Vickie

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I was sitting here just going through the posts not really ready to

respond to any yet, and then saw yours and thought OH MY I NEVER NEW

you had a gastric. Was it an open gastric or lap gastric? My friends

at work (several) have all recently had lap gastrics and are doing

well. Now a days they test you for H-Pylori and all that stuff ahead

of time and then they will often times when in there remove allot of

peoples gall bladders too. I don't always agree with this but I know

some people really do better without thiers. Esp some overweight

persons who have eaten allot of fatty foods all their lives. I had h

pylori and was sick as hell, so I know what that is like. I am not

clear from your post if you indeed do have it but it sounded like Yes

correct? If so dear, that will indeed cause all the problems you are

having. I was on my way to an ulcer and had no idea really till they

found the H pylori, my believe is you will get better with the help

of the nexium. I went on the antibiotic treatment for this and

withing about 3 months I was hurting all the time, I was starting to

be convinced it was my gall bladder, working on a surgical floor

where everyone is getting theirs out everyday of course did not help

me either hee hee. So anyhow my mind went out there and I was

terrified and I did the flush and nothing happened so I broke down

and had that ultrasound and they said my gall bladder had no stones

but it did have some sludge in it. I talked to my FAVORITE SURGEON

and he felt the sludge was meaningless and could have just been

undigested food. He said he would not remove my gall bladder ( THANK

GOD) and gave me a few packets of nexium or protonix one of those

proton pump meds, and within days, literally days I was cured. the

pain gone, never did return. Took awhile after the whole treatment

for H pylori to feel good again but I did. with your tiny little

tummy and if your being a good gastric bypass patient(sounds like you

are) then you should be ok, just keep eating your small portions,

take your antibiotic therapy and the nexium. My advice would be

continue the nexium for a few weeks to months or what your Dr says

after wards and you should be ok. It took awhile and I did not have

the tiny tummy pouch to deal with.

I know the older bypasses they left a bigger pouch then they are

doing now with these lap gastrics. So I am curious if you had the

open with the big scar and all, that is a BIG surgery, but worth it,

it helps so many people. I am amazed at how tiny my two friends at

work are. We have a wonderful program called new u, and the people

get support, go to classes, get weighed in, etc, it is really really

nice for them.

Anyhow thanks for the compliment about my long posts, as some make

fun of them, though I do not believe anyone is serious, I hope not

hee hee. I dont' get on here all the time so when I do, i certainly

have something to say and say it. I try not to get into all the

arguing that I used to but I also won't not share my opinion even if

I know it is possibly opening a can of worms ya know.

Anyhow that is cool, I mean I think I am a caring person that has

been through allot but I by no means am going to just throw the

medical community by the wayside becasue they have been good to me at

times, even when they also were very bad to me.

Lately I keep having some issues with my hands. Arthritis runs in my

family and one day I feel great and the next my hands hurt esp in the

am's so bad I don't want to get up or work out or anything, so that

has really been driving me nuts. I went to my pain clinic Dr and they

had a new Dr and he was a doll. He held my hand and comforted me and

told me that it could be arthritis but he is hoping it isn't I mean

he did not offer up any real cure or much of anything other than some

ideas of med and other things to do. He brought up thick blood which

I do not have but it interested me that a regular med Dr would

comment about thick blood as we all have suspected implants cause

this issue. I just decided I know how I bleed and if anything I do

not have thick but rather thin blood, however I am going to add some

things like garlic to my diet to see if that will help me out with

the blood in case it is thick. we will see. I certainly cannot afford

to go to a naturopath and live the life style we do when I have great

medical insurance so it has always been my choice to do what I can

through the medical system here in Idaho which, to be frank, compared

to CA the people here seem to care a bit more, someting that I think

is probably about less people, smaller population, that type of

thing. Less like cattle herding through the office.

At any rate I just turned the big 40 yesterday so maybe I am going to

get arthritis at such a young age, my dad has had it for years, and I

am sure the implants did not help me, but frankly for how many years

will I be able to blame implants on my health issues. I don't even

know. I suppose I could do it my whole life, but will it really make

a difference now to blame the dam things they have been gone for 4

years almost and I have not had this kind of finger joint pain ever.

I had pain, but this is totally different. I have arthritis in my

knee from an injury in HS and it is more like that.

Is it something I can cure through detox, maybe that would be nice.

Meanwhile I already know that if I get up, work out and take a hot

shower it always feels better, so that is a simple enough way to deal

with it now.

Anyhow here I am again going on and on, hee hee.

Vickie would love to hear more about your gastric and all you must

have been through. Your a good reason to warn my two friends at work

who are already complaining about their boobs being gone not to get

implants.

One of them has lost 80 pounds and is 10 pounds from her goal and the

other is 30 pounds from her goal and has lost 90 pounds, so she had

more to lost, they look fab. Lots of jealousy going on, but I am just

happy for them, I lost 60 pounds the old fashioned way and while it

took longer and was allot of hard work, I still think it was better

than undergoing surgery so I feel for these ladies.

