can feel even better than I do now.

> I swear the funniest thing is how little sleep I seem to need these

> days.

> I get about 5 or 6 hours sleep and feel great!

> Kacey your an awesome friend and inspiration to us all and we are

so

> proud of all that your doing for us and for our cause and because

we

> are silicone sisters there will always be a bond between us. I pray

> we will all meet some day soon.

> LM thanks for welcoming me back, I cannot wait to hear more from

you.

> write me soon

> love and hugs

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In , " kaceybu02 " <kaceyalong@h...>

wrote:

> > ,

> >

> > This post reminded me of our emails from a few months ago! I have

> > missed chatting with you and the other ladies here. I'm sure it's

> so

> > hard on you to have your sister get breast implants. It would

feel

> > like a punch in the face if mine got them after everything that's

> > happened to me. And then another punch when they wanted to hide

> > their symptoms from me...just because they think I'd be mean and

" I

> > told you so " about it (which you and I would both never do...it

> > would more likely be us ready and willing to help out and in

tears

> > because they actually wanted to talk to " us " about it).

> >

> > And I really understand what you meant about wanting to shake

your

> > 14 year old daughter for being sexually active at a young age.

> > There's so much I could say on this subject...and hopefully one

> day,

> > I'll be able to help young people with this issue as well...boy

do

> I

> > seem to get the tough stuff This issue, however, will be

> > EXTREMELY hard for me to talk about....I should probably get

> married

> > first, so I can refer to everything in terms of the " far and

> ancient

> > past " She'll come around. The best thing you can do for her

is

> > what you've already done: take her on trips and show her the

world.

> > Let her see that there's so much out there and that she needs to

> > experience so many things before OTHER STUFF could get in the way

> > (i.e., not-good-for-you boyfriends, and teenage pregnancies...not

> to

> > mention lovely STDs). Did you know that 2/3 of people that have

> STDs

> > will be diagnosed with them before the age of 25? Pretty scary.

And

> > it's something like 25,000 people will be diagnosed with an STD

> this

> > year! And! Boys/Men are often carriers...the women are the ones

> that

> > will be affected and experience the symptoms. That's a

completely

> > different subject, though.

> >

> > I'm so happy that you got to travel! And it sounds like you did

> some

> > soul-searching and mind-clearing while you were there You

sound

> > renewed and rejuvenated and it is so nice to have you back!

> >

> > Kacey

> >

> >

> > > Hey girls I am back home. Yep ya all can get ready for my

lenghty

> > > messages, which I am so sure you all missed so much ha ha ha.

> > > Seriously I hope that you did all miss me a litte bit???? It is

> > nice

> > > to think you all did. Even if I do talk too much.

> > > My trip was really a good trip other than the fact that things

> > with

> > > my daugther are not any better. She is just at that age where

all

> > > that matters is her freinds. So for that reason allot of the

> > things

> > > we had tried to plan to do and to include her in fell apart. We

> > did

> > > get her to Montery to the beautiful but pricey aquarium. Has

> > anyone

> > > else ever been there? It is really cool but so many people it

is

> > kind

> > > of hard to see the fishes and things. Probably would have been

> > better

> > > to do on a Weekday.

> > > We also did get her to go to Stinson Beach, which was gorgeous

> (it

> > is

> > > right across the golden gate bridge) but worlds away from the

> > hubub

> > > of San Francisco. I also took my niece along (she is only 14

and

> > > already having sex and it is really hard for me cause I wanted

to

> > > shake her and tell her to stop) man what a world we live in ya

> > know.

> > > And the other big family thing we did was the little ferry boat

> > trip

> > > and tour of Alcatraz prison. That was really cool. I lived in

the

> > Bay

> > > area my whole entire life and that was the first time I ever

got

> > out

> > > there. I was bummed my sister did not end up coming, esp since

we

> > had

> > > bought and resevered her a spot. She said she was too anxious

to

> > be

> > > around crowds. TO me she said she is not sick and that it is

just

> > > depression and anxiety (which she has had for years) but my

hubby

> > > overheard her telling my mom that she could not remember the

last

> > > time she did not feel like she had the flu. I can only assume

she

> > > won't talk to me about it cause she assumes I will tell her it

is

> > her

> > > implants. At any rate she puts on a great act, but hey how many

> of

> > us

> > > here all did that??? Plaster that smile on and when people ask

> you

> > > how you feel you want to scream " LIKE CRAP " or worse, instead

you

> > > say " I feel fine "

> > > I did make my peace with the whole thing, yes it was hard to

see

> > her

> > > with implants but I feel I am pretty much over my boob envy,

and

> I

> > > sure don't envy being her with those silicone gel implants in

my

> > body

> > > doing who knows what to her health.

> > > Anyhow it feels good to be home, it was a fun trip but also

> > stressful

> > > with my daughter constantly on the phone to her friends and

> seeing

> > my

> > > sister all nervous and my mom seeming kind of weirded out on

the

> > > whole thing too.It was very strange, so yeah, good to be back

in

> > > Idaho for me. I love my family but I don't miss living in that

> > > overcrowded part of this Country at all. I never EVER thought I

> > could

> > > leave California, and now i realize how much i truly love Idaho.

> > > I need to get a few hours of free time to read all the posts

and

> > see

> > > if there is anyone that I can help, ya know me, always wanting

to

> > > help.

> > > I have been praying girls, allot, and praying that you all have

> > seen

> > > my change and that god is helping to giude me to be a better

> > person,

> > > a better friend and a better source of support on this site.

> > > God is working through each and everyone one of us here, I

firmly

> > > believe that. I also believe that my opinions are not always

> > right,

> > > or the only way, and that even when I believe strongly in

> > something

> > > that does not mean I have to shove MY BELIEFS OR OPINIONS down

> > anyone

> > > else's throat.I really love to help people, and try to share

the

> > > knowledge that I do have, I just want to do it in a gentler way.

> > > So with that being said, and me feeling about as happy,

content,

> > > healthy and wonderful as I could ever ask to feel I am going to

> > wrap

> > > up my little message and just say that I really love you all,

> your

> > a

> > > wonderful group of strong,beautiful women and I feel

priveledged

> > and

> > > honored to be a part of your lives.

> > > hugs to all

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >