Re: Bariatric Fusion Vitamins

September 15, 2008

I got a box of samples from the company. They taste good intially but the after taste is very bitter and I 've yet to find someone who likes them. They have a better quality calcium form than Optisource (Fusion is Calcium is a citrate/carbonate blend vs all calcium carbonate); their sweetner is sucrolose instd of aspartame and they have 600 IU vitamin d vs 400 IU in Optisource. the benefit of the Bariatric advantage is that the Calcium is all citrate, separate fron the M/V/M, overall enhancing absorption.

LeBrun

Washington, DC

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 1:18 PM, mjacobs@... <mjacobs@...> wrote:

Is anyone familiar with or recommending Bariatric Fusion vitamins? We are currently using/recommending Bariatric Advantage products for our patients multivitamin, calcium, b complex needs. Was just wondering if

anyone has any experience with Bariatric Fusion. Thanks!-- Matt s, MA, RD/LD, NSCA-CPTBariatric DietitianNSCA Certified Personal TrainerOKlahoma WEIGHT LOSS OPtions3400 W. Tecumseh Road, ste 205

Norman, OK 73072405-360-7100www.owlo.commjacobs@...

September 16, 2008

I'm curious about Fusion also. We are currently using the Bariatric Advantage products, but I listen to patients tell me over and over that they hate the BA calcium.

THe Fusion is supposed to provdie enough calcium. I spoke with the rep. He told me if you take 4 of the Fusions it provides 800mg calcium carbonate and 200mg of calcium cirate. I questioned him regarding the absorption of Ca carbonate after Roux-en-y. He said hewould send me labs. I got the labs in he mail the past week. It had a serum calcium level before and after taking the Fusion product. It was increased, but doe that really prove anything? I was thinking that a bone density would be the only true way to judge Ca+ absorption. Is that correct? Also, from speaking to the Fusion rep, i got the impression that they attitude was "our vitamin might not provide enough calcium, but patients are more likley to take it." I'm not sure how I feel about that. I do think it tastes better thatn the BA stuff.

From: mjacobs@... <mjacobs@...>Subject: Bariatric Fusion Vitamins Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:18 PM

Is anyone familiar with or recommending Bariatric Fusion vitamins? We are currently using/recommending Bariatric Advantage products for our patients multivitamin, calcium, b complex needs. Was just wondering if anyone has any experience with Bariatric Fusion. Thanks!-- Matt s, MA, RD/LD, NSCA-CPTBariatric DietitianNSCA Certified Personal TrainerOKlahoma WEIGHT LOSS OPtions3400 W. Tecumseh Road, ste 205Norman, OK 73072405-360-7100www.owlo.commjacobsowlo (DOT) com

September 16, 2008

I have the same feeling about the Optisource vitamins. Although we've had many discussions on this listserv regarding the absorption of the calcium in this product I have never had any patients present issues with calcium - they are always within normal limits. So my feeling is if isn't broke don't fix it!

From: mjacobsowlo (DOT) com <mjacobsowlo (DOT) com>Subject: [bariatricNutrition Dietitians] Bariatric Fusion VitaminsBariatricNutritionD ietitiansDate: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:18 PM

Is anyone familiar with or recommending Bariatric Fusion vitamins? We are currently using/recommending Bariatric Advantage products for our patients multivitamin, calcium, b complex needs. Was just wondering if anyone has any experience with Bariatric Fusion. Thanks!-- Matt s, MA, RD/LD, NSCA-CPTBariatric DietitianNSCA Certified Personal TrainerOKlahoma WEIGHT LOSS OPtions3400 W. Tecumseh Road, ste 205Norman, OK 73072405-360-7100www.owlo.commjacobsowlo (DOT) com

September 16, 2008

To all,

I've come across a wonderful tasting and great nutritional liquid vitamin and mineral supplement called Vemma (Vitamins, essential minerals,mangosteen and aloe. I've been using in our Lap-Band patients and they love it, and it is keeping there labs WNL and bringing up defiecient labs as well as bringing down elevated labs. Your more than welcome to visit my website @ www.myvemma.com/deanepeck to find out more about this amazing product.offsightach@... offsightach@... Deane PeckMS,RD,LDN.