I am proud to know you and hope you stick around. I think with ANY

support group where you have basically the same girls always talking,

there are going to be more arguments and debates than on a site where

the members are constantly changing. Also remember to try to look at

it how I do, sometimes i think it is just because we have been

through so much we tend to vent it out a bit more than some other

groups. We have been through alot. I know that no matter what goes

on, this is my home, and I pray allot lately to help me be a better

person. I hope it shows in some small way.

hugs

In , Vickie <gracie17db@y...>

wrote:

> Thank you , I too enjoy the inspirational stories, I just cant

deal with the stress of the negative post. I try to live by the rule

if you dont like it dont read it or turn it off....sometimes it's

just too much here, lingering for days!!!!! You're looking for

support and help and there is a big cat fight going on. I have not

been well, at all. At first my doctor thought I had gallstones but

the ultrasound came up negative. He is such a wonder physician. I

told him about the gallbladder liver flush and he said try it it

certainly can not hurt. It also didnt help. I still had terrible

pain and then I started getting heartburn constant...no relief at all

day or night. so they've put me on Nexium and did an H-pylori test

was was 2.97...normal or negative is 0.90....so now I am on a strict

diet of liquids and soft bland food, nexium and today I'll start

anitbiotics. My worst fear is a stomach ulcer as I had gastric

bypass 6 years ago and an ulcer can be cause for reversal

> of the bypass. I gave up breast implants, I wont give up my small

stomach. I know I need to do the aggressive treatment he has me on

to clear this up, it is not some thing i want to play around with,

but any ideas on other treatment in combination would be greatly

appreciated. I am taking primal defense and i also take a flora

combo to replace good bacteria. This is one reason i am so confused

as to how i got this. Again thank you for your kind words and

support.

> Vickie

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> JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@m...> wrote:

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> Vickie, I know, and I have often thought of leaving, but how could

I? I love sharing and gathering all the wellness tips and detoxing

programs from all the gals here. Hearing about Patty's recovery

through inovative programs,being there for new explantee's like Beth

for instance; and her questions at such a vital time.'s family

stories and work out regimins. LM's eperiences and support. Heck,

Diamonds getting well, Daryl's much needed help right now and updates

on little Quinn, Lynda's great advise, and everyone else! I could go

on and on....

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> I just think that once you have argued a topic for so long, to let

it go. It doesnt have to be proved, or otherwise. To be constantly

argued. It is your opinion, it has been stated several times and why

go on and on about it. There are women here that are very ill, and

these posts may very confusing and burdening to them to read. Who

are desperatly looking for answers and need help. They may be so

overwhelmed, as I once once-they turn the computer off. I am not

saying it is " up to me " to decide when the debate is old. I only

emailed a short response to perhaps hint around to a close on it. As

the posts were getting repetative, and realy leering on a negative

tone. Trying to stop a arguement , before it happened- I guess. Next

time, I won't

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> Anyway, please stay. There is so much support here, look past the

small amounts of the " same old issues " and see that the love and help

is here. How have you been doing lately? Anything new you are taking

or doing? And what has improved since explant? Fill me in Love

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> >From: Vickie <gracie17db@y...> >Reply-To:

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>Subject: Re: Re: C A R R I E >Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004

08:37:57 -0700 (PDT) > >: I have to agree with you. I have been

searching elsewhere for support, but this seems like the best group

for nutritional and " medical " advise. I've learned a lot from this

group. Having said that, each time I log on it seems there is an

agurment of some kind and no one knows when to stop. It is soooo

dishearting!!!! I have had some health issues that I needed and

wanted advise for from this group, but havent posted due to the

constant bickering. None of us are perfect and do come across hard at

times, but if some post were not so " short and blunt " they may not be

taken as being offensive. (unlike s long and informative posts.

I truly enjoy those !!!) >I really thought I was on the right

track by joining the group and wanted so much to be a part of it. It

> takes me a while to open up but once I feel comfortable with

people I can do so. Now it seems like I'll only be taking what I need

from this group and finding support else. Believe it or not that

saddens me. >Vickie > >JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@m...> wrote: >Why

get angry? Why set the torch here for all places? This is a support

group > Re: Re: C A R R I E > > >Hey ! >I

like the fire in you--calm can be boring! Just so long as we step

back and think calmly when we're angry--that's a good thing, but in

all other regards--SET THE TORCH! You go girl--fiery Leo lioness. >LM

> >naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote: >LM your too cute! I

am tring to be a calmer life of the party, but >ya know how us Leo's

are, I am just a big attention getter, I go >crazy without attention,

so he zodiac writters tell me hee hee. >Anyhow

> I missed you too, we will have to catch up soon on things ok?

>Love ya > > > > > > > > >In ,

Jane Doe >wrote: > > Hi : I'm glad you're back, it's not the

same without you. >Much of the time, you're the life of the party. >

> -Marie > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you

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