Re: Continious hair loss/LM

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Very good point, Detoxing is basically starving your body, and if

your suffereing from hair loss, I guess it really is something to

consider. Is it worth fasting and risking losing your hair? Hair

needs nutrients and vitamins and protein and those things that you

get from a healthy diet. Fad diets, back and forth starving yourself,

those are chancy with hair loss. You hit the nail on the head with

this one. I would not do any detoxing that involves fasting if I was

losing hair. Just my opinion, and of course no one has to take it,

but I would wait until the hair thing settled down before doing any

prolonged fasting. Again fasting messes with so many things,

electrolytes and the fine balance in your body between protien and

other nutrients and can affect absorption. I feel 100% sure after

watching the girls with the gastric bypass lose all her thick

gorgeous hair that startvation is key to hair loss in allot of

individuals. My good friend told me her hair loss was due to

malnutrition after her gastric bypass surgery. To her it was worth

losing her hair to lose over 100 pounds, but for those of us that are

thin, I would really really consider skipping the fasting and trying

to eat a regular diet and really consider high amounts of protien and

good carbs a nice balanced diet is always best for skin and hair.

hugs

In , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...>

wrote:

> , you are right about protein. Women need 60 grams of protein

per day. One piece of chicken does not cut it. Protein should be

consumed in intervals 3 x per day 20 grams each. Breakfast is a

needed time for protein. Milk and eggs are good. For those who have

lactose problems or gas, get lactaid milk. unless you are truly

allergic to milk, you need dairy--low fat or non fat dairy. I don't

care what these stupid fad diets say. I had a MAJOR effluvium back in

college from a low low fat diet, little protein and dairy.I had

anemia too.

>

> Prolonged detoxing frequently(the same as crash diets) can wreck

havoc on the endocrine system too, thus leaving telogen effluvium in

it's wake. Been there done that.

>

> Hugs,

> LM

>

> naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> I wonder if it could be the xanax? Maybe you react funky to it?

Also

> the second thing I have to ask is do you eat enough protein? I know

> for a fact that protein plays a big time roll in hair loss. Two

girls

> at my work had gastric bypasses and one lost almost half or more of

> her hair and one lost none, the difference seemed to be the intake

of

> protein. One did protein shakes everyday and the other did not. I

am

> not an expert at this but, it is something you may want to look

into.

> Also I hate to say it but, with all your detoxing are you sure your

> getting enough nutrition? I know your tiny and thin, so my next

> question would be could it be malnutrion? The final thing I can

think

> of is if your eating enough protein and getting enough food then

> maybe it has to do with absorption, maybe your not absorbing the

> nutrients.

> I am not exactly sure how you would find the answer to that or not,

> but maybe or someone else here has some ideas.

> I feel it is probably one of the above things, but just my thoughts

> here, since your looking for ideas.

> hugs

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , " dimonds68 " wrote:

> > Anyone here have continious/non stop hair loss, even after

> > explant??? I cannot understand, even though I am improved so

much,

> > and alot of my syptoms are gone(I am still not 100% though,I have

> > FMS/CFS), my hair loss has NOT improved at all. Mostly everything

> > has improved, except the hair. I mean the hair does not 'cycle'

> like

> > everything else, it just comes out in clumps. IT has been 4yrs

> after

> > explant. I cannot understand. I am beside myself. I looked over

my

> > previous bloodwork, and it is all negative. Maybe it is just

> > autoimmune. I eat great, have done tons of detoxing. The only med

I

> > take is .5mg of xanax. I just have to post this topic time and

time

> > again in hopes to get some answers. Any feedback? or hope? Thanks

> > hugs. TERRY

>

>

>

>

>

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:

I agree.

Did ever grow back her hair?

Dr. Micheal Thorner at Univ. of Virgina(endo) told me that long term dieting can cause permanent hair loss. Hair deprived of oxygen, RBC, nutrients will eventually die. I was told the same thing by an endo at GWU. He also told me some forms of shock cause hair loss that can be permanent.

Unfortunately, my anemia went undiagnosed until 2001. My poor follicles were starving.

LM naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

Very good point, Detoxing is basically starving your body, and if your suffereing from hair loss, I guess it really is something to consider. Is it worth fasting and risking losing your hair? Hair needs nutrients and vitamins and protein and those things that you get from a healthy diet. Fad diets, back and forth starving yourself, those are chancy with hair loss. You hit the nail on the head with this one. I would not do any detoxing that involves fasting if I was losing hair. Just my opinion, and of course no one has to take it, but I would wait until the hair thing settled down before doing any prolonged fasting. Again fasting messes with so many things, electrolytes and the fine balance in your body between protien and other nutrients and can affect absorption. I feel 100% sure after watching the girls with the gastric bypass lose

all her thick gorgeous hair that startvation is key to hair loss in allot of individuals. My good friend told me her hair loss was due to malnutrition after her gastric bypass surgery. To her it was worth losing her hair to lose over 100 pounds, but for those of us that are thin, I would really really consider skipping the fasting and trying to eat a regular diet and really consider high amounts of protien and good carbs a nice balanced diet is always best for skin and hair.hugsIn , Jane Doe wrote:> , you are right about protein. Women need 60 grams of protein per day. One piece of chicken does not cut it. Protein should be consumed in intervals 3 x per day 20 grams each. Breakfast is a needed time for protein. Milk and eggs are good. For those who have lactose problems or gas, get lactaid milk. unless you are

truly allergic to milk, you need dairy--low fat or non fat dairy. I don't care what these stupid fad diets say. I had a MAJOR effluvium back in college from a low low fat diet, little protein and dairy.I had anemia too.> > Prolonged detoxing frequently(the same as crash diets) can wreck havoc on the endocrine system too, thus leaving telogen effluvium in it's wake. Been there done that.> > Hugs,> LM> > naturalbeauty38 wrote:> I wonder if it could be the xanax? Maybe you react funky to it? Also > the second thing I have to ask is do you eat enough protein? I know > for a fact that protein plays a big time roll in hair loss. Two girls > at my work had gastric bypasses and one lost almost half or more of > her hair and one lost none, the difference seemed to be the intake of > protein. One did protein shakes everyday and the other did not.

I am > not an expert at this but, it is something you may want to look into. > Also I hate to say it but, with all your detoxing are you sure your > getting enough nutrition? I know your tiny and thin, so my next > question would be could it be malnutrion? The final thing I can think > of is if your eating enough protein and getting enough food then > maybe it has to do with absorption, maybe your not absorbing the > nutrients.> I am not exactly sure how you would find the answer to that or not, > but maybe or someone else here has some ideas.> I feel it is probably one of the above things, but just my thoughts > here, since your looking for ideas.> hugs> > > > > > > > > > , "dimonds68" wrote:> > Anyone here have continious/non stop hair loss, even after > >

explant??? I cannot understand, even though I am improved so much, > > and alot of my syptoms are gone(I am still not 100% though,I have > > FMS/CFS), my hair loss has NOT improved at all. Mostly everything > > has improved, except the hair. I mean the hair does not 'cycle' > like > > everything else, it just comes out in clumps. IT has been 4yrs > after > > explant. I cannot understand. I am beside myself. I looked over my > > previous bloodwork, and it is all negative. Maybe it is just > > autoimmune. I eat great, have done tons of detoxing. The only med I > > take is .5mg of xanax. I just have to post this topic time and time > > again in hopes to get some answers. Any feedback? or hope? Thanks > > hugs. TERRY> > > > >

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has gotten down to her goal weight and her hair is very thin,

dry and really ugly looking compared to when she was a heavy girl.

She has lost over 100 pounds and looks great cept that hair. She used

to have gorgeous thick brown hair that looked so beautiful, but she

is still happy to be thin, and she told me she has new growth coming

in, I just have yet to notice it. My other friend Wende had the same

procedure about 3 months later so she still has another 20 pounds to

lose but her hair (always has been thinish) looks the same, never

lost any of it, she says it was the protein shakes that she has been

drinking the entire time her weight was coming off. They had

different Dr's do the procedure as well.

it is interesting to see the difference in how well Wende's hair has

held up, lots of gastric bypass patients lose hair.

hugs

In , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...>

wrote:

> :

> I agree.

> Did ever grow back her hair?

>

> Dr. Micheal Thorner at Univ. of Virgina(endo) told me that long

term dieting can cause permanent hair loss. Hair deprived of oxygen,

RBC, nutrients will eventually die. I was told the same thing by an

endo at GWU. He also told me some forms of shock cause hair loss that

can be permanent.

>

> Unfortunately, my anemia went undiagnosed until 2001. My poor

follicles were starving.

> LM

>

> naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> Very good point, Detoxing is basically starving your body, and if

> your suffereing from hair loss, I guess it really is something to

> consider. Is it worth fasting and risking losing your hair? Hair

> needs nutrients and vitamins and protein and those things that you

> get from a healthy diet. Fad diets, back and forth starving

yourself,

> those are chancy with hair loss. You hit the nail on the head with

> this one. I would not do any detoxing that involves fasting if I

was

> losing hair. Just my opinion, and of course no one has to take it,

> but I would wait until the hair thing settled down before doing any

> prolonged fasting. Again fasting messes with so many things,

> electrolytes and the fine balance in your body between protien and

> other nutrients and can affect absorption. I feel 100% sure after

> watching the girls with the gastric bypass lose all her thick

> gorgeous hair that startvation is key to hair loss in allot of

> individuals. My good friend told me her hair loss was due to

> malnutrition after her gastric bypass surgery. To her it was worth

> losing her hair to lose over 100 pounds, but for those of us that

are

> thin, I would really really consider skipping the fasting and

trying

> to eat a regular diet and really consider high amounts of protien

and

> good carbs a nice balanced diet is always best for skin and hair.

> hugs

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In , Jane Doe

> wrote:

> > , you are right about protein. Women need 60 grams of

protein

> per day. One piece of chicken does not cut it. Protein should be

> consumed in intervals 3 x per day 20 grams each. Breakfast is a

> needed time for protein. Milk and eggs are good. For those who have

> lactose problems or gas, get lactaid milk. unless you are truly

> allergic to milk, you need dairy--low fat or non fat dairy. I don't

> care what these stupid fad diets say. I had a MAJOR effluvium back

in

> college from a low low fat diet, little protein and dairy.I had

> anemia too.

> >

> > Prolonged detoxing frequently(the same as crash diets) can wreck

> havoc on the endocrine system too, thus leaving telogen effluvium

in

> it's wake. Been there done that.

> >

> > Hugs,

> > LM

> >

> > naturalbeauty38 wrote:

> > I wonder if it could be the xanax? Maybe you react funky to it?

> Also

> > the second thing I have to ask is do you eat enough protein? I

know

> > for a fact that protein plays a big time roll in hair loss. Two

> girls

> > at my work had gastric bypasses and one lost almost half or more

of

> > her hair and one lost none, the difference seemed to be the

intake

> of

> > protein. One did protein shakes everyday and the other did not. I

> am

> > not an expert at this but, it is something you may want to look

> into.

> > Also I hate to say it but, with all your detoxing are you sure

your

> > getting enough nutrition? I know your tiny and thin, so my next

> > question would be could it be malnutrion? The final thing I can

> think

> > of is if your eating enough protein and getting enough food then

> > maybe it has to do with absorption, maybe your not absorbing the

> > nutrients.

> > I am not exactly sure how you would find the answer to that or

not,

> > but maybe or someone else here has some ideas.

> > I feel it is probably one of the above things, but just my

thoughts

> > here, since your looking for ideas.

> > hugs

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " dimonds68 " wrote:

> > > Anyone here have continious/non stop hair loss, even after

> > > explant??? I cannot understand, even though I am improved so

> much,

> > > and alot of my syptoms are gone(I am still not 100% though,I

have

> > > FMS/CFS), my hair loss has NOT improved at all. Mostly

everything

> > > has improved, except the hair. I mean the hair does not 'cycle'

> > like

> > > everything else, it just comes out in clumps. IT has been 4yrs

> > after

> > > explant. I cannot understand. I am beside myself. I looked over

> my

> > > previous bloodwork, and it is all negative. Maybe it is just

> > > autoimmune. I eat great, have done tons of detoxing. The only

med

> I

> > > take is .5mg of xanax. I just have to post this topic time and

> time

> > > again in hopes to get some answers. Any feedback? or hope?

Thanks

> > > hugs. TERRY

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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You might want to tell to see an endo, with all that weight loss, it has to have had an impact on her metobolic/hormone system.

Also, she might have low ferritin. With low iron stores, you can't regrow hair. Also with low protein.

See www.florisene.com

HUGS,

LMnaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

has gotten down to her goal weight and her hair is very thin, dry and really ugly looking compared to when she was a heavy girl. She has lost over 100 pounds and looks great cept that hair. She used to have gorgeous thick brown hair that looked so beautiful, but she is still happy to be thin, and she told me she has new growth coming in, I just have yet to notice it. My other friend Wende had the same procedure about 3 months later so she still has another 20 pounds to lose but her hair (always has been thinish) looks the same, never lost any of it, she says it was the protein shakes that she has been drinking the entire time her weight was coming off. They had different Dr's do the procedure as well.it is interesting to see the difference in how well Wende's hair has held up, lots of gastric bypass patients lose

hair.hugsIn , Jane Doe wrote:> :> I agree.> Did ever grow back her hair?> > Dr. Micheal Thorner at Univ. of Virgina(endo) told me that long term dieting can cause permanent hair loss. Hair deprived of oxygen, RBC, nutrients will eventually die. I was told the same thing by an endo at GWU. He also told me some forms of shock cause hair loss that can be permanent.> > Unfortunately, my anemia went undiagnosed until 2001. My poor follicles were starving. > LM > > naturalbeauty38 wrote:> Very good point, Detoxing is basically starving your body, and if > your suffereing from hair loss, I guess it really is something to > consider. Is it worth fasting and risking losing your hair? Hair > needs nutrients and vitamins and protein and

those things that you > get from a healthy diet. Fad diets, back and forth starving yourself, > those are chancy with hair loss. You hit the nail on the head with > this one. I would not do any detoxing that involves fasting if I was > losing hair. Just my opinion, and of course no one has to take it, > but I would wait until the hair thing settled down before doing any > prolonged fasting. Again fasting messes with so many things, > electrolytes and the fine balance in your body between protien and > other nutrients and can affect absorption. I feel 100% sure after > watching the girls with the gastric bypass lose all her thick > gorgeous hair that startvation is key to hair loss in allot of > individuals. My good friend told me her hair loss was due to > malnutrition after her gastric bypass surgery. To her it was worth > losing her hair to lose over 100 pounds, but for those

of us that are > thin, I would really really consider skipping the fasting and trying > to eat a regular diet and really consider high amounts of protien and > good carbs a nice balanced diet is always best for skin and hair.> hugs> > > > > > > > > > > In , Jane Doe > wrote:> > , you are right about protein. Women need 60 grams of protein > per day. One piece of chicken does not cut it. Protein should be > consumed in intervals 3 x per day 20 grams each. Breakfast is a > needed time for protein. Milk and eggs are good. For those who have > lactose problems or gas, get lactaid milk. unless you are truly > allergic to milk, you need dairy--low fat or non fat dairy. I don't > care what these stupid fad diets say. I had a MAJOR effluvium back in > college

from a low low fat diet, little protein and dairy.I had > anemia too.> > > > Prolonged detoxing frequently(the same as crash diets) can wreck > havoc on the endocrine system too, thus leaving telogen effluvium in > it's wake. Been there done that.> > > > Hugs,> > LM> > > > naturalbeauty38 wrote:> > I wonder if it could be the xanax? Maybe you react funky to it? > Also > > the second thing I have to ask is do you eat enough protein? I know > > for a fact that protein plays a big time roll in hair loss. Two > girls > > at my work had gastric bypasses and one lost almost half or more of > > her hair and one lost none, the difference seemed to be the intake > of > > protein. One did protein shakes everyday and the other did not. I > am > > not an expert at this but, it is something you

may want to look > into. > > Also I hate to say it but, with all your detoxing are you sure your > > getting enough nutrition? I know your tiny and thin, so my next > > question would be could it be malnutrion? The final thing I can > think > > of is if your eating enough protein and getting enough food then > > maybe it has to do with absorption, maybe your not absorbing the > > nutrients.> > I am not exactly sure how you would find the answer to that or not, > > but maybe or someone else here has some ideas.> > I feel it is probably one of the above things, but just my thoughts > > here, since your looking for ideas.> > hugs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "dimonds68" wrote:> > > Anyone

here have continious/non stop hair loss, even after > > > explant??? I cannot understand, even though I am improved so > much, > > > and alot of my syptoms are gone(I am still not 100% though,I have > > > FMS/CFS), my hair loss has NOT improved at all. Mostly everything > > > has improved, except the hair. I mean the hair does not 'cycle' > > like > > > everything else, it just comes out in clumps. IT has been 4yrs > > after > > > explant. I cannot understand. I am beside myself. I looked over > my > > > previous bloodwork, and it is all negative. Maybe it is just > > > autoimmune. I eat great, have done tons of detoxing. The only med > I > > > take is .5mg of xanax. I just have to post this topic time and > time > > > again in hopes to get some answers. Any feedback? or hope? Thanks >

> > hugs. TERRY> > > > > > > > > >

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: I started losing my hair about 4 month after gastric bypass surgery. That was also the same time I became anemic. I drank protein shakes, as much as I could hold and ate beets and spinach, even went to the juice bar and had fresh veggies jucied daily. Still my hair feel out and iron kept dropping. I ended up taking iron injections daily for two weeks then decreased the amount weekly along with oral iron. Now I take one injection a month and an iron capsule called Nefrex. It is prescribtion only but of course my insurance doesnt cover it. However taking the iron and drinking the protein didnt help my hair loss. I contribute that to flax seed oil and biotin...who knows, maybe it is the combo.....

Vickienaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

has gotten down to her goal weight and her hair is very thin, dry and really ugly looking compared to when she was a heavy girl. She has lost over 100 pounds and looks great cept that hair. She used to have gorgeous thick brown hair that looked so beautiful, but she is still happy to be thin, and she told me she has new growth coming in, I just have yet to notice it. My other friend Wende had the same procedure about 3 months later so she still has another 20 pounds to lose but her hair (always has been thinish) looks the same, never lost any of it, she says it was the protein shakes that she has been drinking the entire time her weight was coming off. They had different Dr's do the procedure as well.it is interesting to see the difference in how well Wende's hair has held up, lots of gastric bypass patients lose

hair.hugsIn , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...> wrote:> :> I agree.> Did ever grow back her hair?> > Dr. Micheal Thorner at Univ. of Virgina(endo) told me that long term dieting can cause permanent hair loss. Hair deprived of oxygen, RBC, nutrients will eventually die. I was told the same thing by an endo at GWU. He also told me some forms of shock cause hair loss that can be permanent.> > Unfortunately, my anemia went undiagnosed until 2001. My poor follicles were starving. > LM > > naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:> Very good point, Detoxing is basically starving your body, and if > your suffereing from hair loss, I guess it really is something to > consider. Is it worth fasting and risking losing your hair? Hair > needs

nutrients and vitamins and protein and those things that you > get from a healthy diet. Fad diets, back and forth starving yourself, > those are chancy with hair loss. You hit the nail on the head with > this one. I would not do any detoxing that involves fasting if I was > losing hair. Just my opinion, and of course no one has to take it, > but I would wait until the hair thing settled down before doing any > prolonged fasting. Again fasting messes with so many things, > electrolytes and the fine balance in your body between protien and > other nutrients and can affect absorption. I feel 100% sure after > watching the girls with the gastric bypass lose all her thick > gorgeous hair that startvation is key to hair loss in allot of > individuals. My good friend told me her hair loss was due to > malnutrition after her gastric bypass surgery. To her it was worth > losing her hair

to lose over 100 pounds, but for those of us that are > thin, I would really really consider skipping the fasting and trying > to eat a regular diet and really consider high amounts of protien and > good carbs a nice balanced diet is always best for skin and hair.> hugs> > > > > > > > > > > In , Jane Doe > wrote:> > , you are right about protein. Women need 60 grams of protein > per day. One piece of chicken does not cut it. Protein should be > consumed in intervals 3 x per day 20 grams each. Breakfast is a > needed time for protein. Milk and eggs are good. For those who have > lactose problems or gas, get lactaid milk. unless you are truly > allergic to milk, you need dairy--low fat or non fat dairy. I don't > care what these stupid fad diets say. I had a MAJOR

effluvium back in > college from a low low fat diet, little protein and dairy.I had > anemia too.> > > > Prolonged detoxing frequently(the same as crash diets) can wreck > havoc on the endocrine system too, thus leaving telogen effluvium in > it's wake. Been there done that.> > > > Hugs,> > LM> > > > naturalbeauty38 wrote:> > I wonder if it could be the xanax? Maybe you react funky to it? > Also > > the second thing I have to ask is do you eat enough protein? I know > > for a fact that protein plays a big time roll in hair loss. Two > girls > > at my work had gastric bypasses and one lost almost half or more of > > her hair and one lost none, the difference seemed to be the intake > of > > protein. One did protein shakes everyday and the other did not. I > am > > not an

expert at this but, it is something you may want to look > into. > > Also I hate to say it but, with all your detoxing are you sure your > > getting enough nutrition? I know your tiny and thin, so my next > > question would be could it be malnutrion? The final thing I can > think > > of is if your eating enough protein and getting enough food then > > maybe it has to do with absorption, maybe your not absorbing the > > nutrients.> > I am not exactly sure how you would find the answer to that or not, > > but maybe or someone else here has some ideas.> > I feel it is probably one of the above things, but just my thoughts > > here, since your looking for ideas.> > hugs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,

"dimonds68" wrote:> > > Anyone here have continious/non stop hair loss, even after > > > explant??? I cannot understand, even though I am improved so > much, > > > and alot of my syptoms are gone(I am still not 100% though,I have > > > FMS/CFS), my hair loss has NOT improved at all. Mostly everything > > > has improved, except the hair. I mean the hair does not 'cycle' > > like > > > everything else, it just comes out in clumps. IT has been 4yrs > > after > > > explant. I cannot understand. I am beside myself. I looked over > my > > > previous bloodwork, and it is all negative. Maybe it is just > > > autoimmune. I eat great, have done tons of detoxing. The only med > I > > > take is .5mg of xanax. I just have to post this topic time and > time > > > again in hopes to get some

answers. Any feedback? or hope? Thanks > > > hugs. TERRY> > > > > > > > > >