From: mjacobsowlo (DOT) com <mjacobsowlo (DOT) com>Subject: [bariatricNutrition Dietitians] Bariatric Fusion VitaminsBariatricNutritionD ietitiansDate: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:18 PM

Is anyone familiar with or recommending Bariatric Fusion vitamins? We are currently using/recommending Bariatric Advantage products for our patients multivitamin, calcium, b complex needs. Was just wondering if anyone has any experience with Bariatric Fusion. Thanks!-- Matt s, MA, RD/LD, NSCA-CPTBariatric DietitianNSCA Certified Personal TrainerOKlahoma WEIGHT LOSS OPtions3400 W. Tecumseh Road, ste 205Norman, OK 73072405-360-7100www.owlo.commjacobsowlo (DOT) com

July 28, 2009

What are you checking for B12 –

serum B12 or MMA? B/c I have several pts that take vitamins similar to this

and have serum B12 WNL but when we check MMA it is sometimes low. Just a

thought….

K. Mackie, MS, RD, LDN

Southeast Bariatrics Nutritionist

2300 Randolph Rd.

Charlotte, NC 28207

704-347-4144 (P)

704-347-4148 (F)

hmackie@...

www.southeastbariatrics.com

From:

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On Behalf Of dmcfadden43

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:44

AM

Subject:

Bariatric Fusion Vitamins

Hello everyone!

Several of our patients who are about 2 years post op have been telling me

about Bariatric Fusion vitamins that they have been purchasing online. These

vitamins have improved their compliance with our vitamin regimen. They only

have to take two chewable vitamins twice per day.

I am concerned about B12 absorption. I checked the nutritionals, and 4 of the

vitamins, taken as recommended, they provide almost 9000% of the RDA for B 12.

I have a couple of patients who have been taking these vitamins for over a year

and their follow up blood work has been fine.

Does anyone else have any experience with these vitamins? Anything that I can

recommend to improve vitamin compliance would be appreciated.

The website for the vitamins is www.bariatricfusion.com

July 29, 2009

We check serum B12. What does MMA stand for?

Thanks for your reply

Dorothy McFadden

>

> What are you checking for B12 - serum B12 or MMA? B/c I have several

> pts that take vitamins similar to this and have serum B12 WNL but when

> we check MMA it is sometimes low. Just a thought....

>

> K. Mackie, MS, RD, LDN

>

> Southeast Bariatrics Nutritionist

>

> 2300 Randolph Rd.

>

> Charlotte, NC 28207

>

> 704-347-4144 (P)

>

> 704-347-4148 (F)

>

> hmackie@...

>

> www.southeastbariatrics.com

>

> ________________________________

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

> dmcfadden43

> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:44 AM

>

> Subject: Bariatric Fusion Vitamins

>

> Hello everyone!

> Several of our patients who are about 2 years post op have been telling

> me about Bariatric Fusion vitamins that they have been purchasing

> online. These vitamins have improved their compliance with our vitamin

> regimen. They only have to take two chewable vitamins twice per day.

> I am concerned about B12 absorption. I checked the nutritionals, and 4

> of the vitamins, taken as recommended, they provide almost 9000% of the

> RDA for B 12. I have a couple of patients who have been taking these

> vitamins for over a year and their follow up blood work has been fine.

> Does anyone else have any experience with these vitamins? Anything that

> I can recommend to improve vitamin compliance would be appreciated.

> The website for the vitamins is www.bariatricfusion.com

>

July 29, 2009

Methylmalonic acid – you can test

urine or blood – urine is cheaper. But it is a more accurate way to

determine if there is a B12 deficiency or not. My reference book says it is

increased with B12 def (serum < 0.4micromol/L ; 0-3.6mmol/mol creatinine).

K. Mackie, MS, RD, LDN

Southeast Bariatrics Nutritionist

2300 Randolph Rd.

Charlotte, NC 28207

704-347-4144 (P)

704-347-4148 (F)

hmackie@...

www.southeastbariatrics.com

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of dmcfadden43

Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009

1:46 PM

To:

Subject:

Re: Bariatric Fusion Vitamins

We check serum B12. What does MMA stand for?

Thanks for your reply

Dorothy McFadden

>

> What are you checking for B12 - serum B12 or MMA? B/c I have several

> pts that take vitamins similar to this and have serum B12 WNL but when

> we check MMA it is sometimes low. Just a thought....

>

> K. Mackie, MS, RD, LDN

>

> Southeast Bariatrics Nutritionist

>

> 2300 Randolph

Rd.

>

> Charlotte, NC 28207

>

> 704-347-4144 (P)

>

> 704-347-4148 (F)

>

> hmackie@...

>

> www.southeastbariatrics.com

>

> ________________________________

>

> From:

> [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